Future monthly security updates? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Now that the N7 2013 has officially been retired with the release of Nougat, does anyone know if it will continue to receive monthly security updates? I will almost certainly be throwing a custom Nougat ROM on this device when they're stable enough, and I'm wondering how that is going to play with continued monthly security updates.

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Maybe I should ask this a different way. How does one typically wars off or deal with the monthly security OTA update when you have a custom ROM installed?

You can search around the forums it's been discussed. I don't remember how or where exactly.
But going by this I don't think we'll get many or maybe any more updates. https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en
Lets see if we get one Monday and then next month.

yosmokinman said:
You can search around the forums it's been discussed. I don't remember how or where exactly.
But going by this I don't think we'll get many or maybe any more updates. https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en
Lets see if we get one Monday and then next month.
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Current security patch?

Hi,
New here and loving my 8 Pro
I was wondering what Android security patch do you guys/girls currently have? Mine (EU version) is 5th of April, anyone got a newer one?
The April security patch is still being deployed. My phone got it less than 2 weeks ago. I think that Google has a quarterly cycle so I don't think there is anything more recent than the April level (but I might be wrong)... in any case I don't expect Huawei to roll out another SW update yet while the current rollout isn't finished.
anonimo said:
The April security patch is still being deployed. My phone got it less than 2 weeks ago. I think that Google has a quarterly cycle so I don't think there is anything more recent than the April level (but I might be wrong)... in any case I don't expect Huawei to roll out another SW update yet while the current rollout isn't finished.
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Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
adriansticoid said:
Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
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might also need some time to implement patches with their own ui? just may be?
thilak devraj said:
might also need some time to implement patches with their own ui? just may be?
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Uhmm no. Security patches have nothing to do with the UI. They are just "patches". Once Google uploads a new one, they can just patch the framework and necessary stuff, then roll it out with a small OTA.
adriansticoid said:
Uhmm no. Security patches have nothing to do with the UI. They are just "patches". Once Google uploads a new one, they can just patch the framework and necessary stuff, then roll it out with a small OTA.
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i quite dont get it yet,
if it was that easy, why would brands take such a risk of getting a bad reputation for not providing security patches?
thilak devraj said:
i quite dont get it yet,
if it was that easy, why would brands take such a risk of getting a bad reputation for not providing security patches?
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I don't know. That's the way they think. Look at the Nexus line. They always receive monthly updates because it's coming directly from Google.
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adriansticoid said:
I don't know. That's the way they think. Look at the Nexus line. They always receive monthly updates because it's coming directly from Google.
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because google doesnt have to modify a thing, cause its stock android
thilak devraj said:
because google doesnt have to modify a thing, cause its stock android
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Like I said, security patches are just patches. It has nothing to do with the flavor of Android.
adriansticoid said:
Like I said, security patches are just patches. It has nothing to do with the flavor of Android.
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then, you are right, brands are just lazy if they do not provide at least security patches
adriansticoid said:
Actually Google releases patches update every month. OEMs are just lazy to give the monthly updates to users.
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not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
mydragoon said:
not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
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I stand corrected. Thanks. I hope Project Treble will be a success.
So, I'm guessing all 8 Pros are on april patch, at leastwe got it faster then the regular 8.
MrHuman said:
So, I'm guessing all 8 Pros are on april patch, at leastwe got it faster then the regular 8.
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That's how OEMs behave. Prioritizing updates on newly released devices.
adriansticoid said:
That's how OEMs behave. Prioritizing updates on newly released devices.
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actually we are behind the regular h8.
but from what i see duk-al20 (alias the honor v9, not the 9) is already on june, if not even july ^^ (B180 i think)
only european variant left out ..
OldDroid said:
actually we are behind the regular h8.
but from what i see duk-al20 (alias the hobor v9) is already on june, if not even july ^^ (B180 i think)
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Oh. That was a fast move by Huawei. I hope they do this with most of their devices.
mydragoon said:
not really true. recall reading an article that briefly explained the process, even security patch takes time for manufacturers to update -- need to go thru chipset manufacturer, and then to phone manufacturer and carriers... what i understand, not that much difference from the regular updates.
which is why Google is trying to make things easier in Nougat.
just sharing this link as well:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ke-full-control-of-androids-security-updates/
not the article i read, but still, hope it provides some extra info...
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but , things are gonna change, biggest problem in android is reaching of the updates to devices, project treble:fingers-crossed:
Let's just hope for the best.
Any region on newer security patch then 5th April? Even my 1 1/2 year old 120 euro Asus tablet has got this update, would think Honor would pay more attention to it's flagship phone.
MrHuman said:
Any region on newer security patch then 5th April? Even my 1 1/2 year old 120 euro Asus tablet has got this update, would think Honor would pay more attention to it's flagship phone.
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Check THIS AL20 has June updates.
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March update and email push

Hello
someone tried already March update regarding battery?
also, i see emails that come after 40 minutes to my device even though that it doesn't maek for optimization, how can i do that it will sync right away that when email enter it will come right away?
thank you
what March update?
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what March update?
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security update-monthly
its not out, is it?
I dont see any march update on google factory images site nor anywhere else. Are you sure you are on march update?
psnijjar said:
I dont see any march update on google factory images site nor anywhere else. Are you sure you are on march update?
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no, i just ask if there's some news with the battery with these update - does google will do something?
As far as i have read about it online, it mostly says various vulnerability fixes. Rest have to wait for the update to check ourselves that is it really battery friendly or not.
thank you,
and about the question in gmail?
How would we know if the update hasn't been released yet?
Is there a specific day of the month these updates drop....or is it usually just at some point early in the month? I've been looking for dates the last few days trying to figure out the schedule but it hasn't been as easy as I thought it'd be. I believe February's dropped on the 5th. That's the only one with a date I could find.
I think the monthly security updates are be released on the first Monday of a month.
Koboldchen said:
I think the monthly security updates are be released on the first Monday of a month.
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Yup around 10 or 11 am PST
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So today will be a release?
djcrystals said:
Is there a specific day of the month these updates drop....or is it usually just at some point early in the month? I've been looking for dates the last few days trying to figure out the schedule but it hasn't been as easy as I thought it'd be. I believe February's dropped on the 5th. That's the only one with a date I could find.
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First Monday of the month.
Thrillofit said:
So today will be a release?
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Usually, yes. But sometimes not :laugh:
Cool. Thanks for the responses.
djcrystals said:
Is there a specific day of the month these updates drop....or is it usually just at some point early in the month? I've been looking for dates the last few days trying to figure out the schedule but it hasn't been as easy as I thought it'd be. I believe February's dropped on the 5th. That's the only one with a date I could find.
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It's always early in the month: March could be today or tomorrow.
I think its the first monday of the month, but not sure
Should and Could be....
Lol! and the update button still doesn't work!

[T-Mobile Variant] I guess were getting a security patch update every 2 months?

Just updated my phone at work for a security patch and went from September to November that's cool I guess, I was kinda hoping for December but I guess we will skip December get January's in February
I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.
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I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.
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It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball
Joe199799 said:
It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball
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I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...
doubledragon5 said:
I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...
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I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.
20degrees said:
I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.
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I agree 100 percent. I personally do not plan on updating my phone, again, unless it is necessary, or pie drops.

what happened with OnePlus ?

I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6.in that time op6 gets every month security patches and updates without any delay..I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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You should understand that the Coronavirus incident affected all of the development, from any China company.
[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
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Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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"We encountered some delays due to the NCP outbreak. The January security update for 7T will be released in the following two weeks if all goes well."
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I heard that their staff announced new updates will come on two month regular basis
[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
bynarie said:
yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
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Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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Thanks for the information
rob420p said:
Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
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Yeah..Right
Abaddon said:
They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
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Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
Why would you put your trust in any oem? OnePlus already has your money. Also you're on XDA asking this... a home of developers and other enthusiasts who create and contribute to custom updated roms. [emoji2361]
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Yeah..Right
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U don't think so?
[email protected] said:
Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
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They're all under BBK electronics yes. (Oppo, Vivo, Realme and Oneplus) but they're seperated into different teams/offices especially OnePlus with it's OxygenOS. So people from Realme can work I think but people from OnePlus can't. It depends on where they are and their worling environment. Just wait. It'll soon be there and development on custom scene shall be A-okay okce twrp gets sorted out.
skeamznz said:
Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
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Delaying this update for Corona virus is understandable, and first thing important is the employees health.
But let's not just pretend this is one time thing. OnePlus always does this, always releases an update at the end of the month with previous months patch set and never really stay on track.
In my opinion, this is where OnePlus has fallen behind, and I think it's because they release too many phones to keep track of.
Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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You should try visiting the OnePlus forum. I think every second or third post is someone whining about the security update being late.
Aside from being disgusted by the colossal self-centeredness of so many people *****ing about a damned phone update while people in the phone's country of origin are literally dying, I can't help but wonder WTF these people are doing with their phones to make them that paranoid.
Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.
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Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.

Question Where is the March update?

First Monday of the month is typically when the updates hit, isn't it?
Also, it should be Feature Drop time. But no mention of it anywhere. Maybe just small update to come or there will be one next Monday?
Not until 1pm EST.
They confirmed it's delayed again
Delayed, plus the "feature drop" consists of some mediocre Snapchat stuff, an oversized battery widget and a couple stickers. The Pixel 6 turns into a disappointment. Non-existent feature drops, massive bugs, delayed updates... not a good track record.
Bipolar chat in the forums.. 13 Dev 2 comes out Thursday. I would think it will be out by the 15th or so latest.
Google really is starting to disappoint me with this phone. Bugs in connectivity, late updates you name it ... Expensive phone too.
Put me off Google I must admit I am starting to regret buying this phone.
numbnutsuk said:
Google really is starting to disappoint me with this phone. Bugs in connectivity, late updates you name it ... Expensive phone too.
Put me off Google I must admit I am starting to regret buying this phone.
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I'm starting to regret it too, but we don't have many other options. Chinese phones that I refuse to buy, or Samsung phones that throttle apps. Right now they are all bad.
Hehe. It's funny.
U can see similar post in every phone topic.
Before use OnePlus 7pro and and was exactly same
When updating not on time.
There's no other phone worth considering. OnePlus is dead and Samsung has too much bloat and baggage.
I'm sticking with Pixels because at least I know my monthly updates will improve firmware, not just bump security patch level. And they will come every month. I don't worry too much about the delays, but it's a bad look.
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There's no other phone worth considering. OnePlus is dead and Samsung has too much bloat and baggage.
I'm sticking with Pixels because at least I know my monthly updates will improve firmware, not just bump security patch level. And they will come every month. I don't worry too much about the delays, but it's a bad look.
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I'm agreed with u.
But must be a reason for delay
Every day another reason to regret getting a 6 Pro. WTF was I thinking?
The update rolls out at different times per region doesn't it? That's something to take into account. There could be technical issues of some sort that's causing any sort of delay too.
Just have some patience yall it'll come soon enough
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The update rolls out at different times per region doesn't it? That's something to take into account. There could be technical issues of some sort that's causing any sort of delay too.
Just have some patience yall it'll come soon enough
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The pixel 6 Update is officially delayed by Google. They say later this month. Meaning it has nothing to do with a technical delay for a couple hours.
Morgrain said:
The pixel 6 Update is officially delayed by Google. They say later this month. Meaning it has nothing to do with a technical delay for a couple hours.
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Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.
Gordietm said:
Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.
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And while I probably shouldn't I'm gonna cause know what I heard... It's gonna be on April 1st. Source: Gazoo
Thanks and please have a great day everyone...
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Apparently, Google support says it will be released on March 21st.
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This is turning into a running joke.
Just one answer for "Where is the March update?" - in March
Sorry I had to
I would rather have a late update that's secure and stable than a bug fest with open back doors.
However looks pretty poor.
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Bipolar chat in the forums.. 13 Dev 2 comes out Thursday. I would think it will be out by the 15th or so latest.
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If 12L is delayed that means 13DP2 will not be available for p6 series as well.

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