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How does the OnePlus 3 (and Oneplus as a company) Compare to the OnePlus One

My OnePlus is starting to crap out on me and I'm looking at a OnePlus 3 but I am woried. It seams like there's still QC issues at OnePlus. My first OPO had the yellow screen issue. My current now gets burning hot, its buggy, the power button is glitchy and the battery really craped out in a year instead of 1.5 years like my s4 before it. At OnePlus's price range it seams like they really cut cornors on things you will not notice until you had the phone for a while. I'm thinking I am going to wait for the new nexus but I will be in Shanghai this weekend and may pickup a OP3 if they sell international versions at their china stores.

The hardware is literally the same hardware as most flagships at whatever time. In terms of the Oneplus one, mine still works and flawlessly I may add. I also have a Oneplus 3 now and very minor issues. If I had to say the oneplus 3 brings back the first time they released the one feeling. It's truly a successor to the one (At least my opinion)
So far my only issue :
Bluetooth media buttons don't work in my car (That's literally the only thing I can complain about)

katsumex said:
The hardware is literally the same hardware as most flagships at whatever time. In terms of the Oneplus one, mine still works and flawlessly I may add. I also have a Oneplus 3 now and very minor issues. If I had to say the oneplus 3 brings back the first time they released the one feeling. It's truly a successor to the one (At least my opinion)
So far my only issue :
Bluetooth media buttons don't work in my car (That's literally the only thing I can complain about)
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When I say cutting corners on hardware I mean like the quality of the battery cell, wifi chip, ect. I have always had connection issues with T-Mobile.

Nickco43 said:
When I say cutting corners on hardware I mean like the quality of the battery cell, wifi chip, ect. I have always had connection issues with T-Mobile.
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ahh well I've heard complaints but so far I've had no issues on AT&T in regards to wifi or LTE. Plus you have 7 days to return it should you not like it

katsumex said:
ahh well I've heard complaints but so far I've had no issues on AT&T in regards to wifi or LTE. Plus you have 7 days to return it should you not like it
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I will play with one in shanghai. I also just realized that the note 7 is a good phone. If I can put CM on it I may pick that up.

Nickco43 said:
When I say cutting corners on hardware I mean like the quality of the battery cell, wifi chip, ect. I have always had connection issues with T-Mobile.
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Not everyone's phone is created equal, even though they came from same vendor. My OnePlus one is still going on strong. No battery issues, no screen issues, no lag, etc... I bought mine on launch. Issues one may experience has a lot to do with how they use their phone also, so that has to be taken into consideration.
As far as the OnePlus 3, also purchased on launch and I couldn't be happier. Great phone, good battery, oxygen OS is doing much better than previous versions, and I use the dual sim to carry my personal number and my work number on one device (att/T-Mobile). I don't have Bluetooth button issues on mine like previous poster, it works fine. Only thing is every three days or so the recentre menu stops working and I need to reboot the phone. On current version oxygen OS 3.2.4
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making it "RAIN!"

How do you like the pixel?

Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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znel52 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
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5.1 said:
Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... [emoji14] Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Thank you!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone

liam_davenport said:
Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
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Thanks man!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Best camera, so awesome that even after selling the phone it keeps haunting me or something.
Best software experience. Phone is not as fast as a OP3T or something but I care about consistent performance and smoothness over burst performance.
Incredible call quality.
Very good battery life too.
The only reason I sold the phone was because of the touch screen issue I had on mine and then two other Pixels I tried too. Probably a hardware issue, or software calibration of the display, whatever it is it was annoying enough for me to not be able to use the phone, especially when I play games which require continuous touching.

Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.

Coming from the 6P and OP3, it's a huge upgrade from the 6P in battery life, build quality, camera and performance, and a moderate upgrade from the OP3. Touch lag is pretty much nonexistent or barely perceptible, software is the best Google has ever released. You'll probably love it.
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Gilley said:
Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon

untouchablez said:
I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.

I'm enjoying it a lot.

Gilley said:
Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
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Yes Im definitely trying to avoid the Verizon version due to the locked bootloader. Love my 6p but I need wifi calling and the pixel is really the only option sadly.

Performance is amazing, no lag, scrolling smoothness is great, apps load quick. My only real criticism is the small SBR. But hey, I knew that before I bought it.

My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.

thdaddy34 said:
My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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Yea I had an iPhone 7+ between my 6P and Pixel XL and like you said its so smooth and never lags, I use to be a big **** talker to my friends who used apple and after using it I get why people like it, just wasnt for me. I hated looking at 5000 icons and folders etc. If they ever got an app drawer it would be a different story but until then the OCD in me needs android and Pixel is the smoothest one out there. I too try each phone and I last maybe a week or so before I'm back to my Pixel because the new ones just cant keep up and arent worth $600-800 for how it looks.

Today I have a fight with my self about replacing my XL with S8+ , I was afraid of missing the software flexibility and customization and missing the smoothness and lag free software , so I decided to stay with the XL.
S8+ Have a nice screen , but actually using black profile on the kernel editor give me some sense of S8 screen colors .
Any way I couldn't replace the smoothness in XL with the screen colors in S8.

Pre-purchase Questions

I am interested in getting a 6" phone and have been reading on the Pixel XL 2 and the Note 8. The XL 2 seems out of the question with all the issues they are having and it seems some of you are having various issues with the Note 8. This is a lot of money to lay out for a phone that has issues. I am on Verizon and need to stay there due to coverage issues in East TN. Any help with my questions would be appreciated.
First and foremost the phone has to get good cell reception. I have a range extender at my home so it is not a big deal there but I also own a houseboat and use my Motorola X Pure to watch Netflix and tether to my laptop (mostly via PDANet) for work. My Motorola shows 3-4 bars most of the time and seems to stream great. However, whenever people have come to my home with Samsung phones (pre having the Network Extender) they could not get a signal or keep one. I could at least carry on a phone conversation without dropping a signal. Have any of you been beside someone with another brand phone in marginal areas and seen how the signals compare? The only 2 brands I have used at home have been Motorola and LG products. LG is not quite as strong but I could keep a signal. I guess I am more concerned about time on my boat where I don't have WiFi available.
Second is I have always had a phone I could root so I could use Titanium Backup. I'm seeing here that you cannot charge your phone past 80% if you root. That really sounds odd and since it has to do with rooting, I would not think Samsung would put that high on their list to fix. I am also reading where you can not use Visual Voice Mail after rooting and even when coming back to stock. I could go back to using Hangouts for my voicemail but VVM is easier.
Third, do you think this phone is worth the cost when there are so many issues. I'm used to a more vanilla based Android experience with the Moto X. I read where many don't like Touch Wiz and some of the Samsung bloat. How do you feel about this.
I'm not in a rush to make a change as I just changed the battery in my Moto X and had a vibration motor put in it. The biggest of my concerns is the cellular reception. This is a must.
Thank you for taking time to answer my questions.

Oaklands said:
I am interested in getting a 6" phone and have been reading on the Pixel XL 2 and the Note 8. The XL 2 seems out of the question with all the issues they are having and it seems some of you are having various issues with the Note 8. This is a lot of money to lay out for a phone that has issues. I am on Verizon and need to stay there due to coverage issues in East TN. Any help with my questions would be appreciated.
First and foremost the phone has to get good cell reception. I have a range extender at my home so it is not a big deal there but I also own a houseboat and use my Motorola X Pure to watch Netflix and tether to my laptop (mostly via PDANet) for work. My Motorola shows 3-4 bars most of the time and seems to stream great. However, whenever people have come to my home with Samsung phones (pre having the Network Extender) they could not get a signal or keep one. I could at least carry on a phone conversation without dropping a signal. Have any of you been beside someone with another brand phone in marginal areas and seen how the signals compare? The only 2 brands I have used at home have been Motorola and LG products. LG is not quite as strong but I could keep a signal. I guess I am more concerned about time on my boat where I don't have WiFi available.
Second is I have always had a phone I could root so I could use Titanium Backup. I'm seeing here that you cannot charge your phone past 80% if you root. That really sounds odd and since it has to do with rooting, I would not think Samsung would put that high on their list to fix. I am also reading where you can not use Visual Voice Mail after rooting and even when coming back to stock. I could go back to using Hangouts for my voicemail but VVM is easier.
Third, do you think this phone is worth the cost when there are so many issues. I'm used to a more vanilla based Android experience with the Moto X. I read where many don't like Touch Wiz and some of the Samsung bloat. How do you feel about this.
I'm not in a rush to make a change as I just changed the battery in my Moto X and had a vibration motor put in it. The biggest of my concerns is the cellular reception. This is a must.
Thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
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I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.

GigaSPX said:
I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.
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I appreciate your feedback.

I've had great cell reception between my Note 5, Note 7, and Note 8. The only time I really remember much of a difference in reception was when I actually got a brand new SIM when I purchased my Note 5 because they actually gave me a newer SIM that supposedly supported more/newer LTE bands in addition to NFC (had been cutting my SIM when getting new phones to keep GFUD). Whether that was hogwash or not, I can't say, but I did get better reception when I switched to my Note 5 from the HTC One M9 and it was faster.
I can't give an unbiased opinion on the V30 since I don't own it, but I have never liked the V series form factor. The Note 5 / 7 / 8 has been a perfect fit for me, and I have not had an issue with the phone so I don't know what you could be referring to regarding many issues. Having a TGSP (or lack thereof) isn't really an issue, and the Whitestone are not perfect (I and a few others have lines forming in the upper right corner of the glue) but are very good.
I do wish I had a root with no drawbacks so I can enable the free hotspot under my grandfathered unlimited plan (I need VoLTE and Wireless calling so I can't use the unlocked firmware) but it's far from a deal breaker.

I was at the Verizon store the other day and had a chance to take a look at the Pixel 2 and PIxel 2 XL. The differences between the Note 8 and Pixel 2 screens are unbelievable. The Pixel 2 screen is washed out and the colors are badly muted. I played with as many settings as I could find, but could not make it much better. Perhaps it was just a problem with the four Pixel 2 devices that they had. Maybe I just didn't find the correct settings for it. Whatever the case, the screens looked terrible on the Pixel 2s that I saw.
After seeing the differences between the screens alone, there is no way that I would ever use a Pixel 2 over my Note 8. The screen on the Note 8 is amazing.

I am now a proud owner of the Note 8. I bought it Saturday. So far I am quite happy. I still need to test it at the boat but it has done well around time. I didn't even waste my time looking at the XL 2. I read too many bad things about it.
Thx for the replies.

GigaSPX said:
I highly recommend you go with the Note 8. That's the first thing I'll say here to quickly summarize everything I'm going to answer.
1. Cellular reception really depends on various factors, but with the latest chipset on most flagship phones today, they're able draw signal and fast speeds. Without WiFi, that really depends on if Verizon set up more towers with better ranges near your area.
2. I've always been a root kind of guy until I got into the S7 Edge. Continuing from there with the Note 8, root is NOT necessary. It has overall great battery life and bloatware is NOT an issue to be annoyed by anymore. You can remove/disable apps easily with stock software. No need for battery savers or data cleaners because all they do is drain your battery as well.
3. What "many" issues have you seen about this phone? It's not as problematic as the Pixel 2 XL as you've said, and the LG V30 has it's fair issue of screen problems too. The Note 8, despite my little issues, is an amazing beast that I would hang onto for 3 years at least. This phone is the greatest at being the powerhouse it is and it will definitely last.
That's my 2 cents about it.
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Ditto
- R. Kruse Ludington:
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA

How is GPS on the device? Is it accurate? Good lock?

I know, odd question, but it's important for me.
There is a Note 9 in the family, a OP7 Pro to try, and so on. They all suck at GPS tracking/lock-on compared to my old Note 4 and former Mate 10 Pro.
Notebookcheck praised the Pixel 3a XL's accuracy, so I wonder... is it really that good?
I mean, the OP7 Pro can't even get a lock in buildings, and Maps/Waze will remove your route/tracking altogether cause it has 0 confidence, and happens in a city as well.
Note 9 is the same, although the route stays, it just keeps throwing the car like streets away from the actual position.
Ps.: Moral of the story? Dual-band GPS is nothing more than just a buzzword.

h8Aramex said:
I know, odd question, but it's important for me.
There is a Note 9 in the family, a OP7 Pro to try, and so on. They all suck at GPS tracking/lock-on compared to my old Note 4 and former Mate 10 Pro.
Notebookcheck praised the Pixel 3a XL's accuracy, so I wonder... is it really that good?
I mean, the OP7 Pro can't even get a lock in buildings, and Maps/Waze will remove your route/tracking altogether cause it has 0 confidence, and happens in a city as well.
Note 9 is the same, although the route stays, it just keeps throwing the car like streets away from the actual position.
Ps.: Moral of the story? Dual-band GPS is nothing more than just a buzzword.
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For what it's worth, I've had the 3a XL since launch and only once while using Google maps has it lost GPS signal, and it was in a tunnel, so there was no clear sky.

poncespr said:
For what it's worth, I've had the 3a XL since launch and only once while using Google maps has it lost GPS signal, and it was in a tunnel, so there was no clear sky.
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Thank you! I know it sounds silly to even ask this, since some had luck with their phone purchases and GPS just worked... but on the other hand, I was extremely unlucky. And trust me, there is nothing worse than having no GPS.
I'll place an order and sell my phone / one of the phones.
Have a nice day!

I've had my 3a XL since close to launch, and had no issues with GPS.
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hilker09 said:
I've had my 3a XL since close to launch, and had no issues with GPS.
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Me neither. I have no issues with the device, everything works as it should. Almost boring... :laugh:

this isn't a Samsung... haha

Question Flaws of the Pixel 6 Pro demonstrated when compared to S22 Ultra

I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.

The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?

MrBelter said:
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.

I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.

I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.

there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.

I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.

MidnightDevil said:
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture

There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.

I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.

cpufrost said:
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.

Paz9 said:
Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.

TonikJDK said:
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.

Yensid eno said:
I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).

NippleSauce said:
I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.

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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.

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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.

I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7

I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.

To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.