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Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?
Arrio said:
Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?
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Which part of TOO HOT is so hard to understand? I'm no ARM CPU expert but heat throttling is usually hard-wired into the CPU. For a good reason.
Arrio said:
Often when you over clock, the phone heats up and starts to slow itself down from getting too hot. Is it possible to bypass that?
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put your phone in the microwave on high for 30 seconds. This will disable the temp sensor......................
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If you haven't seen this yet, you should.
It's a video from a brief period when Intel had reliable thermal throttling, but AMD's wasn't reliable yet:
If you wanna avoid throttling, reduce heat. Could consider picking the phone appart to reapply thermal paste, and or put some extra holes in it for cooling.
SO.... you want your phone to overheat and get damaged?
Good call.
Hi. I noticed that the left hand part of the screen of the Note 8 (about a third of the screen on the side where you have the menu button, all the way along the left bezel) gets slightly warm with an hour or so of heavy use. I thought it was just my palm warming that side of the device when I'm holding it, until I realized that the same thing happens even when I'm using it on landscape mode. 2/3 of the screen up to the right bezel stays cool.
Anyone else notice this on his device? Is this normal for the note 8 N5100?
Yes with heavy use
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25jan said:
Yes with heavy use
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Sorry, perhaps I shouldn't have put heavy use there. I'm running stock Android and with just a couple of apps in the background (say 5) the screen starts to get warm already. Is there anything I can do to remedy this?
kawris said:
Hi. I noticed that the left hand part of the screen of the Note 8 (about a third of the screen on the side where you have the menu button, all the way along the left bezel) gets slightly warm with an hour or so of heavy use. I thought it was just my palm warming that side of the device when I'm holding it, until I realized that the same thing happens even when I'm using it on landscape mode. 2/3 of the screen up to the right bezel stays cool.
Anyone else notice this on his device? Is this normal for the note 8 N5100?
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getting warm for all Quad Core device is normal (up to 40-45 on heavy using) But if u see something more than this take it to service
u can find apps that measure temp of device and battery on play.store
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x102x96x said:
getting warm for all Quad Core device is normal (up to 40-45 on heavy using) But if u see something more than this take it to service
u can find apps that measure temp of device and battery on play.store
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I have installed Battery and System Tuner Free. The first one gives me battery temperature readings of anywhere from 31-33 degrees Celsius. System Tuner Free gives me readings of 42-51 degrees Celsius. The range happens when I'm using anywhere from 1 to 9 apps at a time.
All devices that are used heavily will really turn warm, that's normal hehe. So better dont use it that much. Let it rest for some time.
How about when you are playing hd games? In my case, Playing need for speed most wanted makes my note 8 hot too. will this damage my unit?
my note 8 get very hot when i play modern combat 4 the temp about 71 degree (measured by system tuner ) and the battery temperture about 37 or more and the left side of the screen becomes very hot and the battery drain quickly is this will harm my device ??
messi2050 said:
my note 8 get very hot when i play modern combat 4 the temp about 71 degree (measured by system tuner ) and the battery temperture about 37 or more and the left side of the screen becomes very hot and the battery drain quickly is this will harm my device ??
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No. If the temperature is out of spec, the system will shut itself down.
Internal resistance in a computer + voltage = heat. And the heavier the usage, the more the heat. This is normal, folks. It would be very magical if the device did not generate heat.
redpoint73 said:
No. If the temperature is out of spec, the system will shut itself down.
Internal resistance in a computer + voltage = heat. And the heavier the usage, the more the heat. This is normal, folks. It would be very magical if the device did not generate heat.
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ok thanks a lot for your reply
Yeah, I think playing the more graphics-intensive games really pushes my device to the limit. I switched to Android Tuner from System Tuner because it has a much cleaner UI and I *think* I understand more on it I also get readings of 70 degrees and 36 degrees for CPU and battery respectively while playing Iron Man 3 and Quadropus.
No shutdown so far so maybe that means the device can still take the heat. Thanks a lot for your replies!
Leardsdat and
It's totally normal, see both the CPU and the battery (and screen, if it's brightness is high) is warming your device. And in my understanding Android keeps it's applications on background running unless you kill them with an app or from application managing. So this means your device is processing many things at the same time and it will make it warm.
Just wondering if its normal for the temp sensor to read 160c+ in -10c weather.
This happened when i was walking home. Cpu reports extremely high temp and just wondering if this effect any performance.
Bell, htc 10, boot unlocked, S-OFF, 1.90.666.4
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Wondering if it's a false reading. Can you download another app that monitors CPU temps and see if there are any discrepancies between the two apps?
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Wow,that's really interesting. For my information, are you holding the phone in boiling water?
matthewacbroad said:
Just wondering if its normal for the temp sensor to read 160c+ in -10c weather.
This happened when i was walking home. Cpu reports extremely high temp and just wondering if this effect any performance.
Bell, htc 10, boot unlocked, S-OFF, 1.90.666.4
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Probably a false reading. Your battery is too cool for a cpu this hot. Also cpu gets permanently damaged at temperatures this high. Either a sensor is damaged or app giving false reading.
that's because of the minus 10°C outside ^^
This has happened quite a few times for me when i used the phone in the freezer.
the CPU sensor somehow doesn't handle minus temperatures very well. Because the battery is constantly used it heats itself up and does not go into minus temperature.
The SoC itself is often in DeepSleep or almost idle. So it doesn't draw that much power, not enugh to keep the temperature over minus degrees, especially with an aluminum body that sends the complete outside temperature inside, not isolating like glass.
Don't worry about it
If you're curious you can install the app Stability Test https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability
It heats up the CPU pretty fast, then you can find out what's the lowest normal temperature the sensor can recognize ^^
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You probably cannot damage a CPU due to heat. On my old Xperia Z2 i tried to disable ALL Thermal throttling, and run a Stresstest, when the CPU temp reached 91°C the phone simply shut down. Emergency shutdown to prevent overheating damage. Not sure if it's from Android or CPU hardware protection.
Most Intel CPU's do have a hardware protection, wouldn't be surprised if Snapdragons had the same.
Haldi4803 said:
that's because of the minus 10°C outside ^^
This has happened quite a few times for me when i used the phone in the freezer.
the CPU sensor somehow doesn't handle minus temperatures very well. Because the battery is constantly used it heats itself up and does not go into minus temperature.
The SoC itself is often in DeepSleep or almost idle. So it doesn't draw that much power, not enugh to keep the temperature over minus degrees, especially with an aluminum body that sends the complete outside temperature inside, not isolating like glass.
Don't worry about it
If you're curious you can install the app Stability Test https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability
It heats up the CPU pretty fast, then you can find out what's the lowest normal temperature the sensor can recognize ^^
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You probably cannot damage a CPU due to heat. On my old Xperia Z2 i tried to disable ALL Thermal throttling, and run a Stresstest, when the CPU temp reached 91°C the phone simply shut down. Emergency shutdown to prevent overheating damage. Not sure if it's from Android or CPU hardware protection.
Most Intel CPU's do have a hardware protection, wouldn't be surprised if Snapdragons had the same.
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with no OC (AKA 2GHZ + 1.5GHZ) I got 81c, with 2.2Ghz + 1.7Ghz I hit 92c but it kept going with no throttling
95c, i made a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwjn8h1Raw
If you do that next time can you do me a favour and get the dmesg?
If you want to you can "dmesg | grep [THERMAL]" to make it smaller.
Heating issue with my beast...i play moderate games like coc,cr,mc5, some social stuff like instagram,fb ..but device temperature is getting to high ..can anyone know solution of this.... Sorry for my horrible English...
soham_mehta said:
Heating issue with my beast...i play moderate games like coc,cr,mc5, some social stuff like instagram,fb ..but device temperature is getting to high ..can anyone know solution of this.... Sorry for my horrible English...
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Well first of all, you say that it gets too hot? Can you show us a screen shot of how 'hot' it is? It's quite normal that it heats that's just the way how electronics work.. What is your surrounding temperature?
Puddi_Puddin said:
Well first of all, you say that it gets too hot? Can you show us a screen shot of how 'hot' it is? It's quite normal that it heats that's just the way how electronics work.. What is your surrounding temperature?
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My surrounding temp. Normally at 40°C and how i take screenshot of my phn temperature..can u help me..??
soham_mehta said:
My surrounding temp. Normally at 40°C and how i take screenshot of my phn temperature..can u help me..??
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CPU-Z is a good app. Also CPU float to monitor the CPU temp when you are gaming. 40 C is a quite hot surrounding temperature.. Its normal for smartphones to get that hot in such environment. Try to stay out of the sun...
Puddi_Puddin said:
Well first of all, you say that it gets too hot? Can you show us a screen shot of how 'hot' it is? It's quite normal that it heats that's just the way how electronics work.. What is your surrounding temperature?
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Puddi_Puddin said:
CPU-Z is a good app. Also CPU float to monitor the CPU temp when you are gaming. 40 C is a quite hot surrounding temperature.. Its normal for smartphones to get that hot in such environment. Try to stay out of the sun...
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Its my screen shot of temperature of phone.. sometimes its higher while playing games...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_s6ftfZ_aKUWHcwUG5tcGtVcTg/view?usp=drivesdk
soham_mehta said:
Its my screen shot of temperature of phone.. sometimes its higher while playing games...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_s6ftfZ_aKUWHcwUG5tcGtVcTg/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thats not hot at all... Especially with that surrounding temperature.. Ive hitted 43-45 here while it was 31 degrees celcius.
Hi All,
I'm using my Z2 since 2017 Jan. I've unlocked the bootloader after a year (non-treble), and since then I've used AEX, Bootleggers etc. Last week after i've switched to carbon rom, I've noticed heating for normal usage. Normal multitasing (Facebook, Chrome, 9gag app) = 45-55 degrees of Celsius. I've switched between a couple roms, no change. This is when I've decided to start over - ZUI 1.9 - bootloader lock then 3.5.X for the baseband, then bootloader unlock, new TWRP, Treble this time. I've tried AEX 5.8 and now ArrowOS, but no change, when I wake up the phone 30-32 C, then when I open something up 40-45-47 very quickly. Is there a way to fix this, or maybe I have HW issue?
Thank you
Try using the sun cooling mod
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/thermal-mod-sun-cooling-7-x-8-xtreble-t3775684
Dom013 said:
45-55 degrees of Celsius
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Sorry to contradict, its not heating, its warm, but not something you can call hot.
Facebook, Chrome, 9gag app
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I haven't used 9gag, but both FB and chrome aren't quite resource friendly to start with.
maybe I have HW issue?
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The issue is more or less same here too.. When I am using my Z2 Plus outdoor under direct sun light and Indian summer. Even basic idle phone calls would warm it up. Playing PubG outdoor under sun light feels like holding hot metal and burning my fingers.
Is there a way to fix this
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There are thermal mods available for aggressive throttling of CPU for achieving lower temps. You may also try using a kernel which supports editing on fly, like nameless (using kernel editor app from play store) to underclock your CPU / GPU for less heat.
NaXal said:
Sorry to contradict, its not heating, its warm, but not something you can call hot.
I haven't used 9gag, but both FB and chrome aren't quite resource friendly to start with.
The issue is more or less same here too.. When I am using my Z2 Plus outdoor under direct sun light and Indian summer. Even basic idle phone calls would warm it up. Playing PubG outdoor under sun light feels like holding hot metal and burning my fingers.
There are thermal mods available for aggressive throttling of CPU for achieving lower temps. You may also try using a kernel which supports editing on fly, like nameless (using kernel editor app from play store) to underclock your CPU / GPU for less heat.
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Are you mad or what? 45-55 degree celcius is very hot.. my phone is always under 40 even under sunlight with extensive video playback and browsing and around 45 when playing pubg.. this is what i can call warm.. not 45-55 with light use, i suggest to use characteress's thermal mods to cool down your phone
sidS6 said:
Are you mad or what? 45-55 degree celcius is very hot.. my phone is always under 40 with extensive video playback and browsing and around 45 when playing pubg.. this is what i can call warm.. not 45-55 with light use, i suggest to use characteress's thermal mods to cool down your phone
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Pardon me for being a noob, but I am unable to understand how can a software cool down a phone below ambient temperature?
I am from a part of India (Kolkata) where often Ambient temps hit 45c outdoor !!
Some input would be really helpful.
NaXal said:
Pardon me for being a noob, but I am unable to understand how can a software cool down a phone below ambient temperature?
I am from a part of India (Kolkata) where often Ambient temps hit 45c outdoor !!
Some input would be really helpful.
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I agree that ambient temperature plays a big role in device heat management, but software(thermal configurations) play a huge role in regulating temperature, you can experiment yourself, just underclock processor in kernel adiutor to about 1.8 ghz and heating will be reduced significantly, our device has sd820, which is known to have heating issues in many devices. It's a quite powerful proccesor(2.15ghz) , so when all the cores are performing at their highest (like when playing pubg) ,heating is bound to happen . So by underclocing to 1.8 ghz you can reduce it. And regarding thermal config files, they are just files that throttle the performance of the device when it's heating, to cool down, sure your device's performance will take a hit, but this will cool down your phone
sidS6 said:
I agree that ambient temperature plays a big role in device heat management, but software(thermal configurations) play a huge role in regulating temperature, you can experiment yourself, just underclock processor in kernel adiutor to about 1.8 ghz and heating will be reduced significantly, our device has sd820, which is known to have heating issues in many devices. It's a quite powerful proccesor(2.15ghz) , so when all the cores are performing at their highest (like when playing pubg) ,heating is bound to happen . So by underclocing to 1.8 ghz you can reduce it. And regarding thermal config files, they are just files that throttle the performance of the device when it's heating, to cool down, sure your device's performance will take a hit, but this will cool down your phone
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Thanks for the long reply. But being a noob it seems I am still unable to find the answer for my question.
How can a software cool down my device below ambient temps?
As far as I know, no software tweak can even push device temps below ambient. And ambient being 45c, device will for sure run a few deg over that. No matter how much tweaking is done.
So not sure how I am "mad" for calling 45-55c range normal !!