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Hi, I'm calling all SGS2 or iPhone 4S owners to help me identify whether my device is somehow broken, or it's "normal" for the GSM version of Galaxy Nexus:
In short, voice in-call quality is definitely worse than on SGS2 and iPhone 4S. I tried all those phones with exactly the same SIM card standing at the same place, calling exactly the same number (my voice mail), hearing the same message on all three, so it's not a matter of card/operator/signal.
I noticed, when using the ear speaker, that:
1. At maximum in-call volume, on Galaxy Nexus I hear some occasional creaking noise, like if the volume level was too high for the ear speaker to handle. I don't hear any noise like that on Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone 4S.
2. At maximum in-call volume, GNexus is still the quietest phone out of those three. iPhone 4S is the loudest (and without the creaky noise), Galaxy S2 is second (without creaky noise as well), and Galaxy Nexus is the quietest of them and yet develops some creaky noise at the same time.
3. Some high pitch sounds are unpleasant to hear on Galaxy Nexus, while they are fine (the same word from my voicemail) on both SGS2 and i4S. I'm not sure how to describe it, some words (I know only polish words that cause this at this moment) are really unpleasant to hear on GNexus..
4. I'm not sure if it's because of the creaky noise or not, but the voice from GNexus sounds the most 'robotic' out of those 3 devices. As I already wrote, I was hearing exactly the same messages on all three phones (my voice mail), and while they sounded pretty much identical on SGS2 and iPhone 4S, they sounded a little bit more 'robotic' on GNexus.
Ok, that's all. Don't get me wrong, my GNexus is capable of making/receiving calls. The problem is I'm a little bit hearing impaired and in order to understand people (especially when they don't speak in my native language) I need to turn the volume up a bit, otherwise I can't hear them. And unfortunately my GNexus is _definitely_ the worst phone in regard to call/voice quality out of those 3 phones. Anytime when I talk with someone for longer than "just a minute" when my SIM card is in GNexus, I wish it was in SGS2 or i4S just because I know I could hear someone better then. For short calls it doesn't matter.
So, the question is: does anyone who owns either SGS2 or i4S noticed this as well? I wonder whether there's something wrong with my specific device and I should replace it, or it works "as expected"..
Maybe it's caused by 2G network? I'm very often on 2G network, though with good coverage (4 signal bars)..
I appreciate any help, thanks..
I bought the GNEX because my wife constantly complained that my International SGSII was unbearable. Well there were other reasons also, but voice quality was her biggest gripe.
The GNEX is much better.
My wife has an iPhone 4S BTW (we are both on ATT).
ericshmerick said:
I bought the GNEX because my wife constantly complained that my International SGSII was unbearable. Well there were other reasons also, but voice quality was her biggest gripe.
The GNEX is much better.
My wife has an iPhone 4S BTW (we are both on ATT).
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Interesting. But that's from her side, suggesting that mic on GNex is better than SGS2. I have no idea whether it's true, people can understand me no matter what device I use.
What about your side - did you notice any differences (especially something related to what I described) when it comes to voice quality compared to SGS2?
I get crackling on occasional calls. But it's not consistent and not every call. Hasn't bothered me a ton. Volume is fine.
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I get crackling on occasional calls. But it's not consistent and not every call. Hasn't bothered me a ton. Volume is fine.
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Any chance crackling happens only on 2G networks?
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Any chance crackling happens only on 2G networks?
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Nope. Both 3G and HSPA+. But very infrequently.
I have no issues with the Nexus. People always complained that my voice was muffled with the International SGSII.
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I have no issues with the Nexus. People always complained that my voice was muffled with the International SGSII.
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That's interesting point and I admit I never asked anyone if they hear me better when I use GNEX. I'm a little bit selfish though and more interesting in how I hear other people, than how they hear me, especially since my hearing is quite bad
Perhaps GNEX has better noise detection mic than SGS2?
I am interested in getting a 6" phone and have been reading on the Pixel XL 2 and the Note 8. The XL 2 seems out of the question with all the issues they are having and it seems some of you are having various issues with the Note 8. This is a lot of money to lay out for a phone that has issues. I am on Verizon and need to stay there due to coverage issues in East TN. Any help with my questions would be appreciated.
First and foremost the phone has to get good cell reception. I have a range extender at my home so it is not a big deal there but I also own a houseboat and use my Motorola X Pure to watch Netflix and tether to my laptop (mostly via PDANet) for work. My Motorola shows 3-4 bars most of the time and seems to stream great. However, whenever people have come to my home with Samsung phones (pre having the Network Extender) they could not get a signal or keep one. I could at least carry on a phone conversation without dropping a signal. Have any of you been beside someone with another brand phone in marginal areas and seen how the signals compare? The only 2 brands I have used at home have been Motorola and LG products. LG is not quite as strong but I could keep a signal. I guess I am more concerned about time on my boat where I don't have WiFi available.
Second is I have always had a phone I could root so I could use Titanium Backup. I'm seeing here that you cannot charge your phone past 80% if you root. That really sounds odd and since it has to do with rooting, I would not think Samsung would put that high on their list to fix. I am also reading where you can not use Visual Voice Mail after rooting and even when coming back to stock. I could go back to using Hangouts for my voicemail but VVM is easier.
Third, do you think this phone is worth the cost when there are so many issues. I'm used to a more vanilla based Android experience with the Moto X. I read where many don't like Touch Wiz and some of the Samsung bloat. How do you feel about this.
I'm not in a rush to make a change as I just changed the battery in my Moto X and had a vibration motor put in it. The biggest of my concerns is the cellular reception. This is a must.
Thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
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I am interested in getting a 6" phone and have been reading on the Pixel XL 2 and the Note 8. The XL 2 seems out of the question with all the issues they are having and it seems some of you are having various issues with the Note 8. This is a lot of money to lay out for a phone that has issues. I am on Verizon and need to stay there due to coverage issues in East TN. Any help with my questions would be appreciated.
First and foremost the phone has to get good cell reception. I have a range extender at my home so it is not a big deal there but I also own a houseboat and use my Motorola X Pure to watch Netflix and tether to my laptop (mostly via PDANet) for work. My Motorola shows 3-4 bars most of the time and seems to stream great. However, whenever people have come to my home with Samsung phones (pre having the Network Extender) they could not get a signal or keep one. I could at least carry on a phone conversation without dropping a signal. Have any of you been beside someone with another brand phone in marginal areas and seen how the signals compare? The only 2 brands I have used at home have been Motorola and LG products. LG is not quite as strong but I could keep a signal. I guess I am more concerned about time on my boat where I don't have WiFi available.
Second is I have always had a phone I could root so I could use Titanium Backup. I'm seeing here that you cannot charge your phone past 80% if you root. That really sounds odd and since it has to do with rooting, I would not think Samsung would put that high on their list to fix. I am also reading where you can not use Visual Voice Mail after rooting and even when coming back to stock. I could go back to using Hangouts for my voicemail but VVM is easier.
Third, do you think this phone is worth the cost when there are so many issues. I'm used to a more vanilla based Android experience with the Moto X. I read where many don't like Touch Wiz and some of the Samsung bloat. How do you feel about this.
I'm not in a rush to make a change as I just changed the battery in my Moto X and had a vibration motor put in it. The biggest of my concerns is the cellular reception. This is a must.
Thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
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I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.
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I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.
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I appreciate your feedback.
I've had great cell reception between my Note 5, Note 7, and Note 8. The only time I really remember much of a difference in reception was when I actually got a brand new SIM when I purchased my Note 5 because they actually gave me a newer SIM that supposedly supported more/newer LTE bands in addition to NFC (had been cutting my SIM when getting new phones to keep GFUD). Whether that was hogwash or not, I can't say, but I did get better reception when I switched to my Note 5 from the HTC One M9 and it was faster.
I can't give an unbiased opinion on the V30 since I don't own it, but I have never liked the V series form factor. The Note 5 / 7 / 8 has been a perfect fit for me, and I have not had an issue with the phone so I don't know what you could be referring to regarding many issues. Having a TGSP (or lack thereof) isn't really an issue, and the Whitestone are not perfect (I and a few others have lines forming in the upper right corner of the glue) but are very good.
I do wish I had a root with no drawbacks so I can enable the free hotspot under my grandfathered unlimited plan (I need VoLTE and Wireless calling so I can't use the unlocked firmware) but it's far from a deal breaker.
I was at the Verizon store the other day and had a chance to take a look at the Pixel 2 and PIxel 2 XL. The differences between the Note 8 and Pixel 2 screens are unbelievable. The Pixel 2 screen is washed out and the colors are badly muted. I played with as many settings as I could find, but could not make it much better. Perhaps it was just a problem with the four Pixel 2 devices that they had. Maybe I just didn't find the correct settings for it. Whatever the case, the screens looked terrible on the Pixel 2s that I saw.
After seeing the differences between the screens alone, there is no way that I would ever use a Pixel 2 over my Note 8. The screen on the Note 8 is amazing.
I am now a proud owner of the Note 8. I bought it Saturday. So far I am quite happy. I still need to test it at the boat but it has done well around time. I didn't even waste my time looking at the XL 2. I read too many bad things about it.
Thx for the replies.
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I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.
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Ditto
- R. Kruse Ludington:
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
It wasn't great in the 2XL. Any improvement here?
mwatson said:
It wasn't great in the 2XL. Any improvement here?
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thats gonna depend on your carrier and your area more than it will on your phone
my 3a xl works fine on verizon but i live in a major city so coverage is never an issue for me
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It wasn't great in the 2XL. Any improvement here?
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Coming from the Galaxy line of phones, with the note 9 being my last, I find no issues with reception or calls. No better or worse. I live on a fringe area and I lock on to LTE, although I get barely 1meg download at home. On a good signal area, download speeds of 25 to 50 megs is about what I get. I'm on an att mvno (red pocket), so no hd voice or wifi calling. But standard voice calls are ok.
On T-Mobile, I've actually seen nearly identical or even better download speeds vs my OnePlus 6T, which is surprising considering the power from the 6T.
I'm really stuck between both phones. I've always LOVED any OnePlus device I've owned. While I've used pixel devices before, this is the first one I've actively owned and used consistently, and I'm actually loving it. My OnePlus fanboy side is telling me not to give in... But I'm becoming a bigger pixel fan every second I'm using it
I just passed on my 6T today, I had held onto it in case remorse set in but that hasn't happened. I went from Tmo on the 6T to Fi on this phone and for whatever reason get faster speeds on this phone even though in theory I'm on the Tmo network. Go figure on that one, only thing I've got is that my 6T was the unlocked variant, could be a factor...
I was getting too many dropped calls.
Not just in my house, but all over.
Very disappointing.
I returned my 3a XL for this and a few other reasons.
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I was getting too many dropped calls.
Not just in my house, but all over.
Very disappointing.
I returned my 3a XL for this and a few other reasons.
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Maybe defective?
I have no problems at all with calls.
Bluetooth connectivity is another story...
poncespr said:
Maybe defective?
I have no problems at all with calls.
Bluetooth connectivity is another story...
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He probably got a iPhone since his post was sent from a iPad ?
Could be his provider, location, etc. One data point doesn't mean much unless of course your the data point with connectivity troubles. I don't have any problems with anything. Phone has been flawless in that respect. Just wish it was a little speedier...
krabman said:
Could be his provider, location, etc. One data point doesn't mean much unless of course your the data point with connectivity troubles. I don't have any problems with anything. Phone has been flawless in that respect. Just wish it was a little speedier...
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I think this phone is awesome for the price. I sold my note 9 for a better camera and timely updates, and don't regret it one bit. But I do have some issues with the bluetooth behavior. When I turn on any previously paired speaker, the phone automatically assumes I want it to connect to it. This is annoying because every time I turn on the TV, the Pixel redirects sound output to it's sound bar. Also, when I connect to bluetooth speakers, music starts playing and then cuts off, and I have to redirect sound to the phone, then back again to the bluetooth speaker for audio to work. The second issue seems to be fixed on Q, but not the first one. It's just a minor annoyance, and not enough to ditch this phone, but never had this issue with any other phone. Other than that, I love my Pixel.
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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My last device was a OP 6T, so the OP 9Pro is several years later.....can't say I I'm having a similar experience. The 120hz beautiful display is buttery smooth. I only use wifi at my house and it's been fine. I personally think the camera is WAY BETTER than my 6t. It may not be Google Pixel quality but it's damn close.
My one and only gripe is the battery life. 6 hour average of SOT is not good.
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I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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Latest firmware (see sticky)? I have no issues at all. WiFi and Android Auto working fine. Smoother than my 8 pro.
sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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One thing regarding Android Auto: you have to enable developer options and change the standard USB behaviour to File Transfer.
Honestly over the years coming from 8t but started with 5t and having everyone up. the innovation died after 7 pro. just straight led to death(poor leadership). but with hassleblad and big sensors camera now comes into play. as for the rest of the hardware, well its current hardware what else do I say.. Oxygen is oxygen not the device, so software is equally relevant from previous versions... ltpo is an experiment we'll see how that goes. but to answer, generally I agree not impressed but not upset
If not for 5G, I'd have stuck with my 7 pro (I know I could have gotten a 7t pro but I figured I'd spend a bit more and get something new)
So far, it's not knocking my socks off
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
Disappointed with camera tbh can get some nice shots granted but soon as zoom past 3x it all goes pear shaped all the promo hype prior to release with the moons I was expecting at least half decent shots but zoom is terrible out of focus and we'll just crap really very disappointing and collaboration with hassleblad was basically a marketing gymick to fool us into thinking it's going to be a epic camera , oh we fell for that hook line and sinker , let's hope they can turn it around in future updates , not holding my breath , it's odd the moon was big and bright last night a nice orange tinge and looked a lot closer than when held camera up to get a shot it was much further away looking through camera and to get as close as it looked to the naked eye I had to zoom in 20x and we'll then it's just a fuzzy ball , pointless having zoom if it can't get clear shot really
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I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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Strange. I have none of these issues. Very, very strange.
its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better
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its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better
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Can only hope so , another thing is The difference is pictures like colours taking same picture multiple times theres no consistency Evey one looks different some out of focus some look brighter some look dull or washy think they need to work harder at getting better consistency especially switching back and forth from wide angle etc it's terrible
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I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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WTF dude?
A.) You are ****ed up your phone somehow yourself.
Or
B.) It's broken and you should have it replaced. There is a guarantee
Have you ever tried to reset the device and start over?
I read about software bugs in OxygenOS all the time. But somehow I've never had a problem myself. Before the 9Pro, I never had any problems with the OnePlus 3t also.
My 9 Pro works fine, Fast & never hot. It get's a little worm when it charges, but thats normal.
I am uninmpressed with samsung bs & iphose creap.
I agree it's getting better and better. My issue is that it was pretty bad when first released and some of these bugs should have to post release I think. Just my opinion.
It's getting better ever so slightly. But OOS 11 in my opinion never came out of beta. It ruined the 7 series, and honestly, it is hot GARBAGE on the 9 Pro, the UI/UX issues are annoying, things that just haven't been fixed and things that can be replicated on the 8 Pro that I also have.
The hardware is brilliant and some of the best ever imo (better than the iPhone 12 series), but OnePlus is seriously let down nowadays by their poor software and company decisions. Up until 1.5 years ago I had no issues with OnePlus Support, but now it just seems like customer service is the last thing on their agenda. Fairly disappointed but I guess this is the price to pay for their obvious complacency.
I would say the opposite of OP. Came from a 6T which is still going strong (gave to my sister). 9 pro is like WAY BETTER than 6T. The biggest gripe with oneplus has always been cameras but on 9 pro. It's frigging amazing. Initial reviews of camera were bad but they definitely improved it with updates. That's why didn't buy it staright away. The screen is gorgeous & buttery smooth. I love the curved screen. Always wanted one.
Just 2 issues - The battery life is meh. It's like pretty avg or below avg. The other issue is there is stuttering sometimes due to frame drops sometimes.
No issue with colors OS getting merged with OOS if it improves update speed & stability. They can still improve the camera a bit more. Some shutter lag is still there.
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I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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I don't use Android Auto, but I never had any problem with the DND mode. Works perfectly every day. OOS 11.2.9.9 has a few minor bugs, but what phone doesn't? I'm mostly happy with my OP9P. Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.
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Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.
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Literally from the exact things I described in my post. Also you're talking about 9.9, my post was from July and the phone has long since been retired.
I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
MidnightDevil said:
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
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I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.