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How is the 80 G9

I was thinking about getting a tablet, I want something smaller than 10.1. I was thinking either the Galaxy tab 2.0 7", Sony Tablet S, or an Archos 80 G9. How do you guys like this tablet? Is it good? I want something mainstream because I know im getting a good product, never heard of archos but it looks better than those ****ty chinese tablets.. how is it?

This tablet is very good
but for the screen i prefer the Gtab 2

I'm satisfied by mine. Some reboot, screen note always excellent but really good value for money.
I have got the turbo model in 1.5ghz and 1go of ram.
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Galaxy Tab: Horrible TouchWiz UI
ARCHOS: Plain ICS Google UI
Sony: Same as ARCHOS (on their tablet(s)

The tablet is amazing
The turbo version is blazing fast, it looks okay (especially with a silicone skin). Only bad ting about the tab is the camera and the viewing angles for the screen. (I usually use it upside down because you can see things better...)
You should just go to a store and try it out. Btw, the stand is nice as well

Mavamaarten said:
The tablet is amazing
The turbo version is blazing fast, it looks okay (especially with a silicone skin). Only bad ting about the tab is the camera and the viewing angles for the screen. (I usually use it upside down because you can see things better...)
You should just go to a store and try it out. Btw, the stand is nice as well
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This, the viewing angles suck badly, even the demo video claims there awesome....
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i think the 101 has a better viewing angle

Shano56 said:
i think the 101 has a better viewing angle
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Same, I haven't noticed a difference because my old tablet (in my sig) had a really bad viewing angle.
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So the tablet is great but the screen and viewing angles are kinda doodoo?
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Nope.

TheMuffStuff said:
So the tablet is great but the screen and viewing angles are kinda doodoo?
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So to say...
The viewing angles are not bad but could be better, compared to other (but sometimes more expensive) devices.
In fact you might live with it.
As already stated, the A101G9 viewing angles are awesome and much better than on A80G9.
I prefer the A80G9 though, because it is much more handy and little less weight than the A101G9.
Concerning performance, both devices are fast enough to work with pleasantly.
The 512MB RAM is enough for most cases (we always like more, don't we?).
Also battery live is O.K., at least about 3 days at average usage (average is to be defined, if you ask for).
Always consider these tablets are placed at low/mid price, so don't expect iPad quality, when you look at the housing, buttons and stuff.
I would also advice, to go to a shop and check it out yourself.
Regards,
scholbert

A shop? Where the heck can you find archos in a retail store

TheMuffStuff said:
A shop? Where the heck can you find archos in a retail store
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Carphone Warehouse
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TheMuffStuff said:
A shop? Where the heck can you find archos in a retail store
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staples. maybe office depot

IrishStuff09 said:
Carphone Warehouse
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Wth. Never even heard of such a place.
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Shano56 said:
staples. maybe office depot
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Nearest staples for Me is an hour away lol. ):
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TheMuffStuff said:
Wth. Never even heard of such a place.
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Your in America, probably why
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the viewing angle with an a101 is much better than on a80. if this is important for you, try an a101.
one word about quality (my experience):
yep, the price is ok. you get a lot of features for your money but...
i had (and have) some problems with quality of hardware.
my 101g9 is not my first archos. with 101g8, the usb port was broken 3 times with that model after few weeks and was changed 2 times (same defect). this story ends with a broken usb again (brandnew, 11 days in use). shi* happens i think and then i took the new model 101g9. with my new 101g9 i can't use gps since first day (shipped with hc). the reason is not clear. maybe firmware or hardware defect? i don't know. i'm not alone with that problem. take a look in different fora. you have a 50(?) percent chance to get a full working device.
pros:
price, screen quality (101g9 model), android 4, fast firmware fixes (compared with other manufacturers), fast hardware, excellent support from xda-developer forum
cons:
quality check is moved to users
i'm satisfied in general, but some details make me angry.

DarkhShadow said:
Your in America, probably why
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Best Buy in America I think
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4carlos said:
the viewing angle with an a101 is much better than on a80. if this is important for you, try an a101.
one word about quality (my experience):
yep, the price is ok. you get a lot of features for your money but...
i had (and have) some problems with quality of hardware.
my 101g9 is not my first archos. with 101g8, the usb port was broken 3 times with that model after few weeks and was changed 2 times (same defect). this story ends with a broken usb again (brandnew, 11 days in use). shi* happens i think and then i took the new model 101g9. with my new 101g9 i can't use gps since first day (shipped with hc). the reason is not clear. maybe firmware or hardware defect? i don't know. i'm not alone with that problem. take a look in different fora. you have a 50(?) percent chance to get a full working device.
pros:
price, screen quality (101g9 model), android 4, fast firmware fixes (compared with other manufacturers), fast hardware, excellent support from xda-developer forum
cons:
quality check is moved to users
i'm satisfied in general, but some details make me angry.
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I wanted an 8" tablet, 10 is too big. If I wanted a 10 I would get an Iconia Tab 200 ;P

Galaxy Grand is it a good phone?

hi
iam planning to buy the galaxy grand is it a good phone?
what i am seeing in the internet says it's not a bad phone
however what about the performance in gaming?
i am not a heavy gamer i'm just asking
also the battery is it good?

I will just give a quick pros and cons based on my a few months of usage
Pros:
5" screen, dual SIM, decent battery life, removable battery, micro SD slot, affordable price.
Cons:
Processor is slow for today's standard (about the same performance as Galaxy S2 and S2 plus)
Touchwiz (in my opinion) is badly implemented and hinders the full potential of this device.
Low res screen despite its large size.
About gaming experience, I can't say much cause I don't have a heavy game (such as Asphalt 8 or GTA SA)
If you can sacrifice the dual SIM functionality, then you may want to ditch Touchwiz and flash one of those AOSP-based ROMs to give the device some massive performance boost.

If you want to buy for Galaxy Grand 2.. Then go for it.. Because Grand 2 is much better than Grand..
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Double thanks for the both of you
it's ok i won't play that much on that phone
sorry but what about watching videos and listening to music?
is it good?
also what is the expected price of Grand 2?
i have about 300USD and i live in jordan the galaxy grand here is 300USB-----210 Jordanian Diner

AndroidNoob0 said:
Double thanks for the both of you
it's ok i won't play that much on that phone
sorry but what about watching videos and listening to music?
is it good?
also what is the expected price of Grand 2?
i have about 300USD and i live in jordan the galaxy grand here is 300USB-----210 Jordanian Diner
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Watching videos and listening to music on Galaxy Grand is quite good.. I have watched many HD videos on Grand and Expected price of Grand 2 is about approximately around USD 360 between USD 380. .

thanks maybe i'll wait
but if it was going to cost me alot when it arrives here in Jordan
i will go with the Original Galaxy Grand

ok another Q
what about battery drain?
when you watch a movie will it be consumed very quickly or what?
can you give me your feedback on this?

For me I like it
Battery is good , gaming for me I'm little playing but it's good if I play games..
About your last question
You mean the battery consumed quick during a movie ?
If it is, so for me nope it's good
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yes that
then i will pick the grand in the next 2 days because today is holiday here
thanks everybody

last Question
any Custom roms here
have an arabic support?

The original Grand's price will significantly drop when Grand 2 released... But from what I've seen on papers, the spec doesn't make that much difference. The screen is larger (at 5.2", not suitable for one handed usage, even 5" is already too much) and more expensive (about 50-80 USD more) and it will ship with the same bloated Touchwiz albeit higher android version.
Some things to consider when choosing between Grand, Grand 2, or a different phone altogether...
About Arabic support... I have no idea about that.

AndroidNoob0 said:
last Question
any Custom roms here
have an arabic support?
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CM does have Arabic support AFAIK
Also you can add language support to any ROM by using a xposed module by wanam
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At this point I would not recommend you to buy galaxy grand because it has become old and screen is average in 300USB you can get much better phones like the MOTO G which has a quad core cpu plus a 720p display and it also has 4.4 official update. It's not a wise move to get grand now, either buy grand 2 or any other phone or buy galaxy S3 which is still awesome now. Through bargaining you can get it at around 340-350USB. Reconsider before buying grand

sadly here in jordan prices to high for smart phones
also we don't have moto here and when the grand 2 hits market here it will be atleast 500USD
and the Grand 1 Will Disappear from the market like what happened to Galaxy S2

AndroidNoob0 said:
sadly here in jordan prices to high for smart phones
also we don't have moto here and when the grand 2 hits market here it will be atleast 500USD
and the Grand 1 Will Disappear from the market like what happened to Galaxy S2[/QUOT
in that case u can surely go for grand.....if high end games are not much of a priority for you..........with cm based roms(albeit with single sim only ) would do wonders for your phone like majority of ppl here wud agree.........
but @goku15 was right to some extent..u can go for bargaining a S 3 .my friends have both S2 and s3 they are all on aosp roms.and they are mighty happier........by the way grand is not that bad i must say............
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AndroidNoob0 said:
last Question
any Custom roms here
have an arabic support?
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the 1 thing i realised after taking galaxy grand...no matter what happens,never take a phone with less resolution....
i would sincerely recommend u not to take galaxy grand...trust me..resolution matters alot....atleast to me...its not just about gaming mahn..its about every custom roms u implement.... ppi low phone is smthing u better avoid... it mere luck that we got some of the amazing developers here who have made kitkat available...but seriously... u shouldnt take it...... one of the 2 reasons cm is never out officially for this device is no broadcomm source codes available..and low ppi...all icons are big....everything is so big and not finishing......resolution matters...moreover..no OTG till date...lesser the chances in future too....video playback is good but its common now to play videos in hd on almost every cell phone....!!
i know respected developers have made a lot of things possible on our device... but in my advice... don't...
i had option between this and nexus 4....i took this coz of screen size...and it was one of biggest mistake...... truly speaking man... no hard feelings........
ppi matters in every single thing..quality of ur rom and also games and apps and do on video at some point... i wud suggest wait for a while and search for a better option..moto g wud be better in this race if u confused..u can check it out...
or i can suggest you too...
if sm1 don't like my opinion then no hard feelings..but trust me..using it and i know it at sm point!.

Now i am a little confused
as i told you before the Motorola in my country is expensive
and the only devices is High End
i'm mid-range and games don't matter to me that much
the only choice i can go for a Sony but i don't like sony that much
this the website that i use for price references
http://ebuyjo.com/store/Mobile-phones/Sony-mobile?page=2
i'm up to 250JD
what do you think? can you pick me something in that range from that website?

AndroidNoob0 said:
Now i am a little confused
as i told you before the Motorola in my country is expensive
and the only devices is High End
i'm mid-range and games don't matter to me that much
the only choice i can go for a Sony but i don't like sony that much
this the website that i use for price references
http://ebuyjo.com/store/Mobile-phones/Sony-mobile?page=2
i'm up to 250JD
what do you think? can you pick me something in that range from that website?
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Xperia Ion seems decent
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is it better than the Grand?
does it worth the 50JD increase?

AndroidNoob0 said:
is it better than the Grand?
does it worth the 50JD increase?
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Yes
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Should I upgrade to tab s?

I love my 2 month old tab pro 8.4, love its pixel density and speed
Does the tab s has a better pixel density? Should I switch to the 10.5
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Same pixel density as Pro (359). Differences are S has super AMOLED screen, 32gb storage, 3gb RAM and Exynos chips.
IDK......not enough of an upgrade to make me spend the cash.

I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/

animedreamer240 said:
I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/
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A few people in another thread who have seen the S model have said that the screen did not look noticeably better than the Pro.

Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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sharpehenry said:
Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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Rumor has it that it does use subpixels. It's supposedly a AMOLED, not Super AMOLED.
I've always preferred LCD so will be sticking with my Tab Pro 10.1. Though, I'll check out the Tab S today at Best Buy. I hear they have an instore price of $249 on the Tab Pro 8.4. If true, that's one hell of a price for a phenomenal tablet.

chasney said:
Rumor has it that it does use subpixels.
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Tab S 8.4 is confirmed (at least somewhat, based on the following link - and I've seen it stated as pentile on other websites) to be a pentile display (subpixels); while the Tab S 10.4 is RGB stripe: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8168/samsungs-galaxy-tab-s-105-84-hands-on-with-samsungs-66mm-thin-tablets
Reviews around the web, and opinions on XDA I've read say the AMOLED is not significantly better or worse than the LCD on the Tab Pro models, just "different". Colors are a tad over-saturated, while blacks are a bit more true. If you like/dislike the AMOLED displays on the Samsung phones, your opinion will likely be the same for the Tab S.
Aside from the increased storage and RAM, I don't see this as much of an upgrade. And certainly not willing to buy another device after 2 months.
A bit questionable for Samsung to be releasing such similar devices so close together. I suppose choices are always good. But it gets to the point where they are just over-saturating the market (and maybe that is the intent?) and confusing the customer.

I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time

yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
I have the Tab Pro and like it as well but the new device rocks with battery life.
I'd like to see application testing though. Video playback is definitely of value (I travel and watch videos) but I rarely spend hours on the tablet for internet use (that's what my computers are for).
However I do read a lot on my tablet and it would be interesting to see how long it lasts compared to the Tab Pro.

RobilarOCN said:
Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
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Was a bit intrigued by the comments on battery life, and read the review. Hardly seems like an objective test. The reviewer states that they used a movie with lots of dark scenes which greatly favors the AMOLED screen. So this doesn't tell you much of anything . . . unless you only watch dark movies all the time!
Would have been nice to see more data points, and for various movies to be played.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
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yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Where are you seeing double the battery time? Anandtech is showing 50% more for video playback (15 hours versus 10) and less time for internet browsing.

Is the tab pro right for me?

I've been in the market for a new tablet, as my old one (tegra 2 iconia a500) is struggling to hold more than a couple hours' charge. I'm on the fence between the galaxy tabs S and Pro (8.4'')
I'll explain my usage, and what I'm hoping are not-too-high expectations. I am a gamer, first and foremost. (More on that in a bit) I haven't been on twitter for ~2 years or Facebook for almost one. I use hangouts all the time, and spend a lot of my time away from a charger. I had an s5 for awhile which made moving my PSP library from discs to data very fun. That sort of fun got me something like 6 hours of screen on time, playing PSP on 80% brightness. I hope to get AT LEAST that on my tab, without any lag of course (I do NOT use frameskip.) I already know real racing 3, shadowgun, dead trigger 2, and n.o.v.a. 3 run JUST FINE. Heck, my dual core phone can run those just as well as the s5, so I'm not even considering that those games will give either tablet a hard time.
What I'm seeing are tradeoffs back and forth across the board. I'll try to avoid mentioning what everyone knows they have in common.
Tab S- heart stopping screen, better battery life, great speaker placement, BUT... A "select few" get far too hot, and those few have warped back panels. That one makes me cringe. I had one of the "select few" s5's whose camera completely ****** itself. Unfixable. Samsung blames me.
Tab Pro- more stable development, practically same SOC as s5 (800 vs 801, I did some research) so plenty fast compared to the tab S. But worse battery life, I'm told the screen is dull, samsung seems to have dropped this like a hot potato so future support is grim (not that it matters much if you have CM) and bad speaker placement
I got to hold a tab s 8.4 and the screen blew me away. Until I found out about the exynos 5420, I thought I'd just held the replacement to my phone AND tablet. I've never seen a tab pro, but that's the direction I'm leaning in right now. I would have ended this essay at "I'm a gamer, and real racing 3 is child's play" but I think that others like me can benefit from the points I've made and what I ultimately choose.
I apologize for even having to ask you guys this question. I don't make much so it takes a long time to save for something like this. I just want to make sure I make the right choice. Please, feel free to say why/why not for the tab pro 8.4
Thanks in advance, xda.
Final note: I guess the shield is a contender also, but a "warm, faded screen", bad camera, and 4-ish hour screen time is a turnoff.
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I am an Tab S owner and I own the 10.5 one. What I can tell you is that yeah it does get hot right around the camera during gaming. As far as development, the Tab S 8.4 WiFi version is getting official cm12 from what I heard. The unofficial works fine on it too with little problems. As for the warp issue, that was only affect ed on the ones made before launch. The issue has been fixed I guess since there hasn't been any reports of it since last year. Um if you keep the brightness at 50% and you play games, you'd probably get 4-5 screen on time since you said you play games. I'd suggest you look at the battery results in the tab s threads. The screen is amazing but may kill a lot of battery in your case. As for the tab pro, other users will need to report on that since I don't own it. The tab s is gonna definitely gonna have lag out of the box unless you install a custom ROM then it won't. If you have any questions about the tab s ask me. Since I own the bigger model, the 8.4 has a similar experience in lag and all that

Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Sorry too for double posting, but "touchwiz lag" is no problem to me. I fully plan on debloating
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Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Doing and downloading now. Just give me some time since my internet is slow. I'm running cm11 so yeah. As for a stylus, I don't think it works. Glove mode works well though

prichm1992 said:
I am a gamer, first and foremost.
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Get the tab pro. See 6:59 of the video below for processor benchmark comparison.

prichm1992 said:
Hey, I read alot of stuff in the forums from you, and you're pretty well-informed, I'm glad you found this! The peak of what I need from this device that a person might have laying around is metal gear solid peacewalker for psp. If you (or anyone) could rip a copy of it, and run it on ppsspp with 2x PSP resolution and no frameskip, I'll be able to purchase a tab s mostly without worry. Also, as a personal favor, could you see if a conductive metal key or something gets the touchscreen to react in gloves/high sensitivity mode? I used a crochet needle as a DS stylus on my s5, and got attached
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Well, the game is weird. I must have gotten a bad iso or something? I might try another game. This is what it looks like for me

Whoa. Might be a framebuffer thing. Try non buffered rendering in the top graphics option
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If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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prichm1992 said:
If that doesn't work change display resolution to auto, if that doesn't work, I'm sorry for wasting your time..
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I think it was a troll copy. I can play burnout just fine! I even changed the settings so yeah.

Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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prichm1992 said:
Haha, maybe I got you into a whole new way to play on your tablet
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Yeah. I've actually been playing for the past 3 hours! Getting addicted xD Here's a gameplay I recorded. Fps is shown as well. There only seems to be a slight micro lag in loading screens. Other than that its all smooth. There was audio cuts in the video as I was recording. But without recording its all smooth. I also shown the ram usage and switching in between apps. Even though I own the 10.5 inch model, it should still be the same on the 8.4 since the chipsets are the same. You should check out some gaming on the Tab pro BTW. Tab S gameplay https://youtu.be/ZA0zTRWRoIM

I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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prichm1992 said:
I think that sells it for me. And while you were recording? Those a15's can really deliver! When I looked up gaming on the pro, all I ever get is the usual. Dead trigger, rr3, etc.
If you're into rpg's, ppsspp can deliver more than Google play ever could. Jeanne d'arc is a fire emblem-esque game with a great story. FF crisis core is fun too. And persona 3 portable. Ah, I can hardly wait now!
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Yes I was recording internally. You may need to turn on a few speedhacks to make it smooth but it works fine. Going into another app then switching back works well too since it has 3gb of ram. Of course I couldn't test any other game since it would take forever to download. So its up to you to decide! I didn't get heat because I was running cm11. I'm not sure if the tab pro is better than the tab s so yeah

I've really got a lot to think about. I'll deliberate carefully until the day comes to finally decide. I don't get new devices often so I've got to make it count
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Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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prichm1992 said:
Hey! I figured out there is a tab s 8.4 with snapdragon 800, LTE, voice and SMS! Could somebody point me to a model number that gets at least hspa+ speeds on att?
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There's no development for those... And att tab s models have locked bootloaders unless you get an international one. I couldn't find a snapdragon model either. I forgot to mention that the build quality is OK on the tab s but the tab pro has a better build quality.

Well, I thought I should let everyone know, I've decided. A week from today, I'll own a shield tablet. O decided to pull the trigger on one, and I'll come back and tell you all how I like it. Thanks for all your help
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Tab s2 9.7' or Tab s 10.5'

Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.

lorismarcos said:
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
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I recommend the Tab S 10.5 based on your statement.
Here's a video comparing both:

Really helpful video.
Thanks mate.
Is the performance of that exynos 5420 decent for viewing large PDF's?
Cause from my research many people tend to complain about the tab S' performance.
Or is that associated with the touchwiz
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I have been using the Tab S 10.5 for a while now, and it is terribly slow. The reasons for the slowness are very little RAM which cripples the OS (3GB) and general Android application awkwardness and slugginess (designed for phones not for every day use). Both Galaxy tabs have 3GB RAM so you're out of luck.
Using the tablet to do simple, every day tasks, there is a tremendous difference with the laptop. I know you said you only want to watch movies or read books, but still I think a small laptop running Windows or Apple iOS would beat the pants out of any tablet. The only difference is the price, tablets can be much cheaper than laptops. But I regret having bought the tablet because it cannot really do simple things without extreme awkwardness.
The only major plus is I am using it also as a phone (I have the T805) which is something no laptop can do (that I am aware of).
As you said I also have the tablet in a case/ book cover , complete with keyboard and mouse, so it is like a small laptop anyway.
If you have not bought it yet, try to see if there are 10"-11" laptops that could do everything you need and so much better.

Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.

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Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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"multitasking like crazy..." That was funny!

lorismarcos said:
Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
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since you mentioned cyanogenmod.... go with the good old tab s 10.5... tab s 2 got nothing develop yet.... :silly:

You are either an 16:10 or 4:3 person, if you watch more video get the S1 10.5" 16:10 if you browse the internet mostly get the S2 9.7" 4:3 Version, if you don't care, I don't either.
John.

lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Go with Tab s 10.5:
Bigger display
Higher resolution 2560 x 1600
Led flash
Infrared
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Astania said:
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
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I totally agree the tabs 10.5 fast with stock and even faster when rooted. I own the SM-T807P by Sprint variant. I just wish for a couple of custom Roms .

Guys, thanks for all your help.
I went and got my self a nice bronze t805...
I managed to last about 30 mins with bloatwiz.. So now I'm on PAC man Rom...Who cares about Knox and warranties and what not...
I really recommend this Rom. It completely transformed my tab, and now it's much faster.
Cheers lads