[Q] screen stopped responding - bad digitizer? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

For the last day or so the touchscreen on my Tilt 2 will not respond. I thought Sense was hanging due to text messages so I deleted all of them this morning. That didn't help and neither did multiple reboots so I finally did a hard reset. Now I am really hosed since I can't get through the initial setup. Sounds like the digitizer may have bit it?
I am not at home to flash an official ROM right now but I will try that tomorrow. Other than that does anyone have any other ideas? I am paying for the warranty and insurance so I think I can get it swapped if I have to. Are they still sending out Rhodiums or do they have another device to send in its place now?

Okay, I just flashed the latest official ROM downloaded from HTC. Screen still isn't working. :-( Guess it's time to contact Asurion.

my tilt2 is also doing this, it stopped working about a week or two ago, then started working a few hours later. lately it will work sporadically and most the time not how it is supposed to. i have simplicity. i also have the insurance and i think mine is still under warranty, will i need to put the original sense back on it b4 i send it back in? also, on another note, sometimes when i plug it in to charge it the orange light doesn't come on indicating it is charging, i have to hold the power button for a few seconds. it started around the same time, are these issues related.

Possible fix
Ok, so I have learned that these screens are pretty sensitive, especially if you put them in your pocket. You can sometimes revive this by sliding your fingernail into the seam along the outer edges of the screen and running it along the seam as if you were trying to peel the front (digitizer) off of the LCD. It somehow releases the stuck screen or something. Mine has been doing this off and on for a while and I've been able to revive it several times with this method, though it's getting too frequent now and I'm thinking of trying to replace the digitizer all together. I'm afraid to make that leap though.

SgtMac02 said:
Ok, so I have learned that these screens are pretty sensitive, especially if you put them in your pocket. You can sometimes revive this by sliding your fingernail into the seam along the outer edges of the screen and running it along the seam as if you were trying to peel the front (digitizer) off of the LCD. It somehow releases the stuck screen or something. Mine has been doing this off and on for a while and I've been able to revive it several times with this method, though it's getting too frequent now and I'm thinking of trying to replace the digitizer all together. I'm afraid to make that leap though.
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The reason this "fixes" it is there some dust or dirt between the screen & panel. If enough gets in there, the digitizer gets confused and ignores any presses.
If you completely disassemble the screen and thoroughly clean it, I bet it'll be fine - no need to replace anything. However, this is a very tedious and delicate process, so be extremely careful.

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Touch screen not working on HTC TP2

So the touchscreen no longer works on my phone. So that pretty much means i can't unlock my phone, which means i can't shut it down, which means it's useless.
During startup, i got the very generic services.exe error, which leads me to believe that since there was an error with the exe, the service used to poll the touchscreen isn't running.
So before you ask:
- I have power cycled the phone several times (still same result of nothing
working)
- Windows Mobile upgraded to Verizon's release of WM 6.5
- I have not installed any new software in over a month
- It has never gotten water on it
- I have hacked the registry, about 6 months ago when i got the phone
- I did mess up one of the registry keys, replaced the key name with a
't' and couldn't remember what it originally was, but the phone hasn't
acted up. Can't remember what the location of key is either, but i
was trying to remove the vibration whenever you touched the
screen. There are two locations for it, and i eventually found the
proper one though.
So if anyone has any ideas short of hard-resetting the phone, please let me know. Is there any sw that can run my phone via the computer?
Thanks
Touch screen not working
I have to got the same issue, ever tryed hard rest.
flashed new rom. still nothing...
Solution
Okay, I've just had this problem with an HTC Touch, and I think this works with any HTC that has a "digitizer" rather than an all-in-one touchscreen (I think newer phones have digitisers).
I'm not sure if this will always work, but I've just done it - sometimes the inactive touch screen is "broken" because the layers are stuck together (so the phone can't tell where the touch is, hence unresponsive). With mine, I looked at the screen side on and could see a kind of "oily" patch in the light.
The solution is to get masking/gaffa tape - the very sticky brown one. Stick it down on the screen/digitizer and then keep pulling it off - this pulls the layers from each other. I kept repeating this lots before it worked - and in the end I pulled the top layer completely off (I think you should pull from the top of the phone, as the layers need to be attached at the bottom of the screen/digitizer). Once it pulled away, I gently lay it back down (after panicking!!) and hey presto it started working again.
Good luck!
I have the same problem, oily stuff migrating from a corner inward....
And you're suggesting we do what now? I'm not following this.....
He suggests you put masking tape onto your screen, to pull the stuck layers apart. If this doesn't work, you can always replace the digitizer.
salterlee said:
Okay, I've just had this problem with an HTC Touch, and I think this works with any HTC that has a "digitizer" rather than an all-in-one touchscreen (I think newer phones have digitisers).
I'm not sure if this will always work, but I've just done it - sometimes the inactive touch screen is "broken" because the layers are stuck together (so the phone can't tell where the touch is, hence unresponsive). With mine, I looked at the screen side on and could see a kind of "oily" patch in the light.
The solution is to get masking/gaffa tape - the very sticky brown one. Stick it down on the screen/digitizer and then keep pulling it off - this pulls the layers from each other. I kept repeating this lots before it worked - and in the end I pulled the top layer completely off (I think you should pull from the top of the phone, as the layers need to be attached at the bottom of the screen/digitizer). Once it pulled away, I gently lay it back down (after panicking!!) and hey presto it started working again.
Good luck!
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OH...
MY...
F&%$ING...
GOD...
you are a goddamn genius, had to log on just to say THANK YOU, wow. i was about to buy a new phone.
CaptainFantastic said:
OH...
MY...
F&%$ING...
GOD...
you are a goddamn genius, had to log on just to say THANK YOU, wow. i was about to buy a new phone.
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I've done the same, just to thank you.
had this problem this se xperia x2
Unbelievable...this just worked for me too! I gave up on this phone 6 months ago...now back to flashing ROMS, yeah!
Thanks a lot!
It is now!
Thank You! And I didn't even have the proper tape, just some cheap sellotape...did the trick though!
Thanks again, You Rock Dude!
Very Much Appreciated!
(And a Big Thanks to Andrew for the heads up!)
If I had read this 3 weeks ago i wouldn't have wasted 35$ on a new screen.
It gets worse, the new screen doesn't work. But this 1cent fix DOES.
The new screen was never calibrate-able.
salterlee said:
Okay, I've just had this problem with an HTC Touch, and I think this works with any HTC that has a "digitizer" rather than an all-in-one touchscreen (I think newer phones have digitisers).
I'm not sure if this will always work, but I've just done it - sometimes the inactive touch screen is "broken" because the layers are stuck together (so the phone can't tell where the touch is, hence unresponsive). With mine, I looked at the screen side on and could see a kind of "oily" patch in the light.
The solution is to get masking/gaffa tape - the very sticky brown one. Stick it down on the screen/digitizer and then keep pulling it off - this pulls the layers from each other. I kept repeating this lots before it worked - and in the end I pulled the top layer completely off (I think you should pull from the top of the phone, as the layers need to be attached at the bottom of the screen/digitizer). Once it pulled away, I gently lay it back down (after panicking!!) and hey presto it started working again.
Good luck!
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I have exactly the same problem! The touchscreen of my xperia mini is not responding at all!
Can you please be more precise? What do you mean "pull off the layer of the screen?" Do I need to disassemble the phone and mess with the hardware? That sounds pretty scary!!!
kostass123 said:
I have exactly the same problem! The touchscreen of my xperia mini is not responding at all!
Can you please be more precise? What do you mean "pull off the layer of the screen?" Do I need to disassemble the phone and mess with the hardware? That sounds pretty scary!!!
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I think he had some sort of a screen protector that was interfering with the screen...
You can try to run your fingernail along the edge of the screen - between the bezel and the actual touchscreen. Quite often something stuck in there is causing the touchscreen problem (or there is a deeper hardware issue and the touchscreen is just not functional).
146 theserog
I'm in the same boat. Normally I wouldn't be afraid of a little digitizer replacement. But on the TP2 it looks like every single bolt and screw needs to be replaced and in the only video I could find about it, the guy broke the lcd in the process.
Hoolexer
W0W.... You are awsome,,, Now I can sleep at night. Thank You So Much
salterlee you are a genius. I just had this same problem. I putted some masking tape to the screen, didn't had to pull the front layer out, and it worked wonderfully.
A little suction goes a long way!!
Headroom said:
salterlee you are a genius. I just had this same problem. I putted some masking tape to the screen, didn't had to pull the front layer out, and it worked wonderfully.
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Same thing here.
I used a suction cup from my bathroom mirror that held a razor or something and made sure it was decently moist so once i stuck it to the screen i could slide it up and down the entire surface and worked like a charm..... no tape to throw away.
thanks for the inspiration cause i was gonna make this touch into a throw.

Touch screen has stopped!!!! Help!!!

My phone has been going great and giving no issues. Byt the other evening suddenly the toicuh screen stopped being responsive!!! Totally randomly. No drop or spil or anythign like that, no new software or roms recently.
When you open it the keyboard still lights up, and after a hard reset, you can navigate a bit using the keys. But ZERO response from the screen!!!
As i say, this is even with a hard reset!!! I also tried using masking tip to pressure the screen in case somethign was stuck.
Ok it mighty be the digitiser, or a loose connection. Im hoping not.
Has anyone experienced this or similar and is tehre anythign else i can try before i take the plunge and get someone to look at it??? (its out of warranty unfort)
Ouch
Sorry to hear. It happened to me months back. It started with very uncalibrated clicks... making corner clicking impossible to compensate for.
I've recompensated, but that didn't last long - and it eventually degraded to no touch screen. With insurance, I did get a refurbish for my woes.
I flashed Stock ROM and relocked. No luck.
I'd still back up everything.
Reformat SD card.
Reflash stock ROM
Relock the device - all to see if it helps.
I did have a similar recent problem - but in this case it's because I was using a clip on hard case front that must've been putting pressure on the touch screen.
Hopefully one of these helps you out. Good luck
When my screen stopped responding it was due to a more physical thing.
I read this somewhere and tried it, worked instantly!
You have to get your finger nail under the screen (try pushing your nail into the edge of the screen from the side) and lift the screen up a bit.
This worked for me. If you think its a physical and not software issue give it a shot.
I have had the same problem.
I bought new touch screen on ebay (about $15) and after replacement the device works well.
stop everything !!!!!
if you have Google G Mail set up on your phone remove it and it will fix it's self
somthing google / G mail is doing the tilt 2 doesn't like
causing the "Sleep Of Death"
Hi guys
I have tried all the above
Last resort is i got sprite backyup to work
BUT HOW THE HELL DO YOU HIT "NEXT" OR "OK" FROM THE KEYBOARD AS SCREEN DOESNT WORK????
npahlavan said:
When my screen stopped responding it was due to a more physical thing.
I read this somewhere and tried it, worked instantly!
You have to get your finger nail under the screen (try pushing your nail into the edge of the screen from the side) and lift the screen up a bit.
This worked for me. If you think its a physical and not software issue give it a shot.
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Woohoo! It worked for me too!
Below is one more post on this topic from another forum:
Originally Posted by p38fln View Post
Well, I finally figured out how this is happening - the digitizer is GLUED on to the phone's plastic case. The glue is like rubber cement, not rigid like super glue. Eventually, the glue lets the screen slide into the center of the phone, until the digitizer actually touches the screen - and then, the digitizer stops working.
It's actually very simple to fix - slide a finger nail under the plastic by the speaker and gently pry the digitizer up. Then, put it back. You dont need to remove it totally from the phone. It will flex back to its flat shape as soon as the glue releases. As soon as you stick it back down, the touch screen will work again.

[Q] A bit of help? Hardware problem

If I could kindly ask for some input...
I was helping a buddy sand his car down (old Midget ) for repainting with my phone directly next to my body. Got done and saw a bit of moisture in front of the front-facing camera lens. Touch screen unresponsive. Rebooted a few times, lots of ghost touches and hanging at the bootloader. Boots consistently now, but:
--Zero digitizer input but plenty of ghost touches
--No network access.
Can I maybe get some input on a plan, especially if anyone here has done hardware on these phones? I've replaced the screen on this one but that was months ago. Done a million different hardware issues but specifically wanting to know if there's any chance it's not worth replacing the screen. I feel bad asking for help on this but I really need to make the best decision.
Thanks Guys!
Vlad
Gen info: Slimkat 4.4.4, stock kernel
EDIT: The goddess of time has smiled upon my phone, and my phone smiled back. I waited 6 hours to post this and had the phone apart for at least that long, yet it looks like it hadn't dried out yet.
However....networking. Looks like the next step is flashing back to stock. Input?
been there, but weedeating
vladimirhtg said:
If I could kindly ask for some input...
I was helping a buddy sand his car down (old Midget ) for repainting with my phone directly next to my body. Got done and saw a bit of moisture in front of the front-facing camera lens. Touch screen unresponsive. Rebooted a few times, lots of ghost touches and hanging at the bootloader. Boots consistently now, but:
--Zero digitizer input but plenty of ghost touches
--No network access.
Can I maybe get some input on a plan, especially if anyone here has done hardware on these phones? I've replaced the screen on this one but that was months ago. Done a million different hardware issues but specifically wanting to know if there's any chance it's not worth replacing the screen. I feel bad asking for help on this but I really need to make the best decision.
Thanks Guys!
Vlad
Gen info: Slimkat 4.4.4, stock kernel
EDIT: The goddess of time has smiled upon my phone, and my phone smiled back. I waited 6 hours to post this and had the phone apart for at least that long, yet it looks like it hadn't dried out yet.
However....networking. Looks like the next step is flashing back to stock. Input?
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take it apart, see if there is any discoloration of anything(sweat...salt)
if you see any then be careful to remove it. i use lens cleaning clothes with a smudger
then. take a blow dryer to it
~*be careful*~ of course.(the phone can handle being soldered together so a blow dryer wont hurt it unless carelessly heating up one part.)
....i have never had rice work...
then let it sit for just a bit to air out. clean up contact, usb. gold contacts. headphone opening.
carefully...put it back together.
i suggest watching the youtube tear down of the phone

[Q] Replaced broken screen, thin line on screen unresponsive

Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
wi11ow said:
Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
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Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
graphdarnell said:
Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
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I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
wi11ow said:
I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
graphdarnell said:
Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
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I don't know about the mechanics of the touchscreen, so all of this is helping me
I took a look at that tool, and I posted the result of drawing on imgur: paste "oyIt3bg" after imgur.com (I'm apparently still too 'new' to post links, sorry about that). It is clearly one band, very consistent. I think I should probably talk to the shop I got it from and ask for a replacement. Which sucks, because this particular parts took 3 weeks to even get here. Anyhow, glad I know what the problem is now. Again, thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
Hello fellow dutchie,
I have experienced this problem on my Nexus 4, and after having replaced the LCD+digitizer I also had issues with touch responsiveness in exactly the same areas. As silly as it would sound beforehand, it doesn't seem to be the screen or digitizer. Best... to give up.

Cracked screen

Hello!
Today dropped my phone and screen got covered in spider web. The display itself looks fine, but its covered it spiderweb. The touchscreen doesnt respond at all.
What do i need to do now? I looked at local repair shops, they ask atleast 100 euros. But on ebay i can find lcd display+screen digitizer for 55 euros shipped, or screen digitizer starting from 10 dollars!
Can i buy only screen digitizer (as i understand that top layer of glass thats cracked is screen digitizer?) and replace it? Or changing LCD display along with screen digitizer is a must?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOIR-VITRE-...Pièces_de_rechange_outils&hash=item27f98e5d31
So this should fit..right? And are all 3 models LS970, E975 and e973 really same size? Cuz i`ve read people have got smaller screens than original from some sellers on amazon.
Replacing a digitizer is pretty hard and time consuming, that's why people usually replace the whole lcd+digitizer+glass assembly. You will also need adhesive and a heater/appropriate tools. It can be a great learning experience if you don't mind potentially busting your phone. There are no shortage of instructionnal videos on youtube on the subject.
Also, a new G2 is only 190$US .... Just saying ...
noxlord said:
Replacing a digitizer is pretty hard and time consuming, that's why people usually replace the whole lcd+digitizer+glass assembly. You will also need adhesive and a heater/appropriate tools. It can be a great learning experience if you don't mind potentially busting your phone. There are no shortage of instructionnal videos on youtube on the subject.
Also, a new G2 is only 190$US .... Just saying ...
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As i have two other phones. The g2 mini with Tegra and a razrHD. I'll give a try, thanks for the tip.
Well, i ended up ordering that LCD+Digitzer from ebay. Everything was fine for 2 months, now i have quite large spot that doesnt respond to touches. (See attachment) i already tried disconecting the lcd and digitizer..still same. Is it worth trying to flash another rom? I already flashed stock kdz (had stock before too..)
This happened just today, right after ghost touches went crazy and rondomly oppening everything.
EDIT: That spot is changing sizes..form remains, but it got a bit smaller now. Its truly weird. I put the phone outside for few minutes (its +9C outside) and touchscreen works fine now! What is going on?
EDIT 2: After few minutes of usage, the spot is coming back
WreckLv said:
EDIT: That spot is changing sizes..form remains, but it got a bit smaller now. Its truly weird. I put the phone outside for few minutes (its +9C outside) and touchscreen works fine now! What is going on?
EDIT 2: After few minutes of usage, the spot is coming back
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I had dropped my LG (more than a couple of times) on its face and it seemed to suffer stroke-like symptoms: one side of the screen was completely dead to touch, and the rest of the screen would occasionally act as though I was touching everywhere which opened programs and messed with the keyboard. I was stubborn and just lived with it and over time, it stopped trying open programs and whatnot. Recently, dropped it again, this time it was a bit more serious. Still no visible damage to the screen, but the "dead spot" moved to the centre of the screen, and again, occasionally tries to open programs and add words to my messages.
At first I thought it all could be related to a software issue. Unfortunately, after installing new ROMS, it never fixed the problem. I bought a digitaliser screen from Ebay as well. I'm waiting on the adhesive tape still so I can't say if this will fix anything. I kind of have a suspicion that its a loose connector (the top middle part of the screen gets super hot only after a couple of minutes of being left on).
I'm just wondering if you have tried taking it apart again to recheck the wiring? I think we may have similar problems (your situation is the first I've come by on the internet that is anywhere close to what's happening to my screen). Thanks so much!

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