Stock vs CM - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is your opinion between cm and stock (preferring genysys rom right now)?
Some facts like performance, prettiness, camera and i would like to get lot of info of battery life (cuz im a maniac for battery, like sot, standby, on different factors...), and also your boot time.

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Getting my nexus next week

Just wanted to read some opinions on what are the best ROMS and kernel for the galaxy nexus LTE, I come from the Droid charge, I know a little about imoseyon and gummy team, but the rest are unknown to me. I always read cm9 roms are great, but there are a couple to choose from. Thanks in advanced!
Also, I use my Droid charge a lot for tethering and school so I need a mix of performance and battery life for the galaxy nexus.
AOKP is the team that's killing it right now IMO.
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Couple it with Franco's kernel.. battery life is just amazing.
Check the Dev section and see what suits ur taste
So is aokp better than CM9? Also there are different CM9, like I officials, unofficial and kangs, which ones do you think is better?
maurogg84 said:
So is aokp better than CM9? Also there are different CM9, like I officials, unofficial and kangs, which ones do you think is better?
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AOKP is the mod king right now. Pure CM-9 is close to stock, super fast and super clean. Just 2 different experiences. As a new Nexus user I'd recommend you hold off flashing custom roms for a few weeks just to experience stock ICS. It'll make you appreciate the different roms more by giving you the ability to contrast speed as well as modded features. Kernel wise, can't go wrong with Franco's or imoseyon.
My experiences:
AOKP-lots and lots of mods. A bit slower than stock, and good but not great on battery life.
CM-9-Very close to stock but faster. Better on battery life given the very clean code and lack of modded features.
Sent from CDMA GNexus w/CM-9 & franco.kernel
CM9 doesn't have the same level of customization as AOKP.
Idk how AOKP battery life is honestly, it doesn't seem that amazing from some screenshots I've seen.
I'm running liquidsmooth with Franco kernel and am getting amazing battery life.
Right now at 7 hours and 30 minutes on battery, with 1 hour 27 min of display time and listened to over 30 minutes of Music thru Google Play Music. Still have 74% battery left.
A few days ago, I got 3 hours and 20-ish minutes display time on over 11 hours on battery with 40% left of battery.
In a full day of usage I can get over 6 hours display time with heavier usage.
Aerocaptain said:
AOKP is the mod king right now. Pure CM-9 is close to stock, super fast and super clean. Just 2 different experiences. As a new Nexus user I'd recommend you hold off flashing custom roms for a few weeks just to experience stock ICS. It'll make you appreciate the different roms more by giving you the ability to contrast speed as well as modded features. Kernel wise, can't go wrong with Franco's or imoseyon.
My experiences:
AOKP-lots and lots of mods. A bit slower than stock, and good but not great on battery life.
CM-9-Very close to stock but faster. Better on battery life given the very clean code and lack of modded features.
Sent from CDMA GNexus w/CM-9 & franco.kernel
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Thanks that was the kind of response I was looking for. I really like lean roms because I can add whatever is missing later. I see you are using CM9, are using the official or the Kang?
pewpewbangbang said:
CM9 doesn't have the same level of customization as AOKP.
Idk how AOKP battery life is honestly, it doesn't seem that amazing from some screenshots I've seen.
I'm running liquidsmooth with Franco kernel and am getting amazing battery life.
Right now at 7 hours and 30 minutes on battery, with 1 hour 27 min of display time and listened to over 30 minutes of Music thru Google Play Music. Still have 74% battery left.
A few days ago, I got 3 hours and 20-ish minutes display time on over 11 hours on battery with 40% left of battery.
In a full day of usage I can get over 6 hours display time with heavier usage.
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That's some incredible battery life, I should take a look at your ROM/kernel combination. Since I tether a lot I had to buy the big 3800 batteries, I know it might look ugly but I hate swapping barrettes.
Since I've never tried ICS I'm going to taste it for a couple of days, then I'll try a couple of roms starting with cm9 then I'll try liquid smooth.

[Q] Battery life: stock VS custom roms and remedies

Hi guys!
I've been playing around with my GNex (GSM, stock 1750mAh battery) since last july and my biggest concern is (still) the battery life.
I've noticed that the couple stock rom + stock kernel (the ones the phone come with) is much better than any other custom rom+kernel.
Here comes my (maybe stupid) question: is the battery life somewhat related to the (de)odexed status of the rom?
I mean, I've been looking for all kinds of solutions to take advantage of those features offered by AOKP or PA without suffering from BL issues, but I find silly to sacrifice stability/smoothness/responsiveness/always-on-connection/brightness/whatsoever to gain not that many mins of juice. And I really wonder what is the sourcery Google adopts to make its roms so stable, responsive and battery friendly (e.g. no custom rom/kernel can achieve as much BL as the stock ones). Put differently, with the stock rom/kernel, I can leave 3G always on, auto-sync always on, haptic feedbacks on, location services always on (but GPS) and the battery survives for more than 24h; while, with custom roms/kernels, I could switch everything in the list off and still the battery wouldn't last that long (ceteris paribus).
Could you, please, explain me how it works?
Is there really no way to improve BL other than those listed above?
And, finally, does odexing the system apps (on custom roms) do the trick?
Cheers!
P.s.: the answers I'm looking for may already be in other threads.
If so, I apologize, but I tried googling different keywords many times, and got no interesting results.
For me the biggest source of battery drain is the screen by far. Maybe you enjoy custom ROMs more than the stock one and you keep the screen on more I would think that a custom ROM would be more battery friendly. Which ROMs have you tried?
Endriu90 said:
Hi guys!
I've been playing around with my GNex (GSM, stock 1750mAh battery) since last july and my biggest concern is (still) the battery life.
I've noticed that the couple stock rom + stock kernel (the ones the phone come with) is much better than any other custom rom+kernel.
Here comes my (maybe stupid) question: is the battery life somewhat related to the (de)odexed status of the rom?
I mean, I've been looking for all kinds of solutions to take advantage of those features offered by AOKP or PA without suffering from BL issues, but I find silly to sacrifice stability/smoothness/responsiveness/always-on-connection/brightness/whatsoever to gain not that many mins of juice. And I really wonder what is the sourcery Google adopts to make its roms so stable, responsive and battery friendly (e.g. no custom rom/kernel can achieve as much BL as the stock ones). Put differently, with the stock rom/kernel, I can leave 3G always on, auto-sync always on, haptic feedbacks on, location services always on (but GPS) and the battery survives for more than 24h; while, with custom roms/kernels, I could switch everything in the list off and still the battery wouldn't last that long (ceteris paribus).
Could you, please, explain me how it works?
Is there really no way to improve BL other than those listed above?
And, finally, does odexing the system apps (on custom roms) do the trick?
Cheers!
P.s.: the answers I'm looking for may already be in other threads.
If so, I apologize, but I tried googling different keywords many times, and got no interesting results.
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Thats strange, to me battery life is better with custom ROMs and kernels
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sirxdroid said:
For me the biggest source of battery drain is the screen by far. Maybe you enjoy custom ROMs more than the stock one and you keep the screen on more I would think that a custom ROM would be more battery friendly. Which ROMs have you tried?
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Lol, maybe you're right!
Until now, I tried AOKP and PA roms and franco, AirKernel, GlaDOS and stock kernels (all possible combinations). I found that PA and GlaDOS are the best custom couple, but still not comparable with the factory ones.
However, even tough I have no technical numbers, the usage on custom stuff had been more or less the same as on stock things (although I became a pie-control addict). And what I know for sure, the BL gap is mostly due to screen (i.e. by staring at the launcher home screen for 5 minutes, the battery drains faster with custom roms than with stock roms - still, ceteris paribus).
NexusS4gFreak said:
Thats strange, to me battery life is better with custom ROMs and kernels
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I know that's strange. Things used to work as you say with my HTC Desire. But since I've switched to the Nexus S (and then to the GNex), I strongly preferred stock stuff just because of battery life
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Battery life

When you flash to a ROM that has less battery life and flash back to the stock ROM do you retain the original battery life or is it decreased by a percentage overall
josephh71 said:
When you flash to a ROM that has less battery life and flash back to the stock ROM do you retain the original battery life or is it decreased by a percentage overall
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I'm not sure what exactly the question means, but if you are at 60% on... say, AOKP, then flash TouchWiz, you should be at 60% minus whatever it took to flash the new ROM. As far as how long the battery will last; there are too many things to take into account to give a definite answer whether your battery life on one ROM will be the same as on another.
Thanks
lordcheeto03 said:
I'm not sure what exactly the question means, but if you are at 60% on... say, AOKP, then flash TouchWiz, you should be at 60% minus whatever it took to flash the new ROM. As far as how long the battery will last; there are too many things to take into account to give a definite answer whether your battery life on one ROM will be the same as on another.
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It seems as if my battery is dying faster since I flashed back to the stock ROM than it did prior to flashing another ROM
Your battery doesn't change when you flash ROMs. You will have higher battery drain on a stock ROM, compared to say a ROM like SlimBean. Another factor is what features you have enabled on the stock TW ROM like gestures and smart stay etc.
But more to your question, flashing ROMs does not change your battery. Your battery is your battery, that's it.
ROM/Kernel/usage among other variables are what effect battery life.
thanks
dynospectrum said:
Your battery doesn't change when you flash ROMs. You will have higher battery drain on a stock ROM, compared to say a ROM like SlimBean. Another factor is what features you have enabled on the stock TW ROM like gestures and smart stay etc.
But more to your question, flashing ROMs does not change your battery. Your battery is your battery, that's it.
ROM/Kernel/usage among other variables are what effect battery life.
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thank you

Stock TW based ROMs vs AOSP - battery comparison

For those that have tried AOSP based ROMs and kernels for Note 3, how has the battery life compared to TW ROMs? I know "Android System" probably doesn't use 25% of battery as is the case for TW Roms usually. Whether the battery usage % lines up for not, it doesn't really matter as I don't really have an issue with battery life on TW ROMs, I'm just curious.
dirrtyswan said:
For those that have tried AOSP based ROMs and kernels for Note 3, how has the battery life compared to TW ROMs? I know "Android System" probably doesn't use 25% of battery as is the case for TW Roms usually. Whether the battery usage % lines up for not, it doesn't really matter as I don't really have an issue with battery life on TW ROMs, I'm just curious.
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I believe that a stock AOSP kernel help to improve the battery a lot more... or compulsion 12 for the note 3 touchwiz
dirrtyswan said:
For those that have tried AOSP based ROMs and kernels for Note 3, how has the battery life compared to TW ROMs? I know "Android System" probably doesn't use 25% of battery as is the case for TW Roms usually. Whether the battery usage % lines up for not, it doesn't really matter as I don't really have an issue with battery life on TW ROMs, I'm just curious.
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I have used both AOSP and touchwiz and for the most part, the touchwiz roms have SLIGHTLY better battery life. Starting out, AOSP was dreadful in battery drain but the latest builds in various roms in combination with the latest versions of certain kernels (temesek,lean,etc) have brought the battery lives much closer. They both have the potential to sleep like babies, and you can get great varying battery lives.

Best Custom Rom for Stability and Battery

Hello,
What Custom Rom you guys think its best for Battery Life and Stability?
I've been using CM11 for the last few months and now im Trying Omnirom. They are both stable and use the same battery.
I cannot try every rom, so im asking here for your opinion.
I very much doubt battery life would be any different because of ROM version.
It has more to do with individual usage patterns
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BT On/active/streaming
Brightness level/Auto
Data On/updates/push services
Calls talk time
Text/chat apps
Wi-Fi/Hotspot on/active
I'd say if your getting nearly 2h's of screen on time then the ROM is just fine.
There may be others getting more, but it all depends on how you use your device.
I don't mind charging my phone 2-3 times throughout the day(to help keep it topped up), I don't use Wi-Fi since I have unlimited data, unless it's for a large occasional download (testing new ROM/apps) have auto app updates and push services on) and leave BT on to automatically connect to my car stereo and start streaming music and also always leave auto brightness on.
Personally, I have tried lot's of different Custom Roms, and to be honest, none of them are as good as Stock 4.3 in terms of battery life and stability. Yes, other ROMs offer additional features and Android Versions that would otherwise be unavailable, but are mostly less stable, more laggy and have worse battery life. If you want customisation, you can root and use Xposed Framework.
That said!.. the best custom ROM that I have used is both FML Kitkat and FML Lollipop by MWisBest.
adamgraver said:
Personally, I have tried lot's of different Custom Roms, and to be honest, none of them are as good as Stock 4.3 in terms of battery life and stability... ...That said!.. the best custom ROM that I have used is both FML Kitkat and FML Lollipop by MWisBest.
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Recently I went back to 4.2.2 (Verizon) because no roms I could find had decent battery life. I started using greenify to help with memory, as I find that soon as it gets to about 100mb free, the lag is terrible.
So in your opinion FML Kitkat vs stock on battery is worse? I briefly tried FML Lolipop but felt it was too early in dev and buggy
thx,
riz
Screensaver.tv said:
Recently I went back to 4.2.2 (Verizon) because no roms I could find had decent battery life. I started using greenify to help with memory, as I find that soon as it gets to about 100mb free, the lag is terrible.
So in your opinion FML Kitkat vs stock on battery is worse? I briefly tried FML Lolipop but felt it was too early in dev and buggy
thx,
riz
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Yeah, I've always found that stock Jelly Bean has the best battery life. But your experiences may vary with usage.
I have used CM11, PA, Shiny ROM and FML so far. I cannot compare them to stock, since I haven't used stock due to lack of customization features.
IMO, Shiny ROM + Dirty V Kernel with Nephilim's settings had the best battery life. On standby, my phone ran for more than 2 days without a single charge. Performance was decent, although I wouldn't say that it was ideal.
I'm currently running on the latest FML Lollipop + Smitty L Kernel with Nephilim's settings. The battery life is decent, with about a day and a half standby time. Performance is fantastic. If you value both battery life AND performance, you might as well give this a try, as it is definitely worth the effort.

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