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G2 hinge a little too wiggly?

Does anyone else think that the G2's hinge is a little flimsy? When I have the keyboard out, the display kind of wiggles in it's hinge.
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Cmon, that has to be the most reported issue about this phone. The hinge is kinda loose or as HTC would say "smooth". Personally it doesn't bug me. I think its just different.
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I'm not talking about the sliding part, I'm talking about the wiggly part when the keyboard is already out. NVM. FORGET IT.

joebobjoe said:
I'm not talking about the sliding part, I'm talking about the wiggly part when the keyboard is already out. NVM. FORGET IT.
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No, I knew what you meant and experienced this too. It's just how the mechanism works, I guess.

I'm not sure. I was using one at the T-Mobile store. It didn't have the loose hinges nor did it wiggle. My phone has the loose hinges, and it wiggles.

Yeah
I'm starting to see that problem! I have 3 G2s! My girl's, my sister's, and mine's. It seems that I'm the only one with that problem. But I also use my phone more than they do!

I went to my T-Mobile store and every one they had on display or as demos had the same loose hinge as my pre-order one. If you picked up the phone by it's top half it would fall open, and if you held just the keyboard half when it was open and angled it toward yourself and gave it a very gentle shake it would close.
Some people are saying that newer ones aren't as loose, but every one I've touched so far has been loose.

Mine is getting that way after 5 days of use now. I couldn't get it to open turning it upside down, and it was very snug and tight. Now turning it upside and it hangs, and when opened and typing it wobbles. Hinge mechanism seems like it'll fail eventually, sooner rather than later sigh.

chewy106 said:
Mine is getting that way after 5 days of use now. I couldn't get it to open turning it upside down, and it was very snug and tight. Now turning it upside and it hangs, and when opened and typing it wobbles. Hinge mechanism seems like it'll fail eventually, sooner rather than later sigh.
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Yeah, I am disappointed that I can't trust my device to be knocked up a little.

elusivebyte said:
I went to my T-Mobile store and every one they had on display or as demos had the same loose hinge as my pre-order one. If you picked up the phone by it's top half it would fall open, and if you held just the keyboard half when it was open and angled it toward yourself and gave it a very gentle shake it would close.
Some people are saying that newer ones aren't as loose, but every one I've touched so far has been loose.
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Why would you go grabbing the half of these phones to test the durability of them? be it top or bottom?...or shaking it...I do not understand that.

That's the problem though, it's not even really getting knocked up. I can only imagine if it falls from anywhere! It's been in my pocket or resting on a table or desk, outside of it in my hands for usage. And just that normal usage in a mere 5 days is causing the hinge to loosen it seems, at least from how it was out of the box. That does not bode well for its lifespan :/

this seems to be happening to alot of ppl! mine does it too, if im laying down and txting i have to have it exactly horizontal if i tilt it forward the screen will just fall...has anyone heard anything official from tmobile or htc about this? if its normal or not? it might just be normal so the keyboard can open really smoothly but then i cant txt laying down lol

you gust must have faulty G2's my phone is solid, no hinge issue at all

I am on my second G2 and it has the same problems only worse as the first one does and did. The hinge is so loose on this one after 1 day that at a restaurant I went to pick it up off of the table and the keyboard just slid out. I am also concerned about the durability of the hinges as in just one day it has gone from a little loose to real Loose. The keyboard now seems to have more give to it. I do like this phone but am undecided as to whether to keep it or not.

New Version of Liveview is out!!! (Updated)

I used to own the original version of the Liveview, but due to the watch holder snap on case design flaw it flew off while playing PS Move and broke (this was one of the two main issues with it). That happened around 3 months ago, and try as I might, I couldn't find a watch that could hold a candle to the functionality and awesomeness that was the Liveview.
Flash forward to yesterday. I saw that Amazon.com was selling the Liveview Directly now (as opposed to a 3rd party vendor using Amazon's storefront). I went ahead and ordered one with the impression that it was the same version, and I had planned to use the velcro idea to keep the liveview attached.
Well today I received the liveview (Amazon Prime FTW), and lo and behold, it's the newer version (the one talked about with the US release). Right now it's doing it's first initial charge, so i haven't updated the FW or anything yet so I will update this thread later with more info, but there are some major differences already that make me happy! The first and most important is the clip-on watch holder. It has been redesigned to stop from popping off, and to work with ANY watch band (that fits the 20mm size coupler of course). The backing is completely filled in.
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Once it's fully charged and I update the FW, I will run some other tests. If you have any questions, or there's something you want me to try, post here and I will get back to you. Also, if you want to order the US release version of the Liveview you can do so by Clicking Here.
Update:
So it's fully charged, and I put it in the updated watch holder, and it snapped in with a nice snug fit. It feels like it's in there really good, and there is no chance it would fall out like before. It's hard to explain, but hot damn it feels like the way it should have in the first place.
before turning it on, I went ahead and downloaded SEUS and updated the firmware for it. I've had it connected to my phone for over 2.5 hours, and have not had a single disconnect (my phone is a Thunderbolt). Now I know a good factor of the disconnects is caused by low memory on the phone, and chances are that isn't applicable with my phone, but there are also disconnects caused by things other than the phone memory. Needless to say, the whole liveview experience has improved drastically, and i'm very pleased none the less.

Hmm. Doesn't really look that different to me. All I can really see that is different is that they've filled the back of the mounting clip in. Which to be honest would probably annoy me more than anything as I used to jam my thumb through that hole to pop the liveview out of it's mounting clip.
I guess you still can't charge it whilst in the mount?
Any other hardware changes?
I can't see any difference to the way the strap is attached. I threw the included strap away as soon as I opened the box to mine and replaced it with a silicone strap with a deployment clasp. So much easier.
What's the model number? Is it still an MN800?
I'm not quite as excited as you are about this, but I'm glad you are!

I just got my liveview yesterday, and it is indeed a drastic change to the watch strap cilp...
The golden quesiton though is how the hell am I supposed to charge it with a watch strap on?!?!
The new 'holster' for the liveview to be used as a watch (not the cloths clip) is so tight that it is VERY difficult to remove from it's mount to charge, so it is still pretty useless that way...and I won't want to weaken the plastic or break anything.
With the silocone strap, does it allow for charging without having to unmount? I am dying to find a good solution for 'on the watch' charging!!

thekenderman said:
With the silocone strap, does it allow for charging without having to unmount? I am dying to find a good solution for 'on the watch' charging!!
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No :/
Because the watch strap pin is effectively directly in front of the MicroUSB plug, there's not a chance that you could charge whilst still in the strap.
The only way to do it is to modify the "belt clip" attachment and somehow attach a strap to that instead.
Pretty piss-poor design flaw to be honest.

What a terrible design. Ugh. Battery life on my livebirw has been piss poor too.
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I bought this one when it was "unofficially" launched in my country 2 days ago. Twitted about what the hey people are fussing about the clip because it's clipped on very tight... Well... Too tight even. Now I have difficulty taking it off.
Any pointers about taking the LiveView from the clip? I got mine clipped on by the shop keeper for added assurance about loose clip, but now I can't seem to be able to release it from the clip.
The clip has two small tabs and one long tab, I wonder which direction I should push before lifting the LiveView from the clip, towards the small tabs or the long tab? Tried pushing and lifting towards the small tabs, but lost my nerve somewhere in the gutter.
Need to second charge the device, and although releasing the pin and strap behind the micro USB helps, I can't rely on this method since I'm planning to buy a real watch strap for it, or got stuck with the velcro strap (ick).

Ya I got mine unofficially released aswell. What a tight ass clip.
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This looks much better
now all i have to do is to try and get one
Sony spares have no idea that it's available, it should be free to everyone with a Liveview TBH

A better choice of wrist band for Liveview.
See this :
talk.sonyericsson.com/message/77377#77377

I just got a leather strap by Timex that has "ez pin". It allows you to remove the strap to charge and easily put it back on....14.99 Walmart in Canada....genuine leather and looks good too....Better than that ass liking Velcro...it now looks decent!
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Im going to do that to mine. Get rid of velcro. Thanks for bumping the topic @user above me.
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So, here is my strap...as you can see, pull the pin which is spring loaded and voila....charging port is accessible and it's not a pain to charge!
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PCTechNerd said:
Update:
So it's fully charged, and I put it in the updated watch holder, and it snapped in with a nice snug fit. It feels like it's in there really good, and there is no chance it would fall out like before. It's hard to explain, but hot damn it feels like the way it should have in the first place.
before turning it on, I went ahead and downloaded SEUS and updated the firmware for it. I've had it connected to my phone for over 2.5 hours, and have not had a single disconnect (my phone is a Thunderbolt). Now I know a good factor of the disconnects is caused by low memory on the phone, and chances are that isn't applicable with my phone, but there are also disconnects caused by things other than the phone memory. Needless to say, the whole liveview experience has improved drastically, and i'm very pleased none the less.
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So, how's it been working for you so far? Thinking about putting it on my Christmas list...

Galaxy Note Crown Stand Dock Review

Hey guys! I just wrote a review on my blog, but I thought I'd also post up some pictures and some thoughts for you here.
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I wouldn't recommend the dock as a stand-in dock, where you plug it in on the go, or quickly. The phone is only supported by the actual USB plug! So I'd be REALLY worried about the port getting loose over time, so I'd skip that. I had that happen to my SGSII. But on the other hand, you can lay it down and it was made for this, too! So there is no need to worry about the usb plug getting loose. I really like it for this. Just look at the last 2 pictures.
I hope you like it! It's a decent dock, I guess. It's more of a stand now. Haha.
Link to eBay store:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Myrin-Sync-Charge-Dock-Crown-Stand-for-Galaxy-note-Black-/230721361620
Price was 30 USD, around 22 euros. Free shipping.

How much was it and where did you buy it from?
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Vic2rious said:
How much was it and where did you buy it from?
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Added a link and price at the end of the first post

Is that a SEIKO watch in the background I see?
I think its the same model as mine (discontinued) the "Superior 5"

ekin said:
Is that a SEIKO watch in the background I see?
I think its the same model as mine (discontinued) the "Superior 5"
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Actually it's a Fossil. I've always liked Fossil watches, they're the only brand I own. Funny, isn't it? haha.

Funny, I'm wearing one now. Fossil, its a good brand.

I wouldn't recommend the dock as a stand-in dock, where you plug it in on the go, or quickly. The phone is only supported by the actual USB plug!
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Am tempted by this dock... but don't understand what you're saying here. I mean... in the images it looks like there's a rear-support for the phone to lean against. Do you have to faff with this or something, or does it remain up, so you can just drop the phone on and have it lean?
Alternatively, does anybody have suggestions for docks that work with cases? I got the iGadgitz case (link), which I'm totally pleased with... it doesn't turn your pockets inside-out when pulling it out.

vodzurk said:
Am tempted by this dock... but don't understand what you're saying here. I mean... in the images it looks like there's a rear-support for the phone to lean against. Do you have to faff with this or something, or does it remain up, so you can just drop the phone on and have it lean?
Alternatively, does anybody have suggestions for docks that work with cases? I got the iGadgitz case (link), which I'm totally pleased with... it doesn't turn your pockets inside-out when pulling it out.
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Tap it to the right or to the left, and it'll put some kind of strain on the phone's port. That's what I don't like. I have a dock that DOES support the sides, and still ended up busting the port. I don't use the inbuilt charging feature. I just put it in the landscape orientation and use a normal microusb, and that also allows me to grab my phone while I'm waking up in the morning and unplug it correctly.

zkyevolved said:
Tap it to the right or to the left, and it'll put some kind of strain on the phone's port. That's what I don't like. I have a dock that DOES support the sides, and still ended up busting the port. I don't use the inbuilt charging feature. I just put it in the landscape orientation and use a normal microusb, and that also allows me to grab my phone while I'm waking up in the morning and unplug it correctly.
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Ah, gotya. Yeah, my Streak sits in landscape, with a fat connector, so never realised the difference with the Note and a tiny connection.
And bugger... your port has already been wrecked? So it's a real issue. Bah.
Mmm... not exactly swamped with options that allow for cases though, but don't think I can risk it since I've gotta stick with this baby for 23.75 months yet
That said, this thing does last an entire day, unlike my Streak... so maybe I'll just get a spider-holder or something without charge/usb.

I use the dock daily. I just don't use the built in charger. I turn it on its side and use the regular charger. I think the angle's great.
But this does make me miss the blackberry dock. Blackberry's have metal connectors ONLY for docks that will never mess with any ports . Fantastic idea in my opinion. Oh well. This is a monster of a phone! hehe. Sold my 9900 for it

Awesome.
Thanks for the info, I've gone a head and ordered one.
I guess it'll be safe on my desk, as the odds on knocking it are near zero. As an alarm clock though, I totally get you... I'd wreck it in a single day.
Ah, charging all day at work... I'll probably save a million* in electric bills.
*Ok, maybe $0.01 per month, lol.

[Review] Hyperion 3800 mAH Extended Battery for LG Nitro HD

First, some pictures:
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Phone with extended back cover, compared with TPU case:
Front and back of phone, with extended battery cover on. The cover is quite solid and fits flush with the phone. The build quality is very good, quite similar to the stock back cover IMO.
As far as the performance goes, I'm pretty happy so far. After I got it, I charged it completely, and then started using it. Here is my usage graph so far. I accidentally left TuneIn Radio running in the background overnight, hence the big "awake" section. Even after 16 hours of some decently heavy use, I've still got 34% left. And this is on the very first charge, before any calibration has been done. The stock battery definitely could not last through this much use on one charge.

I Justin ordered mine
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Update:
Here's the battery life on the second charge.
The vertical line in the middle is from when I shut off the phone to flash a new nightly.

but does the phone feel so clunky now does it bother you

youngv408 said:
but does the phone feel so clunky now does it bother you
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The phone is a few mm thicker now, but it is still comfortable to hold and does not bother me at all. The increase in battery life is very significant.

Ordered mine from Amazon yesterday. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Thank you for the review and pics, very helpful!
I am debating to order one for myself or not. I am wondering if anyone knows about these batteries if they have all the stuff built-in to stop charging once the battery is full and something to turn them off if they overheat. I know all OEM/expensive batteries come with all those things included in the battery. I know on Atrix forums on xda or some other forum I was reading on, someone opened them up and tested and a lot of cheap China batteries were missing the features of stopping when the charge is full and turn off when heated and all that.
Just wondering if this is a well known and recognized brand so it won't blow my phone or mess it up. Any info on that part? It seems like other people who bought this brand for their phones are quite happy. Now that you've had yours for almost 5 days, what do you think? Has the life of battery gotten better with more use?
Thank you once again.

I received mine yesterday, and that night put it on the initial 12 hour charge. Started at 40%, and after around eight hours, it said battery full, and gave me the popup notification. (I have a slow charger) Battery did not overheat, either.
EDIT:
The build of the back cover is very good. OEM quality, IMO.

Just ordered it Can't wait!

Does this company have any plans for a case to accompany the bulky cover? I really like having a case on my phone, but if I go with this battery and cover then I wouldn't have that option.

AllstarE4 said:
Does this company have any plans for a case to accompany the bulky cover? I really like having a case on my phone, but if I go with this battery and cover then I wouldn't have that option.
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Just buy a new cover if you scratch it. For $15 with an extended battery included, it's quite cheap.
I'm using an invisible shield on my screen to protect it, but leaving the back cover exposed since it's so cheap to replace.

I just got it in and it feels bulky but doesn't look bad. I was tired of my phone dying in 6 hrs so I hope this can last me all day I'll update as soon as I try it out.
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I just ordered a battery as well from amazon. Should be here next week or so. Will post more once I actually get it.
Thank you.
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996gt2 said:
Just buy a new cover if you scratch it. For $15 with an extended battery included, it's quite cheap.
I'm using an invisible shield on my screen to protect it, but leaving the back cover exposed since it's so cheap to replace.
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the deal with having a case even if its just a rubber one is that atleast if you drop the phone the case cusions the impact....

do you guys think this battery
http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Nitro-3..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1334009918&sr=1-2
is same thickness and performance just buy guessing i dont think anyone has bought this one

Well there was one review.. I'm assuming that out would be pretty much identical.
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I CANNOT for the life of me get the new back cover off. Other then that, its really good.
Also, anyone else know how to get it off? Lol
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ordered mine off ebay 17.99 free shipping

In order to get the back cover off, I have to start at the bottom, and run my (nearly non-existent) fingernail up the sides of the phone, alternating until it clips off.

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In order to get the back cover off, I have to start at the bottom, and run my (nearly non-existent) fingernail up the sides of the phone, alternating until it clips off.
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This is how I take the stock LG cover off. Seems like the only good way.
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Have a Chance at Getting an S. Need Help Deciding.

Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.

ElsaReyes said:
Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.
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I'm thinking it better be pretty cheap, like about 100.00 or less. It might cost about 60.00 or so to have a shop replace the battery. They can be had on ebay for <20.00 and there are videos on youtube to show you haow to open it and change the battery. It is pretty much EOL for this model...don't think that that's official but it's got to be very close. Keep that in mind.
But...I'm also wondering if these chargers really do damage the battery being on 24/7. Don't they have protection for over charging and they seem to taper the charge rate as the battery gets closer to 100%. I know I've ruined several laptop batteries by leaving them in and on the charger. Aren't these batteries of a different technology?
Buy it cheap, do a full reset and run it and see how it does for a week..

Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?

ElsaReyes said:
Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?
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All things equal, I personaly would probably go with the one with the 1" crack. That's according to how prevalent the burn-in is. The burn-in more likely effects a larger portion of the screen.
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Hmm, one last quick question, the screen burn ones are listed at 10.1 inch. Is there a 10.1 inch Tab S or did they just mislabel it? Don't wanna end up with a tablet that isn't even the one I want.
I would rather go with the cracked screen, but I messaged them to see if it works, and they responded with it seems to, which isn't that clear. I asked for clarification and they haven't responded yet.

there is tab A 10.1 tab S is 10.5inch

Ignored the two I spoke of and jumped on another that the best one availible on the site. Wasn't sure I'd get it as it was bidding and not buy now, and I've never won anything in my life. But I just did it ten minutes ago, cost 240 but I got it.
Oh and it's not just the tablet. It also comes in box, with the charger, usb cable, manual, a samsung smart cover case. And most important of all, an official Samsung Tab S Keyboard attachment, which considering I'm an author, or want to be one, it'll come in real handy.
Here's a pic of my spoils of war.
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Oh, and unlike the other two I'd looked at, this one is 32gb's not 16.

I like success stories! Congrats, hope it works well for you! Looks nice and a decent deal I think.
BTW, I'm not sure...but I think BestBuy was the only one, or one of few, places that sold 32GB versions.

Thank you! It was a real close one. I had bid 250 which didn't change or the final six hours, but I couldn't help but feel a little gittery, been watching all this time, no way was I losing this. So in the last minute, I upped my max bid to 275, and when the auction ended it turned out someone had bid 256, but because of my raise I won for 260. It's just crazy to think how if I hadn't raised it then I would of lost.
And 32GB being rare makes alot of sense. There are very few on ebay, and the cheapest at the time was 269. And all it came with was a generic usb cable, not even the official samsung usb cable.

Wish I could tell everyone how my new tablet is, but the stupid thing isn't here yet. Spent 17 dollars on Priority Mail shipping and it's only moved one state over from where it started in the past 6 days. Priority mail my ass.