I'm actually a little embarrassed to even have to ask this question, I'm also pretty sure I know the answer but better safe than sorry. Can anyone confirm that the Tmobile version of the TP2 is able to access the ATT 3G network? I'm 99% sure it will but that weird Tmob band makes me nervous, any input would be appreciated.
No, it will not. However the ATT version shouldn't be too far behind the Tmo launch so don't worry too much
no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
aaronsmckee said:
no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
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Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 850/1900 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
One of the images advertising it does state all those bands, but does not differentiate which are for gsm and which for 3G (which can be misleading and confusing, ergo the clarification by jim_0068 ^). Though if they share the 2100 I have no idea whether you can get limited functionality or if you HAVE to have both of them. *shrugs*
jim_0068 said:
Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 1900/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
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actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
jim_0068 said:
Please show me where you found this data?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537517
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4144863&postcount=1
aaronsmckee said:
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850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands
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As far as I'm aware:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS:1700/2100
And therein lies the problem... While it supports all the bands that would be required, only a small subset actually apply to a 3G connection/signal...
Minimally, that would be the specs for it to work on T-Mobile, and quad-band GSM is just standard on 99% of phones these days...
baymon said:
actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
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You're correct and i edited my post it is 850/1900 for ATT US 3G
I gaurantee you that the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 will not work on ATT's 3G Network At All... the frequencies for ATT will only support the 2G Network and therefore only phone calls and text messaging will work.
let's not go that far, let's not forget gprs (same speed as dial-up) and more importantly EDGE (for some that's more than enough).
when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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hmm, now I think the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 works on ATT's 3G Network.
It should also work worldwide too.
oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
solsearch said:
oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
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hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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I think those numbers are for software only, in fact you probably don't have the hardware to support the frequencies of the wrong carrier.
seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
solsearch said:
seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
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My Xperia X1a shows UMTS (900) even when I check the settings... IN FACT only the X1i supports
It's very likely that the numbers you are seeing are actually all of the frequencies that are "summed up" and therefore the TP2 for T-mobile does not have the actual hardware.
poetryrocksalot said:
hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
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Those options have been around with the custom ROMs, I have that too on my Fuze, if your hardware doesn't support it then it'll just be an eye candy.
Bottom line is this, if you want to utilize AT&T's 3G, then you'll need to wait for AT&T's Fortress because you need the 850 and 1900 band (UMTS band II). If you want to use T-mobile's 3G you still need a TP2 that has the 1700 and 2100 band (UMTS band IV), and no you cannot use european TP2 to access US T-mobile's 3G band because european's (and asia's) 3G utilizes UMTS band I, they are on a slightly different frequencies even though they are categorized both on 2100Mhz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Are there any differences in the LTE support of N7105 bought in different countries?
Given that not all network providers support the same LTE bands, do the cellphones they sell get restricted to work only under their specific frequencies?
I am planning on buying a N7105 from TMN in Portugal, but I will be moving to the US for a PhD course after a couple months, and I would like my cellphone to not suffer any 4G speed losses due to connectivity restrictions in the device.
I have tried googling this, but could not come to any precise conclusion . Can anybody help?
Thank you in advance!
The N7105 has 800/1800/2600 MHz LTE capabilities, I believe. This is the same for every model sold.
On AT&T in the US, 3G will work just fine. I'm not sure you'll be able to use 4G, though, since they use different bands for LTE.
EDIT: Yes, AT&T uses 700 and 1700 MHz for LTE. The maximum you'd get on their network is HSPA+.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
So after having bought and upgraded the phone for the gf and having seen the amazing display and speed, I'm considering getting one for myself (even though I'm a bit hesitant due to the battery life and:
From what I've seen, it looks like this phone is compatible with:
Metro PCS for and T-Mobile for 3G and Sprint for 4G, I think. (US carriers)
Because I'm really green when it comes to this, I'd like to know: GSMArena lists the 3G network as HSDPA 2100 while Metro PCS for and T-Mobile is listed as carrying the 1900/2100 bands for the 3G network, but doesn't specify what type (eg HSDPA, EV-DO, etc). Does this matter? Like, would the phone not work even though it can tune into the 2100 band because of type?
While on the subject, does anyone know whether or not they'll add more LTE bands to USA carriers? The only US 4G carrier I saw that carries the 800 band is Sprint, which I heard wasn't very good and also don't have compatible 3G bands.
Also, the 2G network (which I'm assuming is voice calls only) for the phone is listed as operating under CDMA 800/1900 bands. Would these bands, the CDMA, work for US carriers? or would it need GSM?
Thanks!
PS For USA users who've managed- how's the phone work with USA carriers?
I know I am coming across as lazy, but trust me I have read and read posts on here about the radio differences of the N900T and N900A, yet I am still confused
Will the wife's 900A which is currently on T Mobile be able to utilize the new T Mobile 700Mhz LTE when it is implemented? I am currently aware her phone does not have AWS 1700. Fortunatly for her she still picks up good wcdma around here as T mobile must be using the 1900mhz band at our home.
Hey guys.....
Search as I may I can't find anything about getting aws ... Band 4 with both 1700 and 2100 to work on my x800 specifically for wind!
Seems it has 2100 which isn't enough to connect.....
So...... Can 1700 be activated at all?
Or is this antenna simply not available for this device?
Someone has to have run into this problem or I may be SOL with this phone.
Side note... Same issue with my Z30. New phone just not working out as smoothly as planned!
Any help would be greatly appreciated......
According to Kimovil: http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-letv-s1-pro-64gb this phone does not have a support for 1700MHz.
If your phone is X800 US version, then it should have band 4 AWS 1700/2100. I'm sure Wind uses much the same frequencies as Telus, and I can get Telus 4G LTE for voice, text and data no problem. My seller (Hong Kong Goldway on Aliexpress) specifically listed band 4 AWS, otherwise, I wouldn't have bought the phone.
Thanks for the feedback....
This is the US version..,.. yeah the add and email queries did list band 4 but stopping in to Wind to try a test sim it didn't get the 1700 half of the band.... Seems it matches the specs of the 1st reply link.....
Reading other successful connections making me wonder if it's a variant version or if the antenna is present and just needed to be activated. .,... Or could be..,..
So if yours came that way only makes this more puzzling....