Will this phone get rooted and or it's Bootloader unlocked? My vote is no considering the lack of success the devs had with the Note 5.
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its tough to say, as you mentioned, even the previous iteration of the note isn't rooted on Verizon (did not confirm that, just trusting you know what you're talking about lol) . However i believe the note 4 on Verizon did it root eventually (on retail that is, the dev version had root since day one for it) . Maybe some time in the note 7 being out the note 5 will get a reliable root method. Best thing to do is the hope for the best and expect the worst.
on a side note, when i had my dev edition note 4 it was upsetting due to the lack of Roms variety. I would look at the note 4 T-mobile forums and see it rooted and booming with choices of Roms. does anyone know, lets say in that case, if i had bought an unlocked T-mobile note 4 and activated it on verizon ( or if thats even possible), would i have been able to root and use those roms from the T-mobile forums?
** i dont mean to make little of the work Devs put in on Verizon roms (the ones i knew about before switching to a nexus 6p)
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its tough to say, as you mentioned, even the previous iteration of the note isn't rooted on Verizon (did not confirm that, just trusting you know what you're talking about lol) . However i believe the note 4 on Verizon did it root eventually (on retail that is, the dev version had root since day one for it) . Maybe some time in the note 7 being out the note 5 will get a reliable root method. Best thing to do is the hope for the best and expect the worst.
on a side note, when i had my dev edition note 4 it was upsetting due to the lack of Roms variety. I would look at the note 4 T-mobile forums and see it rooted and booming with choices of Roms. does anyone know, lets say in that case, if i had bought an unlocked T-mobile note 4 and activated it on verizon ( or if thats even possible), would i have been able to root and use those roms from the T-mobile forums?
** i dont mean to make little of the work Devs put in on Verizon roms (the ones i knew about before switching to a nexus 6p)
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I myself had the dev edition and though there was a lack of Roms I enjoyed the cm rom from hsbadr.. I myself prefer vanilla android over TW but have not found a replacement for the stylus of the spen to use with the nexus 6's
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I myself had the dev edition and though there was a lack of Roms I enjoyed the cm rom from hsbadr.. I myself prefer vanilla android over TW but have not found a replacement for the stylus of the spen to use with the nexus 6's
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I've always heard that Samsung was doing a lot better with TW in the note 5 , but the lack of SD card and removable battery left me salty. so it was the first time i deviated from the note line and decided to give pure stock a try. It very good but a little too boring for me at times. but the thing i will absolutely miss from the 6p is the fingerprint wake and unlock, it was so nice to be able to unlock and turn on the screen with just one gesture. Though on the flip side.. i've always wanted a phone that could survive water. though as i found out with wear watches, touchscreens dont respond well underwater lol. but in the note 7's case thats where the spen comes in handy.
anyways, im looking forward getting the note 7 in my hands and will be hoping theres a root method available in under 4 months lol.
I tested the note 5 for 14 days before I returned it. I threw on nova launcher and got the stock feel I was looking for I had android pay working which because of root never worked before. It was a solid device but I myself can't wait for next Thursday if it does come a day early.....
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I would think that the S7 Edge is a good barometer as to how likely root is for the Note 7. I see that they recently found a semblance of root with the Verizon S7 E, although without an unlocked bootloader. Given how popular the N7 is certain to be, you can bet that there will be very serious efforts devoted to rooting it.
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I would think that the S7 Edge is a good barometer as to how likely root is for the Note 7. I see that they recently found a semblance of root with the Verizon S7 E, although without an unlocked bootloader. Given how popular the N7 is certain to be, you can bet that there will be very serious efforts devoted to rooting it.
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On the s7 edge. Is the user able to run twrp or any other custom recovery and Xposed framework. Im on note 3 rooted but locked bootloader. Hoping to get note 7 and being able to run twrp and xposed framework and other great things.
No unlocked bootloader or TWRP on the Verizon S7E yet, but they are working on it. Xposed apparently can be flashed through Flashfire. I know from experience with a Samsung tablet that Knox presents problems with bootloader unlocks. I am now on the Nexus 6P and new innovative ways are in place now to allow root and Xposed without touching the system, so as to preserve Android Pay. One of the problems with tripping Knox that I see on the VS7E discussions is that it breaks Samsung Pay, so hopefully, work arounds similar to the system-less root on the 6P will be developed.
As time goes on and I get newer phones I lose interest in root capabilities. Honestly there is very little on my Nexus 6 that requires root. Many developers have gone to the trouble to make most of the good apps work without root. I give no cares about custom firmware anymore. It's always an exercise in patience as something is always broken, or you have to maintain the kernel and custom recovery and OS all separately. Make sure not to update your kernel version XXX unless you are on baseband YYY...... it's really exhausting..... I have had cell phones since cell phones existed. My first computer ran 4.7Mhz..... I'm really tired of chasing the next new thing. I've owned every Note except the Note 2 and Note 5 and on those years I had a Galaxy S model. Honestly the stock Samsung experience is good. Also most of the really useful SPen features and other features get broken once you root and rom and custom kernel and recovery and all that.... so, root or not. Whatever.
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Only reason I root is for hotspot. Went through my flashing faze. Lol.
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Root maybe, bootloader doubtful.
Either way if we get a U firmware, like we got with the S7 edge, and adaway, I'll be pretty happy with the device.
Do Verizon pre orders arrive early or on the launch date?
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Do Verizon pre orders arrive early or on the launch date?
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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Yeah brother, when I got my s7 edge with two, I got it the week before launch
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Yeah thats what I was wondering also, "expected ship date" does that mean we get it on that day or it ships from factory on that day. Gonna be a long week either way.
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There is a thread dedicated to the topic but to answer the question yes it usually is a few days early
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There is a thread dedicated to the topic but to answer the question yes it usually is a few days early
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Where is the thread?
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Where is the thread?
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https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3432815&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Preorder status and updates
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https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=3432815&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Preorder status and updates
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I got a 404 error
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I got a 404 error
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/preorder-status-updates-t3432815
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You may get it and will lose Samsung Pay once rooted. Sure you want it? The only reason I want it is for non-provisioned tethering off my UDP but even then it'll be hard to sacrifice Samsung Pay. Guess that's why I keep my OG Droid Turbo around
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Hi, So as many of you have heard/read, it looks like the GS2 will be getting ICS soon (possibly in a couple of weeks). That version will probably by 4.0.3 or .4 My question is where is the nexus update? At this rate the GS2 will have a better version of ICS.
I am day one Nexus purchaser. I have owned the G1, N One, Nexus S, And Now GN.
But out of all the phones I have bought, this phone is by far the worst experience. Frankly its because of all the things google said would be fixed with ICS and the fact that the other phones did not have glaring issues at launch. The browser lags, battery life is just OK, this app switch button lags really badly (yes 1-3 sec is bad Lag in this case) and so on and so on.
It bugs me that 4.0.3 and .4 fix this and the GS2 might have it before, but we haven't gotten it yet. I feel like I am using beta software cause there are so many things that need to be fixed in 4.0.2.
I never recall Apple releasing a software this messed up. And they usually have updates out relatively quick. Also Do not tell me to flash some rom, I do not feel comfortable doing so with a $600 phone nor should I be fixing the problems with this device.
I just feel like google needs to come out and say when they will update their phones. Give a timeline and if it needs to take longer to finish,then there is nothing you can do about it, but do not release software that has some glaring issues with it. Trust me if the nexus release in January as opposed to NOV-DEC. I think almost everyone would have still bought it.
Thats the end of my rant
Thanks!
P.S. I am ready for any and all flaming.
The SGS2's ICS will blow, it will be the same old TW garbage. Most of the leaked alphas/betas have been 4.0.3 fwiw. Each of them had pretty large issues of their own and if the final release is bug free I'll be really, really....really shocked.
I heard it was coming out tomorrow, since I already have 4.0.4 I won't get the update to share though. You know why Apple doesn't have to update so much? When they release, it's already outdated hardware and software (but it's thoroughly tested).
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if you want 4.0.3 download a custom ROM. You buy a 'developer' phone then complain that it has issues... The Galaxy Nexus will be updated in due time.
Being a custom ROM is always nicer than stock especially since our phones only run AOSP. Anything added over what Google only makes our device better.
Didn't we just have this thread? *eyeroll*
If the best thing you can find to troll about is the fact that the S2 is *finally* getting ICS when us Gnex owners have had it since last November, and the S2 *might possibly* have a newer version for a few weeks, after which you probably won't see even bug fix updates for six months or more... I think you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, mate.
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Come on....just sell the GNex buy SGSII if it makes you happy
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Last time I checked, I've been running 4.0.3 for a while now....how about you? Lol
Touchwiz + ICS is a ugly experience. At least on the leak builds I've used on my Epic 4g Touch. Plus what Samsung does and what Google does is too different things.
Your talking about a phone that been out for almost 2 years n comparing it to a phone that only been out since Nov of last year. The GS2 deserves it update since its been on the market longer .
Like I said Touchwiz just don't look right on ICS. Matter of fact any skin don't look right on ICS
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4.0.3 for the Gnex is here
You're welcome.
I think he's damn right. Don't tell me to flash a ROM on my GN made by some "dude" because that ROM is better then the one provided by Google engineers lol
I've bought the GN for the same reason most of us have - Timely Updates . Not to say I didn't think there would be a version updated by Samsung and one updated by Google...:|
Not to say the Nexus S users (most of them) are waiting for their updates too.
P.S. See this thread here about the custom roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532793
Last I checked I am running 4.0.4. WORD UP
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I think he's damn right. Don't tell me to flash a ROM on my GN made by some "dude" because that ROM is better then the one provided by Google engineers lol
I've bought the GN for the same reason most of us have - Timely Updates . Not to say I didn't think there would be a version updated by Samsung and one updated by Google...:|
Not to say the Nexus S users (most of them) are waiting for their updates too.
P.S. See this thread here about the custom roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532793
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Yea because 4.0.3 is made by "some dude". If he is unable or too afraid to flash 4.0.3 then he can wait until Google officially releases it as OTA. 4.0.3 is available for flashing, if he chooses not to flash it then I don't want to hear any complaining.
The sgs2 is a joke BTW.
stupidslow02gt said:
Yea because 4.0.3 is made by "some dude". If he is unable or too afraid to flash 4.0.3 then he can wait until Google officially releases it as OTA. 4.0.3 is available for flashing, if he chooses not to flash it then I don't want to hear any complaining.
The sgs2 is a joke BTW.
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the source for 4.0.3 has been out for ages, you can compile and flash it yourself. pure google and unmodified.
Omfg its the end of humanity. Run run run. Gs2 getting ics 4.9.9 and galaxy still on 4.0.0 lol. BIG DEAL ..LOL like 99% of guys here their gnex not rooted ! I'm on 4.0.4. Big deal lol
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Lmao. Have you seen ics on the SGSII it has tw over it. Nothing will be a major upgrade. It will still look like this but have 4.0.x on the about screen. Big deal. The development over in that section is dead anyway. They pick up one new dev and boot 2.
I went from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4. Back to 4.0.3 we are still winning
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Yea because 4.0.3 is made by "some dude". If he is unable or too afraid to flash 4.0.3 then he can wait until Google officially releases it as OTA. 4.0.3 is available for flashing, if he chooses not to flash it then I don't want to hear any complaining.
The sgs2 is a joke BTW.
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Coming from an SGS2 I can tell you the only thing which is good on this phone is the 720p screen, but it can't playback 720p movies.
The camera of the s2 was much better but I don't take a lot of pictures so I don't care.
And I don't know why but this phone lags a lot, but it doesn't have freezes nor random reboots
And last but not least, battery life was excellent on the SGSII, I could easily make it through a day, the battery life of the GN is much worse!
So please think twice before saying the SGSII is a joke because at some points it is even superior to the Galaxy Nexus! But I love this 720p screen so much that's why I keep it!
Does the numerical value of the OS you're using really mean that much to you? What major features are you desperately missing in going from .2 to .3? If someone repackaged a 4.0.2 update and renamed it 4.0.5, I guarantee you wouldn't know the difference. In fact you would probably brag how much smoother and more battery efficient it is.
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So many Nexus apologists in here.
shoman24v said:
You buy a 'developer' phone then complain that it has issues... The Galaxy Nexus will be updated in due time.
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The Galaxy Nexus isn't a 'developer' phone, that's exactly why you put developer in quotes. Technically it might have been made with developers in mind but you can buy a Galaxy Nexus in a brick and mortar store right alongside every other Android device with no special membership, card or secret handshake required. So the Galaxy Nexus cannot be forgiven any faults because it's a developer phone - I didn't get this thing for free at Google I/O did I?
Anyway, I agree with the OP so much. Even though the main reason I sold my SGS2 was to get ICS, I don't really care if the SGS2 is getting ICS 3 months later. I just want my Nexus to get OTA updates when they are supposed to be out, I don't want to be discriminated because I bought my phone in country X or from carrier Y and be stuck in the past while more special Nexus' are getting updates.
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Come on....just sell the GNex buy SGSII if it makes you happy
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Why? You can't handle someone not sharing your opinion on a device and then sharing those views online?
We aren't slaves to these corporations. We don't sell a device we own at a loss, pick up a new device, find out it's not exactly as advertised so then we can go back tail between our legs. We pay good money and we have the right to be critical.
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Your talking about a phone that been out for almost 2 years n comparing it to a phone that only been out since Nov of last year. The GS2 deserves it update since its been on the market longer .
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The Galaxy S2 was not even announced yet one year ago to this day. It didn't even come out in the US until 6 months ago give or take... 2 years is way off, just saying.
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Last I checked I am running 4.0.4. WORD UP
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And if still owned my HD2 I'd be running 4.0.4 as well...
That's not the point of this thread, I'm sure most people buy a Nexus device specifically because they are not interested in unofficial/custom ROMs.
That's not the point of this thread, I'm sure most people buy a Nexus device specifically because they are not interested in unofficial/custom ROMs.
Yes,yes 100% ++++++++++
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Coming from an SGS2 I can tell you the only thing which is good on this phone is the 720p screen, but it can't playback 720p movies.
The camera of the s2 was much better but I don't take a lot of pictures so I don't care.
And I don't know why but this phone lags a lot, but it doesn't have freezes nor random reboots
And last but not least, battery life was excellent on the SGSII, I could easily make it through a day, the battery life of the GN is much worse!
So please think twice before saying the SGSII is a joke because at some points it is even superior to the Galaxy Nexus! But I love this 720p screen so much that's why I keep it!
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This phone plys 720p movies fine and if it doesn't for you, then check your user manual. You are doing something wrong.
Hello everybody I just had the pleasure of buying my first ever android phone today the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 SGH-i317M and I know this is going to sound really really noobie but what roms are compatible with the SGH-i317M? Looking around in the xda-forums I see the n7100 and the n7105 which is the lte international version of the phone. Now I bought my phone from rogers on contract and I'm pretty sure its not unlocked so that may be why I have a completely different model number. But the phone has lte so does that mean that all the roms in the n7105 development forum will work on my SGH-i317M ? I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do I find out if a rom is compatible with the SGH-i317M version of the galaxy note? If somebody could link me some roms I would be eternally grateful because I hate touchwiz and would love a stock android experience something like paranoidandroid which I think is only for the n7100 My last question is if I were to root the phone in order to install the custom rom would there have to be anything special to do since my model number is a SGH-i317M?
Thanks everybody for helping a beginner out!
To root your SGH-i317M visit this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650
If you want a helpful instruction then follow this: http://androidjinn.com/root-rogers-galaxy-note-2-i317m-without-tripping-flash-counter.html
I'm not sure about ROM though. I own the international version N7100.
Just out of curiosity, is it possible to flash an N7100 Tom on an i317?
Sunreeper said:
Hello everybody I just had the pleasure of buying my first ever android phone today the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 SGH-i317M and I know this is going to sound really really noobie but what roms are compatible with the SGH-i317M? Looking around in the xda-forums I see the n7100 and the n7105 which is the lte international version of the phone. Now I bought my phone from rogers on contract and I'm pretty sure its not unlocked so that may be why I have a completely different model number. But the phone has lte so does that mean that all the roms in the n7105 development forum will work on my SGH-i317M ? I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do I find out if a rom is compatible with the SGH-i317M version of the galaxy note? If somebody could link me some roms I would be eternally grateful because I hate touchwiz and would love a stock android experience something like paranoidandroid which I think is only for the n7100 My last question is if I were to root the phone in order to install the custom rom would there have to be anything special to do since my model number is a SGH-i317M?
Thanks everybody for helping a beginner out!
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I am very curious to know why you would want to root one of the best android phones on the market after only just comming to android and only having owned it such a short while
What do you expect it to do that it does not do now?
These days pretty much everything about the phone can be change with apps from the play store. Risk free.
Dmwitz said:
I am very curious to know why you would want to root one of the best android phones on the market after only just comming to android and only having owned it such a short while
What do you expect it to do that it does not do now?
These days pretty much everything about the phone can be change with apps from the play store. Risk free.
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This is true. I purchased the i317m last month and was tempted to install The_Hybrid by Saurom-Projekt but I was able to do pretty much everything I wanted to with the stock ROM, so I'm still on stock.
One thing though; I did make sure to disable the annoying Rogers and Samsung prebundled apps that I will never use through Android's Manage Apps settings page.
Dmwitz said:
I am very curious to know why you would want to root one of the best android phones on the market after only just comming to android and only having owned it such a short while
What do you expect it to do that it does not do now?
These days pretty much everything about the phone can be change with apps from the play store. Risk free.
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I rooted my droid x just because it allowed me to do more things and different advantages of roms. I wasn't sure what anything did at first but with personal experience i learned. I personally still have my N7100 completely stock. Not even rooted. But if a newcomer wants to pass through the gates of hell and join the party, why not welcome them?
And you can't get aosp with a playstore app
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I rooted my droid x just because it allowed me to do more things and different advantages of roms. I wasn't sure what anything did at first but with personal experience i learned. I personally still have my N7100 completely stock. Not even rooted. But if a newcomer wants to pass through the gates of hell and join the party, why not welcome them?
And you can't get aosp with a playstore app
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Actually, I did root my i317m. I rely on Titanium to back up my apps.
But ya, welcome to hell. It's warm.
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Actually, I did root my i317m. I rely on Titanium to back up my apps.
But ya, welcome to hell. It's warm.
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Do you use any rom ? do you know if we can use ether n7000 or n7005 one ?
Dmwitz said:
I am very curious to know why you would want to root one of the best android phones on the market after only just comming to android and only having owned it such a short while
What do you expect it to do that it does not do now?
These days pretty much everything about the phone can be change with apps from the play store. Risk free.
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Do you use any rom ? do you know if we can use ether n7000 or n7005 one ?
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A post of available ROMs for SGH-i317m is here. Otherwise check for ROMs and ports in GT-N7100 Developer forum.
Mine works on Rogers
Sunreeper said:
Hello everybody I just had the pleasure of buying my first ever android phone today the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 SGH-i317M and I know this is going to sound really really noobie but what roms are compatible with the SGH-i317M? Looking around in the xda-forums I see the n7100 and the n7105 which is the lte international version of the phone. Now I bought my phone from rogers on contract and I'm pretty sure its not unlocked so that may be why I have a completely different model number. But the phone has lte so does that mean that all the roms in the n7105 development forum will work on my SGH-i317M ? I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do I find out if a rom is compatible with the SGH-i317M version of the galaxy note? If somebody could link me some roms I would be eternally grateful because I hate touchwiz and would love a stock android experience something like paranoidandroid which I think is only for the n7100 My last question is if I were to root the phone in order to install the custom rom would there have to be anything special to do since my model number is a SGH-i317M?
Thanks everybody for helping a beginner out!
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I got a Note2 T-Mobile T889. Unlocked and rooted then installed Jedi X20 in CWM. This ROM works with Rogers, Wind, Telus and many more. Though there is no perfect ROM for me out there, this is the best I've seen and I'm very happy with it.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s6-...ollout-leaked-with-updated-schedule-25424189/
Oh good, will have to wait to February now. Samsung is getting much worse with it's updates!
Fake!
Maybe it's fake but it's 25 of January and still nothing from Samsung except the beta testing....
In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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Wow, i can't speak for everyone but I would like the update so my phone will work properly. I have poor reception on my phone, i cant really talk on my phone, get good internet connection, and have issues sending messages. I was advised by my wireless carrier and samsung, that the Marshmallow update would correct said problems. So maybe if they sold phones that worked properly out of the box, some of us wouldn't be crying for updates
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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I would if nexus 6p would have been released by the time I was buying the phone. Actually it's still not available in Slovenia, only 5x is, 6p is coming end of January/early February, and yes, I am considering switching with someone 1 for 1 for a nexus 6p when they will be available, even if it's 250€ cheaper. And I don't really consider it being "fast updates" for expecting an update 5 months after the release of the software by google.
Funny thing is that I'm arguing about software updates on xda forums.. correct me, but no one is developing hardware on this forum or are they?
Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
it's all BS.... This is my last Samsung phone. They have no respect at all for their costumers. I hope hope the Dutch law suit against them , screws them where they deserve.
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Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
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Well said... People are always complaining about the delayed updates but if an update cames out with bugs they complain also... This makes me laugh... Aren't your phones working?
Before Lollipop was released everyone was complaining and when it cames out i saw a lot of them returning to KK... if you all say the difference is minimal so what's the hurry?
They need to slim down the touchwiz stuff which may speed up the update times
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It's a fake. Don't believe in Ss. I buy an s6e+ for 1000$ in my country and still now there's no update. I think i'm gonna go back to iphone for the ip 6+ @@
people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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I only want Doze to save battery life, am not bothered about the other Android 6 features.
if samsung make there UI skin more like iOS then am happy to.
on my nexus 7 with marshmallow battery on standby is brill but screen time just normal
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I was curious as to when MM would rollout to the AT&T Note 4, and the representative gave me the date May 8th, or a week from today. Good news!
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Yeah!
Can someone tell me if I can upgrade by odin?
I'd take that reps word with a very large grain of salt...
They notoriously lie. It reads like they are a not a native English speaker, so I'm going to assume offshore tech support and I doubt that they'd have exact time frames.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it rolls out then, but I'm not holding my breath.
Well supposedly on the r/galaxynote4 subreddit, someone talked to an ATT rep and they said May 16th.
(Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/4gri24/marshmallow_is_coming_to_att_note4_on/)
Anything between the 8th and 16th would be fantastic.
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Can someone tell me if I can upgrade by odin?
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You'll have to wait until someone can get the files together... Not really sure where/how they do that though...
That somebody better get the files tho #tempted
Yea an Odin flashable MM update for the note 4 would be cool. Shame we still dont have root....
My need for root disappears with Marshmallow... My only concern is being able to sandbox apps from accessing contacts, personal info, etc. This functionality is baked into Marshmallow. Know others want it for other reasons, but for me, at least they are giving me the functionality I need. Used to not be able to back up calls, sms, mms, etc. but that functionality is available too... Used to need to backup apps, but all my apps now backup to the cloud... At least Google is giving us functionality. I read somewhere, they are trying to give people the functionality most root their devices for.
I talked to another rep and she said the MM update already went out on 3/4/16, and that the MM update slides just the Note 4's into an alternate dimension, which is probably why we haven't seen it update yet. LOL
Seriously though I would be interested to see what the MM update actually does with this device... so I guess I'll keep trying to update starting next week... or the next... or the next... or after Obama leaves offfice next year...
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I received the notification for the update but did not yet choose to download it yet.
Still waiting for 6.0.1 Odin files.....
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I received the notification for the update but did not yet choose to download it yet.
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Betting it's just a small security update.
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I talked to another rep and she said the MM update already went out on 3/4/16, and that the MM update slides just the Note 4's into an alternate dimension, which is probably why we haven't seen it update yet. LOL
Seriously though I would be interested to see what the MM update actually does with this device... so I guess I'll keep trying to update starting next week... or the next... or the next... or after Obama leaves offfice next year...
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You sir (or ma'am) blew my mind.
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Checked to soon because I still had a 3 hour wait. Fast forwarded my clock and it says my current software is up to date. Guess you didn't update since the last security update since there's been 2 pretty close to each other.
Fast forwarded the date to tomorrow, checked for an update; still shows system currently up to date. No MM here.
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Fast forwarded the date to tomorrow, checked for an update; still shows system currently up to date. No MM here.
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I know that works if the update is actually available at that time, but I didn't think that worked if the update hasn't been "officially" released yet. Either way, it would be the first time they released an update on a Sunday (Mothers Day no less) wouldn't it? I don't think it's legit. I've had dozens of reps tell me they aren't informed "until a few days before an update is released usually." I think we'll be without Marshmallow until I upgrade to the Note 6. Then I'll be dying to know when Nougat (whatever Android N is called) is coming. And I'll be disappointed somehow LOL.
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I know that works if the update is actually available at that time, but I didn't think that worked if the update hasn't been "officially" released yet. Either way, it would be the first time they released an update on a Sunday (Mothers Day no less) wouldn't it? I don't think it's legit. I've had dozens of reps tell me they aren't informed "until a few days before an update is released usually." I think we'll be without Marshmallow until I upgrade to the Note 6. Then I'll be dying to know when Nougat (whatever Android N is called) is coming. And I'll be disappointed somehow LOL.
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Lol oohhh sammy, why can't you be as Google is with its Google nexus flagships? Whyyyyy. [emoji390] [emoji375]
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Im finding it kinda odd that i have not taken either of the security updates but now that i reenabled the updater it shows no update and that my phone is current.... did at&t pull the security update? Or is it a prelude to mm hitting their server soon?? I have all but given up on root for the at&t variant. So i will gladly move on to the mm update and maybe it will gix some overheating issues with the oculus galaxy vr inovators edition (doubtful) but still worth a try.
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Im finding it kinda odd that i have not taken either of the security updates but now that i reenabled the updater it shows no update and that my phone is current.... did at&t pull the security update? Or is it a prelude to mm hitting their server soon?? I have all but given up on root for the at&t variant. So i will gladly move on to the mm update and maybe it will gix some overheating issues with the oculus galaxy vr inovators edition (doubtful) but still worth a try.
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You use the vr? Is it really worth it? That's if you have it of course
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You use the vr? Is it really worth it? That's if you have it of course
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Yes i have the innovators edition the first unit to publicly come out and yes it is 1000% worth it the 360 stills are so realistic its like you are there. And the ammount of free video content is awesome. I can also switch it into developers mode and use all the google cardboard apps as well like roller coaster simulators. There are a few games available for it as well my favorite types of those are similar to a roller coaster except you are a pilot of a ship and u use the side touch pannel to shoot in the direction you are looking. There is also a built in vr cinima where it feels and looks like you are setting in a full fledged movie theater here you can watch 3d movies, your personal video files. There is also milk vr by samsung that has a decent content library including a little vr cartoon about a but her and a rabbit. There is a app from oculus home that jas a cool ride thru an insane aasylum called catatonic and it scares the crap outa most people i tried it on one went as far as to rip the b ead gear off and throw it luckily i cought it lol.
But to sum it up. It is awesome. You can literally go any where in the world almost like being there while standing in your living room or setting in a a swivel chair.
I just got my Pixel XL and it's already updated to Android 7.1.1 so does this mean I cannot unlock the bootloader anymore? I read somewhere that once you have done the update you can no longer unlock the bootloader and it doesn't matter if I revert back to 7.1 or 7.0 once the updates done it's been patched.. I didn't read that here it was on another android website i was just browsing around and decided I'd come here and ask and see if I can get a definitive answer.
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I just got my Pixel XL and it's already updated to Android 7.1.1 so does this mean I cannot unlock the bootloader anymore? I read somewhere that once you have done the update you can no longer unlock the bootloader and it doesn't matter if I revert back to 7.1 or 7.0 once the updates done it's been patched.. I didn't read that here it was on another android website i was just browsing around and decided I'd come here and ask and see if I can get a definitive answer.
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If you are on 7.1.1 you are SOL for unlocking/rooting.
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If you are on 7.1.1 you are SOL for unlocking/rooting.
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rip
If you want to unlock your boot loader and your on 7.1.1 you might want to take back your VZ sourced Pixel and get one direct from Google. I'm not saying it can't be unlocked, I just don't think there is enough of an audience to make it worth a Developer's time.
My 7.1.1 pixel is unlocked bootloader.
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My 7.1.1 pixel is unlocked bootloader.
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Yes but you unlocked prior to 7.1.1 or bought directly from Google. If your phone comes from VZ with 7.1.1 you can't unlock it as far as I know.
It's cool I will just either wait for a new exploit to be found or something or just forever be stuck with a locked bootloader it's so dumb too ALLL i wanted to do was change the default system emojis but can't even do that w/o root.. it really makes me wonder why they lock all the customization behind root access or the developers @ Android are hella stupid.. should be able to make changes to icons, UI in general and anything else that doesn't directly affect the phone..
I understand Verizon doesn't want people modding their phones and possibly doing something malicious on or to their network or having to deal with someone calling about how their phone doesn't work correctly when they arn't even using the same version of Android as the phone is suppose to have or what ever other reasons they have for not wanting people to be able to flash their phones etc.. but you'd think being able to change default system emojis or something else super basic/simple like why?? why can't they just allow for total customization and it'd fix a lot of these problems of people wanting to root their devices..
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If you want to unlock your boot loader and your on 7.1.1 you might want to take back your VZ sourced Pixel and get one direct from Google. I'm not saying it can't be unlocked, I just don't think there is enough of an audience to make it worth a Developer's time.
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So, I just got off the phone with Google and they are sending me RMA label so I can ship them my Verizon Pixel and they'll send me a Pixel directly from Google.. Unfortunately it'll be refurbished though.. But as long as it comes directly from Google it doesn't matter which Android version... I can still unlock right?
Yes, if you buy from Google the phone can be unlocked no matter what version of Android it comes with.
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Yes, if you buy from Google the phone can be unlocked no matter what version of Android it comes with.
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Thanks.. Although it sucks I have to give up my brand new for a refurbished device.
Got a 7.1.1 directly from verizon. Man this sucks. I get my phones through work and I want to use titanium backup on it for all my work-related program data. Necessary and impossible at the same time.
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Got a 7.1.1 directly from verizon. Man this sucks. I get my phones through work and I want to use titanium backup on it for all my work-related program data. Necessary and impossible at the same time.
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Dang, really? I'm getting mine from Verizon tomorrow but it sounds like they're shipping with 7.1.1.......
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Dang, really? I'm getting mine from Verizon tomorrow but it sounds like they're shipping with 7.1.1.......
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I got mine a week ago and still had 7.1 . There's hope!
So you were able to just boot with no sim, skip the wifi, enable usb debugging, and then follow the steps at http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html? I'm crossing my fingers, I've been stuck with an LG G4 for about two years and it's been killing me not having bootloader access
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I got mine a week ago and still had 7.1 . There's hope!
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I got mine last week at Verizon and it came with 7.1.1
Got mine last week with 7.1.1. Sooo mad. Hopefully I'll be able to get google to be super nice and send me a google pixel I have the xl 128gb though, which they've been out of stock forever, so I wonder how it'll go
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Got mine last week with 7.1.1. Sooo mad. Hopefully I'll be able to get google to be super nice and send me a google pixel I have the xl 128gb though, which they've been out of stock forever, so I wonder how it'll go
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So you are pretty much scamming then.
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So you are pretty much scamming then.
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How so? I'd be sending them a verizon in exchange for a google. Same phone, just unlocked (and I'm sure Google can unlock even a verizon internally)
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Got mine last week with 7.1.1. Sooo mad. Hopefully I'll be able to get google to be super nice and send me a google pixel I have the xl 128gb though, which they've been out of stock forever, so I wonder how it'll go
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Why didn't you buy a Google edition in the first place? Why do you think they will send you a new device? Nice has nothing to do with this.
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So you are pretty much scamming then.
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Well unless he calls and says the truth. That he wants to unlock the bootloader and can't with Verizon. Somehow I think they will get a good laugh out of that one. But I've heard much crazier things.
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Why didn't you buy a Google edition in the first place? Why do you think they will send you a new device? Nice has nothing to do with this.
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I bought it through Verizon to trade in my phone. I was under the impression that I could unlock the bootloader, provided my phone came with 7.1.0. However it took them like two and a half months to ship, so it came with 7.1.1