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The new Sony watch: SmartWatch!

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It is called, simply, Sony SmartWatch (slightly unfortunate tagline: "Touch your world"), runs $149, and is supposed to come out in March. Here, I'll let it speak for itself for a moment.
Funnily enough, it lacks the one feature we most consistently associate with a watch—indeed, a feature we might consider indispensable: the continuous display of the time.
But in order to preserve battery life, the Sony SmartWatch only tells you the time when you "ask" it, by tapping once on the screen.
Tapping again calls up a range of apps on this Android-compatible device.
You can check your e-mail, texts, the weather, Facebook, Twitter. When a call comes in on your phone, you can reject or accept it via the watch (quite handy if you're wearing a headset).
And the thing is tiny, 36 millimeters by 36 millimeters, 8 millimeters thick, and weighing just 15.5 grams before you slap on a wristband of your choosing.
A few more details, for the spec-hungry: the watch uses Bluetooth to manage its commands to your Droid, and sports a multitouch color OLED display.
Sony's keeping somewhat mum on battery life, but CNET says about a week with low usage, half a week with moderate usage.
The watch is something of an update of Sony's LiveView watch, which was consistently ranked among the top handful of smart watches out there.
Why do smart watches matter?
I'll restate the obvious: they prevent you from having to fumble around in your pocket, constantly.
They stand to transform your wrist into something akin to (if a wee bit short of) a heads-up display.
It might seem like a minor point, but smart watch partisans call the experience transformative, and breakthrough technologies often arise through little ergonomic efficiencies like this.
(My one complaint is that these things will surely make the often oppressive feeling of constant connectedness even more oppressive and constant.)
EDIT: I have found a website selling the device, but I have no confirmation about it being geniune or not. Anyways, on own risk check it out, but I cannot be held responsible for making you buy fake items.
[URL DELETED]
AMAZON.CO.UK is doing a pre-sale already with as release date: February 29, 2012
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Generation-SmartWatch-Smartphone-Accessory/dp/B006RJR62I/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329310313&sr=1-3
Some specifications about the Sony SmartWatch:
General
Platform - Android 2.0 and up
Dimensions - 36 mm x 36 mm, thickness: 8 mm
Weight - 15.5 g main unit, 26 g for watchband
Bluetooth™ General
Bluetooth™ core version - 3.0
Operating Range (m) - 10 (The LiveView had the same Range, but the connection dropped at around 8m already so this cannot be trusted.)
Communications
Messaging - Can read sms and email and calendar reminders on display
Social Networking - Services Facebook, Twitter
Calls - Reject and mute calls, pre-defined sms, take call and use headset
Power
Power consumption - Low usage, 1 week. Typical usage, 3-4 days, Heavy usage,1 full day. (Again, the LiveView had a very similar ammount, but did not make it one full day @ Typical usage)
Charging connector - USB cable (Probably MircoUSB)
UI/Wearing
Graphical display - Multi-touch color OLED display
Keys 1
Wearing Watchband and clip
Music player control Via display
Sales Kit
Kit contents:
SmartWatch main unit with clipBlack watchband
Watchband adapter
USB charger
User guide + warranty leaflet

Just hope you can manage spotify from it.
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The player should be universal. I have multiple BT devices and most of em can control Spotify, even if it's just the PLAY button.

It's an interesting dillemma, isn't it? The primary function of a watch is to be a reliable time teller but trying to preserve standby time means making less use of it.
To justify such a device, you would obviously need to constantly utilize it, but "heavy" usage of the device would mean having to recharge your watch every day if it makes it that far.
Not for me, personally, but I can see it being a hit with a niche group of users.

Very nice !!

Good to see someone trying a watch since ms's failure with the Timex some years ago.
The need is there given the right solution.

i think i'll prefer the Moto ACTV better
unless some one can hack this baby as well and root android on it

AllGamer said:
i think i'll prefer the Moto ACTV better
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Possibly, but $250 puts it into the same class as a smart phone. I think the pound price is about $125-$150 US.

Looks nice!!

Great
And the Price ?

TubeDrug said:
Great
And the Price ?
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Approx. $149 - 119Euro

AMAZON.CO.UK is doing a pre-sale already with as release date: February 29, 2012
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Generat...9310313&sr=1-3

very very interesting and useable item

http://www.imwatch.it/us-en/
Sorry, but I've got to support these guys. They definitely need my funds to keep up with the rent on their ultra-clean office facilities.

I just preordered one myself, so I did some research on various online shops and thought I'd share it here:
amazon.co.uk €120 to be released on feb 29
mobilefun.co.uk €91
clove.co.uk: €84 first stock in early march, not sure if this includes any wristband
cyberport.de €80
cyberport.at €81 for austrian customers only
All prices converted to EUR (17.02.2012)

I hope it won't be as disappointing as Sony's Liveview..it was a wste of money..

Well I use the first LiveView with the SGS2 and it works really good.
The new LiveView price is to high and I think it´s cause only "Sony" branded!

I have SGS2 and liveview, and it suck big time.. all the time broken connection

Amazon now have it listed as April, I've pre-ordered it as I don't like taking my phone out to read a message when I'm out.
All the things it can do are added by installing them to the phone, I've already seen someone is adding things that Sony missed like gmail

very Nice . But Expensive

[Video] [Images] Sony Smartwatch 3 First Look

Sony Smartwatch 3 First Look​
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Hey all
With IFA 2014 underway, we have more info on the Sony Smartwatch 3. Lets start with a hand on video​
Credit to Which
Sony Smartwatch 3 key features:
Design: Sony has taken a sporty look with its latest smartwatch, with its rubber wrist band that can be swapped by popping the center watch out of its strap. While there are several colors available, they are of all the same type, so its down to Sony if any other style will become available. Its design does open up a few other possibilities than just a wrist watch, SmartPocketWatch anybody? As with most of the new wave of Smartwatches, this has no camera, for me no big deal. The device features a bright 1.6" 320x320 transflective TFT LCD display.
Android Wear: With Google's big push to unite all wearables to one operating system, Sony has provided with the Smartwatch 3. Its built around voice command and simple gestures to help with the functionality of such a small screen. It allows functions such as the ability to reply to text messages, view Email or get directions, all from the wrist!
Fitness Monitoring & Walkman: Sony has introduced a service called lifelog, this helps users monitor and develop their fitness and well being. Sony is also rolling out a new Walkman app, this will enable the pairing of Bluetooth headphones to the Smartwatch.
Lets take a look at some images of the Sony Smartwatch 3.​
Looking forward to hearing members thoughts on this new design:good:​
Credits: Which

And Sony have just lost a customer.
I hate watches with none changable straps, plus it looks cheap compared to the SW2.

mitch1974 said:
And Sony have just lost a customer.
I hate watches with none changable straps, plus it looks cheap compared to the SW2.
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It's the strap that looks cheap. A full metal one is coming soon.
http://www.mobilefun.com/48552-sony-smartwatch-3-metal.htm
I hope they show it as soon as possible. Many people dislikes this watch because of the rubber strap (wich is great for sports and swimming).
Remember is the first IP68 and with GPS. Probably will be the first to fully support the extra features of Android Wear 2.

And Sony may have just regained a customer.
(Unless the LG G Watch R tempts me away, stupid name though, I may have to go for the Smartwatch 3, just because it would be a less embarrasing name to tell people if they ask what I'm wearing)

It seems is a "last minute" move from Sony.
The rubber strap gave a negative first impression in many websites and forum comments. A full metal watch+strap may atract more people.
I was Ok with rubber because it's perfect for swimming or sweating, but giving options is the right path to shine and sell more.
I'm also really looking forward to see in action the sport/multimedia features without the phone. This watch is the first of a new generation.
Bring IT ON!!!

Despite missing the heart rate sensor, in terms of specs and hackeability, this seems to be the best (specwise) smartwatch soon in the market.
The screen is transreflective, wich, for me is a plus.
Would like to know if I can buy the metalic bracelet version on the release day, or will have to buy after, but definitelly very excited about this smartwatch:
Memory
Flash 4GB eMMC
RAM 512MB
Sensors
Ambient light sensor Yes
Accelerometer Yes
Magnetometer Yes
Gyro Yes
Wi-Fi® Wi-Fi® enabled
GPS Yes
Bluetooth
Bluetooth specification 4.0
Transfer rate < 3Mbps
Power class Class 1
NFC Yes, to power on the SWR50 and start the Android Wear host
application
USB Yes, standard micro USB for charging and ADB installation
Battery
Type Li-polymer
Capacity 420 mAh
Charge time ≤ 1 hour
Usage time
Typical usage Up to 2 days
Standby time Up to 4 days
Environmental data
Operating temperature range -20°C to +60°C
Operating humidity range 5% to 99% RH
Storage temperature range -40°C to +85°C
Storage humidity range 20% to 95% RH
Charging temperature range 0°C to 45°C
Water and dust classification IP68*

Wi-Fi?
Where did you read it has Wi-Fi?
In official specs they don't say it:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/smartwear/smartwatch-3-swr50/specifications/
Edit:
Ok it's here: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/SmartWatch3_SWR50_WP_1.pdf
Wi-Fi "enabled", what does it mean? normal wifi?
If it has wifi opens the door for many more things like music apps downloading music without the phone or to sync exercices directly...
It's weird they don't talk about it in Sony website...
What do you think?

Fingers crossed for the Wifi thing!

Sony Smartwatch 3 Metal Black (exclusive)
Before someone asks: This is a real image.

Nice, really nice. Thanks for sharing.

First official ad video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdIyFXxZ7w

nCoder said:
The screen is transreflective, wich, for me is a plus.
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I do not think it is a tranfectif screen.
Does anyone has already seen the sw3 ON without backlight?

It is confirmed in official specs. I don't doubt of that.
But wifi is only a spec in internal documents.
In public Sony website they don't mention it. That's a mystery at the moment.

In google play, it also mentions it's WiFi Ready!!!
Also Bluetooth 4.1
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=sony_smartwatch_3_black
Bluetooth 4.1 devices can act as both hub and end point simultaneously. This is hugely significant because it allows the host device to be cut out of the equation and for peripherals to communicate independently.
For example, whereas previously a smartwatch would need to talk to your phone to get data from a heart monitor, now the smartwatch and heart monitor can talk directly saving your phone’s battery and then upload their compiled results directly to your phone. This is crucial to the Internet of Things concept: peripherals become independent and can build their own networks before bringing the collation of all their data to you.

What does WiFi ready add in? I can't wait for this watch!
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It is unclear if its a mistake or not. Sony hasnt said anything about it. In the prototypes is not enabled.
We can only guess. But the potential is big. For example imagine a music service to download music before going running, or after the actitvity to sinc everything without using the phone...
Wa have to wait for the Andorid Wear 2.0 update...

Has the Nike ap already been tested? http://www.kdramastars.com/articles...-s-newest-smartwatch-release-date-october.htm

OnePlus 3 Specs, Price, Release date, Review

Oneplus 3 has announced June 15, and right now it has released the metal soap invitation letter. We have heard a lot of rumor about Oneplus 3, but right now we can confirm the hardware.
Check Oneplus 3 main features:
5.5inch 1080p AMOLED screen,
Snapdragon 820 processor,
two version, RAM 6GB ROM 64GB.
UFS 2.0 flash storage no support expansion.
3,000mAh battery,
16MP back camera and 8MP front camera,
Dual NanoSIM card, dual standby.
H2 OS based on Android6.0.
152.7×74.7×7.35mm dimmension, 158grams weight.
Dash flash charge, netcom, NFC, USB Type C, DSP Camera technology.
It sells at 2499 yuan, $416 for Chinese version, $399 for US version, 519CAD in Canada, and 399euro in Europe, will you have a try?
Source: igeekphone
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Guys guys it's not leaked is intentional
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Samhith mSrivatsa said:
Guys guys it's not leaked is intentional
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Definitely..

a video of the device. looks amazing. hope they will keep the same price level. any idea when will it be avaliable for international shoppers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZAGyyXMJww&feature=youtu.be

Hype or Flop? coming
talevi said:
a video of the device. looks amazing. hope they will keep the same price level. any idea when will it be avaliable for international shoppers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZAGyyXMJww&feature=youtu.be
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it's still early for me

I's so excited for the new Oneplus! Can't wait for the full specs!

Someone have "new" news of this?

Are they finally going to let people order without the invite system? Looking to replace my phone, but was never able to get the One or Two as I never got an invite.

shockreaction said:
Are they finally going to let people order without the invite system? Looking to replace my phone, but was never able to get the One or Two as I never got an invite.
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oh, i am so sorry to hear that, it is said it will not need to invite in some stores. you can inquire others.

Right now i have read the news about Oneplus 3 possible specs from the Oneplus fans. According to the meeting with Oneplus fans in India, Pete Lau expressed that they will let the fans say what’s the ideal hardware it will be about Oneplus 3.
During the talk Pete offered the phone with either RAM 4GB and 128GB rom or 6GB RAM, 64GB rom,
Possible OP3 specifications;
Full HD AMOLED screen
Thinner phone size
HDMI connectivity
128 GB internal memory
A 16-megapixel camera
24-hour battery life on full charge
Curved screen like in Samsung Galaxy S6
Stereo speakers in front
Near field communication (NFC)
It’s said Oneplus 3 will be released in July. I hope most of specs are right, especially ROM 128GB. So what do you think of these specs? Will it come with these kind of specs?

they will be happy their fans?
i don't know... i think the specs will be change

seen the same specs appear here:
Mod Edit by @Darth : Selling site link removed. Spam not welcome here thanks! Last chance member.
so i guess it will probably be the final specs. sounds very good. hope the pricing will be low

It does look good though, clever marketing or not. Wait and see i GUESS

RavinDave001 said:
It does look good though, clever marketing or not. Wait and see i GUESS
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YEAH, it has come out today, and here is oneplus 3 unboxing review,
Oneplus 3 vs Samsung S7 Edge vs Xiaomi mi5 Quick Charge test review

Yes
shockreaction said:
Are they finally going to let people order without the invite system? Looking to replace my phone, but was never able to get the One or Two as I never got an invite.
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The invitation system is past.

After some test OnePlus 3 is a big surprise. Finally a high-end phone with a snapdragon and 6GB of RAM. No worries screen calibration.
Some site speaks yellow problem, but its failure would be a qualibrage. I greatly recommend this smartphone
A camera very powerful, despite the limited functionality available currently.
The fingerprint sensor is very responsive compared to competitor phone.

I've had word from oneplus that you need to have the dash charge charger for that feature to work, but they never said whether you need the dash charge cable or not (is it just a standard type-c cable?)
Anyone got any info yet?

geemacd said:
I've had word from oneplus that you need to have the dash charge charger for that feature to work, but they never said whether you need the dash charge cable or not (is it just a standard type-c cable?)
Anyone got any info yet?
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you can read this about dash charger, i just saw it has normal usb type C cable in the package.

Replacing Stereo Guts With Raspberry Pi

I am pretty tired of this cheap out-of-date Android 4.4 head unit.
I realize I want to take the guts out of the unit and put a Raspberry Pi 3 in it so I can get Android 6 or 7 on the unit. Could anyone push me in the right direction on how this would happen?
Currently I have a Joying rk3066. All I really need is to somehow reuse the the screen however I am unsure how to do that.

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So I looked into this and this may be easier than I initially figured. You do not need to replace the guts of the head unit with a Pi. There is a much simpler way. I rain into a RP3 case that holds a 7 inch LCD screen.
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The case cost $19.99 and can be found here.
Then there is the LCD screen itself that goes into the case.
That screen is $67.99 and can be found
.
Then you add around $35 for a Raspberry Pi 3 and then that is all. All you need to do is mount it in the vehicle and put android onto the Pi 3. BAM! Instant Upgrade! The Pi 3 has already available to run Android 6 and more recently Android 7.

Hello,
interesting project.
Some questions:
- how to implement air radio, sound amplifier, GPS, handfree control (voice command/vehicule commands)?

I've got one of the official raspberry pi screens and its larger than a double din opening by quite a bit.

fabien_m2002 said:
Hello,
interesting project.
Some questions:
- how to implement air radio, sound amplifier, GPS, handfree control (voice command/vehicule commands)?
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I read up a little on this. Here is what I found...
GPS...
http://www.mr-lee-catcam.de/pe_cc_i6.htm
FM Radio...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breakout-Bo...473021?hash=item281656b4fd:g:NlQAAOSwfZhXMtTS
Audio...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-to-HDM...r-Converter-/201574747216?hash=item2eeeca8c50
Steering Wheel Control...
https://www.amazon.com/Axxess-ASWC-1-Universal-Steering-Interface/dp/B00B4PJC9K
All this hardware seems incredibly inexpensive.

leonkernan said:
I've got one of the official raspberry pi screens and its larger than a double din opening by quite a bit.
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I've learned that there are smaller screens you can buy. 7 inch, 5 inch, 3.5 inch, etc. They are pretty inexpensive too.

This seems like a very interesting idea. Here is another one for the GPS - https://www.adafruit.com/products/790 Also, check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzrVj66IOA&t=6s

Several Raspberry Pi head unit projects have been spawned.
Most end up being very custom if they succeed ...some are half-baked and end up orphaned.
Compared to a pre-built head unit, most end up costing more and doing less.
However, the experience of learning through DIY usually ends up being the continual draw to keep on trying.
This looks like one that was a success:
http://engineering-diy.blogspot.com/

This is a good article/tutorial, but a little outdated. It does give you the basic ideas, need something newer though.

tbd2k2 said:
Several Raspberry Pi head unit projects have been spawned.
Most end up being very custom if they succeed ...some are half-baked and end up orphaned.
Compared to a pre-built head unit, most end up costing more and doing less.
However, the experience of learning through DIY usually ends up being the continual draw to keep on trying.
This looks like one that was a success:
http://engineering-diy.blogspot.com/
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I've seen some of those units with that interface.
I wouldn't mind a regular Android interface, I wouldn't need that UI. Still, a Pi 3 with that setup has potential if you are able to download and use apps off the Play store. That is a huge deal for me and a deal-breaker if unable.

Google search i-carus

Where to buy (just) the module like PX30, PX5 or PX6?

Hi all,
I'm currently trying to build a Rockchip based head unit from spare parts I got from other units and only missing the System On Module piece like a PX30, PX5 or PX6 board (see pic). Looked everywhere but cannot seem find them, only already mounted on motherboards or aren't for Android Head units. Checked the normal places like Amazon, eBay, AliExpress and Alibaba.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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US $119.99 | WITSON ANDROID 9.0 PX5 Octa-Core +4GB RAM +64GB Flash Coreboard For Android DVD (For Android 8.0 V5XXX only)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtjtp7F

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US $119.99 | WITSON ANDROID 9.0 PX5 Octa-Core +4GB RAM +64GB Flash Coreboard For Android DVD (For Android 8.0 V5XXX only)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtjtp7F
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That's extremely expensive

You mean an MTCx module. They're readily available, just expensive.
Also, none of these Chinese units are Android auto. They're a hacked Chinese Android.

marchnz said:
You mean an MTCx module. They're readily available, just expensive.
Also, none of these Chinese units are Android auto. They're a hacked Chinese Android.
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Yeah indeed they are. I was looking to buy a development board but they are equally expensive.
Interesting comment about these units not being true Android Auto. Could you elaborate on that?

iceblue1980 said:
Yeah indeed they are. I was looking to buy a development board but they are equally expensive.
Interesting comment about these units not being true Android Auto. Could you elaborate on that?
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They are not Android auto. See/google certified units. These are a modified Android.
Android auto is basically screen mirroring, is that what you want.

marchnz said:
They are not Android auto. See/google certified units. These are a modified Android.
Android auto is basically screen mirroring, is that what you want.
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Ah I see, this is what I suspected you'd say but was hoping for finding out something I didn't know. I have to politely disagree with you however. The purpose of pure Android head unit is to have a separate car computer rather than extension of a mobile phone. There are so many limitations with Android Auto unless of course you are prepared to pay big big money. The big upside with these Chinese units is that they offer a good base for modders like me to make vast improvements (hardware- and software-wise) at a very low cost, making these units outperform anything out there in the market in price ranges up to $2,000 I would say, especially when it comes to sound quality as there is nothing in this price range that even comes close to Viper4Android as an example. The value is even higher if you get one of those 8227L units as they are considerably cheaper than Rockchip-based ones.
The only reason I would choose Android Auto instead of real Android unit is if I run true surround sound in my car (Dolby, DRS etc) rather than stereo or extended stereo. Mainly because I think there are limitations that are beyond modding or at least on a fairly intermediate level.

iceblue1980 said:
Ah I see, this is what I suspected you'd say but was hoping for finding out something I didn't know. I have to politely disagree with you however. The purpose of pure Android head unit is to have a separate car computer rather than extension of a mobile phone. There are so many limitations with Android Auto unless of course you are prepared to pay big big money. The big upside with these Chinese units is that they offer a good base for modders like me to make vast improvements (hardware- and software-wise) at a very low cost, making these units outperform anything out there in the market in price ranges up to $2,000 I would say, especially when it comes to sound quality as there is nothing in this price range that even comes close to Viper4Android as an example. The value is even higher if you get one of those 8227L units as they are considerably cheaper than Rockchip-based ones.
The only reason I would choose Android Auto instead of real Android unit is if I run true surround sound in my car (Dolby, DRS etc) rather than stereo or extended stereo. Mainly because I think there are limitations that are beyond modding or at least on a fairly intermediate level.
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I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
iceblue1980 said:
Hi all,
I'm currently trying to build a Rockchip based head unit from spare parts I got from other units and only missing the System On Module piece like a PX30, PX5 or PX6 board (see pic). Looked everywhere but cannot seem find them, only already mounted on motherboards or aren't for Android Auto. Checked the normal places like Amazon, eBay, AliExpress and Alibaba.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.

Bob_Sanders said:
I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.
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You are probably right. I changed it.

Bob_Sanders said:
I believe @marchnz was referring to your use of the term "android auto" in your initial post.
These machines can do "Android auto" but they are not recognized as 'android auto machines'.
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Just clarifying, these units are NOT Android auto. They might come with a number of screen mirror apps such as zlink but are not Android Auto.
Yes you can install the Android auto app on your head unit, but that's still not Android Auto. Refer google for Android Auto info.
Seems pointless wanting to screen mirror to a device that directly runs an app from the playstore....
[Android Auto is a mobile app developed by Google to mirror features from an Android device, such as a smartphone, to a car's compatible in-dash information and entertainment head unit. Once an Android device is paired with the head unit, the system mirrors qualified apps from the device to the vehicle's display, with a simple, driver-friendly user interface. ]

marchnz said:
Just clarifying, these units are NOT Android auto. They might come with a number of screen mirror apps such as zlink but are not Android Auto.
Yes you can install the Android auto app on your head unit, but that's still not Android Auto. Refer google for Android Auto info.
Seems pointless wanting to screen mirror to a device that directly runs an app from the playstore....
[Android Auto is a mobile app developed by Google to mirror features from an Android device, such as a smartphone, to a car's compatible in-dash information and entertainment head unit. Once an Android device is paired with the head unit, the system mirrors qualified apps from the device to the vehicle's display, with a simple, driver-friendly user interface. ]
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Yeah okay I see what you're saying. I actually never used Android Auto app myself but I understand the value. And no, I don't understand either why anyone would be interested in mirror linking their phone to an Android Head unit.
I'm actually looking at buying another car and of course sound is one of the major areas that I look at, i.e how much I can improve, aftermarket options etc. Android Auto is supported by some newer car brands (I'm looking at BMW X6 or Mercedes AMG GLE 63 S) but normally is an upgrade option, quite an expensive one..