So I own an xperia z3 and I am upgrading to a nexus 5x because my z3 is starting to have some troubles from what I am guessing are wear and tear.
I did however notice today that the Z3 despite having a release for android 7 will not be officially getting an android 7 update even though there was a preview released for the phone.
It's my understanding Qualcomm may be pulling driver support and that may play a part in the axing of the phone's ability to get a full release despite the fact that previews already exist. I don't know if this is fact or just speculation, but I am curious as to how much power Qualcomm would have to pull driver support for a nexus device to halt progress on a given phone. I'd certainly rather stick to the Nexus brand but I'm also wondering if the speculation over the z3 is correct, could the same thing happen to other Qualcomm devices?
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So I own an xperia z3 and I am upgrading to a nexus 5x because my z3 is starting to have some troubles from what I am guessing are wear and tear.
I did however notice today that the Z3 despite having a release for android 7 will not be officially getting an android 7 update even though there was a preview released for the phone.
It's my understanding Qualcomm may be pulling driver support and that may play a part in the axing of the phone's ability to get a full release despite the fact that previews already exist. I don't know if this is fact or just speculation, but I am curious as to how much power Qualcomm would have to pull driver support for a nexus device to halt progress on a given phone. I'd certainly rather stick to the Nexus brand but I'm also wondering if the speculation over the z3 is correct, could the same thing happen to other Qualcomm devices?
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The Nexus 5 just got unofficial Nougat and has the same Qualcomm chipset. I wouldn't worry. As long as the community is healthy for the device (with an SD 800/801) in question, I don't see why it can't eventually get Nougat.
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More signs of a possible flood of new devices on the way to coincide with the release of the Window Phone update codenamed Mango. There are currently a few rumored HTC phones in the works with the higher hardware specs then currently available. So keep your eyes peeled and here is to hoping they are built better than the initial offerings.
Source - http://wmpoweruser.com/two-new-htc-windows-phone-7-5-handsets-pass-through-bluetooth-certification/
I mean official-wise and community-wise. I've never owned a tablet and want to buy this one(used, unfortunately due to tight budget), I am more of a developer(though have no plans of developing right now) so might want to tweak the device here and there.
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I mean official-wise and community-wise. I've never owned a tablet and want to buy this one(used, unfortunately due to tight budget), I am more of a developer(though have no plans of developing right now) so might want to tweak the device here and there.
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Considering that the OG Nexus 7 is still supported, I'd say you have at LEAST a year left, but likely 2-3
Officially goog supports devices for 18 months, which means 3 major updates (as they generally release a major update in the summer and winter)
While goog does not announce devices ahead of time, it would not be unreasonable to expect a 2014 N7 in the summer.
The 2012 N7 will be recieving it's final update soon, there is a high likelyhood that 4.4.3 will be coming in the future.
It will be unlikely that it gets 4.5/5.0/whatever is coming in the summer.
Unofficially even the NS is still supported officially by CM and the like. (there will be a point that they have to drop it from official support like they did for the N1 though)
Unofficially unofficially even the N1 has an unofficial CM11 rom, so rom wise it is still reasonably up to date.
It really depends on how far on the Official support <--- ---> Unofficial support line you are on.
Hi folks
We all saw the new android L and how cool it is
So is there any chance that it'll be available on our xperia s ?
zaidx said:
Hi folks
We all saw the new android L and how cool it is
So is there any chance that it'll be available on our xperia s ?
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If you're talking about official update - no. Sony stopped development for out phone with 4.1.2
But I'm sure there will be unofficial ROM here on XDA
yes i'm talking about unofficial of course
but i saw that raymanfx is no longer here in xperia s section so i thought that it might take a while to get the update on our device
My crystal ball isn't very good, we can't predict yet what drivers are going to be broken with Android L. If not much changes, a port to Android L is very likely, but otherwise we'll be stuck at KK or maybe the Android L builds will be less functional. All things we can't know yet.
Also, RaymanFX isn't the only developer for the fuji platform so if he develops for a bunch of other devices now, that doesn't mean our devices are getting no love. We have Android 4.4.4 based ROMs already, what more could we ask for at the moment?
To see if Android L will be supported, the buildable sources for the final version will need to be released. Right now is much too early to speculate. I'm quite hopeful as well, although I'm planning on getting the next Nexus phone or a Nexus 5 if I can't wait any longer, having a phone for 2 years is enough for me.
android L on xperia s
clearly no android L will be coming to xperia s
How to know when ?
There have not yet any release...
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syawalx said:
clearly no android L will be coming to xperia s
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Many people said that for KitKat .
Xperia S has the necessary power, remains to be seen for basic compatibility...
Xperia S has a really good hardware, I hope it will be enough for Android L
U know what
Sony should learn from Motorola
They are updating old handsets to kitkat like droid Razer and atrix HD.AND SONY doesn't
nisu4717 said:
U know what
Sony should learn from Motorola
They are updating old handsets to kitkat like droid Razer and atrix HD.AND SONY doesn't
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Are we going to be ranting about this again? Those Motorola devices don't have a Snapdragon S3, do they? No, the Razr HD and M have an S4 Plus (the older Razr doesn't get an update to KK), and the Atrix HD also has an S4 Plus. You see where I'm getting at? I'm pretty sure we would have gotten to Android 4.2 if Qualcomm hadn't dropped the Snapdragon S3. It's a hardware problem, can you still not get that by now?
Yeah Sony shouldn't have used such an old SoC, we all knew that but we still bought the thing. Right now the phone is over 2 and a half years old, you can't expect any updates anymore, not even Motorola does that: Atrix HD and those Razr's aren't 2 years old yet.
I'm not saying Sony isn't to blame, the Xperia T should have gotten KitKat but didn't, and it took way too long to get KitKat on even the newer devices. It's insane to see Sony take over half a year while Motorola is faster than the Google Play Edition devices. The Sony skin isn't even that different from Holo.
If quick official updates are important to you, learn your lesson and get a Nexus or GPE device. Moaning about what Sony should do doesn't help since A) the hardware doesn't support it (without straying from official drivers) and B) Sony will never learn. Updates have been an issue since the Xperia X10, the very first Android phone they made.
But the great thing about Android is how open it is, at least compared to other handset os'es, so at least we're getting unofficial KitKat updates and I bet there will be Android L ports. If not for RaymanFX, deedwar and the other dev's, I would have gotten a Nexus 5 months ago.
Samsung have disappointed me with updates for a while now. I'm ditching Samsung from my note 3 after 4 and 5 have failed to impress. I'm considering the nexus 6 2015 but this new Sony has caught my eye. What are Sony like for updates on unlocked phones?
How much wait is there between a new android version and sony releasing theirs generally. Do they have a set policy on how long they support device updates.
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What do you mean by "unlocked" phones? Do you mean phones with their bootloader unlocked (which you can still update via Sony's own Flash Tool or carrier-unlocked phones?
The wait between a new Android version and Sony releasing it has improved significantly through the years. This is, in my opinion, largely due to them no longer loading as many propriety software on their phones and keeping as close to AOSP as possible.
And no, there is no set policy on how long they support device updates. But if you refer to a recent official statement on Lollipop 5.1 rollout, you'll notice that they included the Xperia Z, which was released back in Feb 2013.
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What do you mean by "unlocked" phones? Do you mean phones with their bootloader unlocked (which you can still update via Sony's own Flash Tool or carrier-unlocked phones?
The wait between a new Android version and Sony releasing it has improved significantly through the years. This is, in my opinion, largely due to them no longer loading as many propriety software on their phones and keeping as close to AOSP as possible.
And no, there is no set policy on how long they support device updates. But if you refer to a recent official statement on Lollipop 5.1 rollout, you'll notice that they included the Xperia Z, which was released back in Feb 2013.
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I meant carrier unlocked. I'll buy sim free whatever I choose.
Thanks for that info.
How soon is significantly?
My note 3 took until around june/july to get lolipop, even then it's full of bugs with no 5.1 in sight.
Sony began its rollout of 5.0 in mid-March: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03...lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact/ in certain markets, and continued to do so in batches in end-March, early-April and finally early-June for the older Xperia Z.
My Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition is still (officially) on 4.4.2. Doubt it'll ever get to lick a lollipop.
Sony is notoriously slow to update.
Sony is not slower than the others, and my z3 compact got updated directly to 5.0.2 though I don't really remember (March/April) when that happened and got updated to 5.1.1 around late July. Having had an s5 at the same time, I find them more reliable than Samsung as far as updates are concerned. And flashing a different official firmware to get updated quicker is really easy too.
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Also my old Z1 still gets the updates just a few weeks after my z3c.
Been with Sony since K series years ago. I have to disagree. They are usually last to the table. Plus their rollout structure is archaic. One region at a time for up to six weeks, ridiculous.
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Been with Sony since K series years ago. I have to disagree. They are usually last to the table. Plus their rollout structure is archaic. One region at a time for up to six weeks, ridiculous.
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I've been using Sony devices since K750 and they have improved when it comes to update rollouts. In my own experience, Samsung is the slowest to roll out, given the mind-bogging number of models they have. Like I mentioned earlier, my Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition hasn't even seen Lollipop yet and I doubt it will ever be rolled out for my device.
My Z1 has gotten more than 5 updates and its still on version A that means that its still gonna get updated to newer version, i have to say they have improved really really much in these last few years ! they have really started to update more and for bit older flagships too ! for me id say when google relases update, then 2-3 months and sony relases and update comes to my phone about a week after that. im on nordic region (sim free ofc) but i heard there are some delays on some regions, could be 4 weeks even. Carriers are always slow to convert, good thing they dont do that in here !
Having owned the Z3 on T-Mobile, I personally won't buy another Sony device unless the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable. To pay that big of a premium is one thing, but to pay it on a locked device is another. Fool me once....
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Having owned the Z3 on T-Mobile, I personally won't buy another Sony device unless the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable. To pay that big of a premium is one thing, but to pay it on a locked device is another. Fool me once....
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if you even think about unlocking your bootloader, why do you buy variants ? i always buy sim free unlocked phone !
The A50 differs from the other A-series devices in terms of having an Exynos 9610 which has seen practically zero development and poor GSI compatibility. However, finally we have an Android One device with practically the same chipset.
The Motorola Action One comes with the Exynos 9609 which is the same as 9610 apart from having a 100 MHz lower clock speed. In the past, we had instances of Android One firmware being ported to similar devices, so it is possible for a capable developer to be able to create a functional port.
Of course, bugs are inevitable, especially in the areas of camera and wireless connectivity but hopefully with the right combination of blobs it might be possible to have a daily driver. Again, at this point there is nothing more to go on rather than hope, but it is great to have a sister device running stock Android.
So what do you think about future development prospects? Is there any developer with an A50 willing to have a go once the firmware for the One Action becomes available?
Nice let's Hope ?
Motorola one vision is already out since May, and it's exynos 9609 as well, running Android one.
You can check one vision forum if anyone is interested in system/vendor dump. I got it uploaded a while back.