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Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
ckthunda said:
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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well what caused it to get scratch? maybe there were objects that were hitting against it in your pocket(if you do put it in your pocket)
or do you flip the phone over for speakerphone and tend to drag it on the desk around?
i certainly have no scratches on mine and i did drag it a little but none
Huh?
I don't have any scratches whatsoever on my phone. I had this baby from December and the only protection I have my phone is the screen protector. I don't what you have been rubbing against your phone but it must be something rough, as posted above.
I've had my TP2 for months and no scratches here.
the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
mrbox23 said:
the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
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Well that's what you have the screen protector for! That said.... depending on the quality of your protector it will show more wear quicker. For a time I ran on old tilt without a protector and NO scratches showed up on it at all. Then I put the protector on and bam... after a month.. scratched to hell. Same tile the Tilt 2!
ckthunda said:
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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Annnd yeah I have had my phone since December and not a scratch on the thing. I keep my phone in a holster on my belt and when I'm in my truck it goes into the car holder. I often put my phone face down on tables and what not and no scratches on the front for me.
It's all based on how careful you are with something that has value. Perhaps it's just you and not the phone.
Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
Ive just noticed that different carriers use different materials and finishes on phones to make it more branded. Also I was talking about a sprint TP2 and I went into the reverse logistics and found out it was a refurb so it wasn't as new as I thought.
Thanks for everyones thoughts though.
ckthunda said:
Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
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What carrier are you with? I have never seen chrome keys on any touch pro 2 variations.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/ima...om+"HTC+Touch+Pro2+for+Sprint+Review"&popup=1
Sprint Touch Pro 2. And whether its chrome or metallic it sux
Ok, I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S III 12 days ago. I have had may phones and NEVER had any physical damage. I dropped it from about 2 ft. The phone landed flat on its back and the phone is DESTROYED! The glass shattered in the top left and bottom right corners and there is cracks from corner to corner. The actual screen doesn't display, the back light is broken and even the Bluetooth module is acting up (now cuts in and out). I feel like the phone should have survived the fall and upon quick searches am finding lots of ppl with screen cracking easily. I called sprint and Samsung and neither would assist. I mentioned all of the reports online and they acted like they never heard of any issues. There are reports of others sliding out of their pockets while laying on the ground(looking under car) and falling a few inches and shattering. So I want to attempt to round the guys up on this one- anyone who is having issues with the SGS3 screen cracking or overall weak please post their experience here. Mine did not even have any scratches from the fall or signs of physical damage. After I talked to sprint and samsung the phone took some additional "falls" but I am posting a pic. The upper left and bottom right spiderwebs are the original damage.
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yousefak said:
Seems to be just a problem with the blue one. If you bought it 12 days ago, you could try some solution to make the screen look non-cracked (is it even possible?). Then you can bring it in for a return.
Unethical? Maybe. Illegal? Actually, I'm not sure. As long as you dont get caught...
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Ha yea i already claimed insurance on it, cant go 2 days w/o a phone ya no...
I dropped my phone one time. I hope I never do it again and feel sorry for anyone who does do it.
Gorilla GLASS. Its not shatter proof. Its scratch resistant. Think about how thin the phone is? How the screen goes right to the bezel? How the glass is curved? The phone itself doesn't offer much protection between ground and glass when dropped.
Drop a glass cup from 2 feet, sometimes you'll get lucky and it not break or crack but chances are it'll crack or shatter.
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I had my phone in my lap and dropped the phone when I got out of the car onto the concrete floor.i almost had a heart attack. But to my surprise it did not break. I have a TPU case protecting it. Guess I was lucky this time.
I know this might sound harsh but its probably what most people are thinking...... put a case on it. Its an investment and you should always protect your investments
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I have a blue one and I dropped it onto asphalt from 3-4 feet and not one crack or ding. Incipio case and a screen protector saved the day.
stop lying and the steps to phone ownership
first, i'm sorry your phone is broken. you will have to get a new one thru insurance unless god is on your side.
second.. do you think we're *******s? Look at that screen. 2 feet you said? did you drop it on to diamonds?
2 feet and my phone exploded is cute but try 1....4 feet and my phone broke and then i got mad and threw it 50 feet.
that story wont work. youre better off being good on the phone and hoping htey hook it up than tryign to tell them that something is wrong with yoru galaxy and it explodes when dropped.
buying and owning a phone:
1. choose, buy, pay for, acquire phone.
2. open box and remove from packaging.
3. PUT A NICE ASS SCREEN PROTECTOR (roughly invisishield quality) ON PHONE
4. PUT A ****ING CASE ON IT
5. havinjg done the most obvious things to do, consider putting money in a green mutual fund.
that nice screen protector is so key. someting a few mils thick to not only prevent scratches but absorb impact.
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Ok, I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S III 12 days ago. I have had may phones and NEVER had any physical damage. I dropped it from about 2 ft. The phone landed flat on its back and the phone is DESTROYED! The glass shattered in the top left and bottom right corners and there is cracks from corner to corner. The actual screen doesn't display, the back light is broken and even the Bluetooth module is acting up (now cuts in and out). I feel like the phone should have survived the fall and upon quick searches am finding lots of ppl with screen cracking easily. I called sprint and Samsung and neither would assist. I mentioned all of the reports online and they acted like they never heard of any issues. There are reports of others sliding out of their pockets while laying on the ground(looking under car) and falling a few inches and shattering. So I want to attempt to round the guys up on this one- anyone who is having issues with the SGS3 screen cracking or overall weak please post their experience here. Mine did not even have any scratches from the fall or signs of physical damage. After I talked to sprint and samsung the phone took some additional "falls" but I am posting a pic. The upper left and bottom right spiderwebs are the original damage.
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I don't care what anyone says, but Gorilla glass 2 is not scratch resistant.
DarkManX4lf said:
I don't care what anyone says, but Gorilla glass 2 is not scratch resistant.
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From light scratches yes. But not if you take keys or something similar and scratch it like your cutting a steak.
Thing about glass you have to have something harder then the glass to scratch it. Hence why diamonds scratch just about anything.
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ceissman said:
first, i'm sorry your phone is broken. you will have to get a new one thru insurance unless god is on your side.
second.. do you think we're *******s? Look at that screen. 2 feet you said? did you drop it on to diamonds?
2 feet and my phone exploded is cute but try 1....4 feet and my phone broke and then i got mad and threw it 50 feet.
that story wont work. youre better off being good on the phone and hoping htey hook it up than tryign to tell them that something is wrong with yoru galaxy and it explodes when dropped.
buying and owning a phone:
1. choose, buy, pay for, acquire phone.
2. open box and remove from packaging.
3. PUT A NICE ASS SCREEN PROTECTOR (roughly invisishield quality) ON PHONE
4. PUT A ****ING CASE ON IT
5. havinjg done the most obvious things to do, consider putting money in a green mutual fund.
that nice screen protector is so key. someting a few mils thick to not only prevent scratches but absorb impact.
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ok douchwad- do you think this is my first phone ever? Do you think im 12 y. o.? I have many phones- never have i seen the entire phone get destroyed when it lands flat on its back in the grass. I feel like there is possibly a manufacturing issue since a quick google search yeilds several ppl saying close to the same thing. You can believe that I chucked my phone across the room or that I spiked it on concrete or whatever. Bottom line I dont need to hear from a**bags that want to doubt what happened or explain that glass cracks. I want to hear from others that have had similar issues.
I feel like if a small fall is going to destroy a phone there should at least be a scratch on the surface that if fell on. I could understand a cracked screen but damage to this extent is a bit excessive for a fall in grass! There are reports of others screens getting cracked by pushing the power button! So if you want to call me a liar or whatever then please just keep it to yourself and move to the next forum.
ChrisM0678 said:
I know this might sound harsh but its probably what most people are thinking...... put a case on it. Its an investment and you should always protect your investments
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Im sorry but did I say i did NOT have a case? I wish you people would only comment when you actually have something to offer.....
ceissman said:
first, i'm sorry your phone is broken. you will have to get a new one thru insurance unless god is on your side.
second.. do you think we're *******s? Look at that screen. 2 feet you said? did you drop it on to diamonds?
2 feet and my phone exploded is cute but try 1....4 feet and my phone broke and then i got mad and threw it 50 feet.
that story wont work. youre better off being good on the phone and hoping htey hook it up than tryign to tell them that something is wrong with yoru galaxy and it explodes when dropped.
buying and owning a phone:
1. choose, buy, pay for, acquire phone.
2. open box and remove from packaging.
3. PUT A NICE ASS SCREEN PROTECTOR (roughly invisishield quality) ON PHONE
4. PUT A ****ING CASE ON IT
5. havinjg done the most obvious things to do, consider putting money in a green mutual fund.
that nice screen protector is so key. someting a few mils thick to not only prevent scratches but absorb impact.
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Who said explodes?
4g4me said:
ok douchwad- do you think this is my first phone ever? Do you think im 12 y. o.? I have many phones- never have i seen the entire phone get destroyed when it lands flat on its back in the grass. I feel like there is possibly a manufacturing issue since a quick google search yeilds several ppl saying close to the same thing. You can believe that I chucked my phone across the room or that I spiked it on concrete or whatever. Bottom line I dont need to hear from a**bags that want to doubt what happened or explain that glass cracks. I want to hear from others that have had similar issues.
I feel like if a small fall is going to destroy a phone there should at least be a scratch on the surface that if fell on. I could understand a cracked screen but damage to this extent is a bit excessive for a fall in grass! There are reports of others screens getting cracked by pushing the power button! So if you want to call me a liar or whatever then please just keep it to yourself and move to the next forum.
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when you use worlds like "douchwad" [sic]--yes I do think you're 12
DarkManX4lf said:
I don't care what anyone says, but Gorilla glass 2 is not scratch resistant.
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Agreed. Original Gorilla Glass was a much better product. Last phone was a year old. No case or screen protector, always in a pocket with keys and change, my clumsy ass dropped it all the time. It never had a scratch, the bezel was basically destroyed from dropping though. It finally met its match when it found the corner of a poured concrete step.
My first day with this phone it got a deep scratch in my pocket. Back to a case and screen protector... At least the black and white ballistic case looks awesome.
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nicholaaaas said:
when you use worlds like "douchwad" [sic]--yes I do think you're 12
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Come on give him some credit. He used "a**bags" so he must obviously be13
People can complain all they want about gorilla glass but it's still glass and should be treated as such. Maybe some King Kong glass is what people need.
If I understand correctly (and it is possible that I do not) you dropped a phone, that was in a case, two feet into the grass and this is the damage that occurred?
No offense but you are asking people to suspend disbelief to a rather illogical level.
There's no way u could of gotten the scratches on the back of the phone with a case on it my friend..... I call BS
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ChrisM0678 said:
There's no way u could of gotten the scratches on the back of the phone with a case on it my friend..... I call BS
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Unless the case is a poorly manufactured one and scratches the phone.
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Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
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To me
-HTC is better screen, but thats a preference in what you like.
-S7Edge screen can be fix with a case, I got the Ringke fusion clear case and I dont hit buttons inadvertently when I type anymore.
-The edge can be turn off.
-If you dont like the edge, get the regular S7 with exynos processor.
The only reason that people may tell you to get the HTC 10 is because they think touchwiz is still slow. Boomsound speaker is another reason to switch however, you can get dual facing speaker with the S7 edge just look at my video I posted a few days ago.
Ultimately this is what it come down to:
HTC 10
HTC blink feed
Metal
Boomsound speaker
Samsung
All glass design
enormous S7 edge battery
IP68 water proof
dual speaker (only on exynos phone)
The screen is up for grabs but if you like amoled then Samsung is the way for you.
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
I'm kind of in the same boat. I actually have both the S7 and the HTC 10 on my desk right now. There are a lot of things that I like about each one, but I'm torn between which to keep.
S7 Pros
- 5x5 app grid
- Volume and power buttons on the opposite sides of the phone
- Headphone jack at the bottom
- Quick settings accessible with one swipe
- FM radio
HTC 10 Pros
- Faster fingerprint reader
- "Capacitive" home button
- Cleaner Sense interface
- BoomSound
- Finally good camera
I like that the S7 is a little smaller and easier to manage with one hand, and Touchwiz seems to be a lot more refined. I think that HTC actually pared Sense back a little too much with the 10. There's not a lot of Sense left, but they kept the 4x4 app grid, which I really can't stand. On a 5.2" screen, it's really a total waste of space, and from what I can tell, the only way to fix that is to install a custom ROM, which I don't want to do until I'm sure I want to keep it. I'm also struggling because I feel like my S7 may have a defective display. The whites are kind of off and whenever I angle the phone slightly off center, the display gets a blue tint to it. I've never had an AMOLED display before, so I don't know if this is just how they are, or I have a bad one.
Any advice?
exxi said:
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
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If you liked the S7e but hated the edges, why not just get the S7 and be done with it? You're in an htc section so you're going to get biased opinions.
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Sammae7 said:
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
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thats what a case is for. are you going to carry your HTC naked?
I drop my S7E once or twice about 4-5ft with a ringke fusion clear case and no damage at all.
I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
Sammae7 said:
I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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if you use a case then how is it gonna crack?
thats like saying regardless if you have a case on the HTC 10 or not its gonna dent or scratch if you drop it. doesnt make sense.
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
Updates are important to me. Camera is second but it's okay. The HTC camera isn't very good IMO. And when I say "isn't good" I mean not a convenient camera. It takes great shots and what not but there's no oleophobic coating on the lens so smudges affect the image more. It's just unreliable for me for the auto photographer like me.
Battery could be better but for me it could be an app draining it.
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Sammae7 said:
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
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the problem lies in that you have a crappy case, not that the glass breaks and you have a case.
yes its fragile material, but if you have a case I dont see how it will break. that being said, I always own the Ringke fusion minimal clear case, drop my phone (S6, note 5 and S7 edge) several time, nothing happen. granted the HTC 10 wont shatter but it'll leave a dent or it'll scratch and it'll be a sore eye regardless.
Dude....if you have second thoughts about it, just return it already. Grown ups do not ask these childish question.
Hi all,
So I bought a OP3 used from some dude online. Phone was in great condition when I saw it. Only had a light scratch on the screen. Noticeable, but nothing to cry about. I did wonder what the guy could have done to it (and why he removed the screen protector) since it is GG4 and is supposed to be the newest of the new, but whatever. Well, a few days ago, I had to put the phone away in a locker and it was stored along with other phones. I did not notice until a day later, but it has a whole bunch of little scratches on the screen now. Just wanted to ask you all if anyone has had similar issues. My Nexus 6p has never gotten a scratch and I have always had it without a screen protector. I also am always careful with my devices. Never been dropped either.
Thanks,
I leave this here for you.
derdjango said:
I leave this here for you.
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Thanks but I kinda wanted real world experience. I have seen that video before. How am I supposed to know what strength a level 7 pick resembles. And even if I do my experience was glass on glass scratches which wouldnt make sense then.
I have noticed two little scratches on the screen just a few minutes ago, i ve used it at the beach during a vacation .. i m a bit disappointed for the screen resistance of this phone , i would ve never thought this was supposed to have scracthes so easely...
shajk-00 said:
I have noticed two little scratches on the screen just a few minutes ago, i ve used it at the beach during a vacation .. i m a bit disappointed for the screen resistance of this phone , i would ve never thought this was supposed to have scracthes so easely...
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Thanks for your comment. Exactly what I was thinking. The video above does not compare to real world usage.
Yes indeed, mines are even very noticeable with the screen on...this device actually has a very bad screen resistance
Ok first of all every phone with gorilla glass 4 will scratch identically. Tired of all this my phone is scratched my other phones never scratched in every XDA forum for a specific phone. EVERY PHONE WILL SCRATCH IN YOUR POCKET. Tiny particles of silica are inside the grit in your pockets which is much harder than glass and if you rub your phone in your pocket it will scratch, and this happens every day. Every phone I've had without a screen protector is eventually filled with micro scratches. My Galaxy S3, HTC M7, galaxy S4, LG G2, xperia Z2, galaxy S5, galaxy S6 all scratched slowly over time. Its normal, get a screen protector and you won't complain
crzykiller said:
Ok first of all every phone with gorilla glass 4 will scratch identically. Tired of all this my phone is scratched my other phones never scratched in every XDA forum for a specific phone. EVERY PHONE WILL SCRATCH IN YOUR POCKET. Tiny particles of silica are inside the grit in your pockets which is much harder than glass and if you rub your phone in your pocket it will scratch, and this happens every day. Every phone I've had without a screen protector is eventually filled with micro scratches. My Galaxy S3, HTC M7, galaxy S4, LG G2, xperia Z2, galaxy S5, galaxy S6 all scratched slowly over time. Its normal, get a screen protector and you won't complain
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Uhhmm.. It's not really a complaint. I am just wondering why they are soo noticeable. I am looking at my 6p right now on direct light and at my OP3. I treat them both the same, wear the same clothes (not every day), put them in the same pocket all the time and never put anything else in that pocket but the phone. Both phones are not using cases. I see no noticeable scratches (to me) on the 6p. The oneplus 3's are very noticeable. If you are tired of the posts, then go complain to the people that make the videos of them scratching the phones with picks that do not mimic real world usage. I just posted to read what others thought. I mean the phone is awesome and everything and scratches aren't gonna hurt performance but I was literally in awe because I have never scratched a phone as noticeable as the OP3 has gotten.
Sand will easily scratch any glass even gorilla glass, regardless of your phone.
I didn't like the screen protector that came with my OP3 because it muted the sharpness of the screen. I tried a couple tempered glass protectors off Amazon and they didn't adhere truly to 100% of the screen...so I threw both out. I was about to settle for another screen protector, however I decided I just liked the sharpness of the display with nothing on it, along with the natural oleophobic feel of the glass. I decided that since the phone was only 399 that I'd wing it and see how long I could get out of using it the way I truly enjoyed it before I detected the slightest of any flaw on the screen. It's been approx. two months now and I love using the display with no protection, and still don't have a single scratch. I regularly have the phone in my pocket, along with constantly transferring it between my car cradle and my house/office. I regularly clean the phone every evening....wipe down the back with a dab of alcohol on a tissue, and a dab of water to wipe down screen. Never use anything other than water on the screen because it will deteriorate the oleophobic coating. So far so good.
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Uhhmm.. It's not really a complaint. I am just wondering why they are soo noticeable. I am looking at my 6p right now on direct light and at my OP3. I treat them both the same, wear the same clothes (not every day), put them in the same pocket all the time and never put anything else in that pocket but the phone. Both phones are not using cases. I see no noticeable scratches (to me) on the 6p. The oneplus 3's are very noticeable. If you are tired of the posts, then go complain to the people that make the videos of them scratching the phones with picks that do not mimic real world usage. I just posted to read what others thought. I mean the phone is awesome and everything and scratches aren't gonna hurt performance but I was literally in awe because I have never scratched a phone as noticeable as the OP3 has gotten.
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Then you're doing something wrong with the OP3. The pick test is a real world test. If 2 screens require a level 6 on the mobs scale then it will require something of that hardness or higher to scratch your screen. The OP3 and 6P have the same exact screen hardness, they will scratch exactly the same. You or someone probably moved your phone while it was flat on its screen and it went over some grit or something which scratched the screen. It happens and it sucks.
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Then you're doing something wrong with the OP3. The pick test is a real world test. If 2 screens require a level 6 on the mobs scale then it will require something of that hardness or higher to scratch your screen. The OP3 and 6P have the same exact screen hardness, they will scratch exactly the same. You or someone probably moved your phone while it was flat on its screen and it went over some grit or something which scratched the screen. It happens and it sucks.
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Yeah you are probably right. It sucks that it happened so quick though. What I don't like about the pick test is that they should at least show what they mean by level 6 or give a little more explanation. In any case, this was not being made to rant on the phone quality because it is a very well made phone for the price. It exceeded my expectations coming from previous OP devices. I am perfectly fine with the phone. I ordered a TG protector. Hopefully it can hide some of the scratches.
jorgis1 said:
Yeah you are probably right. It sucks that it happened so quick though. What I don't like about the pick test is that they should at least show what they mean by level 6 or give a little more explanation. In any case, this was not being made to rant on the phone quality because it is a very well made phone for the price. It exceeded my expectations coming from previous OP devices. I am perfectly fine with the phone. I ordered a TG protector. Hopefully it can hide some of the scratches.
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Yeah it sucks, my boss slid my 2 day old bare galaxy S6 on a smooth surface and the rear glass was scratched all around the sides.
crzykiller said:
Yeah it sucks, my boss slid my 2 day old bare galaxy S6 on a smooth surface and the rear glass was scratched all around the sides.
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Is he still alive?
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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So ...
Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
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I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.