Oh look, another thread that I have to make, as you can see, I am really enjoying this phone right now. Anyways here is the thing: Download any multitouch testing app(I used Yet Another Multitouch Test). Put your phone on a flat surface. Try to use more than 2 fingers without issues. In my case, trying this will make it not detect atleast one finger properly. Now press and hold the aluminium frame of your phone. Multitouch is now fine. While I'm holding a phone in my hand, multitouch also works fine, so this is only an issue when i put the phone on a desk or bed. Could it be that digitizer isn't connected properly? Or could it be something else? Do you also have such issues with this phone? What could be done to fix this?
Update: after more testing i have come to the conclusion that the reason for such issues is aluminium frame of the phone. Weird, I would like to know if this can be fixed in any way tho
Definitely a hardware issue/fault. The best thing to do for now is to send/bring the phone to Sony for repairs. If you hadn't unlocked your bootloader and your phone is within its warranty period then it should be covered by warranty but if not, just be prepared to spend, hopefully its just the frame and the digitizer not being aligned and not the actual screen itself with the problem
Godspeed
Alright, but have you tried this out? Because I've seen a lot of Z1/Z1 compact threads that describe similar issue, I wonder if all devices are faulty like that or just some?
I managed to get to 5 fingers. Couldn't fit more since the screen doesn't detect if fingers are to close to each other so I had to keep them a bit spread out.
Yea but, it's not about just recognizing fingers, can you try drawing 3 straight lines with 3 fingers when not holding a phone? This is where the issues usually start, trying to swipe while not holding aluminium frame of a phone
I've just tried it with a multi touch tester app and it's absolutely as you've described. Additionally I've had some issues with phantom touches lately so maybe it's somehow related to this.
please do let me know if you somehow find out the cause of this or find any 'solutions'
Will do. I've heard people have had their screens replaced for this and issue still persisted, so I wonder if it depends on screen manafacturer. You see, Z1/Z1 compact models are shipped with either JDI screen or AUO screen. I have JDI. Of course, we will need some people here with AUO screen to do the testing.
mine is AUO
Then i don't know
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After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
Mine went back I had it one day, They called me when they received it and then acitoned a refund. The Touch Pro 2 is a terrible built device for something that cost's half a grand.
I have gone back to the Touch HD but really miss the keyboard oh well at least my device isn't going to fall apart. My partners device was perfect and now after a month of use it is now wobblying when you touch the screen and slider is so loose.
sorry you need to mail the webshop and wait for your reply sometimes they reply quick other days they take a while to reply. It will get worse get it replaced or refunded is my advice.
had two deviced now and sent both back. i cross my fingers the third onw will be without any isues. think MANY bad manufactured devices are out there
on my 4th so far and not 100% happy, wobble in the screen when tilted. Very bad design from HTC, poor build quality.
wobble in the screen would not be such a big problem for me i never tilit the screen. hope ill get a device with no other problems next time.
i cant understand why they built this useless tilt feature into the slider the slider could be much more "robust" without this tilit mechanism.
Say it ain't so....
How common are these screen issues that you guys are mentioning, the wobble and such? These issues that you folks are bringing up are starting to worry me, and what worries me even more is that some of you went through 3 or 4 of the TP2s already, leading me to believe that these problems are more widespread than I'd like. I've been anticipating this phone's arrival since February and I really hope that these issues aren't so common that it turns the TP2 into a total let-down instead of the great device that all this hype is leading me to believe. If at all possible could you guys please post updates on your situations?
thanks, and I hope all works out well for you guys.
What do you mean by a wobble? Is the screen itself deformed or are the letters/pictures deformed on the display?
Maybe you can post a picture or something?
I hardly ever use the Tilt feature. When I first heard about it I thought it was brilliant, still looks cool, but it isn't comfortable to work with ...
the wobble issue is discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
some people are worried about the screen wobbles a little bit when its tilt like in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A5v-DR1A8
i think this is ok if it is not too much.
BUT i had two devices with a problem similar to this video and thats absolute not ok for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
the screen wobble isnt such a big problem for me, it makes it easier to slide out flat.
my problem is with the flex on the touchscreen. it feels like you push down on one plastic layer which then hits the lcd behind, making it less sensitive in the centre than the edges where i dont have this problem.
i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
or do you mean something else?
Hi lhwparis
real glad you posted those videos of the wobble. I was beginning to think it was something quite serious, but i see that kind of bounce in most tiltable systems. So not so worried now.
Has anyone done a poll yet of how many people have a phone that does this? strange that its not the same with everyones.
what do you mean with "bounce"? video 1 or the beginning of video 2.
i think the wobble when screen is tilt is normal on most phones (only some without wobble) and thats not a great problem. the second video with the gap between the display and the phone in closed position is a realy great problem for me.
yes i did watch both, i guess im refrerring to the wobble, whilst its open.
perhaps the bounce whilst its closed is not so normal, although again im not sure how much of gap would be a source of concern.
I've got to be honest here. I am one of the fussiest people in the world when it comes to gadgets, but I think there is a lot of over-reaction about the "wobble" issue. The mechanism which allows the screen to tilt will have some "play" in it - otherwise you'd never be able to slide the keyboard out. The same "play" is what means that there is a gap between keyboard and screen - and this will be larger on the side nearest the power button, and it will give a little when you push on this side of the device, as the two halves are held together by the hinge at the opposite edge. It's unavoidable - even if your device doesn't do this from new, I can pretty much guarantee that it will do so within a few weeks. If the hinge is actually loose - so the screen doesn't stay put where you leave it, or if the slider mechanism works without you wanting it to, then you have a problem - but small gaps and small amounts of play in the mechanism are not only normal; they are what prevents damage from operating the mechanism.
"Give" near the centre of a large touchscreen is also pretty common - it's difficult to get the touchscreen to lay perfectly flat, as it is only secured at the edges. Again, there will be a degree of variation between samples, but this is another thing that will change with time. It also quite often varies with air pressure - if you take any touchscreen device (other than the iPhone, which uses a different principle) up in an aircraft, the touchscreen will frequently bulge out more from the screen due to the reduced ambient pressure and the small amount of air trapped under the touchscreen.
I really think that some of you are getting a little too over-stressed about this - 99% of these devices are fine. Leaving aside anything else, these will all have been tested in the factory, and mechanical function of the screen hinges and touchscreen will have been tested on every device before it was packed.
still, its disturbing to hear how many people are getting differences in their build quality. perhaps this is why tmobile uk are not going to be launching the device?
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i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
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The flexibility in the hinge is nothing to do with the resistiveness of the screen. Regardless of the screen, there should not be this amount of flex in the hinge.
what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket
no you are right, but the gap has got bigger in the middle since when i first got it, and comparing it to my friends HD the gap is far greater. There is barely any travel when it comes to the edges, and I see no difference of why this couldnt be the same for the centre.
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what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket.
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i said that wobble is normal in all posts before but i sent back my two devices because of the issue shown in this video (at the beginning):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
so you want to tell me its normal that i can lift of the screen more than 5mm in closed position?
my friend has a TP2 too and he cant lift of the screen from device and there is nearly no gap!
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After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
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Good luck..
The screen went really weird on mine, colours all messed up so on. Emailed mpd, which of course they didn't answer in a timely fashion so I phoned them to which they refused to help me over the phone and told me to email.
Half a day later I get a reply refusing to take it back as I've had it for over seven days and to send it to Regeneris or whoever they're called so I did that. The idiots at MPD failed to realise Regeneris wont' repair these phones, and then forward it on to HTC .. which of course it bizarrely taken them three days to do so.
Apparently now HTC have had it a week, and I've been bugged Regeneris every day, and the answer is the same .. "We've not heard anything, but I'll email them again" Either they've not emailed them as promised or HTCs customer service is evern worse than MPDs.
I've now been without my TP2 for over two weeks, with no sign of getting back and needless to say I'm pissed off!
hi ya guys,
i was wondering how do i fix my touch that doesn't seem to working.
Story on how it happened:
i was at Vicroads in melbourne waiting for my friend to have his turn at the counter for his business. I was visiting engadget.com on opera it was all working find i even showed me friend on an article and touch worked fine. After i find it running a bit slow i did a reset(by using the stylist to press the rest button on it.) After that restart the touch screen stop working.
Any suggestion on how to fix it?
Thanks,
Quan
do you have a hard case around the phone? I've read before that sometimes the hard case around it will put pressure on the screen thus already registering a "touch" on the device... thus meaning no other touch will register since its not a multi touch device. Although if you pressed your stylus into the reset button odds are if you had a hard case on there you would have had to take it off and it wouldn't have made sense for you to put it back on before you saw it was working again SOOOoooooo I'll guess that isn't an issue.
ALSO I read somewhere in here, not too long ago... 2 weeks maybe.... that some people had gunk (for lack of a better word) built up around the edge of the screen. With the gunk, dirt whatever built up around the edge it was doing the same thing as the cases where it was causing the screen to already register a screen.
I believe they used their finger nail to run it along the edge and get the stuff out... one person used some sort of knife (I shutter at the idea of taking a knife anywhere near my screen haha) and cleaned it out
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Just a thought... if that isn't the issue then I'm sure someone else will chime in soon.
Could very well just be a hardware glitch, all be it a very random one
For the last day or so the touchscreen on my Tilt 2 will not respond. I thought Sense was hanging due to text messages so I deleted all of them this morning. That didn't help and neither did multiple reboots so I finally did a hard reset. Now I am really hosed since I can't get through the initial setup. Sounds like the digitizer may have bit it?
I am not at home to flash an official ROM right now but I will try that tomorrow. Other than that does anyone have any other ideas? I am paying for the warranty and insurance so I think I can get it swapped if I have to. Are they still sending out Rhodiums or do they have another device to send in its place now?
Okay, I just flashed the latest official ROM downloaded from HTC. Screen still isn't working. :-( Guess it's time to contact Asurion.
my tilt2 is also doing this, it stopped working about a week or two ago, then started working a few hours later. lately it will work sporadically and most the time not how it is supposed to. i have simplicity. i also have the insurance and i think mine is still under warranty, will i need to put the original sense back on it b4 i send it back in? also, on another note, sometimes when i plug it in to charge it the orange light doesn't come on indicating it is charging, i have to hold the power button for a few seconds. it started around the same time, are these issues related.
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Ok, so I have learned that these screens are pretty sensitive, especially if you put them in your pocket. You can sometimes revive this by sliding your fingernail into the seam along the outer edges of the screen and running it along the seam as if you were trying to peel the front (digitizer) off of the LCD. It somehow releases the stuck screen or something. Mine has been doing this off and on for a while and I've been able to revive it several times with this method, though it's getting too frequent now and I'm thinking of trying to replace the digitizer all together. I'm afraid to make that leap though.
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Ok, so I have learned that these screens are pretty sensitive, especially if you put them in your pocket. You can sometimes revive this by sliding your fingernail into the seam along the outer edges of the screen and running it along the seam as if you were trying to peel the front (digitizer) off of the LCD. It somehow releases the stuck screen or something. Mine has been doing this off and on for a while and I've been able to revive it several times with this method, though it's getting too frequent now and I'm thinking of trying to replace the digitizer all together. I'm afraid to make that leap though.
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The reason this "fixes" it is there some dust or dirt between the screen & panel. If enough gets in there, the digitizer gets confused and ignores any presses.
If you completely disassemble the screen and thoroughly clean it, I bet it'll be fine - no need to replace anything. However, this is a very tedious and delicate process, so be extremely careful.
it started out a few days ago. I started to feel like my touchscreen is not as responsive as usual.
I noticed numerous times it felt like my swipes as well as my touch (say when i want to open a specific app) are not being registered properly. Now the way i recall my samsung galaxy s, it would register a click sometimes even when you're hovering about 0.5mm to 1mm above it. So with that in mind, i thought i would try to do that with my one x. I would hover my hand slightly above it, and no response - NOTE: THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM JUST YET.
Anyways, seeing as hovering over it doesn't work (which is not a problem imo) i would proceed to touching the screen, however i touch it without applying any pressure, i could even swipe and it WOULD NOT switch over to the next screen. I could touch the screen and the application would NOT register my fingers. However, after applying more pressure it suddenly gets registered. Even though the pressure i have to apply is just slight, Isn't this how a resistive touchscreen is supposed to behave and not a captivate touchscreen?
I thought that's because of my screen protector, i took it off and gave it 2~3 days and the issue remained.
Now my question(maybe even a favor) to you guys is as follows.
1. Try to click on an app, however, do this without applying any pressure, simply touching your touchscreen (might have to do this slowly). Does it respond? Or is it the same with with you as it is with me?
2. Please report in on the behavior of your touchscreen.
NOTE: I just want to know if my touchscreen is behaving normally or not. I do recall a better experience, actually if anything i was very happy with my one x's screen and this is simply annoying. Espeically when i have it on a soft surface and i push my screen, normally a soft surface tends to bulge in upon pressure.
It could take three touches for that freaking thing to register it if my phone is lying on a pullover or whatever else that's soft. Lately i'm not really happy with how webpages scroll up or down either, feels as if my swipes are lightly registered thus a sluggish movement upward or downward.. I hope this is not yet another issue that i have to deal with because my unit already had a wifi defect and, despite being happy with this device it might be my last. It's just too troublesome. Unless my stupid provider replaces it but i could keep dreaming.
shadehh said:
... Now the way i recall my samsung galaxy s, it would register a click sometimes even when you're hovering about 0.5mm to 1mm above it.
1. Try to click on an app, however, do this without applying any pressure, simply touching your touchscreen (might have to do this slowly). Does it respond? Or is it the same with with you as it is with me?
2. Please report in on the behavior of your touchscreen.
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0,5 - 1mm ? do you even realize how big this distance is? No way the SGS would register that... or react on that. (I come from that phone too)
with that in mind, my One X is much more responsive as the SGS or any other phone I had.
And no, I do not need to press. As the slightest pressure gives my screen ripples. not possible.
Either try another kernel if you have some custom one, I know there was some problems with those sometimes. Or factory reset if you are stock and then return it?
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0,5 - 1mm ? do you even realize how big this distance is? No way the SGS would register that... or react on that. (I come from that phone too)
with that in mind, my One X is much more responsive as the SGS or any other phone I had.
And no, I do not need to press. As the slightest pressure gives my screen ripples. not possible.
Either try another kernel if you have some custom one, I know there was some problems with those sometimes. Or factory reset if you are stock and then return it?
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Well maybe i exaggerated the hovering part but within a certain (very small distance, probably 0,2 maybe even 0,1 the screen would react).
I've been from viper, to jelly bean roms, to ARHD and Maximus. Same thing.
edit: actually, 0,5 mm is hardly anything if you look at how big a mm is and put and reduce the distance by 50%, anyway that's not the discussion http://www.meb.uni-bonn.de/Cancernet/Media/CDR0000578121.jpg
Hover taps/clicks happen, I'm sure I haven't touched the screen a couple of times but it responded to what I wanted to do. Anyways, try this app called touchscreen test to confirm your issue.
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Hover taps/clicks happen, I'm sure I haven't touched the screen a couple of times but it responded to what I wanted to do. Anyways, try this app called touchscreen test to confirm your issue.
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So you are implying that hovering touch seems to work on your Hox?
Hovering also works with my HOX. And I don't have to use any pressure, hardly even touch the screen.
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Same here. Hardly touching screen and still responds. I'm running stock 1.29.
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..mhm well how should I go on about this? I mean the people at the shop are not the brightest.. I gotta send it in though. It is annoying
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Tell them the digitizer is faulty and needs to be changed.
Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
wi11ow said:
Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
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Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
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Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
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I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
wi11ow said:
I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
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Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
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I don't know about the mechanics of the touchscreen, so all of this is helping me
I took a look at that tool, and I posted the result of drawing on imgur: paste "oyIt3bg" after imgur.com (I'm apparently still too 'new' to post links, sorry about that). It is clearly one band, very consistent. I think I should probably talk to the shop I got it from and ask for a replacement. Which sucks, because this particular parts took 3 weeks to even get here. Anyhow, glad I know what the problem is now. Again, thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
Hello fellow dutchie,
I have experienced this problem on my Nexus 4, and after having replaced the LCD+digitizer I also had issues with touch responsiveness in exactly the same areas. As silly as it would sound beforehand, it doesn't seem to be the screen or digitizer. Best... to give up.