With the new direction google seems to be going,does anyone know for sure that this phone wont be locked down? I know it sounds absurd, but this is not a nexus....any insight
Seems like if you buy the Pixel from Google you will be able to unlock. Through VZW... no. That sucker will be locked down.
R2DeeTard said:
Seems like if you buy the Pixel from Google you will be able to unlock. Through VZW... no. That sucker will be locked down.
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I can see that happening, what is your source??
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I can see that happening, what is your source??
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It was on a live stream on CNET where i heard that too. All bootloaders except Verizon`s are unlocked appearently.
Will not be buying these phones however because of the idotic pricing in the EU mainly, 1000 euro`s for the Pixel XL ha ha.
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I can see that happening, what is your source??
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Jcase: https://twitter.com/jcase/status/783299377024512004
Once I purchase the phone is there a way to see if it is bootloader locked or not ? Maybe a menu a command ?
I am not uaed to this bootloader BS .
I am planning to go to best buy an ourcgase one. They have a no questions ask return pokicy so I couls see right them if it is locked or not
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unlocked
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-pixel-xl-verizon-daydream-view/
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https://www.cnet.com/news/google-pixel-xl-verizon-daydream-view/
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Don't confuse carrier/network unlocked with bootloader unlocked... It seems like I shouldn't have to explain that on a place like xda, but here we are!
DracoDan said:
Don't confuse carrier/network unlocked with bootloader unlocked... It seems like I shouldn't have to explain that on a place like xda, but here we are!
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I believe the pixel comes bootloader unlocked everywhere but verizon. I need to verify that thanks.
Or maybe comes bootloader locked but a code will be provide it by google to unlocked it everywhere but verizon.
Thanks
I sure do hope the bootloader is able to be unlocked on vzw i like having the option even if i dont use it
sticky shi..., bootloader must be unlocked, especially for that price.
Anyway, I do not need Android phone without root.
There's a statement from Deutsche Telekom answering a query from a German tech blogger that Pixels bought via that provider will also be bootloader not unlockable.
I still doubt that cause they haven't done that before. We'll see and cross our fingers...
http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/wissenswertes-zum-google-pixel-bei-der-deutschen-telekom/
I preordered mine on the UK EE network. Does anyone know if the BL will be locked? Thanks
cwalker0906 said:
With the new direction google seems to be going,does anyone know for sure that this phone wont be locked down? I know it sounds absurd, but this is not a nexus....any insight
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Do you not read the product details scroll to bottom says unlocked bootloader google store version only
BaconSeeds said:
Do you not read the product details scroll to bottom says unlocked bootloader google store version only
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Which link are you referring to?
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Which link are you referring to?
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Google store link
Man are you guys 2 lazy 2 scroll 2 bottom and read. Only unlocked for google store versions.
https://store.google.com/product/pi...o65GmANio4pd6vDcIXBCbUdWNSWShRt_9eBoC2yLw_wcB
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Man are you guys 2 lazy 2 scroll 2 bottom and read. Only unlocked for google store versions.
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Seriously? How many times has it been covered that carrier unlock is completely different from an unlocked bootloader?
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Seriously? How many times has it been covered that carrier unlock is completely different from an unlocked bootloader?
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In that case have you read that it may be impossible to unlock do to new partitioning? Which means no root. Well im fine with that. Hope people didnt buy it just for root. Dont believe me then search root google pixel phones.
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Google said pixel bought thru google store will have unlocked bootloaders except verizon's
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Google store link
Man are you guys 2 lazy 2 scroll 2 bottom and read. Only unlocked for google store versions.
https://store.google.com/product/pi...o65GmANio4pd6vDcIXBCbUdWNSWShRt_9eBoC2yLw_wcB
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That's referring to carrier unlocked. Not bootloader unlocked.
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It's the deal breaker for me. Will the G4 like the G2 and G3 have a locked bootloader? The phone itself looks great but if LG do this again, they can forget it.
Batfink33 said:
It's the deal breaker for me. Will the G4 like the G2 and G3 have a locked bootloader? The phone itself looks great but if LG do this again, they can forget it.
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I am afraid now a days you will have to look at the M9 or Nexus if you want an unlocked boot loader. Of course it will just be a matter of time before that will be bypassed like on the G2 & G3.
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I am afraid now a days you will have to look at the M9 or Nexus if you want an unlocked boot loader. Of course it will just be a matter of time before that will be bypassed like on the G2 & G3.
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My Note 4 came with an unlocked bootloader and my Z2 last year was unlockable. I had the G3 for a month and gave up with it as it took too long for a work around.
I was talking about an across the board unlocked, not dependent on variant/carrier, etc. Those two are the only ones besides any "Google Play Edition" phones, which I haven't seen with the current generation,by which are going to be factory unlocked. Good luck in your search.
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I was talking about an across the board unlocked, not dependent on variant/carrier, etc. Those two are the only ones besides any "Google Play Edition" phones, which I haven't seen with the current generation,by which are going to be factory unlocked. Good luck in your search.
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I am pretty sure it is a decision made by the carrier.
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Good news.
The unlock text is in english but the rest is not?
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Isn't that for the SIM unlock and not the boot loader unlock? Two different things.
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dpos21 said:
The unlock text is in english but the rest is not?
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Good point. Looks fishy to me.
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Mojar7070 said:
Good point. Looks fishy to me.
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Well, I won't buy one until we have definitive proof it can be unlocked. The fact you don't have total control of a product you own and buy is crazy.
could you guys with the g4 try stump root because jcase reported that lg had accidentally undone the patchon some devices
suljo94 said:
could you guys with the g4 try stump root because jcase reported that lg had accidentally undone the patchon some devices
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not work
good point good new lol
If you guys are comparing locked bootloader in the G4 to the G2, please note the G2 was rooted and had development going almost immediately.
Nothing to worry about too much
tiguy99 said:
If you guys are comparing locked bootloader in the G4 to the G2, please note the G2 was rooted and had development going almost immediately.
Nothing to worry about too much
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how to compare ?
tiguy99 said:
If you guys are comparing locked bootloader in the G4 to the G2, please note the G2 was rooted and had development going almost immediately.
Nothing to worry about too much
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The G3 bootloader wasn't unlocked for months.
T-Mobile never had a locked bootloader
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Isn't that for the SIM unlock and not the boot loader unlock? Two different things.
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Actually, that is for bootloader unlock. It is a feature of lollipop. I am surprised to see it outside of nexus however. Checking that option does not unlock your bootloader, rather it is a security setting to allow the process to happen. With Nexus, you must check this option before you can use "fastboot oem unlock". It has also been the cause of many soft and hard bricks on the Nexus 6.
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Actually, that is for bootloader unlock. It is a feature of lollipop. I am surprised to see it outside of nexus however. Checking that option does not unlock your bootloader, rather it is a security setting to allow the process to happen. With Nexus, you must check this option before you can use "fastboot oem unlock". It has also been the cause of many soft and hard bricks on the Nexus 6.
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Good to know, thank you.
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I purchased my Google Pixel XL through Verizon when it was released. I'm now looking to root my phone completely. Does anyone know if the phone can be rooted?
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Yeah just boot twrp and flash su
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Yeah just boot twrp and flash su
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That's what I was hoping to hear!! Thanks!
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Screenshots didnt show up on phone for some reason.
Verizon did an "update" that removed your ability to unlock the Pixels
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Verizon did an "update" that removed your ability to unlock the Pixels
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He is fine, look at the second screenshot. Its already unlocked.
Hello everyone. I think this might be a good sit to ask my question. My wife is using the pixel xl on Verizon, I have it unlocked, rubbing dirty unicorn, and has not been touched firmware/rom wise since almost a year ago. I have been using my OP3T and need help updating her firmware, radio, modem, ROM and ask that jazz... Backups abs restores are funny I remember that, but not specifics. Please, can someone point me in the right direction so that I can get her phone up to date as painless as possible... I'm so sorry for the lazimess on my end, this device turned out to be very complicated when it came to modding, and I have a newborn baby so I can't commit tree time to scour the forms, not to mention? Wife dies not like to be without a phone.... We are on Verizon (Fi was awful) so maybe a return to stock and keep BL unlocked, then root... do you still use boot-to-root? Or will magdisk work? Magdisk.zip did not flash for me. I hour someone understands this post abs is kind enough to respond.
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He is fine, look at the second screenshot. Its already unlocked.
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How can you tell?
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How can you tell?
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Look at the first screenshot. By the unlock slider it says 'bootloader is already unlocked'.
Now how in the hell did he get so darn lucky? I've been wanting to unlock my bootloader since I got my Verizon pixel XL since October... Wtf? Not fair.. ? anyways.. I'm still willing to contribute to the exploit of bootloader unlock for something more recent to work... Shame the depixel8 exploit team didn't want to 1up and find us another way.
Dollar short, day too late I suppose... But anyone having an idea to get this done please PM me or post us something....please!!!!!?
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Now how in the hell did he get so darn lucky? I've been wanting to unlock my bootloader since I got my Verizon pixel XL since October... Wtf? Not fair.. anyways.. I'm still willing to contribute to the exploit of bootloader unlock for something more recent to work... Shame the depixel8 exploit team didn't want to 1up and find us another way.
Dollar short, day too late I suppose... But anyone having an idea to get this done please PM me or post us something....please!!!!!?
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?????? How were you not able to unlock the bootloader, did you mean 2016 October or 2017 October? I got my Pixel XL on January 2017 from Verizon and was able to unlock the bootloader.
Unfortunately it was October 2017.
I just wish I could figure it out myself.. you'd think some HTC tool would work maybe since it's made really by HTC and not Google technically. Anyway, someone up for the challenge? Any takers? Please? Lol
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Now how in the hell did he get so darn lucky? I've been wanting to unlock my bootloader since I got my Verizon pixel XL since October... Wtf? Not fair.. ? anyways.. I'm still willing to contribute to the exploit of bootloader unlock for something more recent to work... Shame the depixel8 exploit team didn't want to 1up and find us another way.
Dollar short, day too late I suppose... But anyone having an idea to get this done please PM me or post us something....please!!!!!?[/QUOTE
I have found someone that can unlock Verizon pixel xl bootloader he just did mine on Oreo 8.1.0 about an hour ago. Look on Facebook, his name is smail amzdak since I can't post links here.
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Ran across a article written on June 17th
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Is this for real or just clickbait?
Source: https://www.goandroid.co.in/unlock-bootloader-of-galaxy-s9-plus-snapdragon/84688/
Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.
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Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.
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The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.
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The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.
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its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants
Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
elliwigy said:
its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants
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Can confirm, my SM-G9600/DS (Hong Kong Snapdragon S9), has OEM unlock option in developer settings.
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Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..
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tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..
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A lot of people seem to forget this... If you COO you would do the same. No matter what your mind says. Besides you have the lives of thousand of employees. Millions of share holders that are banking you'll grow and be profitable.
Well nothing on mine Canadian version. NO OEM Unlock
I have a Samsung Galaxy A01 (SM-A015M/DS) Latin American version, Region Panama, with Snapdragon processor. My experience posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-root-device-samsung-galaxy-a01-t4167509
The OEM UNLOCK appears but all of the usual unlock proccedure produces no Bootloader Unlock when it resets.
Did I just buy a stolen Pixel 2 XL? http://www.imeipro.info/check_lg.html is giving the following info
https://imgur.com/r2QrdSJ
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Where did you purchase it?
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Where did you purchase it?
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from a mobile shop....the phone is working fine. I'm in Pakistan by the way and all the Pixel phones come here from the USA or UK
ranasrule said:
from a mobile shop....the phone is working fine. I'm in Pakistan by the way and all the Pixel phones come here from the USA or UK
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If it were stolen and "blacklisted", I doubt the device would be working fine.
Unless "blacklisted" is only effective for use in the USA, as Google suggests.
Google:
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ranasrule said:
from a mobile shop....the phone is working fine. I'm in Pakistan by the way and all the Pixel phones come here from the USA or UK
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I would return to the shop and show them what you've discovered.
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If it were stolen and "blacklisted", I doubt the device would be working fine...
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so basically I'm fine as long as I stay out of the US of A ?
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I would return to the shop and show them what you've discovered.
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tried it....they were of no help
is there any way to tell if this phone was bought directly from google or via a carrier? In the USA or somewhere else?
ranasrule said:
tried it....they were of no help
is there any way to tell if this phone was bought directly from google or via a carrier? In the USA or somewhere else?
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That's too bad. I guess you have no other recourse.
I would contact Google, giving them the IMEI and serial number and ask what info they can provide.
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That's too bad. I guess you have no other recourse.
I would contact Google, giving them the IMEI and serial number and ask what info they can provide.
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couldn't they then remotely disable my phone somehow?
ranasrule said:
tried it....they were of no help
is there any way to tell if this phone was bought directly from google or via a carrier? In the USA or somewhere else?
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Mine is a Verizon phone purchased form UAE, it also shows blacklisted but it works just fine. I receive monthly updates without any problem, even adb sideloaded android pie full OTA when it got released. Main issue with mine is that I cannot unlock its bootloader so obviously can't root it but i believe you can unlock yours and root it.
ranasrule said:
couldn't they then remotely disable my phone somehow?
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Oh! I didn't think of that!
That is something to consider.
I guess I'm out of suggestions.
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Mine is a Verizon phone purchased form UAE, it also shows blacklisted but it works just fine. I receive monthly updates without any problem, even adb sideloaded android pie full OTA when it got released. Main issue with mine is that I cannot unlock its bootloader so obviously can't root it but i believe you can unlock yours and root it.
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Thats good to hear...thanks for the info .....Mundia Silakotia
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so basically I'm fine as long as I stay out of the US of A ?
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If it's working and it says it's blacklisted, it's probably a U.S. only thing as Google suggests.
Clearly someone managed to get Google financing and stopped making payments. So no, you didn't buy a stolen phone. Anyway, the blacklist carriers use here in the United States is only effective if the phone itself is in the US. In your case, where you are in Pakistan, the device will work normally even though it's blacklisted.
For a period of time there was talk of every carrier worldwide using the same blacklist, which would really ruin your day. As of now, obviously nothing has come of it.
Generally a IMEI will only be blacklisted in the country it was reported stolen.
Im getting mixed information as to who can actually use RCS on tmobile... Im bought the unlocked version and flashed Tmobile firmware and still can't use it says its not offered for this device...Im wondering who is on a non unlocked vs unlocked note 10 plus that can use RCS...Tmobile told me over the phone that they sorta shut it down for now i don't know
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Im getting mixed information as to who can actually use RCS on tmobile... Im bought the unlocked version and flashed Tmobile firmware and still can't use it says its not offered for this device...Im wondering who is on a non unlocked vs unlocked note 10 plus that can use RCS...Tmobile told me over the phone that they sorta shut it down for now i don't know
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I think I am?? I can definitely see when a message is delivered and read. I thought those were both features of RCS
I have Tmo phone and when I go to message settings/chat settings have options to send read receipt and share typing indications, so I believe those 2 are RCS functions, just called chat. I find them completely useless for me and disabled them promptly, but if you need it, they seem to be implemented on Tmo branded phone, but I don't know if they actually work.
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This is what I'm getting
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Did you flash the full firmware?
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Did you flash the full firmware?
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Yes as far a s I know. I get the video calling and splash screenView attachment 1
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Yes as far a s I know. I get the video calling and splash screen
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I wonder if it's possible for you to get tmb/tmb/tmb under service provider?
Did you get the recent update from TMobile?
If not what does it say when you check your updates in settings.
Edit: I'm a dummy. Could just read your screen shot.
Did you get the newest update over the air?
pcriz said:
I wonder if it's possible for you to get tmb/tmb/tmb under service provider?
Did you get the recent update from TMobile?
If not what does it say when you check your updates in settings.
Edit: I'm a dummy. Could just read your screen shot.
Did you get the newest update over the air?
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No I flashed it. Are you saying that it should read TMB/TMB/TMB IMSTEAD OF TMB/TMB/XAA
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No I flashed it. Are you saying that it should read TMB/TMB/TMB IMSTEAD OF TMB/TMB/XAA
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When you go into settings / updates does it just say up to date?
I'm not sure if it should be tmbx3 but my unlocked note has tmbx2/xaa.. so the same as yours.
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When you go into settings / updates does it just say up to date?
I'm not sure if it should be tmbx3 but my unlocked note has tmbx2/xaa.. so the same as yours.
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yes it says up to date.....
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yes it says up to date.....
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Okay. I was curious if it was hitting you with the unauthorized software error
Yeah. I dunno. Personally I would try to Odin the latest stock image of the carrier build and use the CSC that wipes (not home_csc). See if that has any affect. If you were in the mood to troubleshoot, depending on how important it is to you.
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Okay. I was curious if it was hitting you with the unauthorized software error
Yeah. I dunno. Personally I would try to Odin the latest stock image of the carrier build and use the CSC that wipes (not home_csc). See if that has any affect. If you were in the mood to troubleshoot, depending on how important it is to you.
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Ha def on the high priority for me. But I'm curious should it say TMB/TMB/TMB or TMB/TMB/xaa
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TMB/TMB/TMB is T-Mobile device
TMB/TMB/XAA is unlocked device flashed with T-Mobile rom.
The last part (XAA) will always be XAA on an unlocked device.
As to the original question:
Delivery and Read receipts are working between the 3 Note 10+ devices the family has here. All from T-Mobile (TMB/TMB/TMB).
zarish said:
TMB/TMB/TMB is T-Mobile device
TMB/TMB/XAA is unlocked device flashed with T-Mobile rom.
The last part (XAA) will always be XAA on an unlocked device.
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Is that the reason maybe I can't seem to get rcs working the xaa
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antawnm26 said:
Is that the reason maybe I can't seem to get rcs working the xaa
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Someone else will have to answer that part as I don't know enough on the technical part of that and how the services work with the provider themselves to answer. I did do an edit to indicate my T-Mobile devices all appear to be working for the RCS features of delivery and read receipts.
zarish said:
Someone else will have to answer that part as I don't know enough on the technical part of that and how the services work with the provider themselves to answer. I did do an edit to indicate my T-Mobile devices all appear to be working for the RCS features of delivery and read receipts.
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Rcs also is just like iMessage in that large video files of 100mb will not be compressed same with pics
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I have the note10+ unlocked original
And its show TMB/TMB/XAA
djelmonstruo said:
I have the note10+ unlocked original
And its show TMB/TMB/XAA
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Are you able to use rcs
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antawnm26 said:
Are you able to use rcs
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i really dont know , how can i test it?
djelmonstruo said:
i really dont know , how can i test it?
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For one go to Google messeges if that the message app your using then go to settings then choose chat features
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