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I will surely test when my device gets here in about an hour. Has anyone who has received there non-Verizon version unlocked the bootloader and tried to use Android Pay? Thank you in advance.
elreydenj said:
I will surely test when my device gets here in about an hour. Has anyone who has received there non-Verizon version unlocked the bootloader and tried to use Android Pay? Thank you in advance.
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Sorry to say you can't unlock your bootloader its been locked down
jaythenut said:
Sorry to say you can't unlock your bootloader its been locked down
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He asked about non-verizon. Are all versions locked down?
SysAdmNj said:
He asked about non-verizon. Are all versions locked down?
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Oops miss read lol no you can unlock the bootloader
Hey op!
I've had my pixel XL all day now. I just unlocked my bootloader and re setup my phone... Sadly Android pay isn't working now that I've unlocked my bootloader :'(
Just as a warning to all other users
Although, YMMV!
nexusmaniac said:
Hey op!
I've had my pixel XL all day now. I just unlocked my bootloader and re setup my phone... Sadly Android pay isn't working now that I've unlocked my bootloader :'(
Just as a warning to all other users [emoji14]
Although, YMMV!
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I read that unlocked bootloader now violates Safety Net, so Android Pay won't work at present.
wtherrell said:
I read that unlocked bootloader now violates Safety Net, so Android Pay won't work at present.
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What kind of crap is that Google?! Jeez
How difficult is it to just let us enjoy our devices, ay?
Previously you could unlock bootloader and as long as you didn't root or hid root from certain apps you could still use Google wallet.
Same with the 6P, unlocked bootloader now breaks Android Pay.
It's the app version not the phone. There is another thread here some people withe nexus 6p if using the latest version of Android pay will trigger that, but if using an older version all is fine.
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You need to complain to the banks if you want this fixed. The Banks have dictated to Google what is required to allow paying via phone as it's their loss if you report money stolen.
While I agree, I feel that with a rooted Device using SU, which requires that you allow applications to have root access. Apps cannot have root access without you granting it. And also having the card information heavily encrypted so that even if somehow a hacker gets your data via an app that you install, it would take them 1 million years to bruteforce decrypt the file, it should be safe enough, but banks are too dumb to realize this and impose their will on carriers, and google in our case. So complain to the banks, and google.
Now that the Verizon version is unlocked, is it possible to install the stock Google firmware onto the Verizon model (and subsequently get regular updates from Google, not Verizon)?
The updates still come from Google, regardless of where you bought the device. In fact, if you had a google store version of the pixel witha verizon sim, you would still get the X build as it has a different radio tuned for VZW.
Flashed the google images after unlocking the bootloader and after a few min the verizon build ended up being an update. So far, there is not way to avoid the verizon build unless you are rooted ...
Jalh said:
Flashed the google images after unlocking the bootloader and after a few min the verizon build ended up being an update. So far, there is not way to avoid the verizon build unless you are rooted ...
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The only difference between the V and X builds are the radio.
So they must identify by Imei, which is which.
death2all110 said:
The only difference between the V and X builds are the radio.
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In the bootloader thread there was speculation about how they tie each image for which phone. Some speculated about phones being recognized for their IMEI, SIM,CID, etc etc etc but nothing conclusive. The other day I met a person who got the phone from the google play store and have verizon but his latest build remains NDE63V, not NDE63X. Quiet honestly, I'm skeptical as of which is really the difference.
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In the bootloader thread there was speculation about how they tie each image for which phone. Some speculated about phones being recognized for their IMEI, SIM,CID, etc etc etc but nothing conclusive. The other day I met a person who got the phone from the google play store and have verizon but his latest build remains NDE63V, not NDE63X. Quiet honestly, I'm skeptical as of which is really the difference.
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That doesn't surprise me, It took a week before I got the update. Its a staged rollout, just like any other OTA is.
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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If you can unlock it, yes. But if it comes with 7.1.1 or you let it update to 7.1.1 before you unlock it you are done. It will be locked without a way to unlock it.
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biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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They are the same phone with the same software. There's nothing to flash
biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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Verizon phones:
If it has 7.1.0 then you can unlock the bootloader.
If it has 7.1.1 then you cannot unlock the bootloader.
If you cannot unlock the bootloader then you cannot flash older firmware to circumvent the bootloader lock.
If you want to flash ROM's then do not buy a Verizon phone with 7.1.1 already on it.
CZ Eddie said:
Verizon phones:
If it has 7.1.0 then you can unlock the bootloader.
If it has 7.1.1 then you cannot unlock the bootloader.
If you cannot unlock the bootloader then you cannot flash older firmware to circumvent the bootloader lock.
If you want to flash ROM's then do not buy a Verizon phone with 7.1.1 already on it.
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That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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biijan said:
That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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Unlock your bootloader right away, before you take any 7.1.1 updates.
Then in the future before taking updates, research on XDA first to find out if it causes any problems.
biijan said:
That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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If you update before you unlock you will not be able to unlock. Don't matter where you get it from. VZ and Google's update are the same. The google update our full flash to 7.1.1 will lock you. Probably for good.
So if I unlock my bootloader, in 7.1.0 It'll maintain the bootloader unlock atleast in 7.1.1? It'll still allow OTA updates? On the fence on what I want to do with the Pixel but would rather dePixel8 it while i have the chance.
steber04 said:
So if I unlock my bootloader, in 7.1.0 It'll maintain the bootloader unlock atleast in 7.1.1? It'll still allow OTA updates? On the fence on what I want to do with the Pixel but would rather dePixel8 it while i have the chance.
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My PixelXL came with NDE63P. I used depixel8 to unlock it. After that, it has taken 7.1-NDE63V, 7.1-NDE63X, and 7.11-NMF26O updates through Verizon without relocking the bootloader. I have messed up the phone several times and easily flashed the factory image to fix up each time. Instructions here in the xda PixelXL Forum are helpful. Custom recovery, kernel, or root will stop OTAs from installing.
Whatever you do, be sure to unlock it before taking updates.
Is it possible to overwrite the Verizon/EE bootloader once it is unlocked? So that the bootloader can be relocked and unlocked at will post updating to 7.1.1?
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Is it possible to overwrite the Verizon/EE bootloader once it is unlocked? So that the bootloader can be relocked and unlocked at will post updating to 7.1.1?
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Bootloader is the same. The unlockable "feature" appears to be IMEI related. Sets a flag, apparently...
cam30era said:
Bootloader is the same. The unlockable "feature" appears to be IMEI related. Sets a flag, apparently...
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Great, thanks for clearing that up. Seems best to stay clear of Verizon/EE models if I want to be able to unlock and lock at will.
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Having said that, having to wipe the user data with each unlock makes it pointless relocking it as I want it mainly for app data backups.
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Great, thanks for clearing that up. Seems best to stay clear of Verizon/EE models if I want to be able to unlock and lock at will.
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Having said that, having to wipe the user data with each unlock makes it pointless relocking it as I want it mainly for app data backups.
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Don't relock, we have seen lots of people brick phones that way. If you are trying to pass safteynet then flash a kernel that bypasses it.
I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
revolt1 said:
I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
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Did you look in the development forum..
aholeinthewor1d said:
Did you look in the development forum..
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There's nothing there about root after update
revolt1 said:
There's nothing there about root after update
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There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
aholeinthewor1d said:
There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
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He can't use those root files with an unlocked bootloader
I wish VZW users would preface their thread titles with [VERIZON] so the rest of us could save a few clicks and just ignore them.
@revolt1,
Don't hold your breath waiting. I doubt there'll be a method to unlock VZW Pixel XL bootloader running 7.1.1.
7.1.1 locked up the bootloader again. Need to wait for an exploit. I'm finding .ore and more these days that stock Android is my fav without root now that I have a non-root AdBlock method.
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He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
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He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
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Cuz you have to be unlocked to root. Unlocking is step one before you can do anything.
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
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An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
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If you find one in stock it shouldn't have the update since it just came out last week. You can't remove sim and skip setup and don't connect to wifi. Then you can unlock before taking the OTA. That's what I did on my replacement pixel from best buy
Just to clarify, if you are already unlocked before taking the 7.1.1 update you will still be unlocked after update.
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Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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You can not root it unless you unlock the bootloader. It has always been that way.
tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from
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I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from
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If yours is a Google version then it doesn't matter what update you are on, it will still be unlockable.
How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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lowvolt1 said:
How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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Simple, go to Setting/About phone, and tab the Build number text 5 times. Go back to Setting and select Developer options. If the OEM unlocking option is grayed out, it's a Verizon Pixel/XL, if you can toggle the slidder on and off, it's a Google Pixel/XL and can be bootloader unlocked anytime you want, regardless of update.
Seeing as how you purchased it directly from Verizon, I'm fairly certain it's a Verizon Pixel/XL. Any phone purchased directly from Google's Online Store, will always have the option to unlock their bootloader whenever they want.
Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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What version of Android are you on. If it's on 7.1 still then you can still unlock.
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
Please use the search function before posting a new topic. Multiple threads about the same thing only confuse and clutter. Thanks.
mac208x said:
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
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If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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jd1639 said:
If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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spotmark said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
jd1639 said:
No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
mac208x said:
I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
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The very first post in that thread says the VZW bootloader can't be unlocked.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
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Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
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I've read thru it, I mean someone will crack it sooner or later. Some fine folks brainstorming it. Wish it was as simple as on the one plus, you just wait 7 days and you're unlocked.
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
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Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
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If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
c_86 said:
If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
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I know, was trying to make sure the one I was getting on eBay was infact a Google one. Apparently there's a major difference in the label. Same model number etc. However there's a lot more writing on it. Mention of imported by Google Canada which isn't present on the Verizon one.