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Kernal ??

Is it necessary to flash a Kernal after flashing a custom rom ?
I am thinking of flashing CM 9 or Liquid Rom. Which is the best kernal to flash with them.

-The correct spelling is kernel.
-It is not necessary to flash a new kernel with a rom. In general roms will package the stock kernel unless they note otherwise.
-I am personally a fan of leankernel because of the mission statement behind its development and the accessibility and speed of its update cycle.

Nope. Custom roms have kernels included, so you are not required to download a separate kernel. However, some kernels run better (ie, more fluid, less heat, reboots, etc) than others on the same device. It all depends on the silicon in your phone. If you plan to run cm9, I recommend sticking with the default kernel. If you're going with Liquid, use imoseyon's leankernel (the default) or franco kernels.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend franco's kernel app, especially if you are new to the scene. It can download & install either franco or imoseyon kernels, making kernel flashing stupid easy. It also lets you overclock & undervolt, change governors and tweak color settings. And it is the easiest way to keep up with nightly/experimental builds. Not to mention it shows your support and encourages more development.
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i say try them all, but for cm9 i recommend fugumod.
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Thanks you all for your suggestions ...
finally going to try Liquid Smooth 1.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555667)
along with Franco.Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341)
...... One last question Which Franco Kernel to flash there are Milestone 2, Milestone 1, Nightly ??? Whats the difference between them ?

Also when installing extras for liquid smooth do i need to wipe everything again .. I am new to this flashing stuff
and does Liquid Smooth comes with a kernel if so which one ?

Latest milestone is the most stable. Nightlies are experimental. And no need to wipe.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.

sublimaze said:
@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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thanks .... extremely useful info

Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash

cldwar said:
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.

bk201doesntexist said:
If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??

cldwar said:
those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.

Rcommander said:
doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
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Don't I need to get the boot loader etc back to orignal in order to receive the updates ... ? If so how ?
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Kernal?
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......

falconfan said:
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
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Use liquid rom with Franco milestone built ... gave me a 4+ hour screen time. Don't know why but the nightly version reduces battery life
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I'm running Liquid 1.3 and am using Franco nightly #143 and, so far, my battery life is really great. I was at 89% after 2 hours. I also want to try Milestone 3, that just came out yesterday and see how it performs.

looking for a good kitkat rom for elementalX kernel

Hey xda developers!
So guys i was really taken in by the ElementalX kernel and all the hard work that put into that project. I am in need of a rooted rom that is based on Android Kit Kat (4.4+).
Now i have tried putting the ElementalX kernel on Cyanogenmod 11 (nightly build 4.4.2) on my Nexus 7 2013 32GB wifi only model FLO build KRT16S but the kernel made the ROM for the most part unstable. After flashing the elementalX kernel on CM11 (wiped dalvik/cache) i would get this ugly blue color and blocks on black and pink on my N7 screen and then 3-4 minutes Cyanogenmod 11 would boot up. Now i can tell the kernel took because all of my icons changed color and i checked the kernel in settings
However, after flashing the ElementalX kernel on CM11 it was very very laggy. I have tried for the most part all options...
I tried low settings high settings, and all stock options which all ended in the same result -> laggy.
Okay so if Cyanogenmod 11 is not a good candidate for ElementalX (most likely was my fault but moving on) can one of you great guys or gals please let me know what KitKat based ROM you are using with your ElementalX kernel?
Requirements for ROM:
very simple...
has to be pre-rooted
has to be Kit Kat based
I really appreciate any input or advice you can offer me...
Also what settings are you using for your Nexus 7 with your ElementalX ROM?...
Maybe its just how i am setting up my kernel but i did try almost every option for Cyanogenmod 11 which is why i want to try and start testing other Kit Kat Based Roms.
Thank you all so much for your time and your assistance...
-droidshadow

CleanROM is a very good ROM to try before trying any others. It does not have a ton of features, actually very few, but it is fast and stable.
A lot of people run CR with ElementalX. (I do). It's the kernel that the CR dev recommends.
I also like Sinless ROM which has lots more options. But if this is your first custom ROM start with CLeanROM. The people in the CR Thread are very helpful if when you have questions.

Omni Custom Kernel?

Hi all, I was wondering if there are many Omni 6.0 user out there that would like to test a custom kernel. I currently have a custom kernel going for the OnePlus One that uses the same source. I don't have the device, but anything that could possibly be fatal would kill my treasured OPO first .
Thanks,
Yoooshi

Custom kernel are aways welcome, since Find 7 only had Despair Kernel and it was descontinued and no kernels so far to MM releases (CM and Omni). Thanks for your interest in Find 7 @YoshiShaPow =)

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Hi all, I was wondering if there are many Omni 6.0 user out there that would like to test a custom kernel. I currently have a custom kernel going for the OnePlus One that uses the same source. I don't have the device, but anything that could possibly be fatal would kill my treasured OPO first .
Thanks,
Yoooshi
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I'd love to test out a custom kernel. Miss being able to use one of those since despairis ccontinued and my old galaxy s2.

I have a find7a running omnirom. I will definitely test it

Didn't work on omni rom. Caused it to hang at the omni logo.

Best kernel

Hi everyone, I write this post because I would to know which is the best kernel for stability/battery life in one plus 3. I tried Elemental X months ago but I would also try Franco kernel which has a good reputation, what would you say?
Tell me about your experience
Thanks

There is no 'best' kernel... I found Render and Xceed to be really good while they are quite underrated.

This thread was here several times. Stop posting same threads over and over again...
And there is no best kernel. You chose a kernel based on your personal preferences, so nobody can recommend you any kernel because nobody knows what you expect from a kernel.

I flashed latest version of Franco kernel and battery life is really improved. I am in OOS 4.1.3.

Resurrection Remix + ElementalX Kernel + AKT 1.4.1 = good configuration, very good autonomy (according to the regalges)

One day i will try it, I just wanted to keep stock ROM, I also uncrypted it so I can use multirom if I would.

What ROM are you using and why?

I bought this phone and it's really great, I have nothing to complain about it....it's really too perfect
but....I was used to flash all the day, try stuff ecc....things are getting boring, my addiction is healing
I'm a stock guy because I feel stock rom+kernel performance more reliable and consistent, but maybe your experience could inspire me, and maybe others to try different things
Show your stuff!!
Thank you

For AOSP, best setup worked for me was ResurrectionRemix + mini gapps + tabp0le kernel coming with the rom, however in the last builds i got some performance issues are reverted back to sense based ROM. many people say Dirty Unicorns + Nebula kernel is a killer setup. but i didn't really like it because it didn't have pixel launcher and i don't know how to setup it tbh.
the best sense based ROM setup for me is Stock ROM + ElementalX + PnP mod by ivicask on balanced. i am using LeeDroid now + Stock kernel and sometimes i experience some lag not sure why but after a reboot it works perfectly. will try it with custom kernel.
trying ROMs on HTC 10 is good because most if not all of them work perfectly with phone and all of the issues you may face can be solved. just try many roms and see what's perfect for you.
here a sheet i made with all custom roms available for the 10
here

ICE and Leedroid to me feel more stable than stock ROMs on other phones. The 10 is extremely stable

Viper10
It's the most popular HTC ROM on XDA for a reason.
You can stay as close to stock as you want, tons of customization options if you want that instead, timely updates, and a strong community on the thread to help with any issues you may have.

AhmedouviX said:
For AOSP, best setup worked for me was ResurrectionRemix + mini gapps + tabp0le kernel coming with the rom, however in the last builds i got some performance issues are reverted back to sense based ROM. many people say Dirty Unicorns + Nebula kernel is a killer setup. but i didn't really like it because it didn't have pixel launcher and i don't know how to setup it tbh.
the best sense based ROM setup for me is Stock ROM + ElementalX + PnP mod by ivicask on balanced. i am using LeeDroid now + Stock kernel and sometimes i experience some lag not sure why but after a reboot it works perfectly. will try it with custom kernel.
trying ROMs on HTC 10 is good because most if not all of them work perfectly with phone and all of the issues you may face can be solved. just try many roms and see what's perfect for you.
here a sheet i made with all custom roms available for the 10
here
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Leedroid and ICE do not use stock kernel, they're including cleanSlate kernel with their builds (I think for mod reasons), so performance/stability issues should not be ROM faults IMO....Thank you anyway, I was thinking about trying ICE, it was my daily driver on M8, I'm just not sure about the kernel
gsw5700 said:
ICE and Leedroid to me feel more stable than stock ROMs on other phones. The 10 is extremely stable
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More stable than stock? wow haha is performance consistent?
xunholyx said:
Viper10
It's the most popular HTC ROM on XDA for a reason.
You can stay as close to stock as you want, tons of customization options if you want that instead, timely updates, and a strong community on the thread to help with any issues you may have.
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yes.....viper10.....you know, I always had this feeling.....the more mods you include, more the rom will be potentially unstable....and viper has damn tons of mods
The curious thing about viper ROM is that everytime I try it, it's damn smooth. don't know why. but again, it doesn't feel stable....I will try it anyway
thank you anyone

I use lineage os, I like frequent updates, I like the fact that's it's a WIP. It is good and gets better by the week. I like that is very up to date.

throcker said:
Leedroid and ICE do not use stock kernel, they're including cleanSlate kernel with their builds (I think for mod reasons), so performance/stability issues should not be ROM faults IMO....Thank you anyway, I was thinking about trying ICE, it was my daily driver on M8, I'm just not sure about the kernel
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the lag i get is in notification panel and i am pretty sure it's not a kernel thing because other than that the ROM is so smooth with 5hours SOT battery. i never tried ICE maybe i'll give it a try this week.

I use lineage, I only switched off stock because they were not releasing a security patch update every month, nor upgrading to the most recent version of android. I like keeping everything updated and its frustrating that you have to wait for them to do it rather than just getting it from google.

I used to be a flashing guy, the htc 10 maked me stop flashing by now, I gonna wait for U11 ports, I think stock rom is stable and wonderful.

Labeled said:
I use lineage, I only switched off stock because they were not releasing a security patch update every month, nor upgrading to the most recent version of android. I like keeping everything updated and its frustrating that you have to wait for them to do it rather than just getting it from google.
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Totally agree. Thankfully HTC 10 has massive support in terms of AOSP ROMS. I recommend you to try crDroid. It's so clean and simple with perfect performance and battery life

Resurrection remix with the custom kernel that comes with the ROM. I've tried mostly everything as my DD but I always come back to AOSP. I've tried lineage but it started to stutter.
Edit- I'm back on lineage and it's amazing.

necktru said:
I used to be a flashing guy, the htc 10 maked me stop flashing by now, I gonna wait for U11 ports, I think stock rom is stable and wonderful.
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Hmmm U11 ??. As far i know there is only rom based on stock and customised no one tried any port from Bolt or U Ultra so port from U11 first wee need to wait on official update to 7.1 lool ??
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