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Capacitive pen for taking notes.

Hey, I'm looking to take some notes on my tab and was looking for some suggestions. I've found a couple cool programs but need a pen.
My noted are almost all math related so equations and such.
Any advice would be very helpful.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S2 on TELUS.

When it comes to capacitive stylus, I believe price is a good signal of quality. I have tried both high end (e.g., boxwave) and low end (generic, bundled with other accessories), and the difference is very noticeable. Good luck taking math notes.... I am an economist and my note-taking involves math too. You are going to have a hard time getting good results. I tried doing this, but had to go back to my clunky convertible tablet to get the results I needed. Unless you get a slate with a digitizer (like the Flyer or the Thinkpad), you are pretty much out of luck.

Your not out of luck... just need this!!
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
1) DIY fine ponit stylus with materials u can find in ur house... for FREE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM
I found a blog where someone made a more precise intructions .... but I don't
remember the site!
2) Someone took the idea to kickstarter and now they are commercializing there
version of a fine point stylus.... only that it cost around 20-30 bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpwfoEk0-bY
http://adonit.net/product/7
I just pre ordered one of these bad boys!!!

Hmm, looks intriguing. I'm not holding my breath until this type of technology is proven and reviewed thoroughly. Thanks for sharing.
Edit; Here's the blog with the detailed instructions:
http://tumblr.kinglau.co/post/6442455519/ipadstylusdiy

Will take a look. Still in the market for a tablet. I like tthe 10.1 but would be better if I could take notes.
I find the flyer too small for me and the one that att has is like $800 so I'd rather use paper than that lol.
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check out this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057JAA54
i just ordered one, i guess for $8 it is worth trying

The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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mafiaboy01 said:
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x

Pedraso XDA said:
Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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But its $800 lol
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Doesn't the Lenovo Thinkpad tablet also come with a digitizer and pen?

I'll try the DIY out and let you know how it goes, looks easy enough and I have everything needed. I paid one looks great as well, but I'll wait fir the reviews to roll in. Thank you for showing this to us.

How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.

cooljonL said:
How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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The Dagi came first than the one i showed u guys... but I've read some reviews and they say that it's hard to get used to because w this one u have to write w a certain angle for it to work at its best.

That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.

cooljonL said:
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
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You can probably do that using Sketchbook Pro. Just import the image, zoom in on where you need to write, merge the layers when done and save.

I too am looking for something to take notes on. I bought a Flyer and it was pretty inaccurate. This is one of those things where if it isn't done right it will be horrible experience. My best suggestion would be to wait for the Samsung Series 7 Slate. I know its pretty expensive but look at like this it can replace your laptop.

The 12.1 Asus eePad slate (Windows-based) gets good reviews on the note-taking area.

first of all: out there are a varaity of stylus for your tabs and phones. the regular capacitive pens you'll find for a buck or two on ebay are the same as the ones cellphone companies sell for like $20, does are just like using your finger and are only good for people with big/fat fingers since they cant type on keyboard well and other stuff like that without hitting the wrong key. but some genius chinese guy invented this wish you can make at home by yourself without any money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1&feature=endscreen
but also two companies took this idea and patented it, and here are the results
Dagi:
P501 and P502 (old method with just stylus)
P601 (old method with ink pen in one end and stylus in the other)
P504, P505, P506 and P507 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil)
(the P504 comes in 9 different colors)
P602 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil- and also an ink pen in the other end)
Adonit:
Jot and Jot Pro (The best out there)
I have a Dagi P504 and an Adonit Jot Pro. I use the on my Tab on Sketchbook Pro and other Drawing and Note-Taking apps. They both are very good but the dagi does not have a cap so the point can bend in a backpack or something and the adonit jot pro is very sleek in desing and has a cap. Its up to each ones likes. I paid $18 for the P504 and $30 for the Jot Pro. I bought them on ebay. You can find all of the styles on ebay.
You can find all of the styles on ebay.You will find The Dagi from $15-$30 depending on styles and the Adonit from $25-$45
The idea from the guy on the vid works great too
NOTE: I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 Galaxy 10.1 owners: You must have root on your device and use TouchScreenTune (free app that fixes your touch screen sensitivity). Otherwise the writing will lag. Link below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital

i bought dagi p601 from ebay 27$ get conf.email from dagi
The stylus, P602, had already been sent to you by post in Taiwan. The tracking number is. The website for tracking .Please enter the item of International Letters Tracking Service for the tracking. Normally, it takes 7~12 days for the delivery. We will keep following up the delivery process until you get it.
We have uploaded the related demo videos on YouTube and you can search them by the key words of "dagi stylus". Also, welcome to visit our website www.dagi.com.tw for our products in detail.
By the way, we have provided another stylus, P204, to you. It's the gift for you. If you have any comment on the stylus after getting it, please kindly let us know. We will always do our best for the improvement.
Last part i like very much hope one of them will work.I hope ill get it next week and write here if they are good.sorry for bad english

Motorola Stylus pen with Precision Tip
On Motorola site, it says that a Stylus pen with precision tip is becoming available soon. By its picture, it seems that it is indeed precise. On the compatibility tab, it says it is compatible with XYBoard only. Is XYBoard touchscreen different from Xoom? In my opinion, if it is compatible with Xoom, it is compatible with the SGT 10.1, isn't it?
Here's the link for the pen: http://goo.gl/1y6Pb

[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.

The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste

Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.

you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]

Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it

question about the stylus used in the above video
Cptnodegard said:
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.

verbaltech said:
Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology

Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.

does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...

Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously

I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

C-pen samsung

I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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vasp3690 said:
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.

How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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My thoughts exactly!

I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)

This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.

You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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CreekDirt said:
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.

I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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No. No buttons on it
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C pen a big failure
The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.

CreekDirt said:
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.

creon100 said:
The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.

CreekDirt said:
It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.

creon100 said:
Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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CreekDirt said:
I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
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I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.

Q about styluses: "pi"

There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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spexwood said:
There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.

buhohitr said:
pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.
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Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.

spexwood said:
Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.
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either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!

buhohitr said:
either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!
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Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.

spexwood said:
Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.
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For writing or drawing, you could buy one with the eraser(just like a pencil, one end with tip and the other end with eraser), kind of cool and convenience. It will save you time.

[Q] Good tablet for sketching?

Thinking about getting a tablet, preferably in the 8" range and that is capable of using apps like Manga Creator and Autodesk Sketchbook pro.
So far, I've seen the note has the pen included. I have a Wacom pen but I haven't see people using the Tab S as a drawing tablet.
However, I've seen lots of people using the Note 10.1 as a drawing tablet.
For those people who have used a stylus for sketching purposes, what do you think of it?

Is it possible to get a reply or at least point me towards the answer?

kornbone said:
Thinking about getting a tablet, preferably in the 8" range and that is capable of using apps like Manga Creator and Autodesk Sketchbook pro.
So far, I've seen the note has the pen included. I have a Wacom pen but I haven't see people using the Tab S as a drawing tablet.
However, I've seen lots of people using the Note 10.1 as a drawing tablet.
For those people who have used a stylus for sketching purposes, what do you think of it?
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If you are looking to use a Wacom pen, the Tab S is no good for you because it doesn't have a Wacom digitiser.
You need a Note, but I wouldn't buy any Note tablet as the line is really due a refresh.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
If you are looking to use a Wacom pen, the Tab S is no good for you because it doesn't have a Wacom digitiser.
You need a Note, but I wouldn't buy any Note tablet as the line is really due a refresh.
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks for the reply!
Would you recommend the Asus Vivotab 8"?
It comes with a Wacom digitizer and it's good for sketching on the go.

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Thanks for the reply!
Would you recommend the Asus Vivotab 8"?
It comes with a Wacom digitizer and it's good for sketching on the go.
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I couldn't recommend because I've never seen it. It's also a Windows 8 tablet.

The new Surface 3 (not the pro) is supposedly good for drawing, but the base price doesn't include the stylus.

snapper.fishes said:
The new Surface 3 (not the pro) is supposedly good for drawing, but the base price doesn't include the stylus.
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Initially I was looking at the Pros, and then at the RT versions, but I thought the Intel Atom processors were a bit weak for that. So far, I've heard mixed reviews about the Atom processor.

kornbone said:
Thinking about getting a tablet, preferably in the 8" range and that is capable of using apps like Manga Creator and Autodesk Sketchbook pro.
So far, I've seen the note has the pen included. I have a Wacom pen but I haven't see people using the Tab S as a drawing tablet.
However, I've seen lots of people using the Note 10.1 as a drawing tablet.
For those people who have used a stylus for sketching purposes, what do you think of it?
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Thanks for the reply!
Would you recommend the Asus Vivotab 8"?
It comes with a Wacom digitizer and it's good for sketching on the go.
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If you want to stick with android you should check out the Shield Tablet. It does not use a wacom digitizer but it does have a pen that works very well using a technology from Nvidia.

nrage23 said:
If you want to stick with android you should check out the Shield Tablet. It does not use a wacom digitizer but it does have a pen that works very well using a technology from Nvidia.
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Problem with the NVidia is that it is too focused on gaming, and the technology is not quite a digitizer, not even close.
The deal breaker is that it lacks pressure sensitivity.

kornbone said:
Problem with the NVidia is that it is too focused on gaming, and the technology is not quite a digitizer, not even close.
The deal breaker is that it lacks pressure sensitivity.
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I will have to say you are not right on that issue. I have a Samsung Note 4 and Note Pro 12.2 along with the Shield Tablet. The Shield Direct Stylus 2 is very close to the performance digitizing of the Note devices. It does have pressure sensitivity. Also the Nvidia K1 processor is much faster than the Note 4's Snapdragon 805 or the Note Pro 12.2's Exynos 5420. Here is a good article on the Direct Stylus 2.
http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-shield-tablet-directstylus-2-review-29338977/

NVIDIA’s DirectStylus 2 is arguably a similar compromise, but it’s a clever one. The pen itself is regular plastic with an angled rubber tip, and the magic is all in the software and algorithms. Running the touch processing through the Tegra K1 means it’s able to differentiate in real-time between the nib, your fingers, and your palm resting on the display. DirectStylus 2 can even feign pressure sensitivity, by measuring the contact point as the tip deforms against the screen
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I don't see how this can come even close to a digitizer for real drawing, it still just a thick pen that measures pressure by getting even thicker. But I haven't used it of course. Have you ever worked with an Wacom tablet on Windows (Photoshop for example), nrage23? I am curios if you maybe just find the Nvidia pen competive because most Android drawing software is limited.

TheGoD said:
I don't see how this can come even close to a digitizer for real drawing, it still just a thick pen that measures pressure by getting even thicker. But I haven't used it of course. Have you ever worked with an Wacom tablet on Windows (Photoshop for example), nrage23? I am curios if you maybe just find the Nvidia pen competive because most Android drawing software is limited.
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Nothing was said about digitizing in Windows with a Wacom digitizer. He asked about a tablet to sketch on.
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XP-Pen Star G640 Sketch Pad Tablet
Sketchbook is a great introductory program to get used to digital drawing. If you get serious about it, or just want a more robust drawing program, I'd recommend Clip Studio Paint. It's by far the best drawing program I've ever used. Think of the power of Photoshop, mixed with the realistic functionality of Sketchbook.
I can get pressure sensitivity to work with it. Using my XP-Pen Star G640 Sketch Pad Tablet ( xp-pen.com/product/51.html ) , latest driver. my XP-Pen Star G640 have a ~6"x4" active area, and I found that all of my stroke fit in there with ease, so I can manage with that size and save desk space.