QC 3.0 reduced performance - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hey guys,
Has anyone else noticed decreased performance of QC3.0?
I was sitting at home today and noticed the phone estimated 38 mins to get from 46% to full charge which seems a little longer than usual. I swear it used to be much quicker.
Thanks

I don't get your Problem?
Haldi4803 said:
So.... here we go. First full charging Benchmark on my HTC 10 completely logged with an USB Powermeter.
From 1% to 100% takes 95 Minutes.
Statistics from BatteryLog app
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It's always taken me 60 Minutes to go from 45% to 100%

It's slower once you hit ~80%, where it starts charging more around 5v 2A. Perhaps your cable is damaged? Otherwise the phone definitely slows down when it heats up, if you've been gaming on the phone prior to charging it will charge much slower.

You should learn how QC3.0 work first.
when the battery is low, the charger will give more input, but if not, will give a 'normal' input. cmiiw.

for me, sometimes my phone "charging" only, I have to re-plug cable to get "charging rapidly", make sure of that, wait for "quick charger connected" while screen on after seconds of connect cable, or make sure "charging rapidly" is showing "not charging only" while screen is locked.

Thanks for the replies guys.
Just to clear up, basically what I have noticed is that over the 4-5 months I have had my HTC 10 I feel there has been a change in the charging behaviour of my phone. It seems that the phone is taking longer and longer to go from 0% to 100% charge. I am aware of how QC works and that generally you get a nice spike up to 80-90% with the last 10% or so coming on much slower, however what I mean is that the actual total time from flat to full is taking longer - or so it appears.
Using all stock cables and adaptors over here - just curious if anyone has noticed the same thing.
Cheers

Install BatteryLog or batterywidget app and take a log to see how long it takes from 1% to 100%

I've had mine since launch day and I haven't really noticed a difference. I'm a heavy user, no gaming but lots of YouTube for podcasts and reading. I have used the same charger that came with it ever since, and I have a cheap QC 2.0 charger for my car, but I use my official cable for that as well.
My cable is starting to go bad, well, kinda. Sometimes it has a hard time initializating quick charge.

Thanks for the replies guys.
Here is a screenshot I have taken to illustrate what I am referring to.
I will install a battery logging app and report back.
Cheers.

Ty19929 said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Here is a screenshot I have taken to illustrate what I am referring to.
I will install a battery logging app and report back.
Cheers.
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Considering that it takes around 1:30h from zero to full, I think that this is normal? Is it not?

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[Q] Is it possible to create a "bump charging" kernel?

http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
First of all, bump charging is not good for your battery, but considering you can buy one from ebay at the same cost as a hamburger combo meal, I think I am willing to skip a lunch to replace my battery every year.
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is “bump charging.” To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
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The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with “fixes” for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a “power user” who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn’t a concern.
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Check out the second post, v8-beta.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
_MetalHead_ said:
Check out the second post, v8-beta.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
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Sweet!!! I will be testing that kernel this weekend! HNY!
Neo3D said:
Sweet!!! I will be testing that kernel this weekend! HNY!
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How has this been working? I was using a V7 Kernel from that site that used TRICKLE charging.. NOW I read about the bad effects of trickle charge and batteries so I decided to try BUMP CHARGE since it doesnt leave voltage on the batery all the time. I jut know know the effects of bump over trickle and if one is better/safer then the other..
any update?

Defy battery temperature

Hey guys!
Today I charged my Defy like every day. I woke up in the morning and it had only 6% of battery left despite it was connected to the charger. I grabbed it to reconnect it to the charger and it was hot like hell and the touchscreen was unresponsible.
After pulling the battery i took a look at the Battery Monitor Widget logfile and it showed some crazy stand by drain of up to 350 mA/h and temperatures of 60°C.
I really don't know if I should charge it again now because i don't want that my phone takes damage due to a broken battery.
Any suggestions? Should i charge it again and check the temp?
Here is a screenshot of the Battery Widget logfile:
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Wonder if this is widespread?... I called t mobile about my phone rebooting itself and dying so quick that they quickly ordered me a battery and said if the new one works I can send the old one back or even keep it... got an extra battery yet to try...
Does get hot... hottest mine registered was about 41c... 60c ish quite hot for a phone... even battery? lol...
Edit: sorry sloppy grammar, yet I edit saying so lol.
were you using the official charger? might be unrelated but I used to keep a cheap charger at work for my phone, worked well for all my old phones but with this one the screen becomes unresponsive when its plugged in. Ive tried two cheap ones now and they are both the same but with the official one or my old HTC one its fine
stencalldervin said:
Hey guys!
Today I charged my Defy like every day. I woke up in the morning and it had only 6% of battery left despite it was connected to the charger. I grabbed it to reconnect it to the charger and it was hot like hell and the touchscreen was unresponsible.
After pulling the battery i took a look at the Battery Monitor Widget logfile and it showed some crazy stand by drain of up to 350 mA/h and temperatures of 60°C.
I really don't know if I should charge it again now because i don't want that my phone takes damage due to a broken battery.
Any suggestions? Should i charge it again and check the temp?
Here is a screenshot of the Battery Widget logfile:
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Hi! I have the same problem with you with high temperatures and sudden drain.. But this happens not all the time. So sometimes my phone will stay awake for 3-4 days without charging, or have a problem like yours and 3-4-5 hours after charging it's battery it's almost empty....
If you have found a solution and/or you can just tell me if it is hardware issue or software, I would be gratefull to you!
Thanks!
What Android-Version are u guys using? Any special ROM?
BR,
hartmuna
hartmuna said:
What Android-Version are u guys using? Any special ROM?
BR,
hartmuna
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mine is 3.4.2-155 but I had the same problem with 2-3 older versions.. So I think its not about firmware...

Slow charging with OEM charger

Just got my Nexus 5X today. I realize that Quick Charge 2.0 chargers won't work properly with the device but I'm seeing very slow charging speeds using the charger and cable that came with the device.
From 10%, my phone took 15 minutes to charge another 7% and says it will take almost 2 hours for a full charge. Definitely not what I was expecting.
Anyone else having issues?
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Tried charging it again today from 10%. 10 minutes later, I had 15%, and 30 minutes later, 30%. Certainly doesn't seem to be charging at the correct rate to me.
URPREY said:
Tried charging it again today from 10%. 10 minutes later, I had 15%, and 30 minutes later, 30%. Certainly doesn't seem to be charging at the correct rate to me.
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It's it possible there's an option for fast charging that you unchecked? I know there's such an option on the Note 4 for example.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
EeZeEpEe said:
It's it possible there's an option for fast charging that you unchecked? I know there's such an option on the Note 4 for example.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
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No such option that I know of. It indicates that it is charging rapidly but doesn't actually do that
I'm having the same issue with the included charger/cable. I've yet to see "Charging rapidly" like this picture below...
Make sure you are plugging the cable in all the way, there is an audible click and if it isn't a bit of a struggle to unplug it then it isn't in all the way.
Rider797 said:
Make sure you are plugging the cable in all the way, there is an audible click and if it isn't a bit of a struggle to unplug it then it isn't in all the way.
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It won't charge at all if the cable isn't snapped all the way in. I just checked it again. Mine is definitely not charging correctly. Google support told me to hard reset the phone. I think I'm just going to hold off until I get my 6P and return this one
What is exactly do they mean re: "hard reset". I'm half tempted to make them send me a new unit given how damn long it took me to get everything setup. Purely out of spite, screw resetting the current phone. That's like when you call the cable company and they tell you to unplug your box and plug it back in. Christ, that pisses me off.
ellesshoo said:
What is exactly do they mean re: "hard reset".
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A hard reset=full wipe
Mine charged from 10% to full in about 1 hour 20 mins

Phone just stopped fast charging?

3-4 days ago, it just happened out of the blue. Charging from 70% to 100% took 1.5 hours. I rebooted. Didn't do anything unusual in that time but updated Play Store apps. Just tested it right now - 22% in 43 minutes.
Any ideas on how to fix?
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So, what exactly is the problem?
amirage said:
So, what exactly is the problem?
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The charging appears to be much slower than it used to be.
I just checked at 45% battery. It says "Charging rapidly," but it is charging at a speed significantly lower than 1% per minute, more like 0.8% per minute. It completely stops "charging rapidly" at higher % of battery. In my estimation, this will charge the phone, 0-100, in about 2h35m. It used to be 1h40m.
I think that either the latest update introduced a bug or my charger/cable/phone usb socket broke.
Usually rapid charging occurs at a lower % and then goes away as the phone reaches a certain threshold. I think if you charge the device at 75% battery level, rapid charging may not happen...I could be wrong though...If this is a bug, then it would be all over Reddit which it's not...so it's very likely that your charger is kaput!
I've had the same issue, although not really looked into why yet.
I was using a charger I had with my 6P because it had a longer cable(official, bought from Google when I had the 6p).
I changed the cable to the plug that came with my XL, and it started fast charging, in fact faster than I have had in months it feels like.
I think they changed something in the latest May security/bug release, i'll be investigating more on my day off from work.
amirage said:
Usually rapid charging occurs at a lower % and then goes away as the phone reaches a certain threshold. I think if you charge the device at 75% battery level, rapid charging may not happen...I could be wrong though...If this is a bug, then it would be all over Reddit which it's not...so it's very likely that your charger is kaput!
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It should be all over Reddit, except I don't use Reddit, therefore it is not
Anyway, the Charging Rapidly does stop after 70%, however, Google algorithm still predicts 1% per minute charging rate. For example, it may say "Charging" (not Charging Rapidly) at 75% and then say in parenthesis - time to full charge 26 minutes (literally happened to me.) It still took well over 45 minutes to charge from that state.
I think there are bugs and issues with the new OS updates with regard to charging.

[FP4][LOS20] Absolutely atrocious battery life. Phone dies every night it's not plugged in

Hi guys
I moved to LOS in the hopes of improving battery life but it's been pretty bad. I'm at my whits end. I tried using PhoneProfilesPlus to turn off all sensors and radios overnight but it didn't help. My phone literally burns through battery after every even small charging cycle. I used GSam Battery Monitor but couldn't identify any specific app to be the culprit either.
Last night I even used "Battery Tool" to stop most all apps as well as "SaverTuner" to change the Doze mode settings but even still I get the following usage curve:
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Btw the times seem to be completely off too. The last charging spike was around midnight.
I also noticed that Wifi won't show as "off" in the stats unless I reboot my device. But doing that didn't change anything either. As you can see, after I rebooted in the evening, the curve was practically flat. After charging a bit and unplugging before sleep though the phone immediately started draining again.
Any help is very appreciated. It seems I can't go back to stock bc of the A13 bootloader but battery life wasn't much better on stock either.
You also have other helpful charts in Gsam.
What do you mean by "unplugging before sleep"?
Turn off your phone completely overnight and compare the charge before and after.
I meant that I don't leave the phone plugged in overnight. Sadly I can't really gleam anything helpful from the statistics. I'm going to try and charge it to full before this night and set a custom reference point
Looking at that graph, do you have your screen always on? The 2-3 hours around midnight show screen on, but no battery drop. I assume you had it on charge at that point?
What charger are you using? I use an Anker 5 port Quickcharge 4 charger with a USB-C cable that has an LED display to show the charging wattage. I usually get 18W (9V*2A) which pushes charge in quite quickly.
I can't speak for LOS20 as I'm on stock A12, but the battery does seem to discharge faster than you expect.
I use AccuBattery to monitor the power usage and charge/discharge history. Put it this way, I find I do a number of smaller charges through the day. Driving along, I'll have the phone hooked up to the Android Auto slow charging it while I'm using it. I get home and I'll stick it on charge for 45 minutes to boost it up from 20% to 80%.
The rated capacity of the battery is 3905mAh, and AccuBattery is estimating my current battry capacity at 3443mAh, a reduction of 12% in 9 months. That's with only charging between 15% and 80% most of the time. I'll give it a 100% once a month or so.
Thanks for your replies!
I'm thinking something is really wrong with deep doze in my case. I charged my phone fully and got to 50% in a day's use. I made a point of not plugging it in at all because normally you'd expect it to survive on half a battery but no dice. it just starts burning through battery suddenly.
I'm honestly unsure about this graph too. I certainly didn't use the phone and the screen until 2am. I might need to look at other apps too but that doesn't change that my pone went from 55% to 0 in about 6h.
NiPfi said:
(...) I certainly didn't use the phone and the screen until 2am. (...)
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You didn't have to use. Apps and services do it for you.

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