Hi
I want to get my hands on the HTC One M8. I've saw it on Ebay for 158.88 euros so about 180 USD.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/HTC-One-M8-Phone-Android-5-Full-HD-32GB-Dual-4MP-Camera-NFC-LTE-Unlocked-argent-/371682565442?hash=item568a01dd42:g:tOYAAOSwyKxXh8Wb
Is it legit ?
I've asked the vendor to check with variant it is.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Darktitor said:
I've asked the vendor to check with variant it is.
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No way to tell from the listing, that its legit. The text looks to be cut and paste, generic specs, aside from the fact that the item is claimed to be new, original packaging, and factory SIM unlocked.
What is more concerning, is the bands listed (as supported by the device) in the top part , don't match what is listed down below the pics.
3G: HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
4G: LTE 700/850/1900/2100 Mhz
versus
3G : HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 Mhz
4G : LTE 700 / 850 / 1900 / 2100/ 2600 Mhz
Further adding to the confusion, is that the bands listed in the top part correspond to Euro or Asia version for 3G, but the LTE bands listed come close to the AT&T version (although 2600 is missing, but maybe its a typo). Lower in the listing, the bands supported correspond to T-Mobile version for 3G, but LTE bands listed correspond to the AT&T version.
Frankly, the listing is a mess, and any guess what version you will get. Especially since it currently lists 11 available, so who knows if they are even all the same or different versions.
Vendor has a decent rating. We'll see what they responds with, and see if they know what they are taking about. But from the listing, it doesn't seem that they do.
This may be a stretch, but I'd ask if they are willing to open the box, and send photos of the following:
1) Bootloader screen text (power on the phone to bootloader mode)
2) Photo of the back cover text, near the bottom
3) Photo of the box label that shows model number
Additionally we've seen a lot of vendors selling hacked (to be debranded) US versions of the M8, and then claimed to be new. So phones that have been made s-off, CID and MID changed, so that Euro firmware can be installed, and the phones sometimes even have the back covers physically removed, and replaced with other ones that don't have US carrier logos. So sometimes, you can't even go by the model number on the back cover, as it doesn't match what is inside the phone (which can be determined with fastboot getvar all).
Moral of the story, its hard to know what you are going to get. I'd tread carefully, and only proceed if the vendor can give you some good information about what you are getting; and a good return/refund policy if it doesn't match what they have claimed.
redpoint73 said:
No way to tell from the listing, that its legit. The text looks to be cut and paste, generic specs, aside from the fact that the item is claimed to be new, original packaging, and factory SIM unlocked.
What is more concerning, is the bands listed (as supported by the device) in the top part , don't match what is listed down below the pics.
3G: HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
4G: LTE 700/850/1900/2100 Mhz
versus
3G : HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 Mhz
4G : LTE 700 / 850 / 1900 / 2100/ 2600 Mhz
Further adding to the confusion, is that the bands listed in the top part correspond to Euro or Asia version for 3G, but the LTE bands listed come close to the AT&T version (although 2600 is missing, but maybe its a typo). Lower in the listing, the bands supported correspond to T-Mobile version for 3G, but LTE bands listed correspond to the AT&T version.
Frankly, the listing is a mess, and any guess what version you will get. Especially since it currently lists 11 available, so who knows if they are even all the same or different versions.
Vendor has a decent rating. We'll see what they responds with, and see if they know what they are taking about. But from the listing, it doesn't seem that they do.
This may be a stretch, but I'd ask if they are willing to open the box, and send photos of the following:
1) Bootloader screen text (power on the phone to bootloader mode)
2) Photo of the back cover text, near the bottom
3) Photo of the box label that shows model number
Additionally we've seen a lot of vendors selling hacked (to be debranded) US versions of the M8, and then claimed to be new. So phones that have been made s-off, CID and MID changed, so that Euro firmware can be installed, and the phones sometimes even have the back covers physically removed, and replaced with other ones that don't have US carrier logos. So sometimes, you can't even go by the model number on the back cover, as it doesn't match what is inside the phone (which can be determined with fastboot getvar all).
Moral of the story, its hard to know what you are going to get. I'd tread carefully, and only proceed if the vendor can give you some good information about what you are getting; and a good return/refund policy if it doesn't match what they have claimed.
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Hi
Thanks a lot for your reply
Is there a danger if it's an hacked US version ? Does it makes an issues with OTA or things like that?
Their return policy : If I don't like the product I have to pay 25% of the value of the product to send it back to them and get refund :/
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@redpoint73
Here's their reply
"The phone is new, in sealed package. The phone is original phone."
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Is there a danger if it's an hacked US version ? Does it makes an issues with OTA or things like that?
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It depends on what variant, and how it was hacked.
If its a US CDMA variant (Verizon, Sprint) it can never be fully converted to other firmware, and will never get an OTA.
AT&T or T-Mob versions may be properly converted to other version (such as Euro or Asia) with s-off, and will get corresponding OTAs.
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Their return policy : If I don't like the product I have to pay 25% of the value of the product to send it back to them and get refund :/
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If this applies, even in cases where the product doesn't match the description; then I'd say that is a terrible policy.
Darktitor said:
Here's their reply
"The phone is new, in sealed package. The phone is original phone."
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This tells you nothing about what version of the M8 you will get (or you can expect to get). Based on the complete lack of info (and confusing/contradictory info in the auction), I'd pass on this listing.
redpoint73 said:
It depends on what variant, and how it was hacked.
If its a US CDMA variant (Verizon, Sprint) it can never be fully converted to other firmware, and will never get an OTA.
AT&T or T-Mob versions may be properly converted to other version (such as Euro or Asia) with s-off, and will get corresponding OTAs.
If this applies, even in cases where the product doesn't match the description; then I'd say that is a terrible policy.
This tells you nothing about what version of the M8 you will get (or you can expect to get). Based on the complete lack of info (and confusing/contradictory info in the auction), I'd pass on this listing.
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Thanks a lot for your reply
About the conversion he told me that the M8 support LTE Band 20 and that's only for the International Version right ?
Return policy : Yeah I think
After some others mails they just told me that everything was OEM with original sealed box
I'm confused
Darktitor said:
About the conversion he told me that the M8 support LTE Band 20 and that's only for the International Version right ?
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As far as I know, yes that is correct.
Darktitor said:
After some others mails they just told me that everything was OEM with original sealed box
I'm confused
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Confused by what? It may well be original and sealed. The listing is obviously in error, and probably due to multiple cut/paste mistakes.
redpoint73 said:
As far as I know, yes that is correct.
Confused by what? It may well be original and sealed. The listing is obviously in error, and probably due to multiple cut/paste mistakes.
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So do you recommend me to go for it or not ?
Darktitor said:
So do you recommend me to go for it or not ?
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Its your decision, in the end.
I personally would never buy from a vendor that won't refund all of your money, if the item doesn't match the description.
And the info in the description contradicts itself. So at a minimum, this vendor is sloppy at their job; and doesn't seem to have a full understanding of the device specs. Is that really the kind of vendor you want to give your hard-earned money to?
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Hi friends, these days buy a samsung nexus I9250 galaxy, but I wanted something:
1. few versions of the galaxy samsung nexus there?
2. There is a version that supports GSM networks lte? which is?
3. i9250 model supports HSPA + 21?
4. i9250 model that handles frequencies in HSPA +?
There are 2 versions.
1) CDMA/LTE on Verizon Wireless USA only. Model i515
2) GSM/HSPA+ (21mbps radio). Pentaband (works on any GSM carrier). Model i9250
And that's it! There are no GSM/LTE models.
i9250t provided by Telstra an Australian service provider.
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zeekiz said:
i9250t provided by Telstra an Australian service provider.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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in what frecuency works the I9250t?
jamm513 said:
in what frecuency works the I9250t?
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As I noted in my post... they all support the same frequencies. Its pentaband GSM it'll work on any GSM network in the world.
For your reference so you can stop asking: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus_id5595
I'm not sure, take expansys for example:
USA:
Network: HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps 850/900/1900/1700/2100 / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
UK:
Network: HSPA/WCDMA Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz / HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
*Also, on Samsung web SAR page, there:
GT-I9250 GT-I9250J GT-I9250M GT-I9250T
from here:
http://www.samsung.com/sar/sarMain?site_cd=&prd_mdl_name=9250&selNatCd=US&languageCode=EN
So maybe there 4 different variant, also there a SC-04D for Japan,
SHW-M420S and M420K for Korea.
somebody have to check it , also the nexus S have plenty of variants, so I see nothing new here, but just go for standard GT-I9250 as it's pentaband 3G that will work in any country , BTW I dunno if GT-I9250* go with other build thank "yakju", not that it will do anything with the frequencies as it's software, but if you think of it, with other devices there mostly 2 main variants, 1 for Europe, and 1 for Americas, sometime also for China, and other regions. Anyone can get more info about it?
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I'm not sure, take expansys for example:
USA:
Network: HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps 850/900/1900/1700/2100 / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
UK:
Network: HSPA/WCDMA Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz / HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
*Also, on Samsung web SAR page, there:
GT-I9250 GT-I9250J GT-I9250M GT-I9250T
from here:
http://www.samsung.com/sar/sarMain?site_cd=&prd_mdl_name=9250&selNatCd=US&languageCode=EN
So maybe there 4 different variant, also there a SC-04D for Japan,
SHW-M420S and M420K for Korea.
somebody have to check it , also the nexus S have plenty of variants, so I see nothing new here, but just go for standard GT-I9250 as it's pentaband 3G that will work in any country , BTW I dunno if GT-I9250* go with other build thank "yakju", not that it will do anything with the frequencies as it's software, but if you think of it, with other devices there mostly 2 main variants, 1 for Europe, and 1 for Americas, sometime also for China, and other regions. Anyone can get more info about it?
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It doesn't matter what variation it is, a GSM phone will work on GSM networks and a LTE phone on all LTE networks. (unlocked, of course)
GSM and LTE have completely different frequencies so a GSM phone will not work on LTE networks and vice versa.
PS. HSDPA+ has nothing to do with the phone itself but if the network you are on provides you with it.
E15i said:
I'm not sure, take expansys for example:
USA:
Network: HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps 850/900/1900/1700/2100 / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
UK:
Network: HSPA/WCDMA Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz / HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
*Also, on Samsung web SAR page, there:
GT-I9250 GT-I9250J GT-I9250M GT-I9250T
from here:
http://www.samsung.com/sar/sarMain?site_cd=&prd_mdl_name=9250&selNatCd=US&languageCode=EN
So maybe there 4 different variant, also there a SC-04D for Japan,
SHW-M420S and M420K for Korea.
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Its all just semantics and slightly different radio software. They are all the same. You can use ANY i9250 model on ANY GSM carrier in the world. Read my first post it gives you all the information you need in practicality.
The i9250 is regularly for sale from dozens of resellers. Just buy one ffs.
What did you mean by Its all just semantics and slightly different radio software?
you mean it's possible to disable some of the frequencies with flashing different radio? from what I learned here, software have nothing to do with the frequencies that device supports, only hardware (antennas) matters here. also the other variants, are made for specific operators, so a normal i9520 wins, as you not depend on Samsung or the operator for OTA updates, also I'm not sure if let say J variant get OTA with "yakju".
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What did you mean by Its all just semantics and slightly different radio software?
you mean it's possible to disable some of the frequencies with flashing different radio? from what I learned here, software have nothing to do with the frequencies that device supports, only hardware (antennas) matters here. also the other variants, are made for specific operators, so a normal i9520 wins, as you not depend on Samsung or the operator for OTA updates, also I'm not sure if let say J variant get OTA with "yakju".
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Not hardware radio, software radio. The different variants (yakju** models) have slightly different radio software for the regions they're originally sold in. All i9250 models support the same GSM frequencies.
These models aren't necessarily made for specific carriers but specific regions. Any i9250 can be flashed to yakju with images from Google if you prefer. You will receive OTAs either way, but may receive them slightly faster if you choose to flash to yakju.
Long story short, you shouldn't care. Just buy the cheapest one you can get, because if it doesn't come with yakju out of the box, it takes about ~5minutes to flash it to yakju and be the exact same (and no this doesn't require root or anything, you just unlock your bootloader and flash images, then it is completely stock).
So just to drive it home again: ANY i9250 you buy will work on ANY carrier in the world. The hardware is the same, and the software may be slightly different, but 100% changeable to your liking. Just buy the phone.
Ok, and I guess, lock the bootloader after?
I also buy it soon, and I also want to use "yakju" build, but dont want to root or unlock bootloader, but there is no way to flash "yakju" without unlock the bootloader?
*sigh*
Jesus christ what happened to the experimental Nexus spirit?
Why on earth even get this phone if you are afraid of touching it?
It's a phone designed to be ****ed with and still be bootable with code hosted outside it if you **** it up completely. It's virtually impossible to break.
How on earth can you even consider buying this phone if your main intention is not using what is what made for?
If you don't want all that, just get a regular phone, made for regular people, where you get your updates, regularly, through some really ****ty 3rd party "value-addon" software. Which only runs on 2 versions of Windows. And slowly.
Or just get your yakju/non-yakju phone and get the updates when you do, which will still be before everyone else.
Really.
You are putting to much into this. Either you want a moddable phone, and this one is it, or you are not a modder, and you should get something else.
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*sigh*
Jesus christ what happened to the experimental Nexus spirit?
Why on earth even get this phone if you are afraid of touching it?
It's a phone designed to be ****ed with and still be bootable with code hosted outside it if you **** it up completely. It's virtually impossible to break.
How on earth can you even consider buying this phone if your main intention is not using what is what made for?
If you don't want all that, just get a regular phone, made for regular people, where you get your updates, regularly, through some really ****ty 3rd party "value-addon" software. Which only runs on 2 versions of Windows. And slowly.
Or just get your yakju/non-yakju phone and get the updates when you do, which will still be before everyone else.
Really.
You are putting to much into this. Either you want a moddable phone, and this one is it, or you are not a modder, and you should get something else.
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That's quite a pompous rant. Shame you're so embarrassingly off the mark. The Nexus is a dev phone, because it is important to have a smoothly running device with the latest operating system out there for manufacturers and app developers. It contributes to the viability of the Android ecosystem (#1 reason the Nexus is made for). Hence the rapid OTA system on an incremental version basis. But you're full blown ego-crazy if you think Google released a phone just for you - the 0.001% that wants to mod. This is a mass market phone now (#2 reason it is made for). Most consumers buy it exactly so they don't have to root and install custom roms to stay up to date without the inherent bleeding-edge bugs that goes along with hacking. All Android phones are moddable. Why the hell wouldn't you have bought something with better specs if you were just going to mod it? You did it wrong. Sorry to break it to you, but Google made the GN without your specific hobby in mind.
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Ok, and I guess, lock the bootloader after?
I also buy it soon, and I also want to use "yakju" build, but dont want to root or unlock bootloader, but there is no way to flash "yakju" without unlock the bootloader?
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You don't root. You do unlock the bootloader, but who cares! If you must have a locked bootloader, its just 1 extra command line entry to lock it again after you're done flashing to yakju.
Don't think you're understanding really. Unlocking the bootloader on a Nexus is not a big deal. It is literally 1 command line entry to unlock or lock. Like I said, flashing yakju takes literally 5 minutes.
I know that, but people here talking about the variants of it,
how can we be 100% sure, that for example M and J have the same hardware?
and only the radio software is different?!
E15i said:
I know that, but people here talking about the variants of it,
how can we be 100% sure, that for example M and J have the same hardware?
and only the radio software is different?!
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You just know! Stop worrying FFS. I could hand you either one with flashed yakju firmware and you would never be able to tell the difference (even with regional software you wouldn't tell). No matter what, you'll get an i9250 that's what matters.
Hi im a passive reader i never register... but now i want to buy this phone and I cant find the answer..
I want to buy this product
amazon.de/Samsung-Smartphone-Touchscreen-Megapixel-titanium-silber/dp/B005Y5SE6I/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=562066&s=ce-de
But i dont know if this model: GT-I9250TSADBT is pentaband or not...
My 3G network is 850/1900
Ty for the answer and sorry for my noob question
Mapeed said:
Hi im a passive reader i never register... but now i want to buy this phone and I cant find the answer..
I want to buy this product
amazon.de/Samsung-Smartphone-Touchscreen-Megapixel-titanium-silber/dp/B005Y5SE6I/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=562066&s=ce-de
But i dont know if this model: GT-I9250TSADBT is pentaband or not...
My 3G network is 850/1900
Ty for the answer and sorry for my noob question
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All GSM Galaxy Nexus devices are pentaband.
Mapeed said:
Hi im a passive reader i never register... but now i want to buy this phone and I cant find the answer..
I want to buy this product
amazon.de/Samsung-Smartphone-Touchscreen-Megapixel-titanium-silber/dp/B005Y5SE6I/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=562066&s=ce-de
But i dont know if this model: GT-I9250TSADBT is pentaband or not...
My 3G network is 850/1900
Ty for the answer and sorry for my noob question
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Create a thread. No need to bump a thread from 3 months ago to ask an unrelated question.
Sent from the future.
SocialReject said:
Create a thread. No need to bump a thread from 3 months ago to ask an unrelated question.
Sent from the future.
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If i do that u will tell me then that i have to use the search tool...
Ty for the answer
Hey All,
Long story short, I got an HTC One M8 M8x (which is apparently from Taiwan?).
I got it on the cheap.
Phone starts, activates just fine. I have MetroPCS. However, I won't access LTE at all. I have tried to change the APN and everything. The model I have should have LTE.
Any thoughts on how to fix it?
SIM Card
I also had to chop off part of my SIM to fit. Is it possible I removed the LTE portion of the SIM?
That device has these bands as per here: Those appear to be for a chinese region
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16875502227
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600
Metro PCS has these bands:Tmobile Network,does not appear that specific device has the bands.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
So...
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That device has these bands as per here: Those appear to be for a chinese region
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16875502227
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600
Metro PCS has these bands:Tmobile Network,does not appear that specific device has the bands.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
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That basically means I'm boned then right? There's literally nothing I can do (since it is hardware based).
Unfortunately it appears that way,based on what I found in that info that device will not aupport tmobile lte via metropcs towers.
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That basically means I'm boned then right? There's literally nothing I can do (since it is hardware based).
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Change Radio?
Do you think there's anyway I could just flash another radio file to change the frequencies picked up?
No not to my knowledge,they are hardcoded into device.
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Do you think there's anyway I could just flash another radio file to change the frequencies picked up?
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No not to my knowledge,they are hardcoded into device.
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If I'm understanding correctly, the M8x is the same as any other GSM M8, its just a regionalization?
If so, as long as the phone is s-off, you should be able to flash a different radio and open up different freq support on LTE (in this case, a T-Mob radio). Or am I missing something? I know WNC is a lot smarter than me on this stuff, so I'm thinking I must be missing something?
Im not 100% you could very well be correct,thats why i said to my knowledge its wont work. From what I was told awhile back it is in the hardware not the firmware software.I do know for a fact on the M7 is is not able to be changed via firmware radio flashing.
Post #18 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921&page=2
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If I'm understanding correctly, the M8x is the same as any other GSM M8, its just a regionalization?
If so, as long as the phone is s-off, you should be able to flash a different radio and open up different freq support on LTE (in this case, a T-Mob radio). Or am I missing something? I know WNC is a lot smarter than me on this stuff, so I'm thinking I must be missing something?
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Im not 100% you could very well be correct,thats why i said to my knowledge its wont work. From what I was told awhile back it is in the hardware not the firmware software.I do know for a fact on the M7 is is not able to be changed via firmware radio flashing.
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As of Snapdragon 801 chipset, the band support is now software based. It was a new thing for me too, on this device. As previously, I was accustomed to band support always being hardware based, and telling people "no way" when they asked if you can change band support by flashing a different radio.
My understanding, all GSM M8's have identical hardware (aside from cosmetics) and can be flashed/converted to be any other variant (s-off required, of course).
The exceptions are the dual SIM M8 and (possibly) the CDMA (Sprint, Verizon) variants which may actually have different hardware (its not been clear to me, and I have yet to read anything definitive either way on this).
Link i posted for thread post #18 says user tried other variants radios and was unable to get them to work, IF this is true then they are not all software base...shrugs, who knows...lol
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Link i posted for thread post #18 says user tried other variants radios and was unable to get them to work, IF this is true then they are not all software base...shrugs, who knows...lol
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So this may indeed be something specific to the Taiwanese variant (not compatible with other M8 radios?).
Other folks on that same thread were able to do it on other variants (AT&T radio on T-Mob version; T-Mob radio on AT&T version) and I've seen other reports to the same effect.
It may be, they may have locked it up on chinese variant as it is a different device model than a regular m8
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It may be, they may have locked it up on chinese variant as it is a different device model than a regular m8
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Yeah, I forgot the Taiwanese variant had different CPU clocking (but otherwise the same?).
Based on that post id say more than thats different....
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
maheshpatel said:
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yes, I will talk to him about 32GB UK model & 1800Mhz LTE band issues.
Here's the seller link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-4615635472.37.CvSgdM&id=41040381216
Let me know what you think of the seller? There are many such sellers selling M8 around that price difference is minor 40-50 RMB & GIFTS
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US. View attachment 3076060
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Can't see the first two images
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See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
n1234d said:
Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Yes, You're right MID should be 0P6B100
Here's the M8 MID Info http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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MID 0P6B160 belongs to Telus/Rogers [CA] Here we are looking for MID 0P6B100 32GB variant
Now what do you have to say? Did HTC just released 32GB UK Unlocked version?
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
n1234d said:
Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
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Yes, European variant supports 4G - LTE:800/900/1800/2600 MHz
EddyOS said:
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Now I would definitely ask HTC UK customer support. You're based in UK so I am sure you know better than the others.
Hi I have a question looked but can't find any information I'm on 3 U.K want to buy HTC one m8 from Amazon U.S will it work can I receive 4g with that phone thanks.
nexusguy74 said:
Hi I have a question looked but can't find any information I'm on 3 U.K want to buy HTC one m8 from Amazon U.S will it work can I receive 4g with that phone thanks.
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Do you have a model number or link to be sure of what variant we are talking about?
Based on the following webpage 3 uses Band 3 (1800 MHz) for LTE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
And based on the following, the US unlocked M8 does not support LTE band 3: https://support.t-mobile.com/message/358933
So based on this, the US unlocked M8 will not receive 4G LTE on your carrier.
Band support can be changed in software. However, it requires s-off ($25 US by sunshine). And unless you are getting a really good deal on the US unlocked version, I normally suggest getting the variant that supports your carrier's bands out of the box; to avoid the small chance you aren't successful in modding the phone.
This is the link to the one in question http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J3...htc+one+m8&dpPl=1&dpID=510p0WeVhaL&ref=plSrch
3U.K get 800mhz 1.8 and 2.6 but phone in question I can't seem to find out any info thanks.
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This is the link to the one in question http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J3...htc+one+m8&dpPl=1&dpID=510p0WeVhaL&ref=plSrch
3U.K get 800mhz 1.8 and 2.6 but phone in question I can't seem to find out any info thanks.
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LTE 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz correspond to Bands 20, 3, and 38 respectively. The specs in the page you linked indicate that it doesn't support any of those LTE bands (supports Bands 17/4/2/5). Those specs also matched the linked I provided in my last post for the US unlocked version.
LTE won't work for you unless you modify the phone's software/firmware as I indicated in my last post.
OK great thanks for the info and response.
So I was looking to buy various HTC phones in different colors. I saw some places online selling the HTC M8 in about 6 different colors: Blue, Gold , Gray, Pink, Red, and Silver. The problem is that as far as I have seen, this phone only comes officially in Gold, Gray, and Silver (at least in the USA). And I've see reviews of others buying in the other three colors stating that the phones were knockoffs or fake. Does anyone know if there is a legitimate GSM version of this phone in Red for the USA? If so, where can I purchase it?
Thanks.
If you mean, a GSM version intended for US (AT&T or T-Mobile) than no, there were no red version ever released (only red Verizon M8 variant). There was a red version released in UK, which would be GSM. But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support). May not be worthwhile effort, just to get a red casing.
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If you mean, a GSM version intended for US (AT&T or T-Mobile) than no, there were no red version ever released (only red Verizon M8 variant). There was a red version released in UK, which would be GSM. But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support). May not be worthwhile effort, just to get a red casing.
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That's what I figured but wasn't completely sure since sometimes different variants get released and are not so well known. So there is a UK version in red that is legitamate? And yeah, that's a lot of work, but if it does work I'm willing to do it.
The5thSurvivor said:
So there is a UK version in red that is legitamate? And yeah, that's a lot of work, but if it does work I'm willing to do it.
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Yes, it's legitimate: https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m8_now_available_in_red_and_pink_color_options-news-9132.php
But it seems like a weird tradeoff to (most likely) lose LTE just for a red phone. I usually get a case for my phone anyway (although I know lots of folks don't), so a red case is a much easier solution!
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Yes, it's legitimate: https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m8_now_available_in_red_and_pink_color_options-news-9132.php
But it seems like a weird tradeoff to (most likely) lose LTE just for a red phone. I usually get a case for my phone anyway (although I know lots of folks don't), so a red case is a much easier solution!
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Thanks for the confirmation.
Hmmm, what about an actual shell replacement in different colors? Do those exist? Haven't seen them for sale anywhere.
The5thSurvivor said:
Hmmm, what about an actual shell replacement in different colors? Do those exist? Haven't seen them for sale anywhere.
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I've heard of folks swapping the back covers (and the front pieces are just inserts, so they seem easy to remove/replace). So I think replacement certainly exist, but I don't know about red ones. Especially since the red version is a pretty obscure variant, to begin with.
Following website has a full teardown of the M8. Obviously, you aren't doing all that, but it does show how to remove the back cover and front pieces: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
Personally, I try to stay away from taking apart these devices. I've had a bad history of taking apart electronic devices, going back to iPod days. You'll see some folks around these forums swear it's easy (taking these phones apart). But even though I'm an engineer, and a generally careful person; something always seems to go wrong and I end up making the device worse than it started! Scratched up casing on the devices, is one problem I always seem to get. Although if you are replacing the casing anyway, maybe this is a moot point. I also see a lot of reports of folks taking apart these phones, and then one thing or another not working properly when they re-assemble (breaking the ribbon cables is common). You may have better luck, but just wanted to throw that out there.
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But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support).
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So doing this can definitely allow per se, the European version of a phone to work in the USA at least with H or H+ and possibly LTE?
I ask because I had purchased a blue M7 and it was the European international version. Out of the box it was already with S-Off, Super CID, but couldn't get 3G or 4G, just 2G with T-Mobile and no signal with AT&T. I didn't change the firmware though.
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So doing this can definitely allow per se, the European version of a phone to work in the USA at least with H or H+ and possibly LTE?
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Changing firmware (and therefore radio baseband) should get you 3G. I hesitate to say "definitely" since that is somewhat of a dangerous word when working with these devices! But I am pretty confident that 3G would not be a problem.
LTE is another story. Lots of folks on this forum have had problems getting LTE service after "converting" to the proper radio (which support the LTE bands used by their local carrier). So I'm pretty skeptical on LTE, and I wouldn't count on getting it. Get the M8 version intended for your carrier, to guarantee LTE connectivity.
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I ask because I had purchased a blue M7 and it was the European international version. Out of the box it was already with S-Off, Super CID, but couldn't get 3G or 4G, just 2G with T-Mobile and no signal with AT&T. I didn't change the firmware though.
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T-Mobile uses Bands 2 (1900) and 4 (AWS or 1700/2100) for 3G. From what I can tell, the Euro version M7 should support 3G band 2 (although I don't know much about that device, never owned it) and from what I understand, T-Mobile migrated 3G service to Band 2 in most areas. But if your area is still using AWS when you tried the M7, it would explain why 3G didn't work (Euro M7 doesn't support AWS band on 3G).
AT&T uses bands 850, 1900 and 2100 for 3G. All of which should be supported on the Euro M7, from what I can tell. And even if you didn't have 3G, you should at least have gotten 2G and voice service. So I think something else was going wrong there, besides band support.
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Changing firmware (and therefore radio baseband) should get you 3G. I hesitate to say "definitely" since that is somewhat of a dangerous word when working with these devices! But I am pretty confident that 3G would not be a problem.
LTE is another story. Lots of folks on this forum have had problems getting LTE service after "converting" to the proper radio (which support the LTE bands used by their local carrier). So I'm pretty skeptical on LTE, and I wouldn't count on getting it. Get the M8 version intended for your carrier, to guarantee LTE connectivity.
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I see. I wish every region would just use the same bands everywhere. It sucks to have the phone you want but can't get LTE even though the device has support for LTE. I've been looking where to get the specific HTC phones that I want new, but the only people selling them new still are all overseas with either the European, Australian, or Asian variants. I'd love to buy an M7, M8, and M9 for the USA brand new.
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T-Mobile uses Bands 2 (1900) and 4 (AWS or 1700/2100) for 3G. From what I can tell, the Euro version M7 should support 3G band 2 (although I don't know much about that device, never owned it) and from what I understand, T-Mobile migrated 3G service to Band 2 in most areas. But if your area is still using AWS when you tried the M7, it would explain why 3G didn't work (Euro M7 doesn't support AWS band on 3G
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I'm in NYC. Out of the box, my Euro M7 only gets EDGE with T-Mobile. Just came came across this. It pretty much explains what you said as to why 3G didn't work.
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AT&T uses bands 850, 1900 and 2100 for 3G. All of which should be supported on the Euro M7, from what I can tell. And even if you didn't have 3G, you should at least have gotten 2G and voice service. So I think something else was going wrong there, besides band support.
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With AT&T, my Euro M7 gets no signal. 2G doesn't work since AT&T shut down their 2G. I was very surprised that 3G didn't work with AT&T at all. But as you mentioned, perhaps changing firmware will get 3G working hopefully.
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I see. I wish every region would just use the same bands everywhere. It sucks to have the phone you want but can't get LTE even though the device has support for LTE.
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It's massively complicated, since frequencies are divided up by every type of radio transmitter used by mankind. Many of which existing before cell phones were invented. Add to that, the fact that the US carriers compete with each other for purchase of said bands, instead of just all using the same ones (which happens in many other countries) and yes, you have a huge mess.
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With AT&T, my Euro M7 gets no signal. 2G doesn't work since AT&T shut down their 2G.
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Wow, AT&T is my carrier, and I didn't even realize that happened! I've taken it for granted for so long, that I can just throw my SIM in any phone (as long as it is unlocked) and at least have voice and 2G work.
I learned something today!
Yeah, that is a huge mess. And I found out earlier this year myself that AT&T had discontinued their 2G January of last year. T-Mobile will follow suit next year and then Verizon the year after.