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Hacking the Sony Liveview

Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.

Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back

So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...

Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\

Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.

I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore

Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?

Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.

nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less

nerys71 said:
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?

its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?

nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you

2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...

openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview

probbiethe1 said:
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226

Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.

jadenguy said:
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.

1X and SE MW-600 stream cuts off

Like the titel says... It cuts off randomly for a secod and then continues. Tried to wipe the profiles and re-pair them, no difference.
Anyone else got the same issue on this paticular model or any other BT unit?

I've only had mine for a couple of weeks but I use it every day. I haven't noticed it cutting off. My complaint is that they have the cord with the plug going upwards (towards the earbud) instead of pointing downwards since most people would clip the BT unit on their shirt.
Other than that (oh! and the stupid volume controller - WTF?!?) I like it and it's worth the $40 I spent on Amazon since I can always replace the earbud portion of it.

I know what u meen But I like this BT unit. The battery last whole day with heavy use, and I can be discreet hiding it. Some think it is an mp3 player And the range is incredible. I Can run around in my office complex 50m away from my 1x laying on my desk.
Did some diggin about my issue. Apparently, the stream clips when you have wifi on, transmitting data at the same. unless you are using 5GHz on the network. BT are on 2,4GHz, same as most wifi.
Edit: it cant be right... Have to do some more diggin

Mines seemed ok but my WiFi was off IIRC. I'll need to check.
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for me it iss gone with the 1.29 update.
also screen turned on everytime i pressed a button, but thats gone too now

Ouya Issues

GF got me an ouya as a stocking stuffer and even though I really wanted one and think its a great little toy, I cant get over a few issues.
I am hoping some of you guys can tell me you've experienced the same and maybe even have a fix.
My console is rooted but stock rom.
1) controller lag is awful. Even playing an old SNES game mario world was so unresponsive I couldn't even finish the first stage. I downloaded "The Ball" which actually is a very interesting little game I might buy for 9$ but seriously the Lag would get so bad My guy would end up spinning in cricles and killing himself.
I recently decided to hard wire the system since I have read online thats a possible fix but really didnt get time to test. Also read placing the system on its side helps but REALLY?
2) Sound dissapears. EVERY time I reboot or come up from sleep mode (50/50 on that one) I have to repeatedly unplug and re plug in the HDMI plug until sound returns. WTF is up with that? Also read this could be a universal problem after the latest update.
3) Wireless N will not work. Again I have hardwired it for now but the thing WILL NOT see my wireless N on my duel band. It will see the G fine and have "excellent" connection but it will not see the N. I even tried manually entering the SSID but no luck. My buddy who also bought one when I did seems to have ZERO the issues Im having.
I have been dealing with tech support and wondering If I shoudl just return the thing to Target as a faulty model and try again.

tevil said:
GF got me an ouya as a stocking stuffer and even though I really wanted one and think its a great little toy, I cant get over a few issues.
I am hoping some of you guys can tell me you've experienced the same and maybe even have a fix.
My console is rooted but stock rom.
1) controller lag is awful. Even playing an old SNES game mario world was so unresponsive I couldn't even finish the first stage. I downloaded "The Ball" which actually is a very interesting little game I might buy for 9$ but seriously the Lag would get so bad My guy would end up spinning in cricles and killing himself.
I recently decided to hard wire the system since I have read online thats a possible fix but really didnt get time to test. Also read placing the system on its side helps but REALLY?
2) Sound dissapears. EVERY time I reboot or come up from sleep mode (50/50 on that one) I have to repeatedly unplug and re plug in the HDMI plug until sound returns. WTF is up with that? Also read this could be a universal problem after the latest update.
3) Wireless N will not work. Again I have hardwired it for now but the thing WILL NOT see my wireless N on my duel band. It will see the G fine and have "excellent" connection but it will not see the N. I even tried manually entering the SSID but no luck. My buddy who also bought one when I did seems to have ZERO the issues Im having.
I have been dealing with tech support and wondering If I shoudl just return the thing to Target as a faulty model and try again.
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1) I don't have any lags with controllet. I have used Wifi, but now I'm using ethernet and work fine. Try the controller settings with wifi and bluetooth settings.
2) I have sound bug only in emulator. Solution is go to the audio settings and than back. Once do this in GTA but I only press 2x menu button a than quit and it worked.
3) I have only 802.11 N and no problem. If you mean 5GHz N this is not support.

Mattthev said:
1) no problem. If you mean 5GHz N this is not support.
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okay then thats it cause mine is dual channel
Still the controller lag is a huge issue.
Also the sound settings are not it cause literally I will just replug in the HDMI and it comes back.
thanks
Ive googled and seen others who say their sound went after the latest update and since mine updated as soon as it turned on then thats probably it

tevil said:
okay then thats it cause mine is dual channel
Still the controller lag is a huge issue.
Also the sound settings are not it cause literally I will just replug in the HDMI and it comes back.
thanks
Ive googled and seen others who say their sound went after the latest update and since mine updated as soon as it turned on then thats probably it
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Try another HDMI cable and use ethernet.

Mattthev said:
Try another HDMI cable and use ethernet.
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yeah been through about 4 cables until I finally just went back to stock because it was the shortest.
All of them did it.
Im on ethernet now. Will have to run some plays tonight.

Location. Is your Ouya in clear sight and close to the controller? For some ungodly reason the Ouya has a metal case, a metal case surrounding all the wireless antennas.
I recently placed my Ouya 6" from where it previously resided, but behind my TV. Now my streaming shows buffer every 2-3 minutes.
I have heard the aftermarket cases offer significant improvements in wireless performance. Since the WiFi and Bluetooth use the same chip and antenna both are affected, and both improve with increased signal that is the result of removing the Faraday cage from around the motherboard. This improves the responsiveness of the controller since it isn't fighting for signal as much, and Bluetooth is a low power short range protocol as it is.
Also try calibrating the controller. Pull the batteries, put them back in, and fire up the controller. Don't touch it while its starting. It helped improve my controller some, didn't notice if it improved lag at all though.

ill try the recalibration.
I have turned it on its side and its about 8' to the right of where I sit in plain line of sight. Also its using a hard cable now. improved but NOT great. Will work fine for like 15 minutes then just start buggin out.
My controller firmware is 0x0103 which seems to be older since there is 0104 out now.
My buddy who has ZERO issues with his controller running wifi with his OUYA behind his TV is going to tell me his firmware tonight. He lives in anotehr state tho so we cant trade controlelrs.
Been going back and forth with OUYA cust serv on this.
Also the sound thing seems to be a big issue on the OUYA forums

No issues with sound for me, so it is not universal. It's probably a bug that affects some TV's and receivers but not others. Stuff like that was super common when HDMI was new. Doing support for HD cable boxes sucked, let me tell you.
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[Q] Zenwatch "defect"? Anyone else experience this?

Just wanted to share my recent experience with my Zenwatch and what may or maynot be a defect, and see if anybody else has experienced a similar issue.
I received my Zenwatch on Dec 29th, and wear it pretty much all the time. As a teacher I have found a lot of uses for it and find that without it I feel lost. Anyways, this past Monday I took my watch hand out of my pocket and as I did so my Zenwatch left my wrist and fell to the floor, much to my surprise! After examining it I found that the watch had broken at the top of the watch, where the metal piece that holds the strap connects to the main body (See picture below). The whole piece simply separated from the watch body, leaving behind a rough edged feeling where it had connected before though I was hard pressed to tell if something broke or what. Personally, I believe something broke. I bought it through the Play store and thankfully Google was very helpful and immediately shipped me another one giving me complimentary overnight shipping and all.
Has anybody else experienced this same issue or could it just have been a fluke?

I haven't had that issue, and I'm sorry that you have!
However, I was wondering about your statement about being a teacher and finding it invaluable. I, too, am a teacher, but have found no real use for this watch in my classroom (other than as a watch, or surreptitiously reading text messages).
How do you use it in class?

Smyc151 said:
I haven't had that issue, and I'm sorry that you have!
However, I was wondering about your statement about being a teacher and finding it invaluable. I, too, am a teacher, but have found no real use for this watch in my classroom (other than as a watch, or surreptitiously reading text messages).
How do you use it in class?
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I teach language arts in a middle school and the Zenwatch has helped make the transition to a paperless class a bit easier than it was before. I integrate as much technology as I can in the classroom in as many different ways as I can, it helps keep the kids attention and opens the door for many different ideas/options. For example, instead of having to sit at a computer to check whether or not an assignment has been turned in, or carrying around an ipad, or taking my phone out, I can check for notifications on my watch. This is particularly useful when using google classroom and edublogs. I've also found remote link to be invaluable for controlling my projector (via my laptop) while I walk around the room, now I do not need to carry a clicker or remote control and my hands are free! I no longer need to pull out my phone or Ipad to jot down a note/email, etc. I also use my watch to help me with my daily to-do-lists via todoist (todolist). It also allows me to stay hands free when I use it to control music via bluetooth speakers (jazz, classical crossover/synthpop - Mindi Abair & Bond - very fast, upbeat Jazz & wordless pop ) in the classroom. I also use it with my school email (google) for hangouts, where if a student is not comfortable asking questions out loud, they can message me during class. I have even used the remote camera to take pictures of the kids when they were really engaged and my phone was on my desk (I also handle the yearbook & for evidence for standards or to show their parents how well they are working). There are many other ways that I use it as well. To be honest, it's harder for me to find a way not to use it than for me to find ways to use it.

Vykynn said:
I teach language arts in a middle school and the Zenwatch has helped make the transition to a paperless class a bit easier than it was before. I integrate as much technology as I can in the classroom in as many different ways as I can, it helps keep the kids attention and opens the door for many different ideas/options. For example, instead of having to sit at a computer to check whether or not an assignment has been turned in, or carrying around an ipad, or taking my phone out, I can check for notifications on my watch. This is particularly useful when using google classroom and edublogs. I've also found remote link to be invaluable for controlling my projector (via my laptop) while I walk around the room, now I do not need to carry a clicker or remote control and my hands are free! I no longer need to pull out my phone or Ipad to jot down a note/email, etc. I also use my watch to help me with my daily to-do-lists via todoist (todolist). It also allows me to stay hands free when I use it to control music via bluetooth speakers (jazz, classical crossover/synthpop - Mindi Abair & Bond - very fast, upbeat Jazz & wordless pop ) in the classroom. I also use it with my school email (google) for hangouts, where if a student is not comfortable asking questions out loud, they can message me during class. I have even used the remote camera to take pictures of the kids when they were really engaged and my phone was on my desk (I also handle the yearbook & for evidence for standards or to show their parents how well they are working). There are many other ways that I use it as well. To be honest, it's harder for me to find a way not to use it than for me to find ways to use it.
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All fabulous ideas! Thanks!!!

damn
I have EXACTLY the same issue, holder of strap just disconnected from watch body.
looks like it's a bad design and eventually it will fail on all zenwatches. now it's time to figure it out, how this can be repaired.

Sorry for that.
It appears to be zenwatch 1, not 2.
ZW2 has different mounts, apparently one piece from mount to mount.

Zenwatch Lug fell off
I had the same problem with my Zenwatch. Accidently dropped it on the floor and the lug fell off. No obvious way to re-attach it. Just past one-year warranty period, so I'll have to cover the cost. I'll try to get a quote from the service agent first before deciding whether or not to have it repaired.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please let me know. Cheers, Thomas

Can someone please try to pursuade me to get a smartwatch?

I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget

teknoflipp said:
I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget
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It has it's niche. I use it with an app to document my blood sugars without having to pull out my phone or even be near my phone (wifi), also I use it with my Ford Sync to call without having to push the buttons on the steering when to make the call ( a 2 step process). I just say "Ok Google, call ..." and the phone dials and Ford Sync automatically picks it up. Also, I can view my texts when I'm with patients without having to pull my phone out. Many, many other uses for me.

teknoflipp said:
I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget
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Its not a thrill, its a useful tool.
I rarely speak into my watch, but when i do its at an invaluable moment.. (like while driving, or if i have my hands full with kids or shopping or whatever)
It saves on phone battery use, due to the ability to respond or dismiss notifications quickly from my wrist .
It has been great for sleep tracking..
Its brilliant in the kitchen.. setting timers vocally with dirty hands etc...
It has been great for changing music tracks and volume when I'm in the garage with greasy hands
I could go on...

Don't buy it. Don't know where wear is heading but for now is pretty useless. Of you just need notifications go for Nabu razer.
Also the battery in this thing is ridiculous. GPS is erratic (one of the reasons I bought it for). I may sell it and get the Nabu which comes at half the price

Buy it, not that expensive so it's not a massive waste if you don't end up using it fully.
I use it for running without my phone and listening to music whilst doing so using Bluetooth headphones and it has really helped, not having to take a phone out with me means I can wear lighter running gear.
I like the way it tracks my steps even if I don't take my phone out with me (although Google Fit needs a lot of improving) and the ability to see notifications whilst keeping my phone in my pocket is invaluable when in meetings etc.
I don't speak into it much really, but could see the advantage in kitchens/cars etc.

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Buy it, not that expensive so it's not a massive waste if you don't end up using it fully.
I use it for running without my phone and listening to music whilst doing so using Bluetooth headphones and it has really helped, not having to take a phone out with me means I can wear lighter running gear.
I like the way it tracks my steps even if I don't take my phone out with me (although Google Fit needs a lot of improving) and the ability to see notifications whilst keeping my phone in my pocket is invaluable when in meetings etc.
I don't speak into it much really, but could see the advantage in kitchens/cars etc.
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it costs 186 euro. so it is a massive waste of money. gps is stopping tracking on its own. nabu and its fitness trackng does it better at half the price and fully notifications