Is it me or what?? in comparison to my edge 7 and Note 5 this screen is washed out.
I've compared all three devices side by side and I can safely conclude that... it's just you.
me thinks i have a bad unit!!! but even the one in the store looks washed out. go figure
Maybe you want to change the screen mode to AMOLED ciname or adaptive.
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Maybe you want to change the screen mode to AMOLED ciname or adaptive.
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Thats what I was thinking.
daraj said:
Is it me or what?? in comparison to my edge 7 and Note 5 this screen is washed out.
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My color on my note 7 look washed out compared to my note 4.
Same here when comparing to my note 5 & s7e
I heard that they toned down the saturation to be more accurate. Waiting for Erica Griffins review
I have my screen set to basic on note 4 and note 7.
I'm no screen expert (old eyes!) but here's what I've noticed. On all my previous Galaxy phones, Basic and Photo modes were the least saturated and had a noticeably more yellow/warmer tone. Cinema was the most saturated and had the bluest/coolest tone. Adaptive was a bit less saturated than Cinema but still a much cooler/blue tone than Photo and Basic. On the Note 7, Adaptive has, by far, the coolest tone and Cinema is much warmer and closer to Photo and Basic. Also, none of the modes come lose to the intense saturation that previous Cinema modes had. It seems to me that this is a deliberate calibration and not a product of the display hardware because when I enable "video enhancer" under Advanced settings, I get a huge bump in saturation for youtube and Netflix. Still love the phone though!
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I'm no screen expert (old eyes!) but here's what I've noticed. On all my previous Galaxy phones, Basic and Photo modes were the least saturated and had a noticeably more yellow/warmer tone. Cinema was the most saturated and had the bluest/coolest tone. Adaptive was a bit less saturated than Cinema but still a much cooler/blue tone than Photo and Basic. On the Note 7, Adaptive has, by far, the coolest tone and Cinema is much warmer and closer to Photo and Basic. Also, none of the modes come lose to the intense saturation that previous Cinema modes had. It seems to me that this is a deliberate calibration and not a product of the display hardware because when I enable "video enhancer" under Advanced settings, I get a huge bump in saturation for youtube and Netflix. Still love the phone though!
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Completely agree with you on that, it's what I've noticed so far
So are you guys noticing like a washed out color on the bottom left of your phone? Is that normal? When looking at dark gray this part of the phone looks washed out. Almost looks like a greenish tint. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/57b846c738e7b/20160820_105400.png?
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Is it me or what?? in comparison to my edge 7 and Note 5 this screen is washed out.
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I agree.
Just got mine today and thought thr screen looked a little faded for lack of a better word.
Checked it against my S6 and note 4 on the same settings with the same images and the 7 is definitely the least pleasing of the 3.
I am very surprised at this
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I agree.
Just got mine today and thought thr screen looked a little faded for lack of a better word.
Checked it against my S6 and note 4 on the same settings with the same images and the 7 is definitely the least pleasing of the 3.
I am very surprised at this
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I exchanged mine today and now the screen looks just great.
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I haven't tested side by side with my Note 4 but as already mentioned, I have found that adaptive seems closer to what cinema was on Note 4. If I select cinema and raise brightness past halfway it becomes less warm and more saturated however. I feel like the lower settings make it look more washed out.
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Ok so I just tested some side by side comparisons. Definitely some major differences. Firstly, the biggest difference is that they've changed the sharpness settings on the Note 7. I always noticed that 'extra' sharpness was applied on the Note 4 and sometimes actually distracted from the image as was too much. The Note 7 is MUCH softer. On the photo's I looked at it was almost like I lost 30% of the detail.
The other major difference seems to be contrast. No matter what mode I chose I couldn't replicate the same contrast as the Note 4. Always seemed a little more washed out on the Note 7. I ran all modes at full brightness. Note 7 definitely didn't seem any brighter at all.
Borijess - So you believe your phone is now better since replacement? I'm wondering if yours was actually worse or if this difference is normal.
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I haven't tested side by side with my Note 4 but as already mentioned, I have found that adaptive seems closer to what cinema was on Note 4. If I select cinema and raise brightness past halfway it becomes less warm and more saturated however. I feel like the lower settings make it look more washed out.
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Ok so I just tested some side by side comparisons. Definitely some major differences. Firstly, the biggest difference is that they've changed the sharpness settings on the Note 7. I always noticed that 'extra' sharpness was applied on the Note 4 and sometimes actually distracted from the image as was too much. The Note 7 is MUCH softer. On the photo's I looked at it was almost like I lost 30% of the detail.
The other major difference seems to be contrast. No matter what mode I chose I couldn't replicate the same contrast as the Note 4. Always seemed a little more washed out on the Note 7. I ran all modes at full brightness. Note 7 definitely didn't seem any brighter at all.
Borijess - So you believe your phone is now better since replacement? I'm wondering if yours was actually worse or if this difference is normal.
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Yes it was worse. I was very disappointed with the first note 7. Now the screen is looking sharp and even. Now washed out colors. Using the basic setting in display settings.
Mine is the same . Would love to port the screen colour adjuster over from the S7 edge so cinema makes the colours pop a bit more .
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I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
Thanks
Point me to an image and I will do it.
Sweet thanks. I didn't have an image in mind really. Just maybe take a pic of this forums main page on both, a Gmail home screen icon with text...you know something with a smaller image like an icon and some text, or maybe a browser screen window with similar text at the same default zoom of each.
Is that making sense?
I'm not really concerned with color accuracy, more so with text and icon sharpness.
lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.
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lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.
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I know, I said I would get when down the road when they are the price you mentioned. If I import one now, it would cost close to 800 I believe...
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I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
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Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
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Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus
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Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus
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Are we looking at the same pictures!? I think the Nexus looks a lot better.
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Thanks.
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Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
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Excellent, thanks for posting those. The difference is about what I thought it would be, sharper than the GS2, still not sure it's as "clean" as the iPhone 4, but I do notice a step up in clarity. Not sure it's night and day, I imagine if the GS2 wasn't a plus the difference would be even more pronounced. Still a nice display, now I just need to find one of these close to retail price eventually. The browser at default zoom is noticeable, probably due to the larger screen size combined with a higher resolution.
Still a big fan of the GS2, I really can't pick a favorite between the two, each have strengths, ICS being a huge one for the Nexus. Samsung really has 2 amazing phones out right now. Now to find a Nexus that doesn't come close to being what I pay on my mortgage. :-/
I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!
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I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!
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I read that Google purposely calibrated the screen to make the colours look less saturated and more accurately realistic. So are you sure that the reason the SGII looks more vibrant is not that the SGII colours are more saturated?
Got the Nexus today and having no experience with the AMOLED screens (iPhones and EVO before) I'm not sure what is considered normal and what is defective. I know there are plenty of threads about this, but very few examples.
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Viewing Angle - At extreme angles the screen with produce an iridescent effect.
Courtesy of TAMIM2007 - Left Galaxy nexus / right Galaxy 1
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Galaxy Nexus OLED's with a black screen showing red and green pixels are indeed slightly lit even though it should be "black" (15 second exposure).
Galaxy Nexus "black" vs LCD "black" (15 second exposure).
THESE ARE DEFECTS Exchange these phones... You shouldn't have to live like this!
Courtesy of asb123 - Tint Fade at 0% brightness.
Courtesy of staticx57 - Black spots on a dark screen. Very common issue, odds are your replacement screen will have these, too.
Courtesy of blackhand1001 - Image Retention issues.
Courtesy of tonnytech - Banding and Transparent Lines
If other people want to add their own pictures for analysis I'll try and add them to the first post so people new to the AMOLED world can feel better about theirs/exchange for a new one.
I'm seeing the same thing with the whites. They almost feel like they have a yellow hue to them.
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normal with a pentile display same thing happened with the nexus s the rgb settings arent exactly correct
Aye completely normal. It's what a high-definition Pentile screen looks like.
Well, that answers that then.
Thanks guys.
Is this really supposed to be normal? I'm not convinced yet.
I came from a SGS2 and I can say the banding/lines/grey dots are much worse. The S2 seemed more glossy and colours seemed richer than the matt styled newspaper type of screen that the nexus has. I am quite annoyed as this was not mentioned in any of then reviews.
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very useful post, thanks OP. i just picked up the gn two days ago, and the screen is bothering me as well. i havent done as rigorous testing as the OP, but i definitely notice similar banding at lower brightnesses. from what it sounds like, it is normal.
i came from a nexus s 4g and gs2, i've never noticed this problem with AMOLEDs in the past. very disappointing so far.
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I came from a SGS2 and I can say the banding/lines/grey dots are much worse. The S2 seemed more glossy and colours seemed richer than the matt styled newspaper type of screen that the nexus has. I am quite annoyed as this was not mentioned in any of then reviews.
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that's because the sgs2 does not use pentile, it uses full rgb, at the cost of a considerably lower resolution.
Updated post to include an up close look at the PenTile display pixels. Appears the same as all the others FWIW.
nice thread, i think you should change the title and have a mod to sticky it, this helps people not starting useless threads about their display showing tint of yellow/blue/grey etc.
I think the sticky is a good idea as well. Not sure what i would need to change in the title though.
Who knows a mod? LOL
I wish I had seen this thread sooner. It almost seems like no one else is complaining about this issue. I'm afraid to turn in my GNex for replacement because I'm afraid the replacement will be much worse than this.
For some reasons, the AMOLED on Samsung phones (GS, GSII, etc.) are not that great with the stock settings Samsung pre-set.
Just wait until supercurio (the guy behind voodoo project) works his voodoo magic on the GN's AMOLED.
You'll be amazed.
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I wish I had seen this thread sooner. It almost seems like no one else is complaining about this issue. I'm afraid to turn in my GNex for replacement because I'm afraid the replacement will be much worse than this.
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For what it's worth I actually took mine back for a replacement since I had what looked almost like a fingerprint under the glass - and my replacement is somewhat better.
The blue hue when seen at an angle is a little less blue and the "linen" effect is a little more subdued as well. It's definitely still there though but I think it's worth it.
Oh why didn't they just make it standard RGB like the Galaxy S II?
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For what it's worth I actually took mine back for a replacement since I had what looked almost like a fingerprint under the glass - and my replacement is somewhat better.
The blue hue when seen at an angle is a little less blue and the "linen" effect is a little more subdued as well. It's definitely still there though but I think it's worth it.
Oh why didn't they just make it standard RGB like the Galaxy S II?
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i've returned my galaxy nexus three time to the shop, and been through 5 units in the shop, problems were bright pixels, scratched screen inside and outside, random movement of the screen (like someone has been touching the screen continuously), in all cases the screen looked ok, just like the photos shown in first post, except for one that had a tint of purple/pink along the top of the screen(can only be seen in grey settings and dark rooms).
about the RGB, i dont think they have the technology to make super HD amoled display with RGB at low cost yet, but thats by guess.
I went to my local Verizon store, and all of the display models looked like this. A sales person let me compare to his phone, and his looked like this also.
Seems like this is just the new standard I guess, or maybe some of us have sensitive eyes.
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I went to my local Verizon store, and all of the display models looked like this. A sales person let me compare to his phone, and his looked like this also.
Seems like this is just the new standard I guess, or maybe some of us have sensitive eyes.
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It's one of those things that once you see it you can't unsee it and it will always bother you. I had the rezound before my nexus and the capacitive buttons all leaked light onto the screens. I had to point out this fact to the sales guy cause he didnt see it. Once he did he checked all of the display models and they all had the same problem.
That being said, all phones now a days seem to have some "problem" with them and sadly you need to pick the problems that seem to bother you the least.
As excited as I was for this phone, the screen alone made me return it. It's awful. It was sad comping it to my Palm Pre Plus of all instantly being amazed at how much better that screen looked compared to the Galaxy Nexus. I was never expecting to see a grainy screen full of banding.
It's also annoying no review pointed this out. I've always been annoyed at how vague most phone reviews are and the fact so many reviews just seem like they really aren't tech savvy because issues like this should be pointed out. The fact that I've read numerous reviews say the screen is absolutely gorgeous really makes me wonder if these reviewers are scared to be critical in fear of losing review units. Reviews should be critical and be picky about specifics so we don't have to discover these things after we purchase the phone.
I'm really not that impressed with the screen overall. Every unit I have seen (9) has had some issue with color consistency across the screen, or banding that never goes away at any brightness (let alone the linen effect). The screen on my fascinate (galaxy s) is downright amazing, with whites as bright as an iPhone 4 and great vibrancy. The galaxy nexus screen (every one I have seen) is washed out and yellow in comparison, almost like it has a disgusting tan film covering the screen). By itself it looks pretty good, but side by side with any other device (IPS or my galaxy s's pentile amoled) it looks like complete crap. I really don't know how Samsung screwed this up so badly and can only hope the color temperature can be changed via software to get rid of the disgusting yellow tint.
I have to say the Sprint Galaxy SII has one of the best screens I have ever seen on a smartphone, especially when used outside. Most phones outside are near impossible to see in the daytime, but the Galaxy SII is actually usable and very sharp. And that is with the auto brightness off, keeping it at like 1/3rd it still easy to see. But I am talking mid day in Winter, not high noon on a July clear sunny day, all phones suck with that light.
Had the EVO 4G before this, and it is night and day a major leap forward in screen technology, even my Brother who loves his iPhone4, says he is very impressed with the vibrant colors, and deep blacks, and how clear the Galaxy SII looks, he admitted it is better than his "retina" display. My other Brother still has the EVO 4G, and when put next to each other on the desk, the phones don't seem like only a year apart in tech, they look like they 5 yrs different almost. The EVO 4G looks extremely dated next to the Epic 4G Touch.
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I wish the resolution was higher, at least qhd 960 x 540. text on webpages at fully zoomed out is unreadable. also, at off angle (30 degrees off center), there's a progressively bluer tinge to whites and other lighter colors where as a comparison, dead center, there is a noticeably warmer color of white. dunno if anyone noticed but at the lowest brightness with screen filter app, there's a hatch pattern to the whites & greys (only noticed because i use the phone at night with the lights off).
besides that, the display is awesome.
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I wish the resolution was higher, at least qhd 960 x 540. text on webpages at fully zoomed out is unreadable. also, at off angle (30 degrees off center), there's a progressively bluer tinge to whites and other lighter colors where as a comparison, dead center, there is a noticeably warmer color of white. dunno if anyone noticed but at the lowest brightness with screen filter app, there's a hatch pattern to the whites & greys (only noticed because i use the phone at night with the lights off).
besides that, the display is awesome.
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I think you have a defective display dude, mine is perfect and trust me I'm picky as ****. Returned my first one cause it had some vertical gradient gray lines on darker backgrounds, exactly like you described, you could see them the best on low backlight. Also had some blue tinting going on whites as well. The replacement I got is beautiful.
(I also come from the vibrant)
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The screen resolution can be forgiven for all the other positives.
Pretty much everyone I know has commented on the screen and admitted that it's better than their own. Two iphone users that I know drool over it and could give a crap about retina display compared to super amoled + I even pointed out how it's more pixelated than retina display, and they would take the trade off.
Compared it to a coworkers droid razr, and while the razr's screen has a better resolution, it's behind in all other aspects. The sgsii screen just looks so much more vibrant.
super amoled is sexy indeed.
i love this screen, the thick glass gives it depth too. beautiful
Im coming from an EVO 4G, and I must admit, this screen is absolutely BEAUTIFUL. Especially the blacks.
sick of people and this resolution crap, I had the qHD screen on the Evo3D and i dont miss it one bit compared to this thing!! and trust me im picky as hell also
The one big downside.... Whites
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I think you have a defective display dude, mine is perfect and trust me I'm picky as ****. Returned my first one cause it had some vertical gradient gray lines on darker backgrounds, exactly like you described, you could see them the best on low backlight. Also had some blue tinting going on whites as well. The replacement I got is beautiful.
(I also come from the vibrant)
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thanks for the suggestion, I will go check it out at the sprint store to see if other units have the same issue. just to clarify, your current phone doesn't get a blue tint to the whites as your tilt the phone?
My unit also has a very noticeable blue-to-yellowish hue to it (noticeable on whites especially) but I didn't think anything of it until now.
Hold it at one angle, pure white.
Hold it -+5 degrees, blue tint.
Hold it -+5 degrees the other direction, slightly yellow.
It doesn't really bother me that much seeing as the theme-ing I've done relies heavily on the use of blacks (beautiful, almost-zero power-consuming blacks).
I was tired of hearing all the threads regarding how poor the quality of pictures are when taken with a Galaxy Nexus. I was also tired of the constant arguments about how the lighting wasn’t set correctly, or how I should be using a tripod, or how etc, etc, etc… Face it, if I was going to go through any of those motions to take a picture, I wouldn’t be reaching for my cell phone
So in the spirit of this, I took pictures of three simple items I had laying around my desk with both an iPhone 4s and a (CDMA) Galaxy Nexus. Both phones were set to complete auto and taken within seconds of each other to ensure identical lighting conditions. Once the pictures were taken, they were immediately downloaded. No further editing on either camera beforehand was performed.
The results:
Test #1 – “Moosejaw”
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Hard to spot any differences. Sure, when zoomed in you can see the differences based on pixel density, but at 30,000 feet… it’s all the same to me.
Test #2 – “Ehpple”
Now we’re starting to see some slight differences. However, it wasn’t what I expected. To me (and I’m no expert), the top picture has a brighter feel to it, but also seems a bit washed out. The bottom picture, while a little darker, seems to be slightly sharper and more in focus.
Test #3 – “Hometown Pride”
This is an interesting comparison. My initial reaction was: “Woah, check out the first picture… the color is WAAAY off. The second picture is much more accurate!” However, if I hold the actual pop can up to the computer monitor and compare which picture is more accurate, the top picture’s color is spot-on while the bottom picture has a deeper “red” to it compared to the can in real life. BTW, I have passed all my tests for color blindness… really!
To me, the bottom picture looks more appealing… but the top picture is more accurate. Crazy!
In conclusion, I don’t see enough of a difference to warrant all the hate towards the Galaxy Nexus and it’s camera. One camera appears to make more "appealing" pictures while the other seems to better capture the "raw" aspect of the image.
If I want to capture a “moment”, the Nexus camera will work just fine for me. If I need to capture an “image”, I’ll leave both phones on the table and grab the Rebel instead. If I need to be acknowledged by anyone waiting for the 5:30PM ferry from the city back to Larkspur, I'll grab the...
P.S. I did not identify which pictures were from the iPhone and which were from the GN on purpose. This was done to avoid a placebo effect for either phone. However, if you really want to know, check the file names and reverse engineer it from there.
Great comparison. But which picture is from which phone? lol
Edit: Ok I read your last comment. Im having a hard time figureing that out with Jake and Andy.
top = GN
bottom = iPhone
Haha yeah, Jake has to be code for the iPhone though (Jake the Snake).
And Andy? obviously for Android...
=P
Did you get those Nexus pics on the first snap? How many did it take with each to get them?
The camera on the Galaxy Nexus is perfectly capable of taking great pictures and in my opinion it always does but I think what makes people write the camera off is the colour reproduction. The iPhone 4S and Galaxy SII seem to take pictures with colours that just 'pop' whereas the colours on the Nexus are duller and washed out. The vibrant pictures from an iPhone 4S or a Galaxy SII may look better visually but as mentioned by the OP, the colours are not accurate whereas pictures from the Nexus aren't very vibrant but they are accurate in terms of colour.
So people just want a camera that produces pictures that makes objects look better than they're supposed to! But you can easily use the photo editing features on the Galaxy Nexus to make the pictures similar to an iPhone 4S or Galaxy SII or maybe Google could release an update that makes photos seem more vibrant and saturated.
Faygo "rock and rye" ftw. Now I gotta go to the store because you got me craving some.
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Top one looks better on the first two and the bottom looks better on the third. I'd say it's a wash.
For those who want to get the most out of their camera it would be a good idea to make pictures made in artificial lighting (like flash) with the white balance set manually. Experiment and find which setting gives you the most realistic result.
The "mood differences" in the pictures posted by the OP are mostly because the cameras chose different white balancing modes.
Auto-white balance (AWB) is wrong often, especially in artificial lightning, even in DSLRs.
Top picture was actually the iPhone in the first two pictures, and then i switched them around for the last picture.
I like the theory on the naming convention, much more exciting than the fact that i'm Andy, and my coworker (with the iPhone) is named Jake.
I totally agree with the white balancing issue, but i tried to make this a 'lowest common denominator' style of test, i.e. everything set to auto. I guess it's fair to say that the iPhone did a better job of light balancing... this one time, under these specific conditions.
Im glad someone else got the Faygo reference. However, now that i'm not in the office, it's time for a niceSanders chocolate stout from the Detroit Brewing Company for me.
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Did you get those Nexus pics on the first snap? How many did it take with each to get them?
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First snap for all pictures with both phones.
The iPhone 4S camera looks amazing even in dim light!
Thanks for the comparison
Nice post, OP. I think you should have taken pics in different settings though because I think the SGN does considerably better at taking close-up shots than scenery/landscape shots or lower light indoor shots (with and without flash) You should do the same thing in those conditions to see the differences. I have the SGN and plan on getting the wife a 4S sometime soon (her OG Droid is barely working for her nowadays). So I planned on doing these types of comparisons when she got her phone too .
I'm sorry to say but I'm not seeing the major difference between these shots. Why are people saying this camera is so much crap when evidence like this shows otherwise? Maybe these indoor shots play to the GN's strength, but from the outdoor shots I've seen they're all marginally close.
Sure the iphone4/S & SGS2 may be better in every regard, but surely not enough for all the crying we're seeing on here?
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...Why are people saying this camera is so much crap when evidence like this shows otherwise?
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Exactly my point.
Imagine comparing the two phones as automobiles (sorry, I live and work in Detroit... it's a habit).
The iPhone is the Ford Focus and Galaxy Nexus is the Chevy Cruz. One might be slightly faster in a straight line while the other would get better fuel economy, but the differences are so subtle that 99% of the users won't notice them. They are both cars (cameras) for the masses.
Lately, it seems like one camera is being called the Ferrari F430 and comparing it to a 1983 4-cylinder 4x4 Ford Ranger (I drove one all through college, trust me; it's a right ****ty vehicle!)
Can you do a side by side testing the flash on both cameras? My GN seems to take pictures with a yellowish tint. Its mostly noticeable on Asian people's skin which turns out looking sickeningly yellow.
I bought my wife the 4S when it came out and I got the Nexus when it came out (from my droidX)...I agree its not that big of a difference..mostly just more natural colors that can be spruced up if thats your thing.
Bottom picyure looks better in all 3 cases. Nice to see the GN can hold its own in the camera stakes. Another 'negative' ticked off my list of reasons not to get one in a couple of weeks
once I get 8 posts it will let me post photobucket photos from my nexus and that should change a lot of minds as well....must make 8 useless posts...2 down ;-)
I suspected that my Note 8 had some backlight bleeding and I just confirmed it using the "Backlight Bleed Test" app from the Play Store.
For those who want to test their own units, simply download and run that app. It will display a black background and also boost the brightness level to 100%. If you do this in a dark room then you may see the white backlight of your tablet shining through some of the edges or corners of your unit. If you do see this, then your tablet has backlight bleed.
When I tested my Note 8, I found some bleeding on two corners and also a faint glow down the left side of my screen (I tried taking a picture of it but couldn't get the lighting right). In my case the backlight bleed is not too severe, but it bothers me to know that it's there in the first place. I'm wondering if all our units have this issue, or if some are better than others...
So...does your Note 8 have any backlight bleed? If so, how bad is it?
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I'll test this when I get my unit....
Just tested mine , the bleeding was negligible , very slightly on the bottom and left side.Hope that helps.
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Just tested mine , the bleeding was negligible , very slightly on the bottom and left side.Hope that helps.
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That sounds just like what I have on mine, good to know. Thanks for your report, if others all have the same experience than at least we know the frequency and extent of the issue. Curious to see if others end up with the same results. XDA, please keep those reports coming
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Just wanted to put my two cents in. I have a HTC amaze and the backlight bleed on that device is horrible. I have not tested mine, but I can tell you that I have not noticed any. So that means there is either very negligible or no backlight bleed on mine. In any case, I don't think it's anything to worry/complain about.
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Mine is okay even at the maximum light level.
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Mine is okay even at the maximum light level.
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I tested another unit at Best Buy and it was slightly worse then mine. It looks like almost all units have some backlight bleeding, although nothing too bad when compared with other devices. Going to keep mine because I only notice it in extreme conditions (i.e. high brightness setting, dark background, dark room), and even then the effect is minimal. Thanks for the reports xda. Feel free to send in more reports if you have different test results with your Note 8.0.
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Going to keep mine because I only notice it in extreme conditions (i.e. high brightness setting, dark background, dark room), and even then the effect is minimal.
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I think that is the right play. This sounds like the kind of thing that will only bother you, if you go looking for it. Unless the bleed is excessive (which its not). I usually have my brightness at 40 or 50% in a bright room, and turn it down much lower than that in a dark room. I can maybe notice some slight bleed on the boot screen, but never noticed it any other time. So I'm going to do myself a favor, and not even go looking for a problem (by running the suggested app).
On my unit the bleed is not noticeable on auto brightness - which in low light it's ok for reading but too dim for watching pictures well. Becomes visible, but still not overly distracting, in low light on a black background when brightness is raised to a comfortable level for picture viewing. It's obvious with the combination of low light, black background, max brightness, as seen in the picture.
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How does this compare with your experience?
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On my unit the bleed is not noticeable on auto brightness - which in low light it's ok for reading but too dim for watching pictures well. Becomes visible, but still not overly distracting, in low light on a black background when brightness is raised to a comfortable level for picture viewing. It's obvious with the combination of low light, black background, max brightness, as seen in the picture.
How does this compare with your experience?
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That's the same pattern as me, but a little more noticeable on yours. On my unit I can't see the bleeding on auto-brightness, and I only notice it in the lower-left corner and a bit at the bottom when it's a darker background/image and the brightness is turned up over 50%. After nearly two weeks of use it's fine for me, although I did try other units that had more noticeable bleed in different patterns that I would not have kept.
Got mine today and have some light bleed on bottom left corner and on the top side center. I wish it wasn't there, but it's not noticeable in normal usage. I have zero dead pixels, so I will just keep this one rather than try the exchange lottery.
I checked about 5 pieces of Note 8.0 today and all had some bleeding - some less than others. So I think this is an issue with all Note 8.0's. Some I tested before (and one today) also suffered from stuck pixel's... Anyway, I was able to find my self one without stuck pixels and not too bad bleeding
No I don't have any
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I have light bleed on the left side. I dont see it in normal use but with dark videos it shows pretty badly. It's not a deal breaker but it's a bit disapointing. Guess I'll have to try to avoid thinking about it.
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Mine has some near the bottom mostly
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Mine has some near the bottom mostly
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That was just a screenshot and it didn't show it well
The picture from the phone over exaggerates it, but it is only noticeable with a dark background, on high brightness in a dark room
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LEDs show through top edge above forward facing camera
A real problem is what my son has with his phone. This is being treated by Verizon as an actual defect.
Essentially we can see green LED's shinning through the top edge of the screen just above the forward facing camera.
please inspect your phone, we are getting this one replace on Thursday when they come out in stores officially.