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Elephone P3000S 5.0 inch 4G, NFC, 4.4 KitKat Octa-Core 1.7GHz, 2GB/16GB ROM

FULL IN-DEPTH REVIEW
GPS IN-CAR TEST
VIDEO CAM TEST
OTA WIRELESS UPDATES ARE SUPPORTED
Camera Samples can be found on my blog here:
http://s7yler.blogspot.com/2014/12/elephone-p3000s-1280x720p-ips-hd-4g-nfc.html
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Elephone P3000S 5.0 inch 4G, 4.4 KitKat Octa-Core 1.7GHz, 2GB/16GB ROM & NFC
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The long awaited Elephone P3000 is now around the corner. Below here you can read the announcement from Elephone. I may get this and post a Unboxing and Review later when I got it. What do you think about it?
•The JDI screen displays sharp and high quality pictures. Meanwhile, power consumption of the screen decreased. There is still power left after heavy use for one day, that has solved the power consumption problem that exists on Android 4.4.2 phones. The camera performs outstanding, and there are lots of options in the menu to fit the different shooting environment. The accuracy of the color reduction reaches 90%. It performs excellent in low light condition.
•Furthermore, the combination of MTK 6592 and 6290 works great for 4G LTE. MTK 6592 is a mature developed Soc that has stable performance regarding running complex functions such as games and multi tasks.
Elephone released the Elephone P3000 in two versions. The P3000 and the P3000S. The Elephone P3000 is the lesser equipped one of the two. The Elephone P3000 comes with a Mediatek MT6582 1.3GHz Quad-core processor and 1GB of RAM memory. The Elephone P3000S comes with a faster Mediatek MT6592 1.7GHz Octa-core processor and 2GB of RAM. Both of the phones have a 720p OGS IPS screen that promises good viewing angles and color reproduction.
Main Features:
Elephone P3000s 5.0 Inch
RAM: 2GB / ROM: 16GB
Android 4.4 KitKat
MTK6592 Octa Core, 1.7GHz / Mali-450MP
Radio/Modem: MT6290
Support micro SD (T-Flash) 128G
NFC Built-in
SIM+micro SIM card, dual standby
Support Gravity/Light/Proximity Sensing System
FM/MP3/MP4/Bluetooth/GPS Function Supported
Note: This phone will only work with GSM+WCDMA+FDD-LTE
Networks: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz FDD-LTE 800/1800/2100/2600MHz
Cons/Minus:
The camera flash is not 100% synchronized with the shutter.
Compass sensor gives erratic output

What should I say....
A MTK6592 quad core combined with a 3150 mAh battery, 4G network , 2GB RAM 16GB ROM, and pretty almost full frequency
Guess that should last forever ...

It seems to be a very good device.....

I've pre ordered, it looks a good phone

Interesting ! I may (pre)order it for a friend.

Good Phone.

Android or MIUI
Does this device ship with Android or MIUI? I read somewhere else that we will have a choice of what system installed on the device,right?

momo77998 said:
Does this device ship with Android or MIUI? I read somewhere else that we will have a choice of what system installed on the device,right?
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I think with normal Android UI only. Sometimes Elephone then later upload another ROM in their forum (http://service.elephone.hk/forum.php).

Post #1 now updated with FULL REVIEW & GPS TEST video.

I wonder if it's a trustworthy device or if a lot of malfunctions will be appeared in the future.

The Elephone P3000s is a wonderful device so far as i can see. :good: and the awesome fingerprint scanner looks fancy alway like it

Stelios85GR said:
I wonder if it's a trustworthy device or if a lot of malfunctions will be appeared in the future.
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What malfunctions? everything works fine on the phone - you should know if you check the review. Only I must say that the Fingerprint scanner is just a gimmick for me. I don't really use it. And if your fingers are a little sweaty you sometimes have to do it twice before it can scan the finger correct, but it's not a big deal. Things like, WiFi, reception, speed, RAM, GPS, display, 3D games etc. works perfect for me on this device.

s7yler said:
What malfunctions? everything works fine on the phone - you should know if you check the review. Only I must say that the Fingerprint scanner is just a gimmick for me. I don't really use it. And if your fingers are a little sweaty you sometimes have to do it twice before it can scan the finger correct, but it's not a big deal. Things like, WiFi, reception, speed, RAM, GPS, display, 3D games etc. works perfect for me on this device.
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I am cautious to buy this device because some elephone devices in the past appeared problems. It's a very low cost devise for these specifications so I am afraid of low manufacture quality.
How would you characterize the external material and the quality of the device?
Do you advise me to risk and buy it?

Stelios85GR said:
I am cautious to buy this device because some elephone devices in the past appeared problems. It's a very low cost devise for these specifications so I am afraid of low manufacture quality.
How would you characterize the external material and the quality of the device?
Do you advise me to risk and buy it?
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Well, I already told my opinion in my video review. If you should buy it or not is up to yourself. Everything works fine for me on this phone. Previous Elephone models had problems with the battery draining too fast, or that you had to tap 2 times sometimes before it would react, on the P3000S the touchscreen seems to be better and the battery is also really good.

s7yler said:
Well, I already told my opinion in my video review. If you should buy it or not is up to yourself. Everything works fine for me on this phone. Previous Elephone models had problems with the battery draining too fast, or that you had to tap 2 times sometimes before it would react, on the P3000S the touchscreen seems to be better and the battery is also really good.
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And some devices had problems with GPS.
I think that I will finally buy it...

Stelios85GR said:
And some devices had problems with GPS.
I think that I will finally buy it...
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In post #1 you can also see my GPS test. The GPS is good.

s7yler said:
In post #1 you can also see my GPS test. The GPS is good.
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Yes I saw it, thank you for the review. I hope that this device is finally a value for money one.

Searching in the web I found that the device is not rootable now.
Is it possible for every phone to be rooted and it will became rootable in the future?

Stelios85GR said:
Searching in the web I found that the device is not rootable now.
Is it possible for every phone to be rooted and it will became rootable in the future?
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LOL that is completely nonsense where did you read that? all Elephones comes pre-rooted from stock with SU when you buy them. It have been like that since the G series from Elephone. In my Review video in post #1 you can also see that it has SuperSU installed.

Parrot RNB 6

Since the RNB6 project was cancelled, this thread is now closed.
Parrot RNB 6
The upcoming Parrot RNB 6 infotainment system (to be officially announced at CES 2015) looks like a promising device! In addition to the standard navigation and entertainment functionality we should expect from every devices of this kind, the Parrot RNB 6 will have some extra functionality which, in my opinion, will make it the best solution available on the market for 2015. ODB-2 Compatible with on screen car diagnosis, on-screen climate control and both CarPlay and Android Auto compatible!
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Here are some of the specs:
Running Android 5.0 Lollipop
Double DIN format (18 x 10 cm)
Android Auto compatible
Apple CarPlay compatible
ODB-2 compatible for on screen car diagnosis
7 inches 720p IPS touchscreen
55W x 4 Channels amplifier
GPS/Glonass compatible
On screen climate control (for compatible cars)
Full HD dash cam compatible
reverse camera compatible
USB ports
Ipod/Iphone port
Ethernet port
Wifi 5 Ghz
Bluetooth 4.0 BLE
Vocal and steering wheel controls
Android auto-voice compatible
Apple's Siri compatible
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wow that is very nice. For me android OS should be already in cars. Couldn't find info about the price.

I'm in! Let's see what the pricing looks like!

Does someone know what kind of cpu it has, how much memory, 1 or 2 gb and how much disk space has it, 8, 16 or 32gb?

i just read a comment on their blog-post that this gem is cancelled ... shame shame! anyone knows more than me?

It's look like they will release RNB6 head unit in a few months.

adrian_cozar said:
It's look like they will release RNB6 head unit in a few months.
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that'd be great news ... if its below €500,-- its a deal for me ... otherwise will have to think first

I really wish these dudes would give us a release date! I don't have a lot of patience to continue waiting!

^^ I know right? Let hope it is less than $400 or 500. I am hoping that this unit will come with real traffic live, much more features than Pioneer's newest unit that came with android auto, and able to use the gps data without using the android phone data.

elchmartin said:
that'd be great news ... if its below €500,-- its a deal for me ... otherwise will have to think first
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500 euro is much to low if you want that they use well know brands who are reliable materials like a fast quad core CPU, 2 gb DDR3 mem and at least 16gb of nand space. ( 32 gb should be a great option )
I think it will have a price tag between €600 or €1000 .

Does anyone know if there has been any further information on this.
I've been looking over the models recently and this seems to be the best one.
Looking for a new head unit for my new car but I don't want to be waiting until the cows come home only to find out its average

LOL, we've been reading about it since January at least.
So far, it doesn't exist.
Pretty much the only AA HUs are a few 2015 Pioneer units. (Besides my HU app with a tablet.

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Hi there!
I know these sorts of questions tend to result in canned responses, for
dozens of reasons, but I fell I still need to ask.
I've been obsessed with the RNB6 since I saw the demonstrations at CES. I
search every week for info all over the net, and I still can't find a
single update since January. Is there any additional information, projected
release dates, or anything? I'm confident this will be next next car
entertainment system.
Thank you very much!
** NO RESPONSE

i have been waiting too check this one out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
Monty Python - Dead Parrot

That does look pretty cool! Though I sure do wish I could get the additional cameras and awesome stuff provided by the Parrot option. This is really cheap though... hmmm Could be a great stop-gap measure.

Well... I'm worried about the overall build quality and the sound output.

[July 2015 update] RNB6 project was showcased at CES Las Vegas in January 2015 (watch video below). This infotainment system was selected by several automakers who envision to integrate it in their next-generation car models next year and beyond. As of today there is no plan to sell RNB6 in Aftermarket channels as RNB6 embedded technologies require deep integration with car series and manufacturers.
I found this Here. http://blog.parrot.com/2015/01/05/c...most-advanced-in-vehicle-infotainment-system/

cane11 said:
[July 2015 update] RNB6 project was showcased at CES Las Vegas in January 2015 (watch video below). This infotainment system was selected by several automakers who envision to integrate it in their next-generation car models next year and beyond. As of today there is no plan to sell RNB6 in Aftermarket channels as RNB6 embedded technologies require deep integration with car series and manufacturers.
I found this Here. http://blog.parrot.com/2015/01/05/c...most-advanced-in-vehicle-infotainment-system/
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Damnit! I guess I have to consider a tablet setup again... I really wanted an all-inclusive solution though.
What's annoying is that all the articles I saw on this unit were talking about how you could upgrade your 'clunker' with a new radio... and now they announce that this is only going in new vehicles? That's absurd. Oh well.

Teclast X3 Pro, the first 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD tablet pc

I have read the nice news that Teclast will also announce Teclast X3 pro which will be the first RAM 8GB and 128GB SSD tablet pc.
This is the same chipset as the Cube i9, which was just been released. Hot on heels of Cube, Teclast have gone for more RAM, 8GB of daul channel ram Vs the 4GB of dual channel ram in the i9.
It seems Teclast X3 pro will be th higher version of Teclast X2 pro. But gone is the last gen Core M 5Y10, replaced with the much more powerful, but still fanless Core M3-6Y30.
In one image it looks like we have USB 3.1 Type-C port? I wonder if it will finally have Wireless AC?
As for the price, it will be sold at $599 from E-Shop. So the official price will be around $385-$400 in China.
Are you looking forward to Teclast X3 pro tablet pc?
Teclast X3 Pro specs:
Item Type:
Tablet PC
Tablet Data Capacity:
128GB
Network Communiction:
Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port:
DC Jack,Earphone Jack,HDMI,OTG,TF card
Brand Name:
Teclast
Package:
Yes
Net Weight:
970g
Supporting Language:
English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukrainian,Greek,Hebrew
Camera:
Second Webcam
Processor Manufacture:
Intel
Touch Screen Type:
Capacitive Screen
Processor Main Frequency:
Dual Core
Feature:
Multi Touch,HDMI,OTG,Dual Cameras
Memory Capacity:
≥8GB
Item Condition:
New
Second Webcam Pixels:
5MP
Operating System:
Windows 10
Display resolution:
1920×1080
Cell Capacity:
9000mAh
Processor Model:
Intel Skylake Core M3-6Y30 1.51GHz
Screen Size:
11.6″
Teclast Model:
X3 Pro
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I'm planning to buy this tablet.

I like it,.. it resolves my main issue with the X16 Power — a PC with the computing power of the Samsung Galaxy S4. This is much closer to the S7 that just came out.
I am a *little* worried about android studio in 8GB of ram, I've seen my system go up over 8 with the emulator running .. but I guess I'll just have to get use to using a testbed device if I get this.

8Gb of RAM? God what are you going to do with that! Although it seems marketed towards professionals..

Walter H. said:
8Gb of RAM? God what are you going to do with that! Although it seems marketed towards professionals..
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I still can't believe it, and it is true, maybe the RAM 4GB can't afford the needs of the users like you.

FumiJ said:
I still can't believe it, and it is true, maybe the RAM 4GB can't afford the needs of the users like you.
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It's very useful for programs like Photoshop.

8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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by the way, ram 8gb is the main tendency now, i hope the price will be more affordable, so the users will be likely to catch one to enjoy it.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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yeah, RAM 8GB storage will become the main tendency of the laptop.

[email protected] said:
8gigs of RAM is a must nowadays on proper computers, so I'm glad that it comes with these.
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Almost.. yeah. Mostly due to Chrome using that much RAM.

Do you think it will have a real mSATA drive or one of those slower eMMC ones?

It is a real mSATA
"Like all the other Chinese Core M tablet tested here at Tech Tablets, the X2 Pro comes with a M.2 2242 spec 64GB SSD or 128GB SSD. My version here is the 64GB model. Speeds are good and definitely a huge step up from the eMMC drives seen in the Atom tablets. And since the tablet has USB 3 ports you can make more use of the faster sequential read and write speeds without any storage bottlenecks."
http://techtablets.com/teclast-x2-pro/review/

Will Video editing possible on this device?

Maybe a stylus available for this model?

what is the official day of sales ??? official website ?? technical specification approved ?? best product to buy? more information ??

Stylus available
Starzi said:
Maybe a stylus available for this model?
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Yup. Also confirmed with product FAQ on GearBest.

The fact that it's fanless will it lead it to increase of temperature? I hope not. It's now on presale on geekbuying for about 478usd which is a bit less than expected.

CARE ? , no vendor has available , NOT the official day that will be released is known .

I am ordering, hopefully they can ship early May. Rumors are 30th April is the first batch shipping

Mine just got shipped. I have ordered with keyboard ans x2 stylus, which is compatible according to Teclast FB support. I will keep you posted

CHUWI Hi9 Plus unlock, root, TWRP, etc

Specs:
Model CHUWI Hi9 Plus
CPU MTK6797X Helio X27 Deca Core 20nm
A53*4 2.0 GHz
A53*4 1.6 GHz
GPU ARM Mali-T880 875MHz
System Android 8.0
RAM 4GB DDR3
Capacity 64GB EMMC
Screen 10.8 Inch IPS Capacitive Screen
Resolution 1600x2560
Camera Front is 8.0MP Rear is 8.0MP
Microphone Built-in
Speaker Built-in
WIFI 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac(support 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz)
Bluetooth 4.2
GPS Support
G-sensor Support
Brand(Network)
GSM: 2/3/5/8(PCS1900.DCS1800.GMS850.GMS900)
WCDMA: 1/2/5/8(2100MHz.1900MH.850MHz.900MHz)
LTE: 1/2/3/5/7/8/20(FDD:2100MHz.1900MHz.
1800MHz.850MHz.2600MHz.900MHz.800MHz)
OTG Support
TF Card Support (Maximum support 128G)
Language Multi-language
I/O Port 1 x USB C port
1 x 3.5mm Earphone port
2 x Micro SIM Card slot
Battery 7000mAh
Weight 550g
Size 266.4*177*8.4mm
Product Website:
Here
How to Update:
Android Security Updates go to Settings >System >System Update >Check for update
Wireless Update (OTA) go to Settings >System >About Tablet >Wireless Update >Check for updates >Download >Install now >OK and System reboot.
Backup NVRAM/IMEI
Downloads:
Pre-shipping (Only flash if your device is broken) Android firmware: https://chuwiinnovationtechnologyshenz.box.com/s/0yuio8ysuvolmpbfp8ox69yqt8em4k0p
Flash tools and Drivers: https://chuwiinnovationtechnologyshenz.box.com/s/yz8brxi6fq5a0ehnysfl50j4966bsy76
Accessories:
Pen
Keyboard (Can't find a link for this one currently)

Development
Treble Supported but A-System partition only
Phh 8.1 GSI is fully functional minus the camera you will also need to set a custom width to make the screen not super tiny or use my edited one below.
Phh 9.0 GSI works but with a few bugs primarily Bluetooth and camera. But also it has a wonky navbar and notification pulldown but those 2 are aosp bugs
I have edited the v25 phh 8.1 gsi and added ro.sf.lcd_density=320 to the build.prop which makes it so the screen isn't super zoomed in. I will work on doing something similar to vendor in the future so its persistent over all gsi's.
Here is the download
Twrp:
I have gotten twrp working on this device, currently, decryption is not supported due to the limited space on the recovery partition. But the keyboard and stylus do work in recovery.
Source:
Custom twrp source
Device tree
Download:
3.2.3-0
Screenshot:
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Thanks for doing this, hope to see how other ROMs function. Can you also test a Pie GSI?

Thanks for this, I'm considering getting this tablet. Could you possibly do a video review? There hasn't been a good one in YouTube yet.

I'm going to assume that you are the only one doing any development with this tablet? Which is fine either way, it just let's me know once I get my tablet, how long the wait will be or expect for custom ROMs. Thanks again.

Dvalin21 said:
Thanks for this, I'm considering getting this tablet. Could you possibly do a video review? There hasn't been a good one in YouTube yet.
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Dvalin21 said:
I'm going to assume that you are the only one doing any development with this tablet? Which is fine either way, it just let's me know once I get my tablet, how long the wait will be or expect for custom ROMs. Thanks again.
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I don't plan on doing a review or anything i got it to do development on it. GSI's are working on it, i am planning on getting a device specific rom up and running soon. Working with the hi9 air and hi9 pro devs to see if we can make something that is compatible on all 3.

Thanks for the update. Can't wait to see all what you come up with!!

I asked them directly about buying the keyboard case separately.
It's not listed on their official Aliexpress store so you have to buy 35 units of "Extra Shipping"
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...l?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.55.63bb4c05f2hzru
And tell them you want a keyboard case.
Oh and thanks for TWRP.

Anyone that hasn't flashed anything yet, can you tell me the current security patch level?
I could swear that I saw June, but after flashing the rom provided by Chuwi it's at February.
Also it seems far more sluggish than it was before flashing.

death_hawk said:
Anyone that hasn't flashed anything yet, can you tell me the current security patch level?
I could swear that I saw June, but after flashing the rom provided by Chuwi it's at February.
Also it seems far more sluggish than it was before flashing.
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Yeah the firmware they provided is older, the one shipped on the device was june i have asked for updated firmware and was told they are working on it.

Oh good I'm not crazy.
I don't suppose you have a backup of the current one?

death_hawk said:
Oh good I'm not crazy.
I don't suppose you have a backup of the current one?
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No sadly, i am in the same boat i assumed the firmware would match what was shipped so i didn't grab one.

Let's hope someone else out there reads this before they flash.
Or Chuwi releases whatever is current.

NA

GSI is apparently doing some amazing work and possibly working around the clock. It's crazy to see that there is a partially working 9.0 rom( or lastest Android version) so soon after device release!

For anyone interested, I found the keyboard for 17 dollars, however the pen still like 27 dollars no matter where you go.
Keyboard

Dvalin21 said:
For anyone interested, I found the keyboard for 17 dollars, however the pen still like 27 dollars no matter where you go.
Keyboard
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The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!

Diomorgan said:
The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!
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Everything ive seen on the site checks out, not sure why you would have issue checking it out

Dvalin21 said:
Everything ive seen on the site checks out, not sure why you would have issue checking it out
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I just try and everyting was ok, but $9 shipping fees are pretty high. Grandtotal is ok anyhow due to the very discounted price. This is another addon that you might buy as soon as you can since it's already hard to find.
The rablet is sold at nice price by [email protected] and you can buy the pen as addon for €17 (maybe $20, but you save A LOT on shipping fees!!!)

Diomorgan said:
The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!
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It's just a normal Wacom active pen, I tried out my Lenovo one and that worked properly on it.

Where to buy (just) the module like PX30, PX5 or PX6?

Hi all,
I'm currently trying to build a Rockchip based head unit from spare parts I got from other units and only missing the System On Module piece like a PX30, PX5 or PX6 board (see pic). Looked everywhere but cannot seem find them, only already mounted on motherboards or aren't for Android Head units. Checked the normal places like Amazon, eBay, AliExpress and Alibaba.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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US $119.99 | WITSON ANDROID 9.0 PX5 Octa-Core +4GB RAM +64GB Flash Coreboard For Android DVD (For Android 8.0 V5XXX only)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtjtp7F

tdoyle10 said:
US $119.99 | WITSON ANDROID 9.0 PX5 Octa-Core +4GB RAM +64GB Flash Coreboard For Android DVD (For Android 8.0 V5XXX only)
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That's extremely expensive

You mean an MTCx module. They're readily available, just expensive.
Also, none of these Chinese units are Android auto. They're a hacked Chinese Android.

marchnz said:
You mean an MTCx module. They're readily available, just expensive.
Also, none of these Chinese units are Android auto. They're a hacked Chinese Android.
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Yeah indeed they are. I was looking to buy a development board but they are equally expensive.
Interesting comment about these units not being true Android Auto. Could you elaborate on that?

iceblue1980 said:
Yeah indeed they are. I was looking to buy a development board but they are equally expensive.
Interesting comment about these units not being true Android Auto. Could you elaborate on that?
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They are not Android auto. See/google certified units. These are a modified Android.
Android auto is basically screen mirroring, is that what you want.

marchnz said:
They are not Android auto. See/google certified units. These are a modified Android.
Android auto is basically screen mirroring, is that what you want.
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Ah I see, this is what I suspected you'd say but was hoping for finding out something I didn't know. I have to politely disagree with you however. The purpose of pure Android head unit is to have a separate car computer rather than extension of a mobile phone. There are so many limitations with Android Auto unless of course you are prepared to pay big big money. The big upside with these Chinese units is that they offer a good base for modders like me to make vast improvements (hardware- and software-wise) at a very low cost, making these units outperform anything out there in the market in price ranges up to $2,000 I would say, especially when it comes to sound quality as there is nothing in this price range that even comes close to Viper4Android as an example. The value is even higher if you get one of those 8227L units as they are considerably cheaper than Rockchip-based ones.
The only reason I would choose Android Auto instead of real Android unit is if I run true surround sound in my car (Dolby, DRS etc) rather than stereo or extended stereo. Mainly because I think there are limitations that are beyond modding or at least on a fairly intermediate level.

iceblue1980 said:
Ah I see, this is what I suspected you'd say but was hoping for finding out something I didn't know. I have to politely disagree with you however. The purpose of pure Android head unit is to have a separate car computer rather than extension of a mobile phone. There are so many limitations with Android Auto unless of course you are prepared to pay big big money. The big upside with these Chinese units is that they offer a good base for modders like me to make vast improvements (hardware- and software-wise) at a very low cost, making these units outperform anything out there in the market in price ranges up to $2,000 I would say, especially when it comes to sound quality as there is nothing in this price range that even comes close to Viper4Android as an example. The value is even higher if you get one of those 8227L units as they are considerably cheaper than Rockchip-based ones.
The only reason I would choose Android Auto instead of real Android unit is if I run true surround sound in my car (Dolby, DRS etc) rather than stereo or extended stereo. Mainly because I think there are limitations that are beyond modding or at least on a fairly intermediate level.
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I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
iceblue1980 said:
Hi all,
I'm currently trying to build a Rockchip based head unit from spare parts I got from other units and only missing the System On Module piece like a PX30, PX5 or PX6 board (see pic). Looked everywhere but cannot seem find them, only already mounted on motherboards or aren't for Android Auto. Checked the normal places like Amazon, eBay, AliExpress and Alibaba.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.

Bob_Sanders said:
I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.
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You are probably right. I changed it.

Bob_Sanders said:
I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.
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Just clarifying, these units are NOT Android auto. They might come with a number of screen mirror apps such as zlink but are not Android Auto.
Yes you can install the Android auto app on your head unit, but that's still not Android Auto. Refer google for Android Auto info.
Seems pointless wanting to screen mirror to a device that directly runs an app from the playstore....
[Android Auto is a mobile app developed by Google to mirror features from an Android device, such as a smartphone, to a car's compatible in-dash information and entertainment head unit. Once an Android device is paired with the head unit, the system mirrors qualified apps from the device to the vehicle's display, with a simple, driver-friendly user interface. ]

marchnz said:
Just clarifying, these units are NOT Android auto. They might come with a number of screen mirror apps such as zlink but are not Android Auto.
Yes you can install the Android auto app on your head unit, but that's still not Android Auto. Refer google for Android Auto info.
Seems pointless wanting to screen mirror to a device that directly runs an app from the playstore....
[Android Auto is a mobile app developed by Google to mirror features from an Android device, such as a smartphone, to a car's compatible in-dash information and entertainment head unit. Once an Android device is paired with the head unit, the system mirrors qualified apps from the device to the vehicle's display, with a simple, driver-friendly user interface. ]
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Yeah okay I see what you're saying. I actually never used Android Auto app myself but I understand the value. And no, I don't understand either why anyone would be interested in mirror linking their phone to an Android Head unit.
I'm actually looking at buying another car and of course sound is one of the major areas that I look at, i.e how much I can improve, aftermarket options etc. Android Auto is supported by some newer car brands (I'm looking at BMW X6 or Mercedes AMG GLE 63 S) but normally is an upgrade option, quite an expensive one..