Looking at the mi4, it has more software support/updates than the mi4s, do you think this time around it will be the same?
it depends on xiaomi if they will release the sources faster.
The Mi4S is a completely different device than the Mi4S, meaning, the device tree has very little in common.
In fact, the Mi4 is more related to - and share the same release as - the Mi3, which helped both to grow, with the Mi3 having the Snapdragon 800 and the Mi4 the Snapdragon 801.
The Mi4S has the Snapdragon 808, which is a very different SoC, namely the 64-bits and big.LITTLE architecture.
The differences between the Mi5 and the Mi5S are not that big, so a comparison between the addition of the 'S' on the Mi4 and Mi5 is not possible.
But their codenames are different, and the Mi3 shared the same as the Mi4.
Codenames:
Mi3 and Mi4 - Cancro
Mi4S - Aqua
Mi5 - Gemini
Mi5S - Capricorn
The development is linked to two things: release of source-code and popularity (which is linked to sales).
So, it will all depend on the sales of these phones.
India has an important role in this, as the more devices are sold, the more development there will be.
As an example I give you Xiaomi Redmi 1S, which has "everything" on XDA
With the latest MIUI 9, even Xiaomi mi4, mi4i, mi4c are getting it.
So i would say the mi5s will at least get next 3 MIUI's, till miui 12, you getting my point
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Top Version
new model with better built-in hardware and of course better performance.
Snapdragon 650 (2x ARM® Cortex™ A72, 4x ARM Cortex A53)
16 MP camera
and from what I see all other is the same
more info
What do you think ?
Just in time! I was thinking of getting the previous one, but the increase in price is very small....
I found it in xiaomidevice.com. I don't know if you're interested.
When will be the Xiaomi Redmi Note3 Premium version on sale?
I dont know but the price should be around $200 for Redmi Note 3 Top Version.
and new Snapdragon should be also better
Hi guys,
I have spent quite a lot of time making a video comparison review between the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 and the Letv Le 1s and I wanted to share it with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4CJX6S9_IE
Your comments are appreciated!
Thank you!
Not cool, just bought the Note 3 Prime =(
too often we see new models... and because of that some people buys "old" model like you hugoprh.... not cool really...
I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?
I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.
Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.
Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).
I'm thinking about upgrading to a Redmi 5; the smaller variant with a 5.7" display and Snapdragon 450 SoC.
The problem?
While The Redmi 5 Plus (Snapdragon 625) has a TON of ROMs and GSIs; not to mention the recent Pixel GSI based on latest Android Pie which got me drooling; and other guides and how to do's; The Redmi 5 'Vanilla' doesn't have all that support.
For the past few days; I'm trying to locate a Treble Enabled AOSP ROM; preferably running Android Pie but each and every query take me to Redmi Note 5, Redmi 5 Plus or Redmi 5 Pro's article. Have yet to see one for the smaller sibling...
That's just unacceptable! I think Redmi 5 Vanilla is a better phone for daily usage thanks to its smaller dimensions, right?
Now; I've no choice but to buy the bigger variant.
"unacceptable"
Well the Plus variant sold more units, therefore more people are interested in ROMs for it, more chances for devs for the device. Just because you like it more doesn't mean it's better, as for the size, as you can see, people tend to like bigger phones nowadays.
Moreover, the price difference between the two doesn't give the Redmi 5 a chance against the Plus variant, at least in my region.
Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?
Yeah I'd like to know it too.
OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?
I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
The phone is very, very good
The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.
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The phone is very, very good，Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco
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Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.
It's early days, as the Redmi K30 4G only launched in China a few days ago, but it seems to be the "Qualcomm Snapdragon equivalent" of the MediaTek Redmi Note 8 Pro in terms of specifications, and it seems as though they will be similarly priced; although this will vary between regions, and I am assuming the Redmi K30 4G will be launched globally, which I can't find confirmation on yet.
Given how hard the XDA developers are working to try and modify the Redmi Note 8 Pro (GCam / Rooting / TWRP / Overcoming the hard-bricks that require an authorised service account), I'm concerned that when the Redmi K30 4G launches, it will overshadow the Redmi Note 8 Pro's development, because it will be easier to develop for the Redmi K30 4G.
May I have some of your opinions please? I realise I'm trying to predict the future a bit, but my argument above seems like a reasonable assumption.
It seems to me, that if the Redmi K30 4G gets launched globally (with the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 730G chipset), the two phones would directly compete, and would steal sales from each other? Unless I'm missing something, and there will be separate audiences for each phone, that would keep Redmi Note 8 Pro's development alive and strong?
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It's early days, as the Redmi K30 4G only launched in China a few days ago, but it seems to be the "Qualcomm Snapdragon equivalent" of the MediaTek Redmi Note 8 Pro in terms of specifications, and it seems as though they will be similarly priced; although this will vary between regions, and I am assuming the Redmi K30 4G will be launched globally, which I can't find confirmation on yet.
Given how hard the XDA developers are working to try and modify the Redmi Note 8 Pro (GCam / Rooting / TWRP / Overcoming the hard-bricks that require an authorised service account), I'm concerned that when the Redmi K30 4G launches, it will overshadow the Redmi Note 8 Pro's development, because it will be easier to develop for the Redmi K30 4G.
May I have some of your opinions please? I realise I'm trying to predict the future a bit, but my argument above seems like a reasonable assumption.
It seems to me, that if the Redmi K30 4G gets launched globally (with the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 730G chipset), the two phones would directly compete, and would steal sales from each other? Unless I'm missing something, and there will be separate audiences for each phone, that would keep Redmi Note 8 Pro's development alive and strong?
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While i don't see how endeavours that already has taken place to jumpstart development on this device will stop in favour of a better device, if the K30 4G is priced just right, i see a lot of people comparing the Note 8 Pro to the K30 before deciding. This phone is nothing but convincing in every way other than potential development so most people WILL select the Note 8 Pro but for the ROM junkies like me, the K30 will be the better purchase. This will at the end of the day mean less people using the device. Less users = less testers. Less testers = less new development. Simple as that.
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While i don't see how endeavours that already has taken place to jumpstart development on this device will stop in favour of a better device, if the K30 4G is priced just right, i see a lot of people comparing the Note 8 Pro to the K30 before deciding. This phone is nothing but convincing in every way other than potential development so most people WILL select the Note 8 Pro but for the ROM junkies like me, the K30 will be the better purchase. This will at the end of the day mean less people using the device. Less users = less testers. Less testers = less new development. Simple as that.
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Thank you very much for your opinion and feedback on this topic Helhound0.