Can someone please try to pursuade me to get a smartwatch? - Sony Smartwatch 3

I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget

teknoflipp said:
I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget
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It has it's niche. I use it with an app to document my blood sugars without having to pull out my phone or even be near my phone (wifi), also I use it with my Ford Sync to call without having to push the buttons on the steering when to make the call ( a 2 step process). I just say "Ok Google, call ..." and the phone dials and Ford Sync automatically picks it up. Also, I can view my texts when I'm with patients without having to pull my phone out. Many, many other uses for me.

teknoflipp said:
I always thought of it as the middle man. At times I dont see the point of owning one. Maybe its the thrill of using it like gadget from inspector gadget
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Its not a thrill, its a useful tool.
I rarely speak into my watch, but when i do its at an invaluable moment.. (like while driving, or if i have my hands full with kids or shopping or whatever)
It saves on phone battery use, due to the ability to respond or dismiss notifications quickly from my wrist .
It has been great for sleep tracking..
Its brilliant in the kitchen.. setting timers vocally with dirty hands etc...
It has been great for changing music tracks and volume when I'm in the garage with greasy hands
I could go on...

Don't buy it. Don't know where wear is heading but for now is pretty useless. Of you just need notifications go for Nabu razer.
Also the battery in this thing is ridiculous. GPS is erratic (one of the reasons I bought it for). I may sell it and get the Nabu which comes at half the price

Buy it, not that expensive so it's not a massive waste if you don't end up using it fully.
I use it for running without my phone and listening to music whilst doing so using Bluetooth headphones and it has really helped, not having to take a phone out with me means I can wear lighter running gear.
I like the way it tracks my steps even if I don't take my phone out with me (although Google Fit needs a lot of improving) and the ability to see notifications whilst keeping my phone in my pocket is invaluable when in meetings etc.
I don't speak into it much really, but could see the advantage in kitchens/cars etc.

jockefc23 said:
Buy it, not that expensive so it's not a massive waste if you don't end up using it fully.
I use it for running without my phone and listening to music whilst doing so using Bluetooth headphones and it has really helped, not having to take a phone out with me means I can wear lighter running gear.
I like the way it tracks my steps even if I don't take my phone out with me (although Google Fit needs a lot of improving) and the ability to see notifications whilst keeping my phone in my pocket is invaluable when in meetings etc.
I don't speak into it much really, but could see the advantage in kitchens/cars etc.
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it costs 186 euro. so it is a massive waste of money. gps is stopping tracking on its own. nabu and its fitness trackng does it better at half the price and fully notifications

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Hacking the Sony Liveview

Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.
Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back
So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...
Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\
Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.
nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less
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Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you
2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...
openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview
probbiethe1 said:
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
jadenguy said:
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.

A tiny wow moment

Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]
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Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]
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Dealing with all the early adopter pains that you speak of right now, but that little glimpse of what I have to look forward too was helpful ha ha. thank you
davedigerati said:
Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]
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THIS is what a smartwatch is for. It's sad to see so many people saying they're useless. It's just the opposite - as features in Android wear grow, so do the possibilities.
I just got my 360 two days ago and I'm already in love with it. As with many the initial setup was a headache with the battery dying during the update, but since then smooth sailing.
I'm seriously considering getting the Moto Hint too, when it comes out. This will be the PERFECT marriage for the 360. Then I'll rarely need to take out my phone at all while I'm on the go!
By the way, to search even quicker, after you bring the watch up to view, instead of saying ok google, just tap the screen.
I kinda had the same thing:
I was driving, wanted to know what time it would get dark, because I had some stuff to do in the yard. I have an app on my phone that tells me, but that's too much work.
I tap my screen "What time is sunset?". Wife next to me responds "I don't know", not realizing I wasn't asking her. A few seconds later I get response from Google telling me the exact time.
That's exactly what a smart watch is good for. I have a big ass Note3 and I love the screen size for surfing, typing emails etc , but for these quick things it's too much work to dig it out of your pockets.
that's the one great things of Google now
unfortunately it doesn't work well with a accent like my dutch, but can't wait to buy it here.
scrapzz said:
that's the one great things of Google now
unfortunately it doesn't work well with a accent like my dutch, but can't wait to buy it here.
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I'm Dutch, moved to the US about 6 years ago. I guess I don't sound that Dutchy anymore. Google Now has no problems understanding me
My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!
For me its setting timers. I have two kids and unless a timer is set, chores take forever. If they aren't done before the timer is over, a toy is taken away, privilege is lost, etc. The moto 360 makes that effortless. Music control is nice as is chromecast control. I hope roku makes an app. The remote tends to get lost around here.
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My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!
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That was my first wow moment too (with lg g watch unfortunately lol)
But now it makes me wish they would give you more than just a pause button, can't they add rewind/fast forward and volume too?! That would be awesome.
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That was my first wow moment too (with lg g watch unfortunately lol)
But now it makes me wish they would give you more than just a pause button, can't they add rewind/fast forward and volume too?! That would be awesome.
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If you actually open the card (small up-swipe), you can then left-swipe for FF/REW options.
jt3 said:
My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!
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If you actually open the card (small up-swipe), you can then left-swipe for FF/REW options.
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I don't get that on mine, at least not for controlling Netflix through the Chromecast. Maybe it works for google play movies.
My 1st WOW moment, took some setup work but totally worth it! I have had my phone setup to control my home automation lights, gas fireplaces, garagedoor, etc by using voice commands for well over a year. Never really found it that practical to use daily since my corporate email requires a screen lock (i know there are ways around this). But there were still too many swipes and presses to get to the autovoice app compared to standing up and walking over the to wall switch. NOW, I just hold my arm up and say "kids rooms lights off" and done. Got the setup from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNRi-hqS7uM
I don't have a wow moment, but i was in a radio shack store to buy an lg g3, (sale person didn't know they have it for sale.) So when i asked him to lookout in the computer for the g3, the repair tech came by and hear the conversation, he told me that in effect they have it 32gb lg g3 for sale. He suddenly view my moto 360 on my wrist and they guy went crazy (funny guy). He yelled at me, "You have the moto 360, how you go it, where you buy it, i tried to buy on moto site on launch day but failed. Man i hate you, don't ever talk to me again". LOL He was too funny, i show him the watch, after playing with it he offered me $300, i declined jajaj
Was a fun time.

What am I supposed to do with this?

For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
Droid9 said:
It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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Well first of all the hardware is not just OK its by far the best on the market period. Apple's is SQUARE and looks terrible. Only round watches are cool, dumb or smart, so Apple missed the boat big time. Also its not Moto that missed the boat, they didn't really design any of the software, its Google/Android that did. And that will change. But my opinion is who cares? I own the watch and I have to admit its a useless item I never use for anything, not even telling the time. Apple will not succeeded either. It's just not a needed item... kind of like 3D TVs. But its cool to have for now.
Enjoy.
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
Success100 said:
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
I tell people this, is it a have to have Necessity? Absolutely not! But I do find it useful.
I always tell people one particular story which to me, highlights the usefulness of this device.
The second day of owning this watch, my phone was upstairs charging, because it accidentally didn't plugged in correctly the night before. I was downstairs doing my end of the month Quickbooks. All of the sudden I hear my phone go off upstairs telling me that I had a new text message. My first thought is "ah crap, I wonder what that message was" .. but then ... Bzzzzzz .. my watched buzzed on my wrist.
I looked at my wrist and I saw I had a text from a girl I know who works at the local grocery store. She said "We have 3 different types of lettuces for 98 cents."
So then I swiped over and said (with my voice) "Thanks for the heads". BOOM! Done. I was like THAT is so sweet!
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I also love the Android wear aware app, that when you leave your phone at home or in a public place, once you get far enough away, your wrist goes nuts telling you you left your phone behind.
One day I was backing out of my driveway. I made it to the street when all of the sudden my wrist started buzzing with a red picture of a phone with a line through it on my watch, telling me I left it inside.
google play music controls
chromecast controls
calendar notifications
you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
google now cards
I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
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there was a guy in my area selling a batch of them for $130 a piece. they were probably stolen lol
Droid9 said:
My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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i disagree. like I said sometimes it is much more convenient for instance when I'm working out to not have to whip out my phone to even SEE who it is and if its even worth responding. Or if I leave my phone downstairs by mistake its still nice to get the notification. Plus Like I said, the watch looks sweet so I never feel like I'm being some uber geek by wearing it even its just to get notifications. I can get notifications clear on the opposite side of the gym so I don't have that 10 foot issue. There are also other sms apps like coffee you can get where you don't have to talk to your wrist. that works very well.
At the end of the day if it doesn't work for you just sell it
bulbouscorm said:
google play music controls
chromecast controls
calendar notifications
you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
google now cards
I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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Responding with voice on chat message from my daughter's is awesome when driving
Responding via voice can actually be more discreet than pulling out the phone. I've found that I can put the watch up near my mouth and talk quietly enough that the person sitting next to me can't hear me. I've responded to messages in movie theaters without anyone knowing, not something I could do with my phone.
Droid9 said:
My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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You've jumped in at the wrong point I think - I'll be honest the only reason I have one is because I'm a bit of a geek and wanted to be able to say to my grandkids "I was one of the first..." It'll be interesting to see how the Apple Watch pans out, right now it looks like it's just going to be a fashion accessory (hey isn't that what all Apples are though..) (he types into this macbook).
As for the voice thing, I use it all the time. I get some funny looks but most of the time (especially amongst 30+ year old people) I tend to get looks of amazement and often "did you really just talk to your watch?" type statements. My biggest gripe with it is that if my phone is within listening distance, it too starts to do what I've asked it, which is pretty annoying. Google had the foresight to "mute phone when android wear device is connected" but not to stop listening when I'm talking to my watch..?
Other than that, it's a complete gimmick, all be it a pretty one. I do get more use out of notifications on my wrist than I thought I would, and having something on my person that auto locks/unlocks my mac and phone is pretty sweet, but beyond that... Also, somewhat annoyingly, I have an app that's supposed to buzz if it disconnects from my phone/tablet. Fool be me. I lost my tablet on a train (totally my fault but still)
I've all but given up on the heartbeat sensor too, it really doesn't like sweat.
When the first mobiles out market, long time ago there was no people talking with a mobile on the street and most people feel that this was embarrassing... But today it's normal to call on streets... Same happens with moto 360 in near future say ok Google or tell something to the watch will be normal... We ar pioneers... It is cool to reply a menssage while driving, or make a call while you are driving without taking the phone... It is cool to receive notifications on moto... But if someone feel that moto is not cool much better to sell it than wear it and complain...
About the embrasing stuff my friends are already used to it and find it cool! It is a great convorsatiom starter and just resopning with voice when in class is amazing (phone's are forbidden in class) so why do you care to get straigers looking at you like wuth is he doing? You will never see them again so there is no problem for me.
And it is amazing to withness the growth of a new kind of technologie I love every update to see what they inproved

[Q] Zenwatch "defect"? Anyone else experience this?

Just wanted to share my recent experience with my Zenwatch and what may or maynot be a defect, and see if anybody else has experienced a similar issue.
I received my Zenwatch on Dec 29th, and wear it pretty much all the time. As a teacher I have found a lot of uses for it and find that without it I feel lost. Anyways, this past Monday I took my watch hand out of my pocket and as I did so my Zenwatch left my wrist and fell to the floor, much to my surprise! After examining it I found that the watch had broken at the top of the watch, where the metal piece that holds the strap connects to the main body (See picture below). The whole piece simply separated from the watch body, leaving behind a rough edged feeling where it had connected before though I was hard pressed to tell if something broke or what. Personally, I believe something broke. I bought it through the Play store and thankfully Google was very helpful and immediately shipped me another one giving me complimentary overnight shipping and all.
Has anybody else experienced this same issue or could it just have been a fluke?
I haven't had that issue, and I'm sorry that you have!
However, I was wondering about your statement about being a teacher and finding it invaluable. I, too, am a teacher, but have found no real use for this watch in my classroom (other than as a watch, or surreptitiously reading text messages).
How do you use it in class?
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I haven't had that issue, and I'm sorry that you have!
However, I was wondering about your statement about being a teacher and finding it invaluable. I, too, am a teacher, but have found no real use for this watch in my classroom (other than as a watch, or surreptitiously reading text messages).
How do you use it in class?
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I teach language arts in a middle school and the Zenwatch has helped make the transition to a paperless class a bit easier than it was before. I integrate as much technology as I can in the classroom in as many different ways as I can, it helps keep the kids attention and opens the door for many different ideas/options. For example, instead of having to sit at a computer to check whether or not an assignment has been turned in, or carrying around an ipad, or taking my phone out, I can check for notifications on my watch. This is particularly useful when using google classroom and edublogs. I've also found remote link to be invaluable for controlling my projector (via my laptop) while I walk around the room, now I do not need to carry a clicker or remote control and my hands are free! I no longer need to pull out my phone or Ipad to jot down a note/email, etc. I also use my watch to help me with my daily to-do-lists via todoist (todolist). It also allows me to stay hands free when I use it to control music via bluetooth speakers (jazz, classical crossover/synthpop - Mindi Abair & Bond - very fast, upbeat Jazz & wordless pop ) in the classroom. I also use it with my school email (google) for hangouts, where if a student is not comfortable asking questions out loud, they can message me during class. I have even used the remote camera to take pictures of the kids when they were really engaged and my phone was on my desk (I also handle the yearbook & for evidence for standards or to show their parents how well they are working). There are many other ways that I use it as well. To be honest, it's harder for me to find a way not to use it than for me to find ways to use it.
Vykynn said:
I teach language arts in a middle school and the Zenwatch has helped make the transition to a paperless class a bit easier than it was before. I integrate as much technology as I can in the classroom in as many different ways as I can, it helps keep the kids attention and opens the door for many different ideas/options. For example, instead of having to sit at a computer to check whether or not an assignment has been turned in, or carrying around an ipad, or taking my phone out, I can check for notifications on my watch. This is particularly useful when using google classroom and edublogs. I've also found remote link to be invaluable for controlling my projector (via my laptop) while I walk around the room, now I do not need to carry a clicker or remote control and my hands are free! I no longer need to pull out my phone or Ipad to jot down a note/email, etc. I also use my watch to help me with my daily to-do-lists via todoist (todolist). It also allows me to stay hands free when I use it to control music via bluetooth speakers (jazz, classical crossover/synthpop - Mindi Abair & Bond - very fast, upbeat Jazz & wordless pop ) in the classroom. I also use it with my school email (google) for hangouts, where if a student is not comfortable asking questions out loud, they can message me during class. I have even used the remote camera to take pictures of the kids when they were really engaged and my phone was on my desk (I also handle the yearbook & for evidence for standards or to show their parents how well they are working). There are many other ways that I use it as well. To be honest, it's harder for me to find a way not to use it than for me to find ways to use it.
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All fabulous ideas! Thanks!!!
damn
I have EXACTLY the same issue, holder of strap just disconnected from watch body.
looks like it's a bad design and eventually it will fail on all zenwatches. now it's time to figure it out, how this can be repaired.
Sorry for that.
It appears to be zenwatch 1, not 2.
ZW2 has different mounts, apparently one piece from mount to mount.
Zenwatch Lug fell off
I had the same problem with my Zenwatch. Accidently dropped it on the floor and the lug fell off. No obvious way to re-attach it. Just past one-year warranty period, so I'll have to cover the cost. I'll try to get a quote from the service agent first before deciding whether or not to have it repaired.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please let me know. Cheers, Thomas

Maybe in the near future we can make calls (crossing fingers)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
AndroidPolice updated their article with Huaweis response. They essentially did everything but answer the main question although they did hint at adding things that might be useful in the future.
Pilz said:
Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I've seen one person use it that I know and its really funny to watch. I can't imagine how much battery it would use and i personally wouldn't bother with it. There's a reason why the LTE/3G smart watches have a battery that's 2x bugger than the standard one
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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0.0 said:
Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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I'll try to test it out sometime this week, if I forget send me a messgae. I'm a full-time college student so I tend to forget the little things like testing it out.
I'm obviously an Android person because Apple bothers me but I respect everyone's choice for mobile devices. Its interesting to see your take on it since you have owned both of them.
Now there are some smart watches can be used to make a phone call already.But I don't think it's a real need calling via a watch,considering the smart watch is much smaller than a phone,if it' s designed too big,there is not convenience and comfort anylonger.
While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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Couldn't agree more!
It seems odd that people are vocally against the phone call option. The whole point of the watch is to not have to pull out their "phone" lol.
I actually returned my urbane after three days because the lack of phone support, something I didn't even think of when buying a smart watch but became a glaring omission during real life usage (cooking/toddler/car/etc).
Once the Apple watch released it was simply a matter of when, not if. I'm pretty stoked that we won't have to wait for 3rd gen hardware to get it.
If the manufacture can fix the battery issue or it will be hard to make a call for long time.
I use (mini dialer) for phone calls and (wear messenger) for texting on watch. Both are available on google play and work great.
I'm more excited to have the speaker for automated tasker randomness. I currently have a tasker profile where if I say to my watch, "Ok Google, Show me what you can do." My phone's speaker starts talking, "Okay, this is what i can do, I can tell you the time, show your notifications, reply to messages and hangup on your wife bla bla bla.." I would love to have that reply on my watch directly.
I also have another fun one where if someone is telling me a bogus story/lying I click an icon and "Why you always lyin" plays on my phone.
Think of the fun possibilities!
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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Yeah I usually get 1-2 days of usage which is good enough for me. I am running the latest update that got pushed out without any issues. If seems to fix the Bluetooth bug and some other ones which is a good thing. The Huawei watch is underated especially when you look at the Moto 360 gen 2 which sucks.

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