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Want out of your cell plan for little or no money?

There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
What are the fees for the Get Out member?
Register a Get Out profile for Free! By creating a Get Out profile, Celltradeusa allows you to gauge interest in your plan before you decide to become a paid member.
There is a fee of $19.99 to gain unlimited access once you are satisfied with your response. The membership will not expire until you successfully transfer your contract responsibility to someone else.
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You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.

does it really work or is this a scam?

Send me $50 and I'll tell you.

GaryJ51 said:
Send me $50 and I'll tell you.
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It really does work, it just puts you in contact with someone who wants to take over your contract. You don't have to go through them once you have someone to take it over, it can all be done through sprint.

But wait a moment. If you sell your cellphone like the HTC Evo for 500 on Ebay you can cancel for 200 bucks and still get 300 bucks extra minus Ebay fees and such but you get 250 still so yeah. Thats silly.

Yes this website does work, I used it to get onto someone's sero plan. Also sprint annually makes changes to their contract sometime after new years. Which allows you to get out off contract

Contract transfers are very common. Go on Craigslist and see how many people are trying to get somebody to take over their Clearwire account. That's how I got out of my contract with that joke of a service provider.
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ok let me get this straight
For $20 I can sell my contract to someone else,i don't have to pay the $200 eft, my name is no longer on that contract and I get to keep my evo!? Sounds too good to be true.
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why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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can i get your discount?

And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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cuz i like the phone and the community but dont care much for cell phone companys and thier silly contracts

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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Unless you know somebody at Verizon that can get you in, they won't activate it. Some people say you can use some of the smaller providers, but that will vary. But, hey, you can use it for everything else besides phone and data. Like... camera?
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mrono said:
There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.
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Good to know, thanks mrono, curious what contract terms you selected, were you able to get deeper discounts as a Get In member or does Sprint verify any discount eligibility post transfer?

I did it with US Cellular, actually the salesman suggested it. I transferred my account to my baby mamas name and she got to use my phone ( she wanted my blackberry but didn't want to pay for one) it was a win win for me.

I have a free way:
Found this out by accident with at&t and recently did it twice more through verizon. Look at their coverage map ahead of time and find an area a good distance away that has zero coverage. Find a street in the town where the void is located. Get your story straight ahead of time. The first time I really did move into a spot that had no coverage. The other times I wanted out I just made up an excuse that I was moving due to work. Ask them if there is coverage. They will check and tell you no. Act disappointed and ask what your options are then. They will let you close your account with no ETF. Downside is you won't be able to port over your number though.

this site has been around for a while so it's definitely legit. There are usually a number of SERO accounts up on it. Only downside is you lose your number if you care about that. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only one attached to my cell phone number.

I was thinking of doing this to move from AT&T to T-Mobile but I wasn't sure what would happen to the contracts on the 3 lines of my family plan. I was told that I could transfer each line on my family plan separately to 3 different people.
The AT&T rep told me that after I transfered my accounts, each person taking over the line would have a month-to-month with no contract and could cancel at any time without paying an ETF. This sounded completely wrong to me so I called back later and a different rep told me the same thing.
I was sure the person taking over my account would be committed to the remainder of my original contract. Does it make any sense to anyone that they'd be able to cancel immediately without paying an ETF? Could it have something to do with how long I've been with AT&T or that I have a business premiere account?
Thanks,
Alan
P.S. Oops, sorry I just realized I posted this in a forum for a phone that's not on AT&T. Would still appreciate any info anyone has, thanks.

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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How do you get away with that??? I have only two phones on my account and I pay $160 unlimited everything.
I thought each extra phone was another $10 or $20??? four should be $200.

JUMP! and the $0 down Note 3

I have 2 lines that I put the $0 Down Note 3's on. Both lines have JUMP!
From my understanding after speaking to a rep is; I will have paid the following up until my 6 month upgrade date.
JUMP: $60.00
6 Month EIP: $177.00
Initial tax: $58.76
Total spent at time of 6 month upgrade: $295.76
For me, I don't count the $60.00 spent on JUMP! I only count a small amount since I would spend $8.00 dollars a month on the insurance anyway. So $2.00 a month for JUMP! Brings my total to $247.76
Also, if you want to go with the Nexus 5 straight from Google or any non financed phone in 6 months, you don't have to upgrade, you can just turn your phone in which will eliminate future EIP payments.
$766.00 - 247.76 = $518.24 remaining balance. At 6 months I might be able to get that much selling the Note 3 on the open market depending on the Android market.
To me it's a no brainer going with the Note 3 at 0 down as it leaves me with decent options at 6 months. I'll probably be bored with the N3 at about that time if not a little earlier.
Did anyone else go for or reject the $0 down Note 3 with JUMP? And why?

No you're reasoning is pretty good. Little to no benefit in paying full and selling yourself unless you want to upgrade earlier then 6 months.

Also remember that the tax is not included in EIP and although you're paying the tax, it's not part of the balance on the phone. Technically, the balance that will be wiped with JUMP is $531 ($708-$177).

Decided not to go with JUMP because I wouldn't pay for insurance anyways.
After CA tax, 6 months of jump would cost me $300.
Given that I can get the phone from Negri for $650~
I can sell the phone after a whole year for $350~

Kawaisa said:
Decided not to go with JUMP because I wouldn't pay for insurance anyways.
After CA tax, 6 months of jump would cost me $300.
Given that I can get the phone from Negri for $650~
I can sell the phone after a whole year for $350~
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Certainly but don't forget eBay and PayPal fees.

HughesNet said:
Certainly but don't forget eBay and PayPal fees.
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Just sold my note 2 for $410 on ebay and my Note 1 for something similar to that, Even after fees, you're on top.

Kawaisa said:
Just sold my note 2 for $410 on ebay and my Note 1 for something similar to that, Even after fees, you're on top.
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I don't doubt it. Just for me not by enough to bother. Then again I upgrade more often then 6 months so I sell myself every time as well. If I lasted the 6 months though I would just hand it in personally and I take the $0 down so I have the choice

Kawaisa said:
Just sold my note 2 for $410 on ebay and my Note 1 for something similar to that, Even after fees, you're on top.
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same conclusion here.

I ended up doing JUMP as well. I get insurance on my phone plus I can get a new phone every 6 months. I'll most likely get a new phone every year but it's still nice to know that I'm not locked into one phone for 2 years like I have been in the past. I know a lot of review sites hate JUMP, but they all seem to leave out that it also include insurance for your phone.

I ended up going with Jump as well since it seems my cost analyst shows the 6 month mark being the most advantageous time to move on or stick it out until 11-13 months.
Prepaid is the $30/month plan with full cost out of pocket up front.
$0 down - Plan A is the standard $50 plan with 2.5G data + Jump. No taxes included.
$0 down - Plan B is the same plan WITHOUT the Jump. No taxes included.
Market value is the expected private party sale price over time and is based on historical S3, S4, and Note 2 data.
The TMO payoff is just that as time goes on.
You mileage may vary...
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If you upgrade your phone every 6 months, jump works but if you plan on holding it a year, I don't think its a good deal, at the 12 month mark you will pay $474 for the Note 3 yet turn it in for free and who knows if T-Mobile will have these zero down deals in 12 months or even in 6 months because if they get rid of the zero down deals it completely kills the deal!

^^perhaps, but if you would even consider paying for insurance without jump, then what is the extra $2/month really costing you? I'll gladly pay $24/year on the chance that I might want to trade my phone in at any point after 6 months.

Can you explain more about this JUMP 6months trade in thingy? Is there any catches?

sieudaochich said:
Can you explain more about this JUMP 6months trade in thingy? Is there any catches?
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Only catch is your phone has to be in decent condition without water damage I think.
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I put 180 down
I did not qualify for 0 down because I have had no phone credit history (used metro pcs for the better part of my cell phone life)
Even though I have killer credit, but oh well. Jump is worth it if you want insurance. Verizon makes you pay for insurance on top of their jump like program.
I am not interested in buying a 700 dollar phone and not putting some sort of insurance on it. I have known too many people that have made that mistake. Surely it is a scam if you never use it, but phones drop and you gotta insure that
I plan on upgrading after a year to the note 4 or whatever seems good at the time. I am not willing to jump after 6 months.
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Only catch is your phone has to be in decent condition without water damage I think.
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This is correct. If it does have damage then you have to put an extra 60 or so towards the new phone to fix the old one

Agreed. Jump is easy to decide if you get insurance anyway.

Getting jump on a popular phone like the Note 3 is a sucker's move for the simple fact you can sell it outright and probably get more than what the balance remaining would be.
Jump for my situation worked out better because I ended up getting the LG G2 with no money down and who knows what that'll be worth after six month so I like the option to be able to trade it in and have that balance wiped out.
But if I had the Note 3, I would pass on jump
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shook187 said:
Getting jump on a popular phone like the Note 3 is a sucker's move for the simple fact you can sell it outright and probably get more than what the balance remaining would be.
Jump for my situation worked out better because I ended up getting the LG G2 with no money down and who knows what that'll be worth after six month so I like the option to be able to trade it in and have that balance wiped out.
But if I had the Note 3, I would pass on jump
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I agree with the resale value argument. So it still comes down to the insurance for me. A $700 galaxy note should hold its value, but it's also expensive enough that I feel it must be insured. And that makes jump a no-brainer. Without insurance, I'd want a super tough, nuclear blast type case for it and this phone is big enough.

shook187 said:
Getting jump on a popular phone like the Note 3 is a sucker's move for the simple fact you can sell it outright and probably get more than what the balance remaining would be.
Jump for my situation worked out better because I ended up getting the LG G2 with no money down and who knows what that'll be worth after six month so I like the option to be able to trade it in and have that balance wiped out.
But if I had the Note 3, I would pass on jump
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Think you can get $530 for it used? after 6 months? Cash? Cause thats what tmobile will give you? With no deposit anyway. No deposit makes Jump very worthwhile to me.

I went with jump and zero down. The rep told me you can't use the installment plan without Jump.

Note 4 for $620?

This is a quote from T-Mob section
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I have the same question about whether or not the AT&T Note 4 will work perfectly the same as a T-mobile version on the T-mobile network. I don't know why no one has mentioned how much cheaper it is to just go set up a new AT&T account to get the discount at Best Buy. You could buy it for $300 minus the $200 trade-in promotion + $70 in sales tax. So $170, then you have $40 activation + $60 for one month service + $350 ETF after 15 days, then get it unlocked. So the total out of pocket cost for the AT&T version is $620. Why would you buy the $750 T-mobile version, which would be $815 after sales tax. You save nearly $200 after all is said and done. Am I missing anything here? I haven't seen a single person mention doing this on this forum or over at androidcentral.
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Do you think this actually would work?
If this is doable, I'd be willing sacrifice on locked bootloader for this price...

EDIT: Nevermind.

Why wouldn't it work? Its a bit of a hassle, but really not that much work. If you read through the AT&T contract terms and their FAQ section, paying the ETF will allow you to unlock the phone. Like I said in the other forum, why is nobody mentioning this anywhere. Like someone else mentioned, the $200 Best Buy trade in promotion is still going and not just for preorders anymore. My math, if anything, is on the conservative side. The only pain is that you have to wait at least 15 days before paying the ETF and then requesting the unlock code from AT&T.
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This is a quote from T-Mob section
Do you think this actually would work?
If this is doable, I'd be willing sacrifice on locked bootloader for this price...
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Well ****, I might do this. I'll wait to pull the trigger on the offer so the release of the Nexus 6 falls within the return period and if I do it I'll report back (thought I don't know if it'll be much help at that point).

What about remaining balance of phone is due when canceled?

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What about remaining balance of phone is due when canceled?
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Doesn't apply when you sign a 2 year contract. You put 300 up front for the phone. You're "buying" it...not "leasing it with the option to buy" like with Next. The $350 ETF is to guarantee they recoup most of their money.
And people don't want the AT&T version because It's locked tight unlike the tmobile version (usually anyways)

So like I said, I was probably a little conservative with the ATT costs. IF you get the $200 Best Buy trade in promotion, there's also the possibility of getting the other $50 Best Buy Reward Members trade in promotion as well. The ETF will also likely by a little less since you have to have completed 1 month of service before you can cancel the contract. I'm also figuring the ETF had sales tax applied to it since the AT&T policy language quotes $325 as their base ETF. So really its possible you'd be looking at a total cost closer to $545.
Since I'm with T-mobile in their Jump program, my cost for getting the T-mobile version is $750+$67 tax = $817, and I'm having to pay $10/month for Jump. I think I'd rather just pay the $545 for the ATT version and stop paying for Jump, which has turned out to be a terrible deal. Right now my Note 3 has an EIP balance of $380 that gets wiped clean if I "Jump" to the Note 4. But with all the accessories I've bought for my Note 3 (extra Anker batteries, chargers, multiple cases, etc), and the fact its in perfect condition, I could easily get more than $380 if I were to sell it on Swappa. I really didn't do the math on Jump when I signed up. If I were to "Jump" to the Note 4, I'd be losing out on the $200 trade-in promotion, plus I'd be paying $10/month for Jump for at least another year before I get another good phone. Is it really worth $320+ to stick with the T-mobile "Jump" program for the next year? I don't think it makes sense unless you know you'll use the insurance component of Jump.

The other $50 promotion ended on the 18th.

i did this with att but instead of 1 phone i got 5 lines on my plan then canceled 3 (there's only 2 of us on my plan), so the other 3 went straight to ebay.
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And final question, does ATT allow more then one account per person? I already have one with unlimited plan..

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And final question, does ATT allow more then one account per person? I already have one with unlimited plan..
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Yes I have two accounts with them.

Call AT&T Retentions for Note 4 deal!!!

After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.

MattMJB0188 said:
After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.
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Yep, I've gotten 3 free phones ($600), 4 contracts given an early upgrade by up to 6 months, and probably $1000 in bill discounts by calling them over the last 7 years being polite, nice, and just asking them if they can help with stuff. Not happy with the whole locked bootloader garbage but they've always hooked me up on that end. Just call and tell them what's up and ask them if they think this is possible because you like AT&T and at least want to give them a chance to keep a customer, unless you owe them money or have burned them in the past most of the time they'll do their best to give you what you want. Just be polite, funny, and nice is they key. I called once and talked to a lady from an Atlanta AT&T call center and we ended up talking about how amazing her fried chicken recipe was and how her kids/grand kids loved it and I got a free phone ($200 waved) and 5 months early on my upgrade. It's crazy but it works lol. Good luck

Clienterror said:
Yep, I've gotten 3 free phones ($600), 4 contracts given an early upgrade by up to 6 months, and probably $1000 in bill discounts by calling them over the last 7 years being polite, nice, and just asking them if they can help with stuff. Not happy with the whole locked bootloader garbage but they've always hooked me up on that end. Just call and tell them what's up and ask them if they think this is possible because you like AT&T and at least want to give them a chance to keep a customer, unless you owe them money or have burned them in the past most of the time they'll do their best to give you what you want. Just be polite, funny, and nice is they key. I called once and talked to a lady from an Atlanta AT&T call center and we ended up talking about how amazing her fried chicken recipe was and how her kids/grand kids loved it and I got a free phone ($200 waved) and 5 months early on my upgrade. It's crazy but it works lol. Good luck
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Exactly. I was very polite and thanked him. I mentioned how my bill has never been late and is always paid in full. I was actually quite lucky because they didn't have to do that.
While I'm all down for unlocked bootloaders and root, the truth is, I tinker with my phone too much then. Its gets tiring having to switch roms every week. So I think I'm just gonna do my own thing and call it a day. While I fully support those going to the T-Mobile route, I just found that too much of a hassle. That and very rude T-Mobile staff.

Not only have I had retention credit me to help out a bit. I had them upgrade my wifes line a year early and next day her a new 32gb white s4 before our honey moon last year for free.

I see Sprint has the Edge for $840 as opposed to ATT's whopping $945! Going to call Retentions later and see if they will price match. Thanks for the heads up OP.

Let us know if you were able to get one out of contract for less than full price! I tried 3 times already on phone and chat; retention was ready to let me cancel rather than give me anything to stay. I have always been extremely nice on the phone and usually get deals... but am not getting anything to lower the price of this phone.

bleuiko said:
Let us know if you were able to get one out of contract for less than full price! I tried 3 times already on phone and chat; retention was ready to let me cancel rather than give me anything to stay. I have always been extremely nice on the phone and usually get deals... but am not getting anything to lower the price of this phone.
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Technically this one out of contract as it was on AT&T Next's program. Instead of paying $825.99, they gave it to me for $749.46 (T-Mobile's note 4 price).

MattMJB0188 said:
After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.
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Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?

Ghetto Geeksta said:
Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?
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Are you also on the Next plan? I have found that CSR shut down as soon as I tell them I want to buy it outright and not on Next.

Ghetto Geeksta said:
Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?
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Probably, either way you made out good with what you wanted one way or another ?

bleuiko said:
Are you also on the Next plan? I have found that CSR shut down as soon as I tell them I want to buy it outright and not on Next.
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Yes im on the Next plan, if you're buying it outright you should be able to find a good deal online. You may want to try back after you buy your phone.

Ghetto Geeksta said:
Yes im on the Next plan, if you're buying it outright you should be able to find a good deal online. You may want to try back after you buy your phone.
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Do you all know if you on Next plan and you payed off your phone and you want to get new device you have to trade phone you just payed off. Loose , loose on your end. Better is to buy phone some where else for lower price because on Next plan you will end up paying full price on phone and do not get phone. Info: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/next.html#fbid=CUe4oUP4J4k

norbarb said:
Do you all know if you on Next plan and you payed off your phone and you want to get new device you have to trade phone you just payed off. Loose , loose on your end. Better is to buy phone some where else for lower price because on Next plan you will end up paying full price on phone and do not get phone. Info: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/next.html#fbid=CUe4oUP4J4k
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You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.

Clienterror said:
You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.
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How did you ends up paying $19 a month ? if you choose 18 months Next plan payment you ends up paying $34.42 x 18 = $619 plus you need to trade your phone. $25 line discount is for access not for a phone. If you agree to 2-years contract you pay $15+$25(discount) =$40. I and my wife (accountant) calculate all options and best way is to get phone on some other side then on Next plan. You will ends up paying full price on phone whatever plan and phone you choose from At&t..

norbarb said:
How did you ends up paying $19 a month ? if you choose 18 months Next plan payment you ends up paying $34.42 x 18 = $619 plus you need to trade your phone. $25 line discount is for access not for a phone. If you agree to 2-years contract you pay $15+$25(discount) =$40. I and my wife (accountant) calculate all options and best way is to get phone on some other side then on Next plan. You will ends up paying full price on phone whatever plan and phone you choose from At&t..
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I completely agree with you. Next is AT&T's way of charging you the same but making you feel better OR to get you to change phones all the time and give them the old phone back which they can sell for more. The best way is to get the phone out of contract and pay $15 a month under the "bring your own device" discount. My goal is to get the phone out of contract for less than the crazy $825.99 that AT&T is asking for.
Sample Calculation For All Options:
Note 4 out of contract ($825.99) + 2-yr of service with bring your own device discount ($15 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Note 4 with Next 12 ($41.30 x 20 mo) + 2-yr of service with Next discount ($15 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Note 4 with 2-yr contract ($299.99) + 2-yr of service with no discount ($40 x 24 mo) = $1259.99
Sample Calculation for Next 12 to make yourself feel better but not really:
Note 4 with Next 12 and service discount ($16.30 x 20 mo) + 2-yr of service with Next discount ($40 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Let's also consider that you turn in your phone at 12 months like AT&T wants you to; you end up paying $495.60 out of pocket and end up with nothing. AT&T, on the other hand, has to pay for the rest of the bill for the device, which is $330.39. If they could sell the Note 4 in a year for more than $330.39, which of course they could, then they are making even more money of you. You may wish to argue that under the "make yourself feel better" option, you're only paying $16.30 a month so after one year you pay much less than $495.60; great deal, right? No, you just paid the rest under the service plan. AT&T will gladly take your money.

Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.

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Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.
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Next plan is created for people like you.

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You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.
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Exactly. I plan on doing this.
Anyone else get a deal through retentions?

I did this, I was pissed the ATT version was more expensive than the Tmobile version. Called retentions and complained, they have me a $180 credit. I since sold the ATT version and got a Tmobile one anyway.

Spawn026 said:
Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.
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Let me clear your mind. The $25 discount is for your line which they normally charge you $40. With the discount you pay $15 instead of $40. Your $41.30 payment stay the same no change what so ever.

T-Mobile Rebate?

Anybody else taking advantage of the $325 T-Mobile rebate? With new phone deals as rare as they are these days, I jumped on that ****! After 18 years with AT&T (well, it was Pacific Bell then Cingular THEN AT&T), I'm moving to T-Mobile and saving $100 across 5 lines, plus everyone has unlimited voice/text/data, PLUS free Netflix, AND a $325 rebate on the Pixel 2 XL.

I'm going to switch from Verizon to T-Mobile and get this deal. I would not have been able to justify the cost of a Pixel 2 XL 128 GB otherwise.

T-Mobile Promotion: Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL
You mean this one? OMG, that deal is so sweet, makes me so envy on your guys in US...

It really isn't a deal for existing customers. Every new promotion T-MOBILE implements, it ignores existing customers.

so the terms do not say if or how long you have to stay with them. as they have no contracts can you switch a couple months later??? also does their senior discount plan qualify for this promotion?? i am on fi averaging less than $40 a month,on the senior plan it would be $50 by myself but unlimited everything.​

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It really isn't a deal for existing customers. Every new promotion T-MOBILE implements, it ignores existing customers.
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That’s not true. If you’re an existing customer and your port over the phone on a new line you get the deal. As I’m just swapping out my old phone and replacing it with the pixel 2XL I will not. If I added a line I would have

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That’s not true. If you’re an existing customer and your port over the phone on a new line you get the deal. As I’m just swapping out my old phone and replacing it with the pixel 2XL I will not. If I added a line I would have
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This statement is sort of contradicting. If I'm an existing customer with 2 lines on a family plan, why would I want to create a new line? I have to create and pay for a new line, just to get a deal? That doesn't help me in any way. T-MOBILE isn't allowing people to do what they did last year. Some were able to use the promotion with a current line, but if I have to create a new line this isn't a deal.

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This statement is sort of contradicting. If I'm an existing customer with 2 lines on a family plan, why would I want to create a new line? I have to create and pay for a new line, just to get a deal? That doesn't help me in any way. T-MOBILE isn't allowing people to do what they did last year. Some were able to use the promotion with a current line, but if I have to create a new line this isn't a deal.
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its not contradicting at all. he said it wasn't available to existing customers. I explained it is and this is what you have to do. You not wanting to do it is your prerogative.

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its not contradicting at all. he said it wasn't available to existing customers. I explained it is and this is what you have to do. You not wanting to do it is your prerogative.
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At the end of the day, the average existing TMobile customer isn't going to take this deal. It holds minimal value. It's only used to sway Verizon customers to T-MOBILE.

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At the end of the day, the average existing TMobile customer isn't going to take this deal. It holds minimal value. It's only used to sway Verizon customers to T-MOBILE.
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true but it is still available and some may take advantage of it depending on their needs etc

I'm considering this deal as well. Looks like it's effectively a $169 rebate. My take on what I've read you have to keep your TMO line for 2 months, the cheapest plan is SC unlimited at $65/mo, plus there is a $25 fee for a SIM card. After 2 months you get a prepaid debit card with $324 on it. So $324 - $65 - $65 - $25 = $169. A hassle, but maybe worth $169.

It's not worth it to me, since I currently pay $40 per month, unlimited everything, with MetroPCS. If I switch to Tmobile, that bill goes up to $70 per month, so after the 10th month, it's no longer a good deal for me.

if you do the math, a new line will cost 40-50$ on a family plan depending on which t-mo family plan you're already on.
Do the math and over time you're paying for the phone all over again just to add a new line

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its not contradicting at all. he said it wasn't available to existing customers. I explained it is and this is what you have to do. You not wanting to do it is your prerogative.
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He didn't say that at all. He said "It really isn't a deal for existing customers" as in it's not something an existing customer would want to do. Everyone can take advantage of the deal, but it wasn't designed for current customers. Anyways, it likely has the same terms and conditions as when they had the BOGO LG G6 deal... You must add a new line, but you're ineligible if you had cancelled a line X amount of months prior and you cannot cancel a line for X amount of months after. Any other previous deals that they've made for existing customers required that they change their plans to the new T-Mobile ONE plan. Those of us who are grandfathered in pay less for unlimited than those on the ONE plan and they often do deals to try to entice their grandfathered customers to switch to the new plan.

I am doing this deal, I already have a family plan with 5 lines, so adding a new line will only cost $10 a month with kickback credit. After I get the rebate I will cancel the line.

Im on cricket now and I am going to take advantage of this offer. Some "free" money and i get to see the true speed of the phone, signal wise. Has anyone initiated this deal yet or do we need the phone in hand? I believe it only asks for proof of purchase?

I think its only for the one unlimited plan which is 70$ a month.. what if i dont want the sim card..lol company pays for my phone but saving a buck im good with... They only pay for srrvice
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Just went online.. 75$ a month and 100$ at checkout with no credit check
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If you enable autopay it brings it down to $70, and if you use less than 2 GB, they give you a $10 "kickback" credit. If you are a Costco member they don't charge for sim cards

I am going to add a line to get this deal. I really don't need the new line so once I get the master card I am going to cancel it

If on a family plan, adding a line is only $10-$20 a month. If you have it for 1 month for the gift card to ship, it's not much. Once it shows shipped online, you can cancel. Customer service usually will waive sim card fees as well. Not bad to get $325 back.