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It's any way that i can decrease the memory used.because rightnow this is what im using. Used:317.63 MB Free:285.43MB Total Mem:603.06 MB. I have the everything i could to the sd card.

android-incredible said:
It's any way that i can decrease the memory used.because rightnow this is what im using. Used:317.63 MB Free:285.43MB Total Mem:603.06 MB. I have the everything i could to the sd card.
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Alot of people make the mistake of thinking used memory is a bad thing, this is untrue on the android platform, the more ram being used the better performance you are getting due to the fact android OS knows how to close down applications itself when in need. This is also the reason why app-killer apps are bad not good for your phone. Think about it, ram is kind of like your phones short term memory, it you free that up then it will take longer for it to open processes. Be lucky you are using an AOSP rom, sense roms usually only have about 100 to 150mb of ram free because of all the things senseUI requires. The amount of ram you have free is normal. Unless you get down to like 20mb of ram there is no reason to be concerned whatsoever. If ram wasn't meant to be used then why would they be progressively increasing the amount of it in each new device released?
P.S. with the sound of your concern i can only assume you are coming from a blackberry device prior to your current android.

You are wrong,before my inc2. I had inc1,and before inc1 i had an env2.lol....but i dont now much about android system.
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android-incredible said:
You are wrong,before my inc2. I had inc1,and before inc1 i had an env2.lol....but i dont now much about android system.
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Hey man, it's all good. I just made that assumption because i have lots of friends that came from blackberry, I did myself and anyone that has ran one of those devices knows that you have to constantly watch your ram. Was just trying to give you some info so you don't know not to worry about ram consumption on the android platform.

Ok,bro i just want to learn more about this system.
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android-incredible said:
Ok,bro i just want to learn more about this system.
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No prob man, I'm off work until monday so I've just been bored cycling through the posts in the Inc2 section today lol.

Galaxy Nexus lags hard, ROM/KERNEL doesn't help.

Topic says it all. Stock/CM/Carbon(Linaro)/DU's/pacman/codefire, it doesn't matter which one is installed, my device lags like a *****. I switched to nova launcher from apex (to see if the launcher was causing it all,) and the homescreen scrolls better, but opening apps, doing anything within apps, switching apps and anything not related to the launcher still lags like crazy. I've tried LagFix, different kernels, nothing works. I close apps using the recent apps tab, doesn't help. My GS2 performs leaps and bounds better than this phone. Am I missing something. Is there anything I can do to make this phone not suck? I really want to like the phone. I have the Sprint version.

hollywood084 said:
Topic says it all. Stock/CM/Carbon(Linaro)/DU's/pacman/codefire, it doesn't matter which one is installed, my device lags like a *****. I switched to nova launcher from apex (to see if the launcher was causing it all,) and the homescreen scrolls better, but opening apps, doing anything within apps, switching apps and anything not related to the launcher still lags like crazy. I've tried LagFix, different kernels, nothing works. I close apps using the recent apps tab, doesn't help. My GS2 performs leaps and bounds better than this phone. Am I missing something. Is there anything I can do to make this phone not suck? I really want to like the phone. I have the Sprint version.
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Try to go back to stock using fastboot and Factory image.
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mrgnex said:
Try to go back to stock using fastboot and Factory image.
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I'll try that.
Running some side by side comparison's with my GS2 and GN using system panel, the GS2 always has over 200MB ram available, and the GN has 80 or less. I tried to make sure the same apps were opened (active) on each phone.

That sounds like a factory reset including format system is needed.
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You're running 4.3 right? If not, I suggest you to do it. Flash factory image via fastboot like said above
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Kustaa said:
You're running 4.3 right? If not, I suggest you to do it. Flash factory image via fastboot like said above
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I haven't tried 4.3 yet. Was waiting for most of the issue's to be worked out. Haven't looked into it in a week or two.

Phone is running much better now. Thanks a lot!

What did you do to see the improvement?
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rrrrrichard said:
What did you do to see the improvement?
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He probably was on 4.2.x, which, in recent memory, has been the worst release.

rrrrrichard said:
What did you do to see the improvement?
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Factory reset to stock through fastboot. Stock ran a whole lot better after that. Now I'm running a 4.3 ROM.

ronnie_1712 said:
He probably was on 4.2.x, which, in recent memory, has been the worst release.
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I was on 4.2.2. I never read any complaints about lag, or about it being a bad version...anywhere. Would have got off of it sooner if that were the case.

I upgraded to 4.3 with a factory reset. Not any lag issues at all. 4.3 actually seemed to have made android run more efficiently on my Gnex.
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Read about TRIM implementation @4.3. thats the main improvement over 4.2.2 IMO
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hollywood084 said:
I was on 4.2.2. I never read any complaints about lag, or about it being a bad version...anywhere. Would have got off of it sooner if that were the case.
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The whole lot of us whined about it on xda, g+, twitter etc

Funny thing is i full wiped and flashed back to 4.1.2 from 4.2.2 and the phone was still lagging. Didn't think it was possible but 4.3 really fixed this phone for me. was battling the lag for over a year. Lagfix trim, filling all the free space and deleting all the files, tried everything that was recommended and nothing helped. Thank you google for finally releasing 4.3
the only lag from 4.3 comes from when I use google navigation. It gets bogged down pretty bad. I think that has to do with the undeniable fact that 1gb of ram is not going to cut it anymore with today's memory consumption from modern apps.

4.3 has brought a host of new problems for me. Lagging and force closes plus a lot of app problems. Enough so that I'm shopping for a new phone which sucks because I love the Gnex.

4.2.1
Android 4.2.1 was the last OTA that android released to my GNex. I put the Warped ROM on, and it was a lagfest, especially when I had all 10gb of my music on it. I had to wipe and reset to 4.2.1 before I could even put on another ROM without it freezing during startup.

Have you see if you have the lastest radio image flash in your bootloader?
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Watch That
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It seems to me like one of the big bottlenecks in the Galaxy Nexus's performance is the abysmal I/O performance.
If anything whatsoever pings the storage, it seems to stall the device. I've had the phone lock up entirely requiring a battery pull by doing enough read/write, something I can't do to older and newer phones I own. Just the Galaxy Nexus.
TRIM in 4.3 helps mitigate it, but I think the fact is something is seriously awful in the Galaxy Nexus I/O stack, presumably on the hardware level, since this is the only device I own that has this issue.

My 4.3 install was acting up (data issues... :\) so I went back to stock 4.2.1 with golden kernel. Phone is running pretty smooth. Seems like the fastboot factory reset did the trick so far. Funny thing about it, I just now realized I flashed the 4.3 kernel. Phone is running really well, so uhh, whatever haha.

[Q] from 32gb to 25gb available?

I noticed after restoring my phone loading lifeless14 that my available storage diminished drastically- 7 GB! I'm sure 25 is more than enough, but an 7gb difference is a little concerning. I actually think I may have noticed it after flashing beanstalk (went lifeless; I just can't find a "stable" custom rom for some reason). Any idea where this overwhelming large chunk of data could've gone, and more importantly, is any of it recoverable?

Well formatting any storage medium will take away some space. I think with just the rom installed and the internal SD formatted is 27gb if you don't have anything installed
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guythmike said:
I noticed after restoring my phone loading lifeless14 that my available storage diminished drastically- 7 GB! I'm sure 25 is more than enough, but an 7gb difference is a little concerning. I actually think I may have noticed it after flashing beanstalk (went lifeless; I just can't find a "stable" custom rom for some reason). Any idea where this overwhelming large chunk of data could've gone, and more importantly, is any of it recoverable?
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Check for a logcat. It'll be in root of SD with stock. And /mnt/shell/emulated/0 if you're running any CM ROM.
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Yes it's 27 gigs with just the stock rom installed. Might be able to get up to 28.5 gb with a barebones aosp rom, but because of the formatting android uses your not going to get the full 32 gb ever
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Well... No matter what formatting you use, the format will always take up space
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Checking for logcat was the first thing I did. And I knew formating would take up space, just had no idea it would take up that much. Most people don't even tip their waiters 20% these days.

Optimized bionic and dalvik libs

I know these are for Qualcomm devices but they seemed to help my toro both in everyday use and benchmarks. Give them a shot and let me know if they help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
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wrong thread

It for qualcomm.. not for our Gnex -maguro- (TIomap)

hepi_hape said:
It for qualcomm.. not for our Gnex -maguro- (TIomap)
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I originally had this thought too, but as said by the thread's contributor @xboxfanj :
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People have reported increases on the Nexus S, which is also not Qualcomm. It won't brick you, so try it and report your results here. If nothing else, you can always restore a backup (or just reflash the ROM you're on, which will also restore the system partition).
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So just try it and if it doesn't work, ditch it.

I tried them. It didnt hurt anything. But I dont know if its making anything better.

jsgraphicart said:
I tried them. It didnt hurt anything. But I dont know if its making anything better.
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As far as I saw in and out of the thread, the vast "improvement" is largely limited to benchmarks... Using the patch, I managed to get my Photon Q (dual-core MSM8960 + 1GB RAM) to score 19404 in AnTuTu (typically it scores ~16500), which almost beats that of a stock Nexus 4. However, since the phone doesn't lag originally, I can't see any improvement in day-to-day usage.
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AndyYan said:
As far as I saw in and out of the thread, the vast "improvement" is largely limited to benchmarks... Using the patch, I managed to get my Photon Q (dual-core MSM8960 + 1GB RAM) to score 19404 in AnTuTu (typically it scores ~16500), which almost beats that of a stock Nexus 4. However, since the phone doesn't lag originally, I can't see any improvement in day-to-day usage.
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It's hard to say if it's smoother than before, but it certainly feels smooth with it.
Not exactly sure what it does. It's not an AppSpy, like Samsung, where it bumps up the freq when it detects an app (such as quadrant).

Do the libs work on nexus 5
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J4M1L_4HMED said:
Do the libs work on nexus 5
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Why not?
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RAM

2 GB of ram yet only about 400-500 MB are useable? The rest is always being chewed up.
Am I the only one experiencing this?

Please read the other post just like this. Welcome to android.
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jmill75 said:
Please read the other post just like this. Welcome to android.
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Which post are you referring to?
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helix031 said:
2 GB of ram yet only about 400-500 MB are useable? The rest is always being chewed up.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
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The bloatware are actively running in the background when you power up the OS. The only way you can gain more RAM is disable the apps or root then delete the apps permanently.

NixxonExxo said:
Which post are you referring to?
Seriously, the Tab Pro forum is smalllllll. It can be found in seconds....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674914
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I'm not new to android. I'm just shocked that they have that much crap running ... I did root it last night. Hoping for a slimrom becoming available... Slimbean on my s2 was by far best experience I had

A significant portion of the memory is used to support the high resolution display rather than for bloat ware. I'm using a Nexus 10 with the same screen resolution and have seen the same complaints. As Android uses a very different memory model than MS-Windows, managing memory much better, it would be better to judge memory deficiency by the lag caused by Android having to reload apps it removed from memory due to low memory.
Basically with Android unused memory is wasted memory.
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