Source: Korea Samsung Headquarters clerk (from my country) sharing with his friend.
Reporting:
- Several High positioned personal resignations.
- The Firm stands strong and united, instead of despairing over the situation.
- Samsung's Engineers are working overtime over a new technology that will revolutionize the smartphone market. Priorly, this technology was supposed to be targeted for the following years. But after the Note 7 disaster, they decided to push it for the next Smartphone release.
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Opinion: Sounds legit. Just wanted to share the news. Nothing official of course.
I guess these "high positioned personnel" are the ones who pushed for batteries to be made by Samsung SDI. What makes it even more disappointing is, the replacement units are still SDI batteries. While we've heard nothing from the China region units with ATL batteries.
Samsung should shut their factory down and just stick with the winning formula.
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Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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Agreed.
Instead they should solidify their present technology like avoiding explosions...
B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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How do you know this? You don't. We don't know the cause yet.
Well! Tell them to fu** ing explain to us what was it they messed up so bad to infringe our personal property, safety and make us a ton of expences we will never get back!! Tell them they should be convincingnus they are not incompetent to make electronisc anymore in the first place!!
Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
I have turned fast charging off via the cable and wireless. I have zero over heating problems, zero lag issues, phone is acting like a phone. the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc.... That is the hard part. I will probably turn my Note 3 into my travel device for music and games and such. Like a glorified Android iPod touch. Ill just turn disable to mobile data and phone stuff, hide the sim card removed icon.
A lot of work still. Damnit Samsung.....
My note 7's (both the original and the replacement) have worked basically perfectly. They don't overheat, don't lag, really not a single problem. The Note 7 is by far the best overall smartphone made to date. Best display, best display to overall size ratio, best camera, waterproof, etc. Only two issues I would say are the edge display which makes a tempered screen protector impossible and a so-so external speaker. And of course the kicker - the non-removable battery. Had they just made it with a removable battery this issue would have not been a phone-killer. It is sad that the best phone ever made to date is killed off like this. And we still have no definitive answer to what is the problem? Seems incomprehensible.
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Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
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That sounds like speculation. These devices have been melting without being charged. We don't even know if Samsung knows what the actual problem is. Hopefully it all comes out so we get some reassurance about their next phones.
I read a lil bit ago that they didn't know what the actual problem was which is why they decided to kill it. They had over 100 people testing them round the clock and could not duplicate the issue of causing one to smoke/catch fire... of course though they were an anonymous
person close to the situation.
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"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.
Itchiee said:
"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc
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Look, I get it, I want to keep my phone as well, and I am not sure what I will do. But to fly with it, while you base the rest on rumors, is plain irresponsible. What you do at home is your business, but getting on a plane with several hundred passengers and a possibly defective phone isn't (there's literally no way for you to tell whether your phone is safe or not). Samsung did after all improve the replacements as they are reportedly catching fire without being charged.
Just wondering who here is keeping the note 7 and taking the risk of it exploding? I'm happy to keep mine though little annoyed that they've stopped gear VR support and I'm 80% certain Samsung will eventually force us all to return the note 7 by maybe a software update that renders the phone useless.
I honestly have no idea what phone I'd get, I had the S7 edge as a temporary replacement phone while the recall was going on and it didn't feel as good as the note 7, the software wasn't as good and I missed the little features like the swipe gesture in the camera app for example. I still have my note 4 but it uses a different sim card so will have to get an adaptor but even then the note 4 seems really out dated in comparison but I get to keep the S-pen which is the biggest reason I got a note device in the first place. I also have a gear s2 smart watch and while it should work with other android phones it's just works better with a Samsung phone. I hope Samsung do something quick maybe release a note 8 and replace the note 7s with it lol there's just no alternatives.
What are you doing with your note 7?
Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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What are you doing with your note 7?
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Hanging on to it for as long as I possibly can. If the deadline for a replacement or refund is midnight on 31st December, I'll hand it in on 31st December.
Is a p**s take though like what about people who've brought cases for the note 7 and other accessories? I purchased my gear vr from ebay for £80 as the seller had it with the note 7 but didn't want it and I couldn't seem to find it anywhere online or in shops probably due to the recall. I had the S7 edge at the time so could still use it but now they've cut off note 7 support so I no longer can use my gear VR so I'd at least like to know exactly what's going on so I can possibly see about selling it. Add on top the money I've spent on apps which I can no long use on the gear VR it's just ridiculous. I personally wouldn't mind waiting through another recall as long as I get to keep and use the note 7 I have then just swap it for a new and hopefully completely safe note 7 but looks like the note 7 is done for.
I'm keeping mine. I will treasure it even more now knowing once it's gone, it's gone forever. Now I need to figure out a way getting rid of the 60% charging cap. I love this phone so much!
jak341 said:
Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
If I change the build.prop file, do you reckon I can trick the oculus app into thinking it's an S7 edge not a note 7?? I used it on the gear vr before the update and it seemed to work okay without getting stupidly hot even had it on charge lol.
The phones I want aren't out yet... Hoping final refund instructions come out in time to pre order the v20.. or maybe the pixel . I'm in the Philippines... Don't know how I can order the pixel lol
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
jak341 said:
If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
Time to cut loses. Thats what samsung did. The phone hase become a liability. Get your money back if you can.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
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Why don't you just use it? Seriously there's been like 8 with problems out of what, 2 million, 3 million? Seriously you have more chance of being run over than having a problem with the device.
The thing with statistics is they can be unintuitive and lead to strange conclusions. Let's say one phone in every 500,000 is going to develop a fault and catch fire. From Samsung's perspective, that means they can be certain they will have lots of unhappy customers, potential lawsuits and bad publicity and therefore it's a bit of a no-brainer to stop selling it.
But from your perspective, you have a 500,000:1 on chance that your phone will have no problems. And in the remotely unlikely event that it does, how likely is it to kill you, burn your house down or anything like that. Even less likely. There are ZERO such reports.
So it's up to you, but for me, it's a no brainer to keep using it, and I hope Samsung will respect that point of view and not cripple our phones with some unnecessary and unwanted forced update.
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
What did samsung do with the phone after they recalled it, if they didn't fix the issue?
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
Rick GM said:
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
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https://twitter.com/SamsungUK/status/785863444696272896, they want UK note 7 owners to give the phone back
mikesaa309 said:
Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
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Indeed. Just looking it up now, you are 500 times more likely to die from riding a motorbike than you are to have a fire with your Note 7. (Assuming 1 phone per 500,000 has a problem.)
best buy exchanged mine out with no questions asked. I was told to even keep the 256GB SD card. unfortunate I went to the dark side and got iphone7 plus. The LG was just cheap and I was unimpressed. Buying the Google Pixel XL outright to bring over to Sprint was not a option for me. I am done with Sammy with all the issues I have had with there products since the Note 4 and other house hold appliances. Iphone was my only option.
So ...
For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
What's making it hard to switch even temporarily to a different brand?
I've grown accustom to the curved screen that i once chocked up as a gimmick for its functionality, I now appreciate for it's feel and look, for example making the Note 7 look bezel-less and feel so comfortable in the hand. So while searching for a replacement I see other phones with curved screens and thing "Ok, here we go ..." then look how that companies curved screen functionality just pales in comparisons to Samsung's elegant, refined, clean UI and layout, even though I fully admit, I rarely ever use the edge function, but the thought of losing it makes me a bit sad. The same can be said for the s-pen, even as a graphic designer and digital illustrator, I don't use the s-pen as much as one would think, granted I do rough out sketches on my Note 10.1 2014 before going to my desktop and Wacom Cintiq almost every time I do client work, but the s-pen on my Note 7 stays in its silo unless I jot a quick memo or feel like playing with the functions ... but its there when I want it.
Wireless Charging & Fast charging isn't as accessible as you would think these days, considering Samsung users have it for years, I don't remember the last time i used a cord on my phone. I have an Official Samsung charging puck (non Fast-Charge) in my office at work, and an Official Samsung Wireless Fast-Charge Stand on my nightstand at home, again both functional and both beautiful looking with and without the phone on it.
Official Cases. Nobody does it like Samsung on Official cases, with every new Flagship purchase I grab all the Official Cases, beautiful, premium, function and overall are deigned to enhance the look and feel of the phone.
Build Material and Quality. Just top-notch.
Button Placement. After only using Samsung phones for so many years, the button placement is 2nd Nature. Laid out perfectly.
Camera, Don't even really need to go into details on that. Some of the best in the business. I use the camera daily, I take product photos for work in our portfolios online as well as print, and I use my Samsung's cameras to record our business videos. Everyone here uses the newest iPhones and still call me to take quick product photos for the clients, because as they say "Your phone takes way better pictures." And I agree lol.
Fingerprint scanner. Use it. It works and is refined to work great.
Samsung Pay. It works, haven't had it fail on me yet. And everywhere. Another reason why Samsung is the best in the business.
Iris scanner, new feature, call it a gimmick, I thought it was too at first, but damn ... it works, like every time, at least for me. And it's an awesome feature, Samsung gives you things like this to show you they are leading in innovation and tech, you don't have to use it, but you can if you want that extra gadget.
S-Health? I use it. I LOVE wearables, and once again Samsung leads the pack, I own the Gear s2 and Fit2 currently, and have owned every Gear since the 1st, I can't wait to dish out the money for the Gear S3 in a month either lol. And while the watch may connect to non-Samsung phones, the integration isn't the same. And I like everything cohesive.
Gear VR, Again, have had once since the Innovators Edition, and bought a shiny new one back in August for my Note 7, Use it maybe every 2-weeks to watch some Hulu or Netflix and explore some content, But again, even though I don't power use it, it's there when and if I want to, adding another cool function and layer to own a Samsung flagship.
Some people hate Touch-wiz, I've owned no other brand of phone since the Note 1, can't say I've ever had an abnormal lag issue that people say they've experienced, snag here and there, but name a device or OS that doesn't snag every once in a while. Touch-wiz, like it or not, is clean, smooth, functional, easy to navigate and customize, modern and elegant. I never have any issue with it and I power use with heavy media use pretty much daily.
That said, Samsung nailed it with the Note 7. They did and I know I'm not alone is saying that. This phone aesthetically, is perfect. symmetrical, minimal but still flashy with the glass and reflection, the shape of the phone is exactly how I always wanted a phone to look, rectangle, thin, flat and the edges only slightly rounded, unlike Samsung's S-Series that are very rounded and almost look like a toy or feminine in my opinion, very round and bubbly, the Note series, seems to look more masculine and business like with harder corners and a sharper less-gimmicky aesthetic. And the Blacked-out understated Black Onyx Note 7? ... c'mon. So freaking sleek.
Inside, Touch-wiz is clean, granted I also use the "Black Edition" Theme and an app that create custom rounded Google Paper-esque Icons for each App icon, making my home-screen so great looking. * App I use is called "Materialize" I highly recommend it.
So I guess to keep ALMOST everything i stated above, the smart and easy solution is to just grab an S7 and maybe I will, but VERY VERY reluctantly, and without a choice, because as I stated above, they're just ugly, the shape of the phone I just cant digest. Spec-wise the phone is a parallel phone, ascetically and feel-wise, it's not even in the same ball-park. My little brother owns and loves his S7 Edge, I purchased an S7 Edge Pink Gold for my mom when i grabbed my Note 7 in August, she loves it, Says shes never owned anything so pretty. But for me, after holding a Note 7, there's no going back, it may not be a downgrade on paper, but in hand and visually, anything but the Note 7 is a downgrade.
After reading article after article and comment after comment of people bashing Samsung and of people trying to bully people or talk them into just exchanging the phone, I figured I'd write this post up as a little bit of insight into why I at least haven't yet, and maybe I'm alone in feeling like this, don't really care.
Overall, I feel safe with the phone. I don't fly often (haven't in years and don't plan to anytime soon) so the FAA Ban doesn't affect me. I own my home, my wife doesn't feel threatened by the Note 7 (also a Samsung user) and I know if my phone does "explode" that it's on me, I take responsibility for holding onto the phone after the recall. I will not sue or go to the media.
But I can't for the life of me, turn this phone in. I can't. lol I want to, so i cant move on and pout this recall fiasco behind me and enjoy my phone and my Gear VR, but after weeks of researching and physically holding different phone options, they all pale in comparison. In my eyes, Samsung finally made the perfect phone aesthetically, at least for me. And now I just gotta give it back?! lol nah. Not yet at least.
I'm on the next plan through AT&T, turned my S6 Edge + into upgrade, so without the Note 7 I'm phone-less, I've looked into just buying a temp phone until the S8, granted that the S8 appeals to me. And even with buying a temp phone, it has to be up to spec and allow me to have the functions I've grown used to with Samsung's latest Flag-ships. So again, an S7 Edge is my only option, and paying $800 for a phone that I originally passed on almost a year, is a hard pill to swallow. To think the S8 is just gonna be another S7 looking phone with only a 5.5" screen and maybe an added iris scanner, isn't really getting me excited, but I can at least hope they took a page from the Note 7's looks for it.
And then to wonder if the Note series in general is dead ... man. lol That sucks. The Note series wasn't built off trend like the iPhone, it was built of merit, its earned its reputation and earns my business. The Note 7 having it's issues is so unfortunate, especially when in my opinion, its THE BEST Samsung phone to ever hit the market.
So while I still weigh my options for a replacement phone, not knowing if I will wake up to that dreaded only 60% charge or even worse a blocked IMEI or bricked phone. I don't do it lightly. This post and my feelings may seem excessive, but Aug/Sept is like my Superbowl, I wait yearly for new tech announcements and I really enjoy it, my phone is on me daily, everywhere. It get used a lot, i have to hold it and use it a lot. I have to enjoy using it and trust my information on it, it has to be an all in one, and for me ... it also has to look good doing it. So that's why I love this Note 7. It nails my criteria and kicks it up 100 more notches.
I'm sure this post will get trolls throwing the "fanboy" crap around or the know-it-all's blowing it up with "just turn it in!" nonsense, But at least here's one persons view of why i still carry a "potential bomb" (laughable) around. And for the people that could easily just return, switch brands or exchange to an S7 and move on, awesome, wish i could too, but for me it's not that simple, I have too much invested in Samsung, money-wise and routine-wise, and too much time and enjoyment invested in this specific phone to just hand it over.
Anyone else is the same boat?
Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
i wish i could like your post a billion times..you my friend jus gave the longest most interesting post i ever read. im not a poster im a reader but reading your post i had to say something..sadly for us in America samsung is releasing a big screen phone over in china..6gbram..6inch screen..im not sure about s pen though..its the C9 coming out in november..hopefully we get a phone very twin brotherly similar to the note 7 because its the best phone i ever used..
Dmac1984 said:
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For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
Anyone else is the same boat?
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Sorry I didn't want to repost everything you wrote. I feel exactly the same way, word for word! Your post is upsetting me even more now, and you didn't even mention the water resistant feature or ability to pin hand written notes/reminders to the Always On Display...this feature meant I never had to turn on or touch my phone to remind myself of tasks when I am at work. Also, I rooted my phone and applied the dual speakers mod giving it the stereo sound with Viper4Android I so badly wanted on my Note.
It is a total and complete phone! How can I replace it???
I've received an email from Samsung saying they're arranging collection of my Note 7. :crying: I don't want to give it up but I also don't want to be in a situation where the phone is remotely killed and I miss out on the refund/replacement altogether. :crying:
Dmac1984 said:
So ...
For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
What's making it hard to switch even temporarily to a different brand?
I've grown accustom to the curved screen that i once chocked up as a gimmick for its functionality, I now appreciate for it's feel and look, for example making the Note 7 look bezel-less and feel so comfortable in the hand. So while searching for a replacement I see other phones with curved screens and thing "Ok, here we go ..." then look how that companies curved screen functionality just pales in comparisons to Samsung's elegant, refined, clean UI and layout, even though I fully admit, I rarely ever use the edge function, but the thought of losing it makes me a bit sad. The same can be said for the s-pen, even as a graphic designer and digital illustrator, I don't use the s-pen as much as one would think, granted I do rough out sketches on my Note 10.1 2014 before going to my desktop and Wacom Cintiq almost every time I do client work, but the s-pen on my Note 7 stays in its silo unless I jot a quick memo or feel like playing with the functions ... but its there when I want it.
Wireless Charging & Fast charging isn't as accessible as you would think these days, considering Samsung users have it for years, I don't remember the last time i used a cord on my phone. I have an Official Samsung charging puck (non Fast-Charge) in my office at work, and an Official Samsung Wireless Fast-Charge Stand on my nightstand at home, again both functional and both beautiful looking with and without the phone on it.
Official Cases. Nobody does it like Samsung on Official cases, with every new Flagship purchase I grab all the Official Cases, beautiful, premium, function and overall are deigned to enhance the look and feel of the phone.
Build Material and Quality. Just top-notch.
Button Placement. After only using Samsung phones for so many years, the button placement is 2nd Nature. Laid out perfectly.
Camera, Don't even really need to go into details on that. Some of the best in the business. I use the camera daily, I take product photos for work in our portfolios online as well as print, and I use my Samsung's cameras to record our business videos. Everyone here uses the newest iPhones and still call me to take quick product photos for the clients, because as they say "Your phone takes way better pictures." And I agree lol.
Fingerprint scanner. Use it. It works and is refined to work great.
Samsung Pay. It works, haven't had it fail on me yet. And everywhere. Another reason why Samsung is the best in the business.
Iris scanner, new feature, call it a gimmick, I thought it was too at first, but damn ... it works, like every time, at least for me. And it's an awesome feature, Samsung gives you things like this to show you they are leading in innovation and tech, you don't have to use it, but you can if you want that extra gadget.
S-Health? I use it. I LOVE wearables, and once again Samsung leads the pack, I own the Gear s2 and Fit2 currently, and have owned every Gear since the 1st, I can't wait to dish out the money for the Gear S3 in a month either lol. And while the watch may connect to non-Samsung phones, the integration isn't the same. And I like everything cohesive.
Gear VR, Again, have had once since the Innovators Edition, and bought a shiny new one back in August for my Note 7, Use it maybe every 2-weeks to watch some Hulu or Netflix and explore some content, But again, even though I don't power use it, it's there when and if I want to, adding another cool function and layer to own a Samsung flagship.
Some people hate Touch-wiz, I've owned no other brand of phone since the Note 1, can't say I've ever had an abnormal lag issue that people say they've experienced, snag here and there, but name a device or OS that doesn't snag every once in a while. Touch-wiz, like it or not, is clean, smooth, functional, easy to navigate and customize, modern and elegant. I never have any issue with it and I power use with heavy media use pretty much daily.
That said, Samsung nailed it with the Note 7. They did and I know I'm not alone is saying that. This phone aesthetically, is perfect. symmetrical, minimal but still flashy with the glass and reflection, the shape of the phone is exactly how I always wanted a phone to look, rectangle, thin, flat and the edges only slightly rounded, unlike Samsung's S-Series that are very rounded and almost look like a toy or feminine in my opinion, very round and bubbly, the Note series, seems to look more masculine and business like with harder corners and a sharper less-gimmicky aesthetic. And the Blacked-out understated Black Onyx Note 7? ... c'mon. So freaking sleek.
Inside, Touch-wiz is clean, granted I also use the "Black Edition" Theme and an app that create custom rounded Google Paper-esque Icons for each App icon, making my home-screen so great looking. * App I use is called "Materialize" I highly recommend it.
So I guess to keep ALMOST everything i stated above, the smart and easy solution is to just grab an S7 and maybe I will, but VERY VERY reluctantly, and without a choice, because as I stated above, they're just ugly, the shape of the phone I just cant digest. Spec-wise the phone is a parallel phone, ascetically and feel-wise, it's not even in the same ball-park. My little brother owns and loves his S7 Edge, I purchased an S7 Edge Pink Gold for my mom when i grabbed my Note 7 in August, she loves it, Says shes never owned anything so pretty. But for me, after holding a Note 7, there's no going back, it may not be a downgrade on paper, but in hand and visually, anything but the Note 7 is a downgrade.
After reading article after article and comment after comment of people bashing Samsung and of people trying to bully people or talk them into just exchanging the phone, I figured I'd write this post up as a little bit of insight into why I at least haven't yet, and maybe I'm alone in feeling like this, don't really care.
Overall, I feel safe with the phone. I don't fly often (haven't in years and don't plan to anytime soon) so the FAA Ban doesn't affect me. I own my home, my wife doesn't feel threatened by the Note 7 (also a Samsung user) and I know if my phone does "explode" that it's on me, I take responsibility for holding onto the phone after the recall. I will not sue or go to the media.
But I can't for the life of me, turn this phone in. I can't. lol I want to, so i cant move on and pout this recall fiasco behind me and enjoy my phone and my Gear VR, but after weeks of researching and physically holding different phone options, they all pale in comparison. In my eyes, Samsung finally made the perfect phone aesthetically, at least for me. And now I just gotta give it back?! lol nah. Not yet at least.
I'm on the next plan through AT&T, turned my S6 Edge + into upgrade, so without the Note 7 I'm phone-less, I've looked into just buying a temp phone until the S8, granted that the S8 appeals to me. And even with buying a temp phone, it has to be up to spec and allow me to have the functions I've grown used to with Samsung's latest Flag-ships. So again, an S7 Edge is my only option, and paying $800 for a phone that I originally passed on almost a year, is a hard pill to swallow. To think the S8 is just gonna be another S7 looking phone with only a 5.5" screen and maybe an added iris scanner, isn't really getting me excited, but I can at least hope they took a page from the Note 7's looks for it.
And then to wonder if the Note series in general is dead ... man. lol That sucks. The Note series wasn't built off trend like the iPhone, it was built of merit, its earned its reputation and earns my business. The Note 7 having it's issues is so unfortunate, especially when in my opinion, its THE BEST Samsung phone to ever hit the market.
So while I still weigh my options for a replacement phone, not knowing if I will wake up to that dreaded only 60% charge or even worse a blocked IMEI or bricked phone. I don't do it lightly. This post and my feelings may seem excessive, but Aug/Sept is like my Superbowl, I wait yearly for new tech announcements and I really enjoy it, my phone is on me daily, everywhere. It get used a lot, i have to hold it and use it a lot. I have to enjoy using it and trust my information on it, it has to be an all in one, and for me ... it also has to look good doing it. So that's why I love this Note 7. It nails my criteria and kicks it up 100 more notches.
I'm sure this post will get trolls throwing the "fanboy" crap around or the know-it-all's blowing it up with "just turn it in!" nonsense, But at least here's one persons view of why i still carry a "potential bomb" (laughable) around. And for the people that could easily just return, switch brands or exchange to an S7 and move on, awesome, wish i could too, but for me it's not that simple, I have too much invested in Samsung, money-wise and routine-wise, and too much time and enjoyment invested in this specific phone to just hand it over.
Anyone else is the same boat?
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I feel the exact same way. I have owned every Note since the Note 1 so I am obviously a huge fan. I actually bought the s7 Edge just in case the phone gets blocked or bricked and I still can't bring myself to send back the Note 7.
I can say I feel very much the same way.. with perhaps a bit the exception of S Health since the measurements aren't always correct (instead, I use a fitbit, and manual checking of heartrate/bloodpressure/glucose (which I then again do enter into S Health so it's not entirely pointless to me)).
As I have to return the Note 7 the same time as my wife (which is the biggest reason I haven't done just yet, our schedules are very different), I keep browsing the net, hoping to read or see something that makes me interested to another phone, but I keep coming back to my Note 4 when the day comes that I return my Note 7. The S7 Edge is in a decent second position (I've already stepped away from the idea of upgrading my phone and decided whatever I get next I'll just buy), and the V20 in a third place. There's still some thought of the Pixel but very little to be honest. I'll need to check them out in the store, maybe even take them for a week or so to make a decision (they don't do restocking fees in my state.
But yeah, so far, nothing has come close to the Note 7, and in a way I'm kind of glad my wife and I have such different schedules that I don't really have to get a new phone straight away.. or actually, perhaps I should, but it gives me a bit of an excuse (to my own that is, I know some people feel different about that, to each their own I guess) to keep it for now. I wont be flying for a few more months so I have time lol
I'm disappointed to have gave up my Note, it was a hell of a device, more so on the design front, it's the best designed phone I've ever had, but I got a Pixel XL now and you no what I'm happy with it, the design is lacking a bit but other wise it's still a good alternative.
Kinan Badre said:
Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
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Do what YOU want. YOU. You are not put on this Earth to follow orders from others. As long as you are not harming anyone else then do it. KEEP IT.
It really isn't that complicated.
I bought my first mobile phone in 1989! From that time I have literally owned hundreds of them. I cant think of a brand I have not owned but bet I could mention one or two most of you have not heard of! lol
This Note 7 was something else. It was so much more than 'just' a mobile phone, it just felt superb to own and to hold. It was so feature rich that I have had to keep out of numerous threads here where the OP is asking what to exchange the Note 7 for? The answer is literally so simple. There is nothing presently on the market that combines all the features, quality and performance that the note 7 does-did. Sure some have this or that feature but the Note 7 had the lot and many more besides.
I am so disappointed to have had to return my mobile TWICE I just cant write any more on that point.
My only hope is to get another 'tech junkie fix' in March? Failing that...........well lets see.
The Note 7 in some form must live on and Samsung should be hard at word in their R&D department ensuring the Note range continues.
I disagree entirely when the media continually writes reports about the lasting damage done to Samsung. Not at all. Samsung made the recall what else could they do? Though I doubt conspiracy I do think some of the media reports have hidden agendas and a few have been totally false, still, this is what sells the media and its to be expected these days.
I recall with horror the scenario regarding the Asus Transformer Prime.... Asus lead the field in tablet note books yet dropped a massive clanger with the Prime, its GPS and wi-fi didn't work as the inside antennas could not penetrate the metal top cover so we all bought a paper weight. Asus was literally taken to court in numerous countries and even very large petitions where drawn up. Asus ignored the lot and look at them today.
How many of you remember the infamous transformer Prime? I spent 3,000€ two weeks ago on an Asus ROG lap top!
This situation will blow over and the media will soon look for the next bad news they can report on and milk.
I hope Samsung compensate those of us who bought two Note7's and went through the ringer. I also hope Samsung get their act together and help those who are requesting help and support.
Incredible mobile, incredible to own and operate. I truly miss the device every day. I need that bloody pen! Unable to purchase a Note 5 here in Europe and the Note 4 prices have got to a silly point costing as much as the SG S7 edge. I wanted to buy a note 4 but I must force myself to wait till next march. Self control is not my strong point with my tech vice!
Ryland
The only Phone that is comparable to the Note 7 is the Mate 9. Look it up, due for release next month. Makes you wonder, Mate, Note. For all WE know is it is all part of a long drawn out marketing plan.
Besides the official release date for the Note 7 in Europe was (is still listed as) October 28th. Same exact date the Note 2 was released. And the Note Edge. And the Galaxy View. Hmmm. Pattern Recognition alert!
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Do what YOU want. YOU. You are not put on this Earth to follow orders from others. As long as you are not harming anyone else then do it. KEEP IT.
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Oh heck, not this again in every bloomin thread..."keep it". "Return it". That is not what the OP wants to hear there are a dozen threads on this 'To keep or not to keep that is the question' Cant we get past that?
Ryland
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Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
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I bought my first mobile phone in 1989! From that time I have literally owned hundreds of them. I cant think of a brand I have not owned but bet I could mention one or two most of you have not heard of! lol
This Note 7 was something else. It was so much more than 'just' a mobile phone, it just felt superb to own and to hold. It was so feature rich that I have had to keep out of numerous threads here where the OP is asking what to exchange the Note 7 for? The answer is literally so simple. There is nothing presently on the market that combines all the features, quality and performance that the note 7 does-did. Sure some have this or that feature but the Note 7 had the lot and many more besides.
I am so disappointed to have had to return my mobile TWICE I just cant write any more on that point.
My only hope is to get another 'tech junkie fix' in March? Failing that...........well lets see.
The Note 7 in some form must live on and Samsung should be hard at word in their R&D department ensuring the Note range continues.
I disagree entirely when the media continually writes reports about the lasting damage done to Samsung. Not at all. Samsung made the recall what else could they do? Though I doubt conspiracy I do think some of the media reports have hidden agendas and a few have been totally false, still, this is what sells the media and its to be expected these days.
I recall with horror the scenario regarding the Asus Transformer Prime.... Asus lead the field in tablet note books yet dropped a massive clanger with the Prime, its GPS and wi-fi didn't work as the inside antennas could not penetrate the metal top cover so we all bought a paper weight. Asus was literally taken to court in numerous countries and even very large petitions where drawn up. Asus ignored the lot and look at them today.
How many of you remember the infamous transformer Prime? I spent 3,000€ two weeks ago on an Asus ROG lap top!
This situation will blow over and the media will soon look for the next bad news they can report on and milk.
I hope Samsung compensate those of us who bought two Note7's and went through the ringer. I also hope Samsung get their act together and help those who are requesting help and support.
Incredible mobile, incredible to own and operate. I truly miss the device every day. I need that bloody pen! Unable to purchase a Note 5 here in Europe and the Note 4 prices have got to a silly point costing as much as the SG S7 edge. I wanted to buy a note 4 but I must force myself to wait till next march. Self control is not my strong point with my tech vice!
Ryland
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Ever considered the Note Pro 12.2?
Strange how there aren't many other Samsung devices that utilize the SPen Stylus. Was looking for alternatives to the Note 7 and in lieu of following the 'in-crowd' I went completely in the opposite direction. Eye-ing the Galaxy View right now, along with the Note Pro 12.2, but can't find it currently on sale anywhere!!?
If anything resembles the original Note 7 then we are looking at the Mate 9. Mate? Note? SEE how this works.
IRIS = SIRI It's all the same 'system'.
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Oh sh1t, not this again in ever bloomin thread..."keep it". "Return it". That is not what the OP wants to hear there are a dozen threads on this 'To keep or not to keep that is the question' Cant we get past that?
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How dare you!
Quit your consistent neuro-linguistic programming against the unsuspecting, this is EXACTLY what the OP wants to hear, against the barrage of those all around us using online astro-turfing techniques to make him think he NEEDS to turn his Note 7 in.
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Mate IX si si it is it is!
dannyboi5790 said:
i wish i could like your post a billion times..you my friend jus gave the longest most interesting post i ever read. im not a poster im a reader but reading your post i had to say something..sadly for us in America samsung is releasing a big screen phone over in china..6gbram..6inch screen..im not sure about s pen though..its the C9 coming out in november..hopefully we get a phone very twin brotherly similar to the note 7 because its the best phone i ever used..
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Yea Samsung has no shortage of unlocked phones to choose from, the remaining problem with grabbing one is no VR comparability still.
I'm locked down to Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 or S7 Edge to use my VR, but at this point I'm looking and open to anything even if just temporary.
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Yea Samsung has no shortage of unlocked phones to choose from, the remaining problem with grabbing one is no VR comparability still.
I'm locked down to Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 or S7 Edge to use my VR, but at this point I'm looking and open to anything even if just temporary.
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wait the other samsung phones arent vr compatible..smh super dumb..im thinkin of the note 5 and just rooting it and slapping on a rom but idk that small battery nd no sd card is a bummer
Thanks, OP. Very well stated. I feel exactly the same. I'm keeping mine until they set a deadline for a refund, they block my IMEI, or the Galaxy S8 comes out.
The Huawei Mate 9 leaks look good, but no wireless charging, no S Pen, and no Samsung Pay. Plus the higher resolution curved screen may be China only.
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wait the other samsung phones arent vr compatible..smh super dumb..im thinkin of the note 5 and just rooting it and slapping on a rom but idk that small battery nd no sd card is a bummer
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Nope, unless there is and I don't know about it, but I'm pretty sure the VR privliges are reserved for the flagship, with the high specs.
I've thought about the Note 5 and i might be willing to lose the curved screen and SD card at least temporarily. Honestly I had the S6 Edge + before the Note 7 and never ran into a storage problem, used the cloud for stuff and never keep a lot of games or anything on my phone anyways, i leep those on my tablet, between VUDU, Google Play Movies, Hulu, Netflix and Amazon Video and Music, storage wasnt an issue. But I'd prefer to never have to go back to no SD card again lol.
Is there a Note 7 rom for the Note 5?
I am exactly glad sharing the attitude towards this beatiful device, no other phone can compare not the Icrapphone or the piCRaPxel
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Nope, unless there is and I don't know about it, but I'm pretty sure the VR privliges are reserved for the flagship, with the high specs.
I've thought about the Note 5 and i might be willing to lose the curved screen and SD card at least temporarily. Honestly I had the S6 Edge + before the Note 7 and never ran into a storage problem, used the cloud for stuff and never keep a lot of games or anything on my phone anyways, i leep those on my tablet, between VUDU, Google Play Movies, Hulu, Netflix and Amazon Video and Music, storage wasnt an issue. But I'd prefer to never have to go back to no SD card again lol.
Is there a Note 7 rom for the Note 5?
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there should be 1 im to scroll through the note5 forums to see what they have going on over there..but i doubt im going to it i love the note 7 too much and id it blows ill be on top of it because im never seperate from phone anyway
The Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 & S7 Edge are all compatible with the new gear VR. There's an adapter to change the USB port to the phone.
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The Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 & S7 Edge are all compatible with the new gear VR. There's an adapter to change the USB port to the phone.
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Yeah that what we were saying, all a substantial downgrade in my opinion though.
And the winner is…
The Note 9. I mean Mate 9.
http://playfuldroid.com/alleged-huawei-mate-9-and-mate-9-pro-renders-had-been-leaked/
People should have waited, instead of "rushing in". Patience is a virtue.
This phone looks identical to the Note 7.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
I am raving about this phone specifically because we all know the Note 7 was "the most beautiful phone that ever was". Well now, we have a possible identical "replica", yet some of the specs simply blow away all competition bar none! Insane price tag of $1300 to prove it.
(The website I linked was used to give us an impression of what to expect. By all means check out some of the more established sites, such as gsmarena for more substantial information)
To be revealed on November 3rd.
I want it! Who's with me?
Who are we? Huawei.
(World's 3rd largest Cellphone Manufacturer. Who knew, right?)
It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.
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It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.
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What's wrong with Lavender?
Somewhere I read (cliche statement right there) there will be a multitude of colors to choose.
China only? Then why give us the 1300 figure in Dollars? Please why China? I am moving to China. You coming MateFreak?
LO. Sure if they waterproof it for me. After 1300 USD I will have to swim back home
Downright stupid not to make the pro version available in Europe, I'll rather wait for the note 8 then
Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.
Yet no one says "no stylus no dice" and rushes out to get the V20, Pixel, iPhone, etc, etc.
This is a Note 7esque Phone, and we are on the Note 7 forum. I mean sure, go for the Note Pro 12.2, even a S7 Edge, but to think otherwise?
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Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.
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I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.
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To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used.
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Premium build, Better looking form factor, larger screen, latest tech. etc. I use my stylus, just not as much as people think you're supposed to, that's like saying "why do you have a waterproof phone if you don't go swimming?" waterproof or not, my phone will never see water. If the S8 was an exact clone of the Note 7 minus the s-pen, I'm all over it. But if it comes out looking like another rounded, pebble-shaped, bubbly piece of glass like the S7 I'll once again pass and wait for the Note 8 that i hope has the sharper corners and better overall aesthetics . I work professionally as a graphic designer and freelance digital illustrator, and STILL maybe only pull the stylus out once a week to jot down a grocery list or idea, unless you're someones personal assistant or something like that, I really don't see the s-pen never leaving your hand.
The Note isn't and hasn't ever been just about the s-pen.
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I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.
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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.
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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.
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I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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My wife's AOD in her s7 edge is practically useless. Basically just a clock.
My hope is that the note 5 gets the AOD when it gets the Nougat update. I just purchased a note 5 to use till the next note comes out.
I'm considering Pixel XL with Project FI. It's a downgrade for sure, but It's a fastest android phone and from Google. And Project FI is only available on Google phones - basically, unlimited text/talk plus some data, best coverage in the US and possibly the world for only $25 a month.
What do you think?
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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Its no way as useful even with the update.
It won't show you calendar appointments and tasks like it does on Note 7. Other SPen related features like pinning hand written notes on the AOD screen are amazing useful and convenient. These could never come to the S7 Edge.