Purchasing advice requested for ATT Note 7 - Note 7 Questions & Answers

Hello everyone,
Would really appreciate advice on an imminent purchasing decision. I have a Note4 and a iPhone6s plus as my daily phones right now, so this is not about phone wars but a genuine question. In fact I have a brand new iPhone 7 plus 256GB sitting unopened at home and will probably be returned within 2 weeks.
I would like to use an android phone as my daily driver instead of the iPhone and I find the Note4 fingerprint reader too cumbersome compared to the iPhone. So am looking to upgrade. However, I am not able to decide if I should go for 1) An unlocked s7 edge 2) carrier s7 edge 3) carrier Note 7.
If I understand correctly, the unlocked S7 edge appears to the fastest version, and B&H has it for $670. However I believe accidental damage warranty is a big issue as there’s some doubt about Squaretrade covering unlocked phones. Please correct me if I’m mistaken or if you’ve ever successfully filed a claim with them for unlocked phones.
The locked (ATT) s7 edge of course is more expensive and after tax I am looking at 794+80 = 869. However with the 256GB card promotion now ongoing that cost will be recouped and we’re looking at the same price as unlocked.
I believe the Note 7 (ATT) was about 100 bucks more than the S7 so another 110 after taxes. Given that I’ve spent 900 another 100 bucks is not going to break the bank. Do you folks feel the Note 7 is a worthy upgrade over the S7 edge or am I moving backwards due to the Gorilla Glass 5 and Lag issues? Specifically do the US Note 7 users notice a much bigger lag than US S7 edge users? I use the Note 4 Stylus maybe once a month, so while it feels good on paper, I know I will hardly ever use it. Future proofing is nice, so I'd consider taking a Note if it's at least as good as the S7 edge. Thanks for the advice..

if you dont use the s pen, you should consider the s7 edge, the note is the note because the s pen, I have de exynos note 7, and the fingerprint scanner is fast, has no lag, absolutely no complaints of any kind, I dont know about the snapdragon version

I have both and the main differences are spen, screen size, and the new UI on the Note 7, I prefer it over the s7 edges touchwiz. There's also a difference in the edge. On the s7 edge I find myself accidentally touching the edge with my palm or finger a whole lot more than on the Note 7 causing accidental clicks or scrolling issues. As far as performance, root and debloat both of them and they'll both be smooth.
I'd say the Note 7 is worth the extra, you'll likely find uses for the spen quite often and the extra screen real estate is nice.

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AT&T Note Edge Pre-Order is live

I just ordered mine in Charcoal, but White seems to be available, after it was said to be coming later. I have a tentative ship date of 11/13.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
I'm still hold it not ordering the Note 4 to see Note Edge. Now i'm not sure if $100 extra worth it for the small curve screen. Stop by couple ATT store today but none of them have the Note Edge display model
Also kind of waiting for the ATT Note 4 to have root
When both phones were announced the Edge appealed to me because it was so different. I decided against it for a couple of reasons.
Price. It's the same as the Note 4 so you're literally paying for the "edge."
Awkwardness. Cases, docks, covers, and GPS mounts are going to be odd and not optimized for the display. I use a car mount and can imagine how goofy the Edge will look in it.
Updates. Samsung has terrible track record of updating their "limited availability" devices; even worse than their mainstream devices. Add AT&T to the mix and it's scary.
Software. There's a nifty API developers can take advantage of to maximize the Edge's "edge." How many will with so few sold? And regular apps are going to look funny on an unbalanced display - "flat" on the left side, "shiny curved black border" on the right.
People should buy what makes them happy but, for me, this is the first time in my mobile device purchase history I went practical (Note 4) over intriguing (Edge).
BarryH_GEG said:
When both phones were announced the Edge appealed to me because it was so different. I decided against it for a couple of reasons.
Price. It's the same as the Note 4 so you're literally paying for the "edge."
Awkwardness. Cases, docks, covers, and GPS mounts are going to be odd and not optimized for the display. I use a car mount and can imagine how goofy the Edge will look in it.
Updates. Samsung has terrible track record of updating their "limited availability" devices; even worse than their mainstream devices. Add AT&T to the mix and it's scary.
Software. There's a nifty API developers can take advantage of to maximize the Edge's "edge." How many will with so few sold? And regular apps are going to look funny on an unbalanced display - "flat" on the left side, "shiny curved black border" on the right.
People should buy what makes them happy but, for me, this is the first time in my mobile device purchase history I went practical (Note 4) over intriguing (Edge).
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Wholeheartedly agree! I was so psyched to learn about it at first but upon reading about the device, all of your points quickly became apparent to me as well. One thing DEFINITELY worth mentioning is the different materials used, plastic-based over metal-based was the biggest drawback to me. I believe originally it was $50 more as well.
I'll probably trade my note 4 plus boot off for one
BarryH_GEG said:
When both phones were announced the Edge appealed to me because it was so different. I decided against it for a couple of reasons.
Price. It's the same as the Note 4 so you're literally paying for the "edge."
Awkwardness. Cases, docks, covers, and GPS mounts are going to be odd and not optimized for the display. I use a car mount and can imagine how goofy the Edge will look in it.
Updates. Samsung has terrible track record of updating their "limited availability" devices; even worse than their mainstream devices. Add AT&T to the mix and it's scary.
Software. There's a nifty API developers can take advantage of to maximize the Edge's "edge." How many will with so few sold? And regular apps are going to look funny on an unbalanced display - "flat" on the left side, "shiny curved black border" on the right.
People should buy what makes them happy but, for me, this is the first time in my mobile device purchase history I went practical (Note 4) over intriguing (Edge).
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I totally agree with you. I'm getting one, but it's foolish not to consider all of your points before deciding if this is for you. I have had the first 3 Notes and honestly the Note 4 did not excite me. The 2 phones that excite me are the Edge and the Nexus 6. But I can't live with a 64gb phone with no removable battery and no card support. So that leaves the Edge. I'm keeping my Note 3 and trying out the Edge. If it doesn't work out, I'll trade it or return it.
All stock is sold out online.
Hardcore73 said:
All stock is sold out online.
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There probably wasn't much there to begin with. It's more likely "limited supply" rather than "massive demand" that led to a sell out.
I wonder if AT&T will let people trade in the Note 4 for the Note Edge???
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I wonder if AT&T will let people trade in the Note 4 for the Note Edge???
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As long as the phone is in their system then you should be able to trade it in.
matrix2004 said:
I wonder if AT&T will let people trade in the Note 4 for the Note Edge???
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I'm still a bit unsure if I will like the Note Edge, but I figured I would try it. In the store they said I could trade in my online purchased Edge in store for the Note 4 if its within the 14 days for a $35.00 restocking fee. So if it's been within 14 days I don't see the issue.
And if your on AT&T next, you could probably pay out the remainder if you've had it longer then 14 days, and upgrade with nothing down but taxes.
My note edge will be here on the 23rd or maybe sooner can't wait for this awesome device.
If you pay the remaining amount for the Note 4, then wouldn't the trade in value be maximum $300 from AT&T?
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I'm still a bit unsure if I will like the Note Edge, but I figured I would try it. In the store they said I could trade in my online purchased Edge in store for the Note 4 if its within the 14 days for a $35.00 restocking fee. So if it's been within 14 days I don't see the issue.
And if your on AT&T next, you could probably pay out the remainder if you've had it longer then 14 days, and upgrade with nothing down but taxes.
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arjun90 said:
If you pay the remaining amount for the Note 4, then wouldn't the trade in value be maximum $300 from AT&T?
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If you pay the remained and then upgrade, you do not give them back the Note 4, you would then go sell the Note 4 and cut your losses I guess is what he is saying. I am within my 14 days by a lot still so personally I am thinking about going in and giving them this Note 4 back , eating the 35 dollar restock fee and then getting a N6 and paying 8 dollars less a month. My reasoning is just I cannot have an Android device without root.
You might as well purchase the device for the Retail price
whoamanwtf said:
If you pay the remained and then upgrade, you do not give them back the Note 4, you would then go sell the Note 4 and cut your losses I guess is what he is saying. I am within my 14 days by a lot still so personally I am thinking about going in and giving them this Note 4 back , eating the 35 dollar restock fee and then getting a N6 and paying 8 dollars less a month. My reasoning is just I cannot have an Android device without root.
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really ? it looks odd , geeks like me will love it
I can handle the extra lag going from Nexus 5 to touchwiz but I had to return my edge because of the lag opening folders/apps from the edge panel. It drove me freaking nuts.
Just ordered mine from ATT today, should be here sometime this week, excited! Like someone said before, I got it because it's different, smartphones are all getting to be about the same these days, and my rooted Note 2 was still working well for me, did everything I wanted and needed, really had no incentive to upgrade until I saw the Edge!
Just got my Edge in the mail today! But not opening it til Christmas. For one, I feel bad having a new phone while my wife still has a old one (ill be getting her a iPhone 6) and for two, im probably get nothing for Christmas, this will be my only present

[Q] Opportunity to trade for a Note 4...worth it?

I currently have a Note 3 (Rooted) & a S4 (Lollipop).
I have an individual with a new Note 4 that he'll trade for the above two phones.
My question is, is it a good trade for me? Is the Note 4 all that?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I don't think it's a fair trade. Value wise, the two are worth more than the Note 4. Besides the Note 4 isn't that much of an upgrade from the Note 3.
depends, on swappa, a verizon s4 in good coniditon seems to hovering around $180. Note 3 is around $250.
Note 4 seems to be around $420. Pretty close to the price of the other 2. Although it should be noted (no pun intended) that prices to fluctuate from week to week a bit...
And it also depends on what you need. Are you going to trade the phone into the carrier? You'd get a lot less than the prices I looked up if you did. You want to save one for a backup? It might be an easy way to get rid of 2 phones for their estimated used value. No ebay, no fees, no dicking around with idiots on craigslist.
I would say keep your note 3 until the note 5 comes out. Or sell whichever you can make more on and keep the other until the note 5 comes out. If its not a Note 4 developers edition it's definitely not worth it in my opinion since there is no root method for retail editions.
Is there an ETA on the Note 5?
I've actually got 3 phones that I switch around, depending on my mood...those to & a Lumia Icon, which I find myself growing attached to.
I guess I should find an "Idiot's Guide to the Samsung Note" so perhaps I could learn to enjoy it more.
There is no root for the note 4 and may never be. All developers have abandoned it. Do not trade.

Worth upgrading to note 7

Hey
So I have tmobile jump on demand, got the s7 edge like 4 months ago and it's a beast of a phone. Wondering what your guys opinion is if it's worth getting the note 7
Sadly I don't think it's much of an upgrade from s7 edge
But i still couldn't resist pre ordering it. I have the s7 edge will let it go to my Mrs and sell her s6 edge plus
Still can't wait till it gets delivered lol
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If you have JOD, why wouldn't you do it? T-Mobile will do it for $70. I have one more JOD, for this year, and I'll probably do it once more. I love the S7 edge and getting a new Note 7 @ $900 for so little means I'll love this one too.
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If you have JOD, why wouldn't you do it? T-Mobile will do it for $70. I have one more JOD, for this year, and I'll probably do it once more. I love the S7 edge and getting a new Note 7 @ $900 for so little means I'll love this one too.
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I still have to pay a down payment? When I got JOD for the edge, rep said I only pay down payment once and whenever I upgrade to something else, I don't need to pay my down or tax anymore
I'm also a JOD customer, and when I originally pre-ordered the phone it was with a $70 dollar deposit. Long story short I had to upgrade to an S7 Edge when my note 5 stopped charging and i was headed out of town and needed the phone. That included cancelling the pre-order.
When I called back, I was told that exact thing. As a JOD customer, I don't have to pay the down payment. I honestly asked to go back to the $70 down to lower the monthly and they said it wasn't possible anymore for JOD. So maybe he/she did it before they came out with the updated pricing for JOD customers.
Now, all that being said. I've had the s7 for about a week and a half and do love the phone but am missing the stylus as I've been an avid note user since my first Note 3. My fiance was originally going to do the Note 7 but she liked the phone I have so much she's going to go for the s7 Edge instead. I'm definitely upgrading because of the stylus, slightly larger screen, and iris scanning. And, I'm actually surprised to be looking forward to the Edge screen because I wasn't sure I'd even like it coming from the Note 5.
fenderguy05 said:
I'm also a JOD customer, and when I originally pre-ordered the phone it was with a $70 dollar deposit. Long story short I had to upgrade to an S7 Edge when my note 5 stopped charging and i was headed out of town and needed the phone. That included cancelling the pre-order.
When I called back, I was told that exact thing. As a JOD customer, I don't have to pay the down payment. I honestly asked to go back to the $70 down to lower the monthly and they said it wasn't possible anymore for JOD. So maybe he/she did it before they came out with the updated pricing for JOD customers.
Now, all that being said. I've had the s7 for about a week and a half and do love the phone but am missing the stylus as I've been an avid note user since my first Note 3. My fiance was originally going to do the Note 7 but she liked the phone I have so much she's going to go for the s7 Edge instead. I'm definitely upgrading because of the stylus, slightly larger screen, and iris scanning. And, I'm actually surprised to be looking forward to the Edge screen because I wasn't sure I'd even like it coming from the Note 5.
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Yea i called tmobile and they said i had to pay a 70 downpayment and if i dont, my monthly payment is 38$ which is absurd. I was under the impression that when i'm on JOD, i could get the phone at their regular monthly pricing without paying the down, otherwise not worth it
Note5 here... Its pretty much the same thing... A bit faster, a bit better camera, a bit bigger battery and a screen that's a bit curvy-er
danman987 said:
Hey
So I have tmobile jump on demand, got the s7 edge like 4 months ago and it's a beast of a phone. Wondering what your guys opinion is if it's worth getting the note 7
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Yeah it's worth the upgrade the note is actually a computer and has a lot more access you need MSN Excel PowerPoint all of the above.. ... .z. . x.... .
Over on android forum a guy just pasted a price of £740 on release in the UK. Lol
If I sell my S7E I probably would have to stump up another 300 quid for the addition of a pen.
I'll enjoy my superb Edge a little longer until prices have dropped ... or the S8 is announced .
Motorola V20 might be interesting too.
Not until they fix the awful memory management, if any.
Coming from Note 4 or 5, probably yes, from s7e u probably better wait for V20 or any other phone.
IMHO these questions are ones that only You can answer.
From what device you are upgrading from? what you want from phone? Which values you more, Note 7 or the money you need to use for it.. And so on.
S7 Edge Exynos user here,
I was expecting to buy the Note 7 in launch but it is not offering enough reasons to make a switch. First and most important of all, i wanted to get rid of EDGED curvy display but it is still there in note7. The cpu/gpu and ram is the same.Camera havent changed. I dont find spen any use. Unless they release a Note 7 with flat screen, exynos 8893 and 6gb of ram, better and higher mp camera, i will wait for S8 to be released. Hopefully they would release the S8 with 5.5inch flat display.
I think it's worth it but you need to really take a close look at what you use your phone for/want to use your phone for. I think the Note 7 has a lot to offer if you plan to use it in a certain way (basic example: would you use a stylus?).

Basically losing an upgrade?

So basically, if we go an exchange it for an S7 Edge, we are essentially screwed until we have that paid off and cannot get the new note, or whatever Phone they have with a stylus when it comes out. This is mainly the reason why im keeping my note 7, until something goes wrong with it. Its yet to get hit, and im constantly monitoring it. If they say we can upgrade early like we could've with this one, Id be all over it. Until then, kiss my ass Verizon and Samsung
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So basically, if we go an exchange it for an S7 Edge, we are essentially screwed until we have that paid off and cannot get the new note, or whatever Phone they have with a stylus when it comes out. This is mainly the reason why im keeping my note 7, until something goes wrong with it. Its yet to get hit, and im constantly monitoring it. If they say we can upgrade early like we could've with this one, Id be all over it. Until then, kiss my ass Verizon and Samsung
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I agree...its all one big cluster f*** and the consumers are getting screwed once again.
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I agree...its all one big cluster f*** and the consumers are getting screwed once again.
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And its exactly why im keeping it until other wise. Verizon tried screwing me on my Unlimited data, even though i didnt use the upgrade on the Unlimited line. Not happening again.
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And its exactly why im keeping it until other wise. Versions tried screwing me on my Unlimited data, even though i didnt use the upgrade on the Unlimited line. Not happening again.
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It should be unlimited anyway imo. Just another way for them to make more money. I'm going back to the iPhone myself....RIP Note 7
This is what I'm concerned about too. I don't want to use my upgrade to downgrade to an older phone. Maybe we could convince them to just let us use the S7 edge temporarily and keep our upgrade and use it when the s8 or another note comes out?
Meeee Tooooo!
They aren't leaving me much choice.... I'm about to place the order for the S7E walking into a local store to at least look at the demo first..
Not only are we losing an upgrade but we are also forced to purchase 2 devices within a year (replacement to Note) and whatever the next upgrade is. Not pleased with this scenario as I had waited through the S6, Note 5, and S7 for a device I wanted. My S4 is barely hanging on so that isn't an option either. Not happy.
This is the reason I'm going with the Pixel XL 128 gig. It's the best new phone out. The S7E is a viable option, but I sold mine to get the Note, so I am not wasting an upgrade. Iphone isn't an option for me
I was thinking about calling Samsung today to vent and see if I could get them to send me a free s7e then I wouldn't have to go through Verizon and use my upgrade.
I've been in touch with Tami Erwin's (VP of Verizon Wireless) executive office and I've complained about this very issue. Essentially losing an upgrade for a device like the S7 Edge, as it's not my first choice (the Note7 was) and it's now 7 months old and does not qualify for the annual upgrade anymore. It seems Samsung and Verizon have stopped that with Samsung smartphones now. So to me the closest experience to the Note7 is the S7 Edge, but it's quite a bit older and my second choice. They are supposedly looking into changing this and might let people keep their upgrades. I'd suggest the more who call in and complain to the executive office, the better chance we have of getting to keep our upgrades for the S8 or next Galaxy after that in the fall.
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I just spoke with a Verizon rep (via online chat). According to her, we are still eligible for the annual upgrade program after exchanging the Note7; however, the annual upgrade date will be from the date the new device is activated NOT the date we purchased the Note7. - This makes sense, as one of the stipulations of the annual upgrade agreement was that 50% of the device (Note7) had been paid off. On that note, she also confirmed that any device received in exchange for the Note7 can be upgraded prior to the one-year-mark, as long as it has been activated and has been in use for 30 days, and 50% of the balance has been paid off.
I feel a lot better knowing that if I downgrade to the S7 Edge, I can pay an extra sixty bucks come August and still preorder the Note8 (assuming there will be one).
I love this device too much. I will not use my upgrade to downgrade. Device is too perfect. If it goes, so do I. I designed a special headband to hold the note 7 firmly against my forehead while I sleep so if it explodes we both leave together.
Justinphxaz said:
I've been in touch with Tami Erwin's (VP of Verizon Wireless) executive office and I've complained about this very issue. Essentially losing an upgrade for a device like the S7 Edge, as it's not my first choice (the Note7 was) and it's now 7 months old and does not qualify for the annual upgrade anymore. It seems Samsung and Verizon have stopped that with Samsung smartphones now. So to me the closest experience to the Note7 is the S7 Edge, but it's quite a bit older and my second choice. They are supposedly looking into changing this and might let people keep their upgrades. I'd suggest the more who call in and complain to the executive office, the better chance we have of getting to keep our upgrades for the S8 or next Galaxy after that in the fall.
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What response did they provide? I feel the same way. I have to downgrade to a device I don't want and is now "old" from the device I waited several cycles for. I'm not pleased with having to downgrade and lose an upgrade due to faults not my own.
Yeah this is bad. We need to put our heads together and figure out a loophole or something. Goal is to obviously keep our upgrade available for when the s8 or new note comes out. Or preferably, keep the note 7 until s8 or new note then get refund and upgrade to new device but if they really set a recall deadline it kinda screws that plan...
The annual upgrade stopped for people who bought phones after 9/10/16. Had to buy a s7 prior to that date to be able to upgrade at the 50% mark
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The annual upgrade stopped for people who bought phones after 9/10/16. Had to buy a s7 prior to that date to be able to upgrade at the 50% mark
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Correct... And a lot of us bought our original Note 7 on or before 8/19/16... So wouldn't the logical thing to do be: let the people who exchange the Note 7 for an S7 or S7E be grandfathered into the yearly Samsung upgrade so long as the Note 7 was purchased prior to 9/10/16?
There is a difference between the standard Verizon one year upgrade and the Samsung specific yearly upgrade, isn't it? I'm under the assumption that the Samsung specific one matches half of your paid cost so long as you've got half already paid on it, to effectively wipe the balance so you can upgrade to a newer Samsung without continuing to pay the other half on the first. But I may be totally misinformed on that.
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Correct... And a lot of us bought our original Note 7 on or before 8/19/16... So wouldn't the logical thing to do be: let the people who exchange the Note 7 for an S7 or S7E be grandfathered into the yearly Samsung upgrade so long as the Note 7 was purchased prior to 9/10/16?
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Per my discussion with Verizon (see attached screen shot), this is what they're doing.
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Per my discussion with Verizon (see attached screen shot), this is what they're doing.
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well its great that "Jessica" thinks we can upgrade but unfortunately this is not an official position yet and many verizon representatives have stated the opposite so this is till a crapshow.
That looks like the standard upgrade policy, going into effect at the date of the replacement's activation instead of the original Note 7 purchase date. That's not the Samsung yearly upgrade promotion. Unless you're on a grandfathered plan, Verizon always allows upgrades after 30 days if half the phone is paid off, it's the trade in value that changes depending on whether you're on the standard upgrade path or the Samsung Yearly.

Who is remaining on Samsung - Note 4 or 5? Discount for us too, please!

I am still using my Note 4 after returning Note 7. Had to shell out addition 70 bucks for a new case and glass screen protector. Hopefully it will get me through to Q1 2017 till I can see what Samsung comes up with then. I consider myself loyal to Samsung even if I didn't get the s7. I didn't go to some other company like many did. I had no way of knowing they would offer a huge discount on s8 (which I hope they do - sounds awesome!!!) and 2 years is a long time to bind yourself with a contract to using a dated phone. But, for our trouble, shouldn't we former Note 7 customers get a discount on s( or Note 8 as well? I mean those that didn't go on s7? Say yay if you agree hopefully some Samsung spy will se it .
Back Note 4 rooted with MOAR note 5 port.
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I'm unsure still but most likely I'll end up with my old Note 4.
As for that discount, was that confirmed yet or still rumors? If rumors, don't count on it.. they're already offering people 100 bucks to step onto the S7, I doubt they're going to do another discount.

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