It may be a stupid question but I found 1 thing, about the bootloader, confusing:
When the M beta was released in the dedicated thread was written that the updating process to M locks the bootloader.
Now that M is released to root it we have to update from L to M and then fastboot boot twrp.img and apparently this command requires an unlocked bootloader (I've read this in a nexus thread).
The question is: if the update locks the bootloader how comes we need to unlock it in L?
What is the difference between a locked phone updated from L to M and a phone unlocked in L and then updated to M? Shouldn't both the phones have a locked bootloader?
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Fastboot FLASH twrp requires an unlocked bootloader (that's installing permanent twrp) fastboot BOOT twrp (tethered twrp) does not.
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I know that, but the command doesn't say flash, it says boot, so it's like (or at least it looks like) the tethered recovery we're using for L. Yet they say to unlock before updating, or downgrade + unlock + upgrade.
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Ah, I misread your post. That actually is a good question!
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Yes i also wondered why too(unlocked bootloader in L) but that was in description to have unlocked bootloader in L before flashing beta 6 MM to gain root or the script wouldnt work.
Not too sure if this is the same with new official MM maybe someone can explain more ?
I was about to ask the exact same question. Shakalaca method for rooting (Unlocked L > MM upgrade > root + xposed through tethered TWRP) ends up with a LOCKED bootloader (he say so in OP). This method works for OFFICIAL BETA (4.21.40.61).
Quang Boom's rooting video ends up with MM root and UNLOCKED bootloader.
Do Shakalaca's method works with OFFICIAL FINAL MM (i.e. 4.21.40.134)? Some say yes, others say no. I'm confused.
And a lot of people are saying they succeeded with a locked bl
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distant_thunder_89 said:
Quang Boom's rooting video ends up with MM root and UNLOCKED bootloader.
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Can you post the link for this video? Thanks.
I unlocked the official mm with quang booms files he linked in YouTube, rooting is then possible with his signed twrp...
https://youtu.be/fDls4gLyusY
Guys, after some research I came to the conclusion that is not possible in MM to have both root and a locked BL.
I decided to upgrade nonetheless, if some issue arise which would require RMA we can always downgrade and use the LP relock to get warranty back (the LP relock is in the asus forum).
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I unlocked the official mm with quang booms files he linked in YouTube, rooting is then possible with his signed twrp...
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Well this dude just made a video of himself using shakalaka's method for the beta (unlock android beta by shakalaka, 3d by samcjtsai), I just confronted the hashes for the files you can download from the YouTube page with those for the files from that 3d and they are the same, same method, same files.
But let's not make this a "how to root post", there's plenty of informations on here.
I'm just interested in the bootloader thing, if someone can explain.
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I saw a few posts with solutions how to root newest FW (autoroot, root using recovery) but I don't have unlocked BL and I can't unlock it because my phone doesn't fastboot.
So is there a tricky way (I know how to use ADB so I won't have a problem with it if there's a solution using it) how to root newest fw for those with locked BL?
Please, don't offtop if you don't have nothing smart to say.
romcio47 said:
I saw a few posts with solutions how to root newest FW (autoroot, root using recovery) but I don't have unlocked BL and I can't unlock it because my phone doesn't fastboot.
So is there a tricky way (I know how to use ADB so I won't have a problem with it if there's a solution using it) how to root newest fw for those with locked BL?
Please, don't offtop if you don't have nothing smart to say.
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Check this thread out on how to make fastboot work, will cost a little of money, but taking from the guys already done it's worth it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232050
Regards Dousan...
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Check this thread out on how to make fastboot work, will cost a little of money, but taking from the guys already done it's worth it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232050
Regards Dousan...
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Yeah but what if we don't want to unlock the bootloader...flashing won't work cuz the update isn't OTA. What is this Recovery mode everyone is talking about?
I don't think you can flash a firmware through recovery AKA clockwork mod
To use recovery aka clock work mod you need to use fastboot to boot recovery play IMG, and flash a custom ROM like Dalvik2Cache
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Fokezy said:
Yeah but what if we don't want to unlock the bootloader...flashing won't work cuz the update isn't OTA. What is this Recovery mode everyone is talking about?
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Only way to get root with locked bootloader is by ota if available.
With unlocked bootlaoder you can do by several ways, for example flash pre-rooted DoomLord's kernel.
Thanks for every reply. I don't need root for now, I just wanted to ask if it's possible
BTW newest FW is awesome
romcio47 said:
I saw a few posts with solutions how to root newest FW (autoroot, root using recovery) but I don't have unlocked BL and I can't unlock it because my phone doesn't fastboot.
So is there a tricky way (I know how to use ADB so I won't have a problem with it if there's a solution using it) how to root newest fw for those with locked BL?
Please, don't offtop if you don't have nothing smart to say.
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Yes you can simple re-flash to 2.3.2 root with gingerbreak and do an OTA update and you'll keep your root running 2.3.3 gingerbread rooted 4.0.A.2.368 R00i with locked bootloader...
You can use the new zergrush exploit, I heard that it works on 2.3.3
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Fokezy said:
You can use the new zergrush exploit, I heard that it works on 2.3.3
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It does http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Hi Guys, sorry for this noobish question
I have unlocked my bootloader R800i and rooted it using fastboot method
My question is, if i relock my bootloader, will i lose my root and will i be able to do OTA update for ICS coming end of April?
RezaFaliq said:
Hi Guys, sorry for this noobish question
I have unlocked my bootloader R800i and rooted it using fastboot method
My question is, if i relock my bootloader, will i lose my root and will i be able to do OTA update for ICS coming end of April?
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You can have root without unlocked bootloader
but It makes me wonder why you would revert back to locked?
just wait for someone to make a ROM / nandroid and flash the new file lol.
OTA is for people who aren't used to fooling with there device
apparently i tried rooting but i cant root without unlocking bootloader, only after i unlocked the bootloader i manage to get root
so it is advisable to just keep my unlock bootloader and flash new roms using Flashtool?
RezaFaliq said:
apparently i tried rooting but i cant root without unlocking bootloader, only after i unlocked the bootloader i manage to get root
so it is advisable to just keep my unlock bootloader and flash new roms using Flashtool?
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If you want a practically guaranteed method of rooting, yes that would be easiest. FTFs only come out like 1-2 weeks at most after the update is sent out anyway
ok, this is driving me crazy. had every nexus except the 6, got the 5x. unlocked bootloader, ok. flash twrp. cool. install root files, great. set up android pay, denied due to unlocked boot loader. went to lock boot loader... wants to do a factory reset.... ok..... now it just boot loops in twrp formats cache, and phone gives errors about corrupt system, different system, blah blah. so right now im bootloader unlocked, rooted with twrp. how is everyone relocking the boot loader?
You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
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You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
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yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Important: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
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From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
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thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
dwreck420 said:
thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
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It plainly says:
mportant: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
dwreck420 said:
yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
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The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
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The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
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well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
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It plainly says:
If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
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does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
dwreck420 said:
well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
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Oh, that sounds pretty cool actually.
I don't use Android Pay but I know you do not need a locked bootloader to get it working. Which version of SuperSU did you install? Cuz every time I see a 5X user with working Android Pay, they have systemless root and even a custom rom. I am pretty certain that I read that you just need to delete /SU/xbin_bind to get Android Pay working with systemless root.
Edit: I've seen it mentioned in the SuperSU thread I think, but it is explicitly mentioned in this Nexus 6P Android Pay thread
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does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
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Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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thanks for the clarification.
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thanks for the clarification.
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No problem. Sorry if I came across a bit hostile. I may have been up too late last night.
Android Pay is also working on some ROMs. Cataclysm for one. PureNexus will be comparable next update too.
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I recently Rooted my LG G4. I did it using the RootJunkys video using Download Mode and Coms etc
I am successfully rooted. Have TWRP Installed
(Never unlocked Bootloader) (Video didn't show)
Now whenever I try and Flash CM13 I get "Error Executing Binaries etc"
I read it's due to incompatible Bootloader.
Would my bootloader not being unlocked be the issue? If so is there any tutorial how to Unlock Bootloader.
Running 1110N Software Version
How did you even managed to install twrp? The bootloader unlocked is a must. But only H815 can be bootloader unlocked, if you don't have h815 you have to wait until our Devs find different way to unlock it
I used Flashify. To Install TWRP
For Root I used COM Port and Command Prompt while Phone was in Download Mode
EpiphanyofMusic said:
I recently Rooted my LG G4. I did it using the RootJunkys video using Download Mode and Coms etc
I am successfully rooted. Have TWRP Installed
(Never unlocked Bootloader) (Video didn't show)
Now whenever I try and Flash CM13 I get "Error Executing Binaries etc"
I read it's due to incompatible Bootloader.
Would my bootloader not being unlocked be the issue? If so is there any tutorial how to Unlock Bootloader.
Running 1110N Software Version
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Dude you are posting in the wrong forum. You are on old firmware you need to update to the new marshmallow firmware for CM13. Go to the T-Mobile G4 forum and follow the instructions in autoprimes 20i thread.
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My apologies! Thank you!
i got asus zenfone 2 ww.194 z00a
maor23 said:
i got asus zenfone 2 ww.194 z00a
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Assuming that you unlock the bootloader, root the phone and change the splash screen....
Reboot the phone.....
If Asus logo splash screen is black your bootloader is locked.
If Asus logo splash screen is white your bootloader is unlocked.
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Assuming that you unlock the bootloader, root the phone and change the splash screen....
Reboot the phone.....
If Asus logo splash screen is black your bootloader is locked.
If Asus logo splash screen is white your bootloader is unlocked.
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is black
so i do i unlock the bootloader?
maor23 said:
is black
so i do i unlock the bootloader?
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Why do you want to unlock the bootloader?
For the time being, there is no way to unlock the bootloader in MM. May be in the near future.
If you want to unlock the bootloader in MM, you need to temporarily downgrade the bootloader to Lollipop, unlock the bootloader and upgrade back to MM by the patched bootloader.
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Why do you want to unlock the bootloader?
For the time being, there is no way to unlock the bootloader in MM. May be in the near future.
If you want to unlock the bootloader in MM, you need to temporarily downgrade the bootloader to Lollipop, unlock the bootloader and upgrade back to MM by the patched bootloader.
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i understood that if i want to upgrate to MM from LP i need a twrp and unlocked bootloader no?
maor23 said:
i understood that if i want to upgrate to MM from LP i need a twrp and unlocked bootloader no?
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Yes
maor23 said:
i understood that if i want to upgrate to MM from LP i need a twrp and unlocked bootloader no?
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No.
To upgrade to MM from LP your firmware has to be at least 184.
You can use OTA or download the MM from ASUS site and install the MM in ADB environment with adb sideload command.
Do not upgrade MM via TWRP. MM install package does not compatible with TWRP. However, there is guide to modified the installation script in order to work with TWRP. The guide was written a year ago for Lollipop .
If your intention is to use custom rom in MM then you need an unlocked bootloader with custom recovery like TWRP.
In that case you need to unlock the bootloader in lollipop before you upgrade to MM. Like I said, there is no direct way to unlock bootloader in MM.
If your intention is to have rooted MM, then you do not need to unlock the bootloader.
You do not need to install the TWRP. You can use tethered TWRP to flash the super su zip file.
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No.
To upgrade to MM from LP your firmware has to be at least 184.
You can use OTA or download the MM from ASUS site and install the MM in ADB environment with adb sideload command.
Do not upgrade MM via TWRP. MM install package does not compatible with TWRP. However, there is guide to modified the installation script in order to work with TWRP. The guide was written a year ago for Lollipop .
If your intention is to use custom rom in MM then you need an unlocked bootloader with custom recovery like TWRP.
In that case you need to unlock the bootloader in lollipop before you upgrade to MM. Like I said, there is no direct way to unlock bootloader in MM.
If your intention is to have rooted MM, then you do not need to unlock the bootloader.
You do not need to install the TWRP. You can use tethered TWRP to flash the super su zip file.
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hey man, thanks for the answer.
i did succsessfuly upgrade to MM, but i cant now root my phone..
do you know how can i root my phone
maor23 said:
hey man, thanks for the answer.
i did succsessfuly upgrade to MM, but i cant now root my phone..
do you know how can i root my phone
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I answered your question in the other post.