As I've seen in some early reviews, the charger included in the box has a USB-A female while the charger included has a male USB-C output in both sides, so the question is: How the h*** do I charge my device with the included adapter?
The cable that comes with the phone is USB-A (male) to USB-C (male)
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This adapter (Micro USB female>USB-C male) comes with the phone. It'll allow you to use your existing micro USB cables. It definitely won't support 25W USB-C fast charging speeds, you'll need a proper and supported USB-C cable for that. I'd guess it'll support standard (last year's) fast charging though.
At some point, the idea of USB -C is to have the "C" connector at both ends, and eliminate the "A" on one end. However, they clearly have not moved in that direction yet.
This would make USB -c omnidirectional in every direction. No wall side/device side and no up and down.
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At some point, the idea of USB -C is to have the "C" connector at both ends, and eliminate the "A" on one end. However, they clearly have not moved in that direction yet.
This would make USB -c omnidirectional in every direction. No wall side/device side and no up and down.
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It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
bishmaster5000 said:
It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
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Qi Wireless fast charging is the way to go. Overnight I'll use the Wireless Charging Cradle and in the car I'll use the usb C cable to QC 2.0 Car charger. On the go I'll bring the OEM wall charger and cable. If need be maybe invest in a USB C External Battery Quick Charger.
bishmaster5000 said:
It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
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For wireless charging which I use heavily, nothing. The Note7 will fast charge wirelessly at the same rate as the Note5. I ordered a 1' A>C Orange-E (they're 100% spec compliant) cable to use in my car for Android Auto. When the price drops I'll order a second Samsung OEM adaptive charger and Type C cable which I'll use in the office when I need faster charging than I can get through wireless. I'll use what comes in the box at home and when I travel. The latter is most important to me because that's where 25W charging matters most. A4C.com has the OEM Samsung 10,500 mAh fast charging brick on sale for $29.95 so I ordered one and that'll charge at 2A, last year's fast charging standard. I connect wirelessly 90% of the time for data transfer so Type C doesn't offer a lot of benefit on the data side for me so no need to "cable up." With the adapter that comes with the phone all existing micro USB cables will work fine. The only thing the adapter inhibits is 25W charging speeds. YMMV.
Is the Charge in Box QC Usb 3.0 or 2.0 ?
ilordvader said:
Is the Charge in Box QC Usb 3.0 or 2.0 ?
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It will most probably be the same Adaptive Fast Charger we've seen before.
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I need a charger for the galaxy note; I dont want a cheapo charger. I want teh genuine thing!
I like the one which comes with the galaxy note, wher ethe charge and teh cable are seperated. Where can I buy a similar or same charger? No fake rubbish? I am in the uk.
A little searching always helps
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...ains-charger/5e88f76d28b84aabe735bb289d30810c
drgopoos said:
A little searching always helps
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...ains-charger/5e88f76d28b84aabe735bb289d30810c
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That isnt it. The usb cable and the charger dont detach!
I want thius:
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model number: eta0u70xbe
sharp910sh said:
That isnt it. The usb cable and the charger dont detach!
I want thius:
model number: eta0u70xbe
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Very strange I cannont find it anytwhere!
I don't see why you would want an original. 5V 1 amp USB plug type adapters are more common than water on this planet. They are not a coveted item.
I must have four of them.
BTW, I have the 100% original Euro one that is 100% original garbage. They cleverly put the USB slot on the side?
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I don't see why you would want an original. 5V 1 amp USB plug type adapters are more common than water on this planet. They are not a coveted item.
I must have four of them.
BTW, I have the 100% original Euro one that is 100% original garbage. They cleverly put the USB slot on the side?
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I have many chargers but they are cheap ones, I dont believe they work properly. I shall just buy the one drgopoos showed. I have like 3 USB cables. I ill have to carry both when im out and about!
If i were you , I would get this.
This is hp touchpad 2amp charger. Many people have reported that 2amp charger charges faster.
2amp chargers wont hurt ur phone because the phone only takes the amp it wants.
May be our Gnote has kernel that enables charging with higher current.
he first link is the north american type. U can search for UK port like in the second link
http://www.amazon.com/HP-North-Amer...YJJM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323539084&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-TouchPad...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1323539221&sr=1-1
i have already ordered one.
Is there a place for an original Samsung 1A charger (not one where you have to attach a USB cable). I have the original one from Germany that has a US adapter, but would prefer getting two original Samsung ones (not Palm, etc) to put around the house.
Charging cable for samsung
I have a Samsung TAB and a galaxy s2. the problem with these is that the connectors are not compatible and I could not charge the TAB from a PC. I found something on Amazon called the CSQUID (damn I just checked and the price is flipping $15!! I paid $25 for this!!!!). With it I got a single cable to charge the TAB and the S2 from a PC - even when the PC was asleep. A bonus was that the devices charged from the PC as fast as they did from the wall cube. So with the PC and this cable I was SET...
I dont know details like whether they ship to the UK etc but worth you guys cheching it out...Also dont know what port the Samsung note uses so please check before buying...
good luck...thanks
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Sorry - one other thing I forgot to mention is that in one of the modes (with the lightning symbol), it does not care what you have as the power source. So you can charge the samsung devices from ANY wall, car or PC USB port. My tab for e.g. cannot use the standard Samsung cable to charge from my wifes iPhone wall cube. With this CSQUID cable in the "lightning mode" I can charge from it.
But the point of this whole thing in my mind is that I dont need to carry ANY dang wall adapter around....I have my PC with me at all times and since I can charge even when the PC is asleep, I can charge anywhere...
cheers.
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I don't see why you would want an original. 5V 1 amp USB plug type adapters are more common than water on this planet. They are not a coveted item.
I must have four of them.
BTW, I have the 100% original Euro one that is 100% original garbage. They cleverly put the USB slot on the side?
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Not sure why but if you use a generic 5V 1amp charger, it takes a longer time compared to the original one that came with the Note.
just picked up one from ebay genuine mains charger for £3.25 free del cant go wrong
Fast charger
If you need fast charging
You need to use Galaxy Tab P1000 orginal charger with output of 5V 2A
It is almost 35% faster
I guess there's a specific reason why you want a genuine chager with detachable leads. Why not buy a seperate cable to use with your laptop?
I recently picked up an Anker dual car charger (link). It has two ports labeled Apple, the other Android. Both ports can supply 2.4A, for a total of 4.8A.
When I charge my phone from the Android side I get very close to 1A, but when I use the Apple side that goes down to around 500mA. To note, I used the same cable and only one port was used while testing. I used Battery Monitor Widget to track the charge rates.
Either side is strong enough to charge our phones, but it would be great if they both charges at full charge rates. So now I am looking for a wall charger and ideally I would like a dual port charger that can charge two Android devices at over 1.5A. I know we can't use 1.5A but it will future proof the chargers for a while, or will work with tablets.
SykesAT said:
I recently picked up an Anker dual car charger (link). It has two ports labeled Apple, the other Android. Both ports can supply 2.4A, for a total of 4.8A.
When I charge my phone from the Android side I get very close to 1A, but when I use the Apple side that goes down to around 500mA. To note, I used the same cable and only one port was used while testing. I used Battery Monitor Widget to track the charge rates.
Either side is strong enough to charge our phones, but it would be great if they both charges at full charge rates. So now I am looking for a wall charger and ideally I would like a dual port charger that can charge two Android devices at over 1.5A. I know we can't use 1.5A but it will future proof the chargers for a while, or will work with tablets.
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Maybe look at getting a powered USB hub? I know the 2 I have at home can supply more than the 500mA USB2 spec as they've back powered my raspberry pi with a hdd attached before.
from my limited research, apple and android phones use different methods for signaling AC charging.
Android phones like to have the data pins in the USB cable shorted to each other to signal the phone for AC fast charging.
Not sure what Apple does, but it's not the same. That's why there are two different ports on the charger. Android ports have the data pins shorted together.
On a side note, you can also buy "charging only" cables on amazon that do the data pin shorting inside the cable. this may let you use your android phone with the apple labeled USB ports.
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from my limited research, apple and android phones use different methods for signaling AC charging.
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This is correct. Apple devices want to see some combination of 2V and 2.8V on the data +/- lines to signal wall adapter charging. They do it this way because it allows the charger to tell the device what amperage it's capable of delivering (500mA, 1A or 2A) which is pretty cool.
It's been my impression that even using an charging only cable/adapter an Apple charging port will only give you 500 mA.
For what it's worth I recently emailed Anker about this and they said as much. I don't have an appropriate cable or charger to test it on. But Anker also told me they will be releasing new chargers in December that feature their smart charging port which detects what type of device you've attached (Apple, Samsung or generic Android) and then behaves accordingly. I just ordered one of their external battery packs (Astro3) which has one of these ports for 2.1A plus 2 x 1.5A Android ports. A similar AC charger would be nice if you can wait.
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It's been my impression that even using an charging only cable/adapter an Apple charging port will only give you 500 mA.
For what it's worth I recently emailed Anker about this and they said as much. I don't have an appropriate cable or charger to test it on. But Anker also told me they will be releasing new chargers in December that feature their smart charging port which detects what type of device you've attached (Apple, Samsung or generic Android) and then behaves accordingly. I just ordered one of their external battery packs (Astro3) which has one of these ports for 2.1A plus 2 x 1.5A Android ports. A similar AC charger would be nice if you can wait.
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That is great to know. I can live with what I have until they release that charger. thanks.
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Pretty good deal, imo. Just arriwed, will share my experiences.
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I just tested, and discovered something weird.
When using original HTC charger, and original HTC microUSB cable, the charging current is 1A, but when I use USB extension cable or spare microUSB cable charging current is 0.5A (490mA) using same original HTC charger.
What's wrong with the USB extension cable or spare microUSB cable?
Original charger and original cable
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I've moved this to Q and A - more suitable.
To answer your question - and I don't think your ammeter is particularly accurate - a USB port provides up to 0.5A. The Phone should only draw about 450mA (controlled by the phone) to leave a margin.
The mains adaptor will charge at a higher rate (again controlled by the phone) and in your case appears to be about 1A.
Note that the rate of charge from the mains depends on a number of factors - the temperature of the battery, the actual charge of the battery (the rate slows progessively from about 90% upwards and so on.
LenAsh said:
I've moved this to Q and A - more suitable.
To answer your question - and I don't think your ammeter is particularly accurate - a USB port provides up to 0.5A. The Phone should only draw about 450mA (controlled by the phone) to leave a margin.
The mains adaptor will charge at a higher rate (again controlled by the phone) and in your case appears to be about 1A.
Note that the rate of charge from the mains depends on a number of factors - the temperature of the battery, the actual charge of the battery (the rate slows progessively from about 90% upwards and so on.
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Thanks for the answer, but I'm always using original HTC charger witch is 1.5A on the output side, only difference is extension USB cable.
When I connect to USB port on the PC always is 0.5A no matter what cable or extension cable I'm use.
Using extension cable has big difference, i don't know what the clue?
HTC ONE M8
The USB port will ONLY supply 450mA - 500mA (0.5A) - no more. It's limited by the USB 2 spec...
The HTC charger can supply UP TO 1.5A. However, the phone will only draw what it needs - in your case about 1A.
You can put a 5A charger on and it will only draw 1A...
EDIT: Just re-read your OP - the issue you have is likely to be related to the way the HTC USB charging cable is wired.
On some phones, when you connect to a USB port, the phone KNOWS it's a USB port due to the wiring. When you connect to a charger, the charger shorts a couple of pins together (or in Apple's case, a resistor) and the phone then KNOWS it's connected to a wall charger. That's how the phone tells you on screen what kind of charging you're doing...
Sounds like HTC use a proprietary cable...
Probably the phone is detecting voltage.
When I use short cable 25 cm or original microUSB cable voltage is 5.05V, with extended cable is little below 5V (4.95V) and then phone is changing with only 0.5A (490mA).
HTC ONE M8
Or proprietary cable.
HTC ONE M8
decmk said:
Or proprietary cable.
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That's the most likely. Bad HTC....!
The voltage is not the issue - it can be anything from 4.75V to 5.25V without problem.
When I plugged the S8+ into the MacBook 12's PD brick, it shows "cable charging". I thought the S8+ doesn't support PD. Today when I tried to use it with the rMBP USB-C PD brick, it activated Fast Charge. So the S8+ supports PD after all.
My USB-C 5V/3A portable battery and the Pixel XL / 6P bricks can't activate fast charge either.
If you know any other PD chargers that works with the S8/S8+, please share.
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I can confirm that this Aukey USB C Car Charger with Power Delivery works. I got this for the wife's car for her Pixel, but my S8+ also comes up as fast charging when I connect it.
This reddit post implies that in addition to the QC 2.0 fast charging (and since QC3 and 4 are backwards compatible any QC charger will work) it can also negotiate 5V at 3A over USB-PD, however (non-PD) Type-C USB charging can provide 5V @ 3A so it's more likely it's using that rather than USB-PD per se (though for all intents and purposes the end result is the same with regards S8+ fast charging) as long as the charger provides it.
Ive read that qualcomm 2.0 os basically 3 amps. So in theory any charger that provides 3amp output should work as fast charge
Nice find, thanks for the heads up (and a shame I don't seem to be able to find this one in the UK).
Do bear in mind the phone will draw a maximum 15W (either 9V @ 1.67A over QC2 or 5V @ 3A over USB Type C) even if the charger can provide more.
I assure you that the Flux Charger would be the best portable charger for your S8/S8+. One of my friends uses it for charging on the go. Also it provides fast charging.
How does this differ than Anker QC3 , other than type C;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K9MQ8WW?psc=1
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Thanks for the info, I must admit I don't know much about PD
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The Wikipedia article on USB, particularly the power section, is worth reading.
Incarniac said:
The Wikipedia article on USB, particularly the power section, is worth reading.
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So it would seem with my S8+ and the Anker charger I gave the link to, there would be no real advantage switching to this one.........Anker chargers have been my go-to chargers for years, but I always keep an open eye to others
picrthis said:
So it would seem with my S8+ and the Anker charger I gave the link to, there would be no real advantage switching to this one.........Anker chargers have been my go-to chargers for years, but I always keep an open eye to others
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Yeah, for the S8/S8+ it make no difference in terms of charging:
Incarniac said:
Do bear in mind the phone will draw a maximum 15W (either 9V @ 1.67A over QC2 or 5V @ 3A over USB Type C) even if the charger can provide more.
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The phone doesn't actually use USB-PD either, but can fast charge using USB Type C, but it's often USB-PD chargers that gives that. USB-PD is more future proof for other devices, but right now there's no need to change your existing QuickCharge chargers or powerbricks.
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Ive read that qualcomm 2.0 os basically 3 amps. So in theory any charger that provides 3amp output should work as fast charge
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Not exactly. With QC 2.0 the power supply can output 5, 9 or 12 volts, the phone will tell it what to output based on the battery level.. so if it's about completely dead it'll ask for 12 volts and as it gets closer to full back off to 5 volts. You need a power adapter that's compliant for that to work.
I received the Trianium charger over the weekend, it does fast charge off the USB-C port. One odd thing I've notice though is if I put my phone in my car mount while the charger has power, it goes into cable charge mode. Unplug and plug the other end back into the charger and it's in quick charge mode. Now if I put the phone in the mount before the charger gets power it works fine.
I recently got myself the AUKEY 27W Dual USB-C Port Car Charger. This is a USB Type C charger (and does not support USB Power Delivery) and with the built-in/attached USB-C cable it fast-charges my S8+ with the 5V at 3A that USB Type C allows for. The other port is a (non-USB-C and non-QuickCharge) USB charging port that can provide up to 2.4A.
Hello, Everyone, I am new here, I got one question about charging the phone through a laptop. my laptop is ROG GL502VS, it has a usb-c port. When I used Razer phone, I always charge my phone through the laptop (USB-C to USB-C) the charging speed is so fast, i could say the speed equal to use adapter. but, when i change to Google Pixel 3 XL, i use usb type c port to charge my phone. it is really really freaking slow. I am really surprised. i don't know what happens, do you guy have the same problem as me? how to solve this problem?
FYI, Razer Phone have 4000 mAh battery bigger than Pixel 3 XL
Not all USB C is equal.
Pixels use Power Delivery or PD if memory serves.
So if your USB-C is not configured to make use of that bullsh*t proprietary power method then you will not achieve fast charge.
@parakleet, is there any way to configure PD? FYI, I do try maybe type c-c cable such as original pixel XL charger, MacBook type c charger and also razer type c charger.. none of them work
Megazia said:
@parakleet, is there any way to configure PD? FYI, I do try maybe type c-c cable such as original pixel XL charger, MacBook type c charger and also razer type c charger.. none of them work
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No modifcations can be mde to PD that I am aware of.
It should work with all the OEM gear.
When you plug in the OEM charger and cable what does the standby screen say the state of charging is?
Have you made any modifications to the phone?
On my screen said charging rapidly, I put timer for 4 min to test the charging, while my phone at 17%. From my laptop it is 0% gain (still 17%) but f I plugin to my adapter charger it gains 6% (reach 23%). The thing different on screen between in charge from laptop and adapter are:
- from laptop said "charge rapidly"
-from adapter said "charge rapidly+ time reminding till fully charge".
I know USB c-c without PD is charging slow of compare to PD. But this is too slow!!
Megazia said:
On my screen said charging rapidly, I put timer for 4 min to test the charging, while my phone at 17%. From my laptop it is 0% gain (still 17%) but f I plugin to my adapter charger it gains 6% (reach 23%). The thing different on screen between in charge from laptop and adapter are:
- from laptop said "charge rapidly"
-from adapter said "charge rapidly+ time reminding till fully charge".
I know USB c-c without PD is charging slow of compare to PD. But this is too slow!!
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i always thought that "charging rapidly" is shown if the gear used (cable, adapter, etc etc) supports the rapid charge (but may NOT deliver it)
kinda like the wireless charger, you can mod it to say "charging rapidly" on non google wireless stand but it still charges slowly.
Yes you are correct, I don't know if because of source or cable problem. Just like I mention above on the thread, my razer phone also come with PD and I use it with my laptop with no problem. But for Google pixel. It charged too slow even it shown as charging rapidly. Really hate to bring adapter around, coz I always working with my laptop, and I always charge my phone through it.
Megazia said:
Yes you are correct, I don't know if because of source or cable problem. Just like I mention above on the thread, my razer phone also come with PD and I use it with my laptop with no problem. But for Google pixel. It charged too slow even it shown as charging rapidly. Really hate to bring adapter around, coz I always working with my laptop, and I always charge my phone through it.
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Virtyx makes a good point.
Looks more and more like the laptop is not providing the juice.
I do some varies test.. I am sure it is more firmware or software problem than hardware.. I don't know if it is bug or not.. here is the screenshot of my current rate flow between my razer phone and pixel XL 3 from laptop same source and same USB type C-C. I think it is similar problem with wireless charger which pixel only support quick charging from Google dock. Other dock it won't charge fast.
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