What's your opinion?
Pixel for sure. AI and VR are about to hit big time and that's a big part of what the Pixel is all about.
V20? Are you serious?
Ok it will have better audio-capabilities, but apart from that, it's crap compared to Pixels.
Starting with the awful LG interface.
Tough decision. Quad DAC, removable battery, IR blaster on the V20 versus a better smaller screen on the Pixel (in my opinion) and frankly an old school 2014 design but with pure Android. I am actually conflicted on which way to go since I have the Note 7. Its a valid question that many are trying to figure out (which is why Im here). The screen on the V20 will be the deciding factor for me and I will need to see it in person.. I like things about both phones. I wish there was a device that offered the best of both but not this year.
I preordered the Pixel XL but when reviews are out for one of both and one gets better reviews I stick with that one. V20 might have a better camera but could have short battery life and I don't care about changeable batteries. The Pixel has stock Android which is pretty dull after a while. Don't care about VR or personal assistant. That won't be big until I get my next phone anyway.
The Pixel SUCKS!!!! :laugh:
Kidding... I don't know for sure, I'm just chiming in.
I'd personally choose the LG V20. I don't care about VR.
I just read what was captured from a Reddit post and the images from the Pixel look great along with the video/stabilization. The guy has cleaned all video and posts, seems like he got in trouble. He claimed he had 4 hours SOT with 53% battery left. I will need to see more reports but seems promising even with the bezels. lol, maybe you guys have already seen all that.
I watched a lot of V20 pre-release reviews on Youtube and got some hands-on time at an ATT store today. It seems like a very nice phone. For $830 (at ATT), I would rather pay the extra $39 and get a 128GB Pixel XL (I have one pre-ordered). I wouldn't take advantage of the fancy DAC on the V20. Removable battery is nice, but I never used that on my older Samsung phones even though I had an extra battery. I use to be a big removable storage fan, but with 128GB of fast memory in the pixel, removable storage seems minor. Updates will likely be much better on Pixel. Both phones appear to have a really good camera. I think the V20 would have to be about $650 or less to get me to seriously consider it.
Coming from the V10, I swapped batteries like they were going out of style, SOT wasn't great. I had never owned a non removable battery device until the Note 7 and made it work so,..There are so many "compromises" on all phones this year except the Note 7. Sad situation. I had the V10 so I am reluctant to go back to an IPS panel (personal preference) The Pixel is growing on me the more I see, not sure where I will end up at this point but know I have to take back my Note 7 so I need to figure it out.
I've had the G3, G4, V10 and my wife has the G5. Needless to say, huge LG fan. But, I have to root, go through all the trouble to ultimately make the phone more of a pure Google experience. Do not having to root to get a great UI, plus for pixel.
Next, I had the bootloop of death on my V10 two weeks ago so I got a Nexus 6p to try out while I waited for my replacement V10. That was it for me. I sat and watched all the security updates flow onto the phone! Wow, how impressive! Then got to use nougat pure and loved it. I didn't want to go back to nth V10. That's a tough thing for me to say as a huge fan of LG.
So at the end of the day, I'm going pixel. Here's my reasons.
1. Constant updates including security updates.
2. Purity. Maybe I finally won't have to root as phone!
3. Camera! Quality yes... But speed to take a picture! If it's anything at all like the nexus, I'm sold
4. I could care less about DAC. I haven't used wired phones in years.
5. 128gig, more than enough to not miss removable storage and let's face it, Google has been making consistently more annoying to even have a phone with it.
6. 2nd screen is cool but not particularly useful.
You are all right. But the nexus 6p had such a choppy expiriance.
The v20 is cheaper, same quality camera (more or less) and the IPS panel is great and close enough to amoled .
The issue is that we don't really know what to expect from the pixel.
Its a under clocked CPU with pure android and good camera. And there is a strong chance that most of us will will root it.
The v20 is cheaper with better sound qualities and also gonna be rooted to give us a pure expiriance.
Its a 5.7 screen and has an always on display.
Does the pixel really trump the v20?
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I preordered the Pixel XL but when reviews are out for one of both and one gets better reviews I stick with that one. V20 might have a better camera but could have short battery life and I don't care about changeable batteries. The Pixel has stock Android which is pretty dull after a while. Don't care about VR or personal assistant. That won't be big until I get my next phone anyway.
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I see your are from Germany, where did you pre-order Pixel? Thanks
I asked the same question. Don't let fanboys sway your decision. They both have pros and cons. I have had very bad issues wirh LG as far as text lag, screen throttle, scrolling lag, etc. At the same time, the pixel offers nothing new, no wow factor.
I chose the pixel simply becwuse I'm pressed to give up this note 7 and the pixel is available to order while LG, once again shows why they're not a serious player. They failed to take advantage of this Samsung screw up in the US where we still, a month or so later, have no release date.
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I see your are from Germany, where did you pre-order Pixel? Thanks
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I am from Germany but live in the US. Can't answer your question regarding Europe. Gruss aus San Diego
Rippley05 said:
I asked the same question. Don't let fanboys sway your decision. They both have pros and cons. I have had very bad issues wirh LG as far as text lag, screen throttle, scrolling lag, etc. At the same time, the pixel offers nothing new, no wow factor.
I chose the pixel simply becwuse I'm pressed to give up this note 7 and the pixel is available to order while LG, once again shows why they're not a serious player. They failed to take advantage of this Samsung screw up in the US where we still, a month or so later, have no release date.
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Right, I am with you. Just returned the note 7 and I am looking for a replacement.
My wife has the LG G4 and she loves it and a good friend of mine has the V10 and he loves it.
I don't see a lag in any of them and when I compared the phones to my note 7 I was really jealous since the note has horrible lags.
You can buy the v20 unlocked at B&H and get a tablet with it for 870$, which is already almost 100 less from what I paid for the pixel. Plus you get a bigger screen with the V20, better audio, SD card slot, Dual camera (which will be pretty good and close to the pixel) and Nuget.
So at this point I am really baffled as to what I want to get.
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Right, I am with you. Just returned the note 7 and I am looking for a replacement.
My wife has the LG G4 and she loves it and a good friend of mine has the V10 and he loves it.
I don't see a lag in any of them and when I compared the phones to my note 7 I was really jealous since the note has horrible lags.
You can buy the v20 unlocked at B&H and get a tablet with it for 870$, which is already almost 100 less from what I paid for the pixel. Plus you get a bigger screen with the V20, better audio, SD card slot, Dual camera (which will be pretty good and close to the pixel) and Nuget.
So at this point I am really baffled as to what I want to get.
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Just canceled my order of the Pixel XL. T-Mobile had a great offer for the V20. 200 bucks trade-in for my old phone, free B&O headphones and a free tablet (which I don't need but will give to my nephew). The phone altogether costs me slightly above 550 bucks. In comparison to the almost 1,000.00 for the Pixel XL that seems like a steal even if I have to compromise with certain things. The Pixel has no wow effect other than some software gimmicks. I will get a Pixel 2nd gen next year. Hopefully then with some fantastic hardware.
I played with the V20 the other day in the AT&T store, it was just "okay" in my opinion. I am much more excited to play with the Pixel XL.
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I played with the V20 the other day in the AT&T store, it was just "okay" in my opinion. I am much more excited to play with the Pixel XL.
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I played with the v20 and it was more than alright, its an amazing phone. I'm torn between the pixel and the v20 so I ordered both and will return the one that I don't want. The pixel will have my development by far!!!
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I played with the v20 and it was more than alright, its an amazing phone. I'm torn between the pixel and the v20 so I ordered both and will return the one that I don't want. The pixel will have my development by far!!!
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To each his own, if you were digging it great, just didn't wow me. Now I am still mourning the loss of my Note7 so you know nothing is really exciting me now
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To each his own, if you were digging it great, just didn't wow me. Now I am still mourning the loss of my Note7 so you know nothing is really exciting me now
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I'm with you bro, hands down the note 7 is king. Remember that stupid saying " it's better to love and lost, rather than never finding love at all"... That's some untrue bs
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I’m in a bit of a conundrum I’m split 60-40 pixel in favor over the V30 but there are some cool features on the V30 and the now availability that’s tempting. What are you guys thinking ?
Well I just got off the phone with Verizon and they're going to be shipping the phone soon is what I'm being told my order shipment should be here by the 19th of October. My original date was the 25th of October.
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Ahh well that changes things! I hope the google pre orders are like that as well !
I will say the V30 is still tempting I mean I guess I will see how I feel about the Pixel within the 15 days
LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo
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LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo
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Speed tests mean jack as they don’t translate to real world feel.
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LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo
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yeah how often are you going to sit and load 20 apps for 2 seconds and then come back to them after you cycled through. Samsung always does and will have their lag after 2 months.
No
Decided PIxel2XL it is. Many more advantages inmo and the updates Trump not having them
Same question but looking at the two I'm 70 v30 and 30 pixel. I really want the pixel but cannot get past how ugly it is. And it not really the ugliness of the phone per se but the screen and bezels. Went to Verizon today check compare back to back really love pure Google but bit is the LG more pleasant to look at.
i considered many phones this year
but the only device i ordered as soon as it announced is the pixel
why ?
simply updates
other devices are great but i know for a fact that most of them will not get updated
and even the one that does will take a very long time
Totally hung up on this one.
- I love the LG V30's design, feature set and size. The UI does not look so bad either.
- I also love pure Android and the fresh software updates that come from Google has always been my path since Samsung Nexus.
The $400 P-XL buy-back that Google offers is tempting and it puts the P2-XL in the same price range as the LG V30.
My current Pixel XL is 2 months old. It was a extended warranty replacement from my dying N6P.
Hmm...
Could I get $350-400 on Swappa for my P-XL then buy the LG V30? That would be awesome....
Or, don't do Swappa and buy P2-XL with the $400 buy-back?
Khan!!!!!!!
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Totally hung up on this one.
- I love the LG V30's design, feature set and size. The UI does not look so bad either.
- I also love pure Android and the fresh software updates that come from Google has always been my path since Samsung Nexus.
The $400 P-XL buy-back that Google offers is tempting and it puts the P2-XL in the same price range as the LG V30.
My current Pixel XL is 2 months old. It was a extended warranty replacement from my dying N6P.
Hmm...
Could I get $350-400 on Swappa for my P-XL then buy the LG V30? That would be awesome....
Or, don't do Swappa and buy P2-XL with the $400 buy-back?
Khan!!!!!!!
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Honestly after seeing the phone this afternoon I don’t see what the people are complaining about with the bezels. Is it as small as the V30 not exactly is it big and ugly like some say not even close. I think I’m keeping my preorder of the Pixel2XL and rocking it for a few weeks but I’m probably going to end up keeping it
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Same question but looking at the two I'm 70 v30 and 30 pixel. I really want the pixel but cannot get past how ugly it is. And it not really the ugliness of the phone per se but the screen and bezels. Went to Verizon today check compare back to back really love pure Google but bit is the LG more pleasant to look at.
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I saw the exact opposite. I saw it today at Verizon and it put me at ease the bezels are fine. Are they as small as the V30 no but I rather have the speakers and software updates and better camera so pixel wins
I agree updates are a big plus but ever since 6.0 I feel like I can be content with one os. Will wait another month see if op 5t comes out or lg30 goes on sale since it's not selling.
Well that’s cool. You have the time to wait. I ordered my phone and it’s coming next week so I’m gonna ride it for a while. I’m sure I will like it. If not love it. At least till next year
Yeah i think once the "newness" of the v30 wears off you're gonna wish you had the Pixel. Sure the V30 looks good but you know the pixel is gonna be a beast 6 months to a year from now. I've never had an LG phone so dunno if they slow down like the Samsungs do
Imagine if PureNexus drops for the 2 XL.
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Imagine if PureNexus drops for the 2 XL.
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If?
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If?
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True lol
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I'm with a huge doubt, which one to buy? an OP5T or a GP 2 XL, what I most want is to have a good battery life. But I've been thinking and looking for forums for 3 days but I do not decide. I would be very grateful for your answers and recommendations.
The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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Well, maybe the best phone out for *you*. Everyone has specifics they're looking for. LG V30 is a great phone, and so is OP5T, and my preferences for me, I need a solid development community.:silly:
I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
I need a development support phone. That means bootloader unlocking to not break safetynet and run custom ROMs/Kernels, not just rooting and breaking stuff like Samsung. V30 LG isn't worth the $800, and V30+ certainly not worth the $900+ IMHO.
For the money, I would expect more from them all. My only gripe with Samsung, no Bootloader unlocking for US phones...so, it checks all the boxes I have and need.
Otherwise, 5T is a really great phone for the money....only complaint is lack of SDCard, but can run USB-OTG and get around that, wireless charging would be nice. Otherwise, bang for the buck, dev support, can't be beat the 5T.
After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Here in Canada, after tax, the Pixel 2XL is roughly $1275 (as of this posting). The total I paid for the OnePlus 5T was $730 after the student discount and tax. That's still about a $500+ jump in price, still not worth it for me at least.
I really don't have a lot of options. Coming from a bootlooped 5X (reason why I will never a LG phone) and really wanted that stock feel with lots of custom development. Only choice for me was 5T and Pixel 2, and sadly Pixel 2 doesn't sell where I am.
And I really don't care that much about wireless charging, camera or the 1080P display. Quite an easy choice for me.
I really think it's worth it.
the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
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So brother, in a few words you recommend me for pixel 2 xl? If this the possibility of saving money I do it (and I go for the 5t) but if I really have such a bad experience with the camera OF 5T. Well, I think I would go by PIXEL XL2 . (I come from the s7 and I guess the 5t will have a very bad camera)
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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The camera isn't necessarily bad, but isn't good either. It's just an average camera in my opinion. If you're not super picky on getting super clean shots then I think you'd be more than okay with it
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After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
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the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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So the 5t camera is very very bad. I got used to the camera of my s7, but I thought that the 5t could be on par.
Is it really bad camera?
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
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The camera isn't bad, it's just not super great. Other cameras are better for sure, but that's what you get for more money.
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The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
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With what camera could you compare brother? maybe with my s7? best? worst? at par?
I hope my perspective helps your decision. I'm smartphone power user. I don't play games but I am multitasking a lot. Whatever I can do on the move using the phone, without turning my PC or laptop, I'll do it. E.g. 3 browsers installed with around 10+ pages on each, diverse google drive docs running scripts, 350 apps, you name it, it's on my phone. So long I can remember, I was looking for the best phone with the best community (phone customization and fixes), and therefore switching between Google Nexus/OnePlus phones. I wanted the best, regardless of price so I was ready to go with Pixel XL2. Until I saw the screen issue. If you are looking at XL2 from an angle, any angle, like have it on your desk, table, sofa, screen will turn bluish. That alone was enough for me to look for better phone. Another thing to keep in mind is that Pixel XL2 has only 4 GB of ram and that would not be enough for me. I went with OnePlus 5T and I don't regret it a bit. Yes, camera is not as good, no OiS, no optical zoom either, and I'll do with Gmod camera or open camera. Can't have everything, I guess.
I am looking at selling or trading in my Samsung S7 Edge in order to get something with a larger screen. I have had the Samsung almost 2 years now, no problems with it, I just prefer something larger and more sturdy feeling (previously had a Note 3). I have been looking at moving to Project Fi and therefore getting a Pixel 2XL, however the number of issues the phones have is pretty concerning.
Both the S7 Edge and Note 3 gave me no problems at all, so seeing a list of a dozen different problems that can affect the 2XL is concerning. If you were to be buying another phone tomorrow, would you get a 2XL again? or knowing how unreliable they can be get something else? I realize not every phone is going to be affected, but it seems like a lot of issues.
I also came from an S7 Edge, which is a great phone. The Pixel 2 XL is just better. If you can afford it, get it. It is just a joy to play with. I personally have no problems with the display. There is a hint of blue when looking at the screen from an angle, but that is just no reason to not buy this phone imho. I find the display to be great. Love it. Stability and responsiveness are top notch. You don't have to worry about tripping knox when unlocking and flashing, and the stereo front speakers are just amazing. Wireless charging would have been nice though.
Yes I would, just because I love stock Android and I haven't experienced any issues with my device. Even if you do have issues, I think Google extended the standard one year warranty to two years so you should be safe in that regard.
Most definitely! Unless there was a reincarnation of the Nexus!!
Without a doubt. I bought the 2XL and returned it a couple days later only to buy it again.
I was coming from the s8+ which is a great phone but side by side to a pixel 2 xl, its laggy and the interface is rough.
Pixel 2 XL is smooth... very smooth.
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I am looking at selling or trading in my Samsung S7 Edge in order to get something with a larger screen. I have had the Samsung almost 2 years now, no problems with it, I just prefer something larger and more sturdy feeling (previously had a Note 3). I have been looking at moving to Project Fi and therefore getting a Pixel 2XL, however the number of issues the phones have is pretty concerning.
Both the S7 Edge and Note 3 gave me no problems at all, so seeing a list of a dozen different problems that can affect the 2XL is concerning. If you were to be buying another phone tomorrow, would you get a 2XL again? or knowing how unreliable they can be get something else? I realize not every phone is going to be affected, but it seems like a lot of issues.
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Yes. Battery life and updates much better than mate 9. Love the screen ratio. Wasn't sure I would.
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I love this phone but my wife is not any more impressed with it than her S8+. She upgraded from her S7 edge about the same time I went from a nexus 6P to the 2xl. She can't really see anything this has that she doesn't have on hers. The battery lasts all day for either of us and the SOC is actually pretty much neck and neck every day we compare. To be honest, it's really about whether you dig stock Android and the ability to root and modify stuff. Myself, I left Samsung after the S5 as that was the last one to be really be in the game. I'll never go back. Went to a N6 then 6p and now this. I could not be happier with the phone and am happy to see the scene heating up!
Had Samsung for years prior to the Pixel 2 XL. Can never go back now. Stock android is a joy to use, and this camera is phenomenal. Plus ability to root and customize, it's a no brainer
I've owned every single Samsung phone since the Galaxy Vibrant. I would have considered myself to be a Fanboy. I have my S8+ still. Have not touched it since I have gotten this device. This is my first stock Android device, and I have to say it's pretty damn amazing out of the box. I caught myself just scrolling through the menus to watch the smooth transitions, the lack of lag and stutter is really surprising. I can totally tell what people are talking about when they talk about TouchWiz or the Samsung experience. The screen. I ordered this phone and cancelled my preorder at least 5 times. I hadb the device in hand and was watching all the horror stories everybody is talking about. I found myself looking for every single flaw everybody was experiencing instead of enjoying this device. I ended up returning it with buyers remorse. I had the 64gb version and I forgot the protection package. I kept up on the stories but I found myself really regretting returning it. I bought my black 128gb model and told myself to stay away from the forums and just use the device and see how I feel about it without all the negative buzz. Just using it in daily driver tasks. I not only going myself to really enjoying the display. It's not as Vibrant or over saturated. But I've actually found myself keeping it on the stock settings. Iv also can't believe I forgot up mention battery life... This thing goes on forever. The battery life is so much better than my S8+. I can't imagine how much better that it would be to your S7 Edge. The way I look at it. Samsung is like a Ferrari of cell phones with a bad tune. Amazing car looks great, feels great, but if can't go a whole day without refilling the tank then what's the deal? The 2XL may not look like a cutting edge device, but the tune and the milage sure take it places. I not only would buy this phone again for myself. But I'm looking into getting one for my girlfriend as well. She is hating her S8+. Hopefully this gives you some perspective. I say go for it. You got nothing to lose except a super Vibrant over saturated display.
I will tell you I am on my 6th or 7th pixel for various issues I have lost count and I still want it! Battery is great, camera is unreal, software is fine everything is fine but little blue tint to screen that you wont notice after a few days/week. I just had to get my last replacement XL in and I get bored with the note 8 the pixel is just special and I havent rooted one yet
Yes
Absolutely! Best out there. Is it perfect? No but it comes close. Excellent battery life, camera, quick and smooth. I got the 128gb and for the 1st time I don't miss the lack of sdcard slot.
Would prefer headphone jack, louder ring and notification volume but as I said, I will settle for not quite perfect.
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In all honesty the phone does have its issues that are on on the hardware end. More so the screen having blue tint. If this doesn't bother you then this device would be amazing for you. If you want the fastest updates you don't have much of a choice but to go with google. However new phones will be out in a months time so you might be better off waiting
I came from S8+ which I considered a great device. But I have to quote someone before me: "Samsung is Ferrari among phones, but with a very bad tune."
Can't agree more! So I ditched S8+ with zero regret.
Absolutely! :victory:
Coming from the 6p, the P2XL was a logical upgrade for me, especially since I enjoy rooting and modding my device. My wife has an S8+ While I will agree it has a beautiful screen and superb build quality, I absolutely can't stand TW and some of the lag I've seen on it. It's great for my Mrs, but not my cup of tea. I have zero regrets about the P2XL. It's fast, fluid, easy to theme with root and substratum, and a piece of cake to upgrade when the monthly updates come out. So yes, I'd definitely purchase it again ??
Came from a 6p and multiple nexus's before that, really like the Pixel 2 XL (my second one at least, the first one was horrible blue shift). Biggest disappointment so far is lack of developer/rom support, its kinda shockingly minimal after being used to the Nexus dev community. (also i still think it was priced too high)
Not the best time to buy. Just wait a month as new devices are being released
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Not the best time to buy. Just wait a month as new devices are being released
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Yeah If your interested in the S9 G7 or the like. I doubt thats what the OP is interested in. I'm not anyways. No Pixel or OnePlus type developer phones for another 9 months or so....
Sure I would. I love it, and- despite rumours- it works great.
Was considering the leap. I had the Moto X Pure prior to the S8+ and I miss the front facing speakers....not sure if it's worth the trouble though....
Any thoughts?
I've been able to play with the S8+ a lot, my ex-had it. In my personal opinion, I'd take the Pixel 2 XL over that phone any day. It's just my two cents.
Been there, done that! The Pixel XL 2 is the best device I've had going into 2018!
i couple of people at work work have the s8+ - and let's just say I'm glad I have my penguin
I miss flashing too. I had a ton of freedom on the Moto X Pure. Moving to the S8+ and all of it's restrictions has been tough. I think the S8+ is a beautiful phone but too locked down for this flashaholic. I'm assuming the whole "screen" issue with the Pixel 2 is negligible?
I had the S8+ before. The quality of the device was more premium but the software on the S8+ sucked. I just hated Bixby, the half baked iris scanner and the bloated software in general. I never used any of the Samsung-specific apps like calendar, health, music...For me they are just redundant apps. Glad to have a pure Android again.
While it's not the S8+, prior to owning my 2XL I had an S8 for about 4 months.
- The S8 (and S8+) screen is considerably more crisp, with better clarity and better colors.
- Wireless charging with the S8 is something I miss every single day.
- Touchwiz has become surprisingly great. Over my 4 months of usage, the phone never lagged/stuttered once.
But...
- The front facing speakers on the 2XL are fantastic.
- The fingerprint reader on the 2XL is placed in a MUCH better spot.
- The 2XL camera is notably better in every day usage.
While I do miss some things from the S8, I have no regrets about switching to the 2XL. Especially because even though Touchwiz is perfectly snappy these days, you still can't beat the smoothness and overall feel of pure Android on the 2XL.
Man, I REALLY appreciate the feedback so far. This is def making my decision easier. My S8+ is Mint condition so it shouldn't be much of an investment switching. I'm a HUGE fan of Swappa. It's been years since I've bought a "brand new" phone. I was originally leaning towards the V30 but that idea totally faded. Rumors are around that the S9 will have dual speakers, BUT...... obviously still too locked down.
My S8+ just got shipped out today to it's new owner. I couldn't be happier. I wouldn't say the Samsung has "better" colors. It's just more saturated and I'm sure we all appreciate that in Samsung devices. But this phone amazing. I said it in another thread. My S8+ was like a Ferrari with a bad tune. Make it look pretty and go fast, and put all these Bells and whistles on it. But the tune is bad your milage is going to tank and it leads to lag. This phone may not be the most aesthetically pleasing. But its got the same internals. I never used to understand why people complained about lag in Samsung phones until I tried my pixel. I'm not sure if I'll go back lol.
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My S8+ just got shipped out today to it's new owner. I couldn't be happier. I wouldn't say the Samsung has "better" colors. It's just more saturated and I'm sure we all appreciate that in Samsung devices. But this phone amazing. I said it in another thread. My S8+ was like a Ferrari with a bad tune. Make it look pretty and go fast, and put all these Bells and whistles on it. But the tune is bad your milage is going to tank and it leads to lag. This phone may not be the most aesthetically pleasing. But its got the same internals. I never used to understand why people complained about lag in Samsung phones until I tried my pixel. I'm not sure if I'll go back lol.
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Welcome to the Dark Side young Obiwan!??
Yeah hands down this is the best phone i've owned. The "problems" everyone is talking about I would guess 75% of the people who talk about them would have never noticed them or made a big deal if they didnt read reviews on it
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I was originally leaning towards the V30 but that idea totally faded. Rumors are around that the S9 will have dual speakers, BUT...... obviously still too locked down.
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I had a V30 for 3 weeks when it was first released on T-Mobile. Sadly, thanks to LGs meddling in Android's smooth and simple user experience, the phone is garbage.
The hardware is great, it has wireless charging, and the phone has excellent 'in hand' feel. But the UI ruins the whole experience. No matter how much myself, and many others in the V30 sub forum, tried to de-bloat the phone, it still lagged and stuttered constantly in normal usage.
The amount of unnecessary, redundant background services that LG added into the OS on the V30 is mind boggling. Also, the camera is just "OK" compared to my S8 and 2 XL. And there is no unlocking/rooting the carrier locked versions of the V30. So custom AOSP ROMs are out of the question for that phone.
It's such a shame because the phone had such great potential and I'd even argue that if that V30 just had simple, untouched, pure Android it would be just as good as the 2XL, substituting wireless charging for the best in class camera and dual front facing speakers for better in hand feel.
That is sad to hear about the V30. I was super pumped reading about it prior to its release. Thanks for the info @sn0warmy. I make a habit of checking past and possibly future phones and their dedicated threads here on XDA. It is fun to see where all the action is. There are most def some dedicated people working on the Snapdragon S8+/S8 forums but you can sense some frustration when it comes to the limitations being imposed by the carriers. What REALLY sucks is you are intertwined with the international version folks whom have the ability to unlock and use custom recovery. Of course, that's the case with many of the phones nowadays. Anyhew, I am def excited to be jumping ship here and switching units. You guys have def help increased my excitement level.
I have the note 8 & pixel 2 XL. Both have pros & cons.
Pixel camera is better
Pixel Battery is better
Pixel speakers are better
Note has wireless charging
Note has spen
Note screen is better
They are close I feel but pixel is my daily driver for the time being
This threads Pixel XL 2 pro's are music to my ears!
While the S8+ was an absolute fantastic phone, I gave it to my fiancee and bought the Pixel 2XL and haven't looked back. Either phone is fantastic tho. Happier with my P2XL.
Pulled the trigger today and ordered one. Thanks again for the feedback. It made my decision to switch quite simple.
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Pulled the trigger today and ordered one. Thanks again for the feedback. It made my decision to switch quite simple.
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Awesome! What color did you get?? You'll have to let us know what you think when it comes in!
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Awesome! What color did you get?? You'll have to let us know what you think when it comes in!
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I got black. I had a really hard time trying to explain to my wife why it is I'm switching since we just bought the S8+s...... she's always been a die-hard Sammy fan though. I haven't been dedicated to any brand. I just prefer there to be some freedom when it comes to hackability. So, I'll be around, permanently, next week.
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I got black. I had a really hard time trying to explain to my wife why it is I'm switching since we just bought the S8+s...... she's always been a die-hard Sammy fan though. I haven't been dedicated to any brand. I just prefer there to be some freedom when it comes to hackability. So, I'll be around, permanently, next week.
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yeah Samsung doesn't allow for that anymore! I remember the days of the developer note boy was it amazing!
It's finally upgrade time, coming from a Lumia 930 after my OnePlus 3 have up the ghost after an impact.
Been looking at options and Pixel 2 XL is coming up at £31 a month with no upfront cost (for comparison Pixel 3 XL is around £60 per month)
Am I going to regret getting this or is it still a worthy upgrade today and for the next 2 years?
Are the reported issues actually issues or just people looking for problems?
Thank you for your time
It's still a great device with a few years of updates to come... Price is Right compared to 2018 flagships...
I had a note 8 for almost a year and a xiaomi mi 8. The Samsung was awesome and the s pen was useful but the pixel experience is so much better. Speed differences are not huge, I don't play too many games so it's fast enough for my needs.
The camera is awesome, no contest compared to current phones tbh and with only one lens.
The phone looks great (I have panda white) and I'd rather have this pixel instead of the latest as I'm fed up of all glass phones.
If you like ugly notches and having to pay $80 for a wireless charger to get full speed wireless charging because Google locked down the phone to use only their wireless charger, get the Pixel 3. Otherwise, get the Pixel 2.
UPDATE: Google backpedaled and said it will start certifying 3rd party wireless chargers. Those that are certified will be able to charge the phone at full speed. Still seems kind of stupid to me considering neither Apple nor Samsung have any such requirement for their wireless chargers, but it's not as dumb as locking them all out.
Still an awesome device by today's standards. Still super fast, will be updated for a while by Google, it will officially get most of the new Pixel 3 features, and unofficially the other features (thanks XDA).
Get it!
I just bought it after the pixel3 release. Couldn't be happier
Buy it. There's no way the 3 is worth another thirty quid a month, especially as many of the upgrades will eventually work on the 2XL. Mine's a year old (Panda white) and it's running like a dream. Best phone I've ever had.
I can see it running fine for the next two years. Unless apps really start increasing their demands on RAM and processor by a lot, it'll age fine.
That being said, I still go with getting a phone within 6 months of release to get the most of it in the long run. Only benefit of anything longer is price being lower so if you can get a great deal for a Pixel 2 XL, then sure go for it.
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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.
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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.
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After buying an LG G5, I would recommend LG phones only to my worst enemies. The UI looks fugly and isn't as smooth as Google's, it's full of bloatware, the LG apps are worse then the original GApps they replace, updates don't arrive each month and new Android releases take an eternity. Hell, the G5 got Android 8 only recently! On top the developer support gets worse and worse with each new model (if you can unlock the bootlaoder at all), so you hardly can escape LG's version of software hell on earth.
The OnePlus 6T is most likely miles ahead, but it's made of glass. And you need forked versions of the Google camera to shoot nice pictures.
My Pixel 2 XL has been running smooth over the last year, I haven't regretted that I bought it for one second, despite its steep price.
So if you don't want to spend the money for the new version, get a Pixel 2 XL. Or get a OnePlus 6T if you must have more RAM. But don't buy the LG V40, it may seem fine at first, but you'll regret it later on.
Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).
I just bought a pixel 2xl yesterday and quite frankly I saw no particular reason to go the 3xl route at this point in time. This phone is a beast.
^ yes, it's still a badboy! Welcome aboard
I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.
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I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.
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Just to have something newer, shinier or are there real reasons? I see no point except the slight blue tint of the display to upgrade this fantastic device.
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Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).
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uhm nope https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/14/lg-v40-review-best-lgs-ever-built-still-isnt-quite-enough/
Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?
mb76 said:
Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-first-things
You got a case right? Definitely protect it.
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What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
Rick
C5Longhorn said:
What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
Rick
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Well the OP got it for a monthly $39.76/month with no up front cost. Pricey but it's a lot less than the Pixel 3 XL for $76.96/month. Either way, both are way more than what we pay in the US
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Yep. It's a gooder. I came from a 2016 Moto z griffin with a battery mod and this gets better battery life.
Still at 78% by the time I get home from work.