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Which is the best phone for LineageOS 2017?

Nexus is dead, Pixel is nothing (just a Nexus with iPhone price) and Samsung is dead (Exynos/Knox/kernel source), so what is the best phone for LineageOS? I really don't like OnePlus anymore, because for the same price I get a S7 Edge with VR, warrenty and local support (Samsung service point). Car charger for 30 bucks, dash charger, dash cable... f... that!
For now I got a Mi Max Prime (64GB version) and a Mi5s Plus which is just like a 100$ phone compare to firmware support for a highend device (buggy firmware, no real updates, no Xiaomi support (flop)). Don't get me wrong, the hardware is genius (dualsim, 128GB, 6GB RAM, Snapdragon 821, 3800 mAh, QC and for under 400€ with import and shipping) but it feels like the first CM alpha builds from a S3 with Exynos :/
So I need to switch... I looking for a new powerful device with great ROM support, like OnePlus. The battery (SOT) is on the first position, after LineageOS support.
What you think? Switch to the old Nexus 6p, buy a OnePlus 3T (it is the last option for me) or maybe a other phone? A brand new S7 Edge I can get for 400 bucks, a Mi Note 2 for 550 but I really don't care anymore... good battery and official LineageOS is what I need for the future.
I hope you guys can help me.
Regards

Klanac89 said:
Nexus is dead, Pixel is nothing (just a Nexus with iPhone price) and Samsung is dead (Exynos/Knox/kernel source), so what is the best phone for LineageOS? I really don't like OnePlus anymore, because for the same price I get a S7 Edge with VR, warrenty and local support (Samsung service point). Car charger for 30 bucks, dash charger, dash cable... f... that!
For now I got a Mi Max Prime (64GB version) and a Mi5s Plus which is just like a 100$ phone compare to firmware support for a highend device (buggy firmware, no real updates, no Xiaomi support (flop)). Don't get me wrong, the hardware is genius (dualsim, 128GB, 6GB RAM, Snapdragon 821, 3800 mAh, QC and for under 400� with import and shipping) but it feels like the first CM alpha builds from a S3 with Exynos :/
So I need to switch... I looking for a new powerful device with great ROM support, like OnePlus. The battery (SOT) is on the first position, after LineageOS support.
What you think? Switch to the old Nexus 6p, buy a OnePlus 3T (it is the last option for me) or maybe a other phone? A brand new S7 Edge I can get for 400 bucks, a Mi Note 2 for 550 but I really don't care anymore... good battery and official LineageOS is what I need for the future.
I hope you guys can help me.
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right now i'm enjoying my Nexus 6p, but if you want something newer the OP3T is your best shot

That is pretty much how i feel with my old LG g3.

Last I checked the Nexus 7 from 2013 had community support well into 2016. So maybe we should all stop placating Google/Oracle in their resource gluttony & update rampaging....
My 2 cents.

What about the Asus Zenfone 3? So far that's the best hardware I've seen for the lowest price. The software is the only thing I don't like about them so much but so far it beats all the other overpriced iPhone comletitors
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broly10000 said:
What about the Asus Zenfone 3? So far that's the best hardware I've seen for the lowest price. The software is the only thing I don't like about them so much but so far it beats all the other overpriced iPhone comletitors
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But no LineageOS or CM, like the OP asked

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But no LineageOS or CM, like the OP asked
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I'm no developer and don't plan to be, but, how does a phone enters development support for CM and now LeanegeOS?
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broly10000 said:
I'm no developer and don't plan to be, but, how does a phone enters development support for CM and now LeanegeOS?
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If a dev like this phone or using this phone now, he'll build it

Change your mi5s plus for mi5

Xiaomi...cheap and great
I am using redmi 2 for over a year now. Couldn't be happier with it

I already got the Mi5 and it was a beast with MIUI but the Mi5 get real firmware support. In 60 days we get 5 (stable) updates and anything works perfect but 5 inch is to small
Its a pain to unlock bootloader but it works...
When I look at the OnePlus 3T: Unlock bootloader in one min., TWRP already official, Kernel source released, based on Android 7.1 official and ROMs like LineageOS already works perfect, without official build.
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I use a note 3 Samsung with lineageOs and it works great! I wouldn't change it (ir, micro sd, battery that you can change, etc.)
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The best is redmi note 3 of course ,what else can it be !
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Zuk z1 , yureka , and one plus can be preffered as these phone officially ran on cm os ....
ALSO IN zuk z1 rooting and bootloader unlocking is covered under warranty
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I think Wileyfox will be a good choice in the near futur. Bootloader unlocking is the easiest I've ever done. They made good price, good quality product, official Cyanogenmod support (but it's over now). They don't make overpriced product like OnePlus or ****ty one like Xiaomi (7 days just to have a code to unlock the bootloader) and Xiaomi have brand new smartphone variant every week. Redmi note, redmi note prime, redmi Pro, redmi note pro.... Hard to follow.
I've bought a wileyfox Swift 2 at 189€ - 30€ = 159€ on the official website after broke my OnePlus 1 screen. I find it's better than my OP1 except for the photography and for the rom support.
I've got before a moto g (peregrine + falcon) ZTE open C, Fx0, oneplus 1, Redmi note 4 sold 2 weeks after receive it. And wileyfox is one one the best quality/price I've ever had just after the Fx0.

not the "best" only "best fit"

Hi,
why not the ZTE Axon 7 (snapdragon 820, >=4Gb RAM; back fingerprint, usb-c + QC, Amoled; good photograph) ?
david

I have now a Xiaomi MI4 but for sure a Zaxon 7 is a good choice

Xiaomi MI5S plus user here. LineAgeOS is working for my phone (unnoficial), but is great!
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I sell my mi5s plus, got the mi5s but main phone is the OnePlus 3T and it looks like I will never switch from OnePlus, because easy bootloader unlock and support for custom roms.

Best phone running Official Lineage 14.1 under 300€

Hi
I'm a CM/Lineage user since 2012, I'm currently using a M8 with LOS14.1 but I need a new phone and having a Lineage Official Rom is a must for me. It obviously needs to be better than the one I have right now (specially the camera and battery) and the rom bug free.
I've been looking into the left bar on the downloads page trying to figure out the best phones running LOS officially but it's not easy, there are too many phones and opening the threads to figure out if the rom is stable or not, then searching for specs and prices takes a lot of time, if someone could help me I would really appreciate it.

Moto z, x pure, x play, g4, in that order!
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Thanks. X pure (or style in my area) wasn't in my list but I will definitely check it out. Better camera, best SOC, screen, bigger battery, I can keep the front facing speakers and save a few bucks.
The Z is not an option, it's over my budget and I'm not a fan of the design.

How about Xiaomi Mi5

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How about Xiaomi Mi5
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The Mi5 was my first option, I ordered one two day ago but I had to cancel the order when I noticed the lack of LTE band20, it is completely useless in my area.

real advantages and practical uses if I open bootloader for a brand new mi mix 2

Hello,
Next Monday I'll receive my new mi mix 2 (I'm very happy and impatient), but I don't know if I will opt to open its bootloader to root and install roms, etc...
I had a xperia arc s before and played with lots of custom roms before, then changed to iphone 4s (good one but I definitely don't like apple stuff - too much protected and closed, with those headaches if you want to keep your phone jailbreaked, because of the signing restriction for the firmwares), and now I'm back to android with this model.
I know I'll loose the guarantee if I ask xaomi permission to unlock it, so the questions are:
- Such a powered device really needs to be rooted to really enjoy it ? I rooted arc s for obvious reasons about lack of internal storage and support for newer android versions, but... this mi mix 2 beast ?! really needs it ?
- Come on, give us some real and concrete examples where xxx custom rom for xiaomi mi mix 2 gives all people a real significant advantage, not just for playing around. I know this is full of fun that stuff about re-re-re-flashing and test stuff, but... speaking in particular about concrete final features, can you give me some justified examples ?
- I know I'm being too severe, especially having played before lots of hours with the arc s, but maybe I'm changing my way, because I'm searching for real advantages.
- Magisk or permanent Root ? is magisk supported for mi mix 2 ? if I use banking apps, I suppose that magisk is better. Right ?
- If those advantages were real, would you wait a few months or even years 'till guarantee ends (keep in mind I have years ofexperience playing with arc s's android roms), or start having fun ? I don't mind if I temporary brick the phone, because I'd find my way to reflash it as always.
Thanks in advance !

> easily switch to global rom
> switch to debloated miui stock rom (xiaomi.eu or epic for example)
> test some aosp on it (lineage, RR) which runs well
> magisk is supported (tested successfully on lineage and epic rom, both pokemon go works)
if you bouth a mix 2 with global rom, it may be less useful.

I just readed a few minutes ago an article about chinese budget phones. They came to speak about Xiaomi and Oneplus. Only 1% of buyer of both trademark send their phone back for warranty. This of course cares about device reliability.
The real question is : if you're not from china and didn't buy it from Xiaomi Spain (EU)… will you really use warranty for something that will probably won't be covered ? Better insure it by your insurance company.
I bought mine when Lineage was out because my condition is that my phone has to be as close as AOSP as possible and Xiaomi is known for quality. Playing with roms is up to you depending if you can stand with MIUI or not.
Finally, I think your post is in the wrong section. This is more general questions than Rom development.
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Best phone to upgrade to from Mi5/MI5S?

I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?

I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.

Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.

Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.

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Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!

On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.

patoberli said:
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).

To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

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It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

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Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

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Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

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I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.