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[Survey] Don't like MotoBlur.. add a post in here

hey guys.. i'd like to contact motorola and tell them ...
-> what a great phone they built (DEVY) but I also want to ask them
-> what they hell did they tried to do when building MotoBlur? and why they don't create anything more appropriate for such a great phone?
so it came into my mind.. just to get a number of people.. (just the number - no nick- no realnames) which agree to my opinion.. to tell them, that I'm not alone... :=)
a plan?
best regards,
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I Like the idea behind motoblur, but i think it could have been implemented better. Also, i have a suspicion that Motoblur is the reason that we wont be getting android 2.2 unti Q2 next year, and thats a terrible thing :O. If they could speed up the android updates then i would love it :L

Well, after spending 3 years with iOS and 5+ months using SenseUI Motoblur came as a real shock. How a company can spend so little on software development/support in this day & age is beyond me?
It's like they got halfway through, realised it was rubbish/pointless and stopped. Mixing stock menus/calander app etc with the ropey launcher/lock screen/'my first widget' design is very confusing.
Still, at least the multi touch keyboard is good and errr.. DLNA and wifi hotspotting I guess.

sarge78 said:
Well, after spending 3 years with iOS and 5+ months using SenseUI Motoblur came as a real shock. How a company can spend so little on software development/support in this day & age is beyond me?
It's like they got halfway through, realised it was rubbish/pointless and stopped. Mixing stock menus/calander app etc with the ropey launcher/lock screen/'my first widget' design is very confusing.
Still, at least the multi touch keyboard is good and errr.. DLNA and wifi hotspotting I guess.
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I know what you mean lol. The thing with the wifi hotspot app though is that it makes you doubt if you can use it. I turned it on and it said to make sure my network allows it??? , This part of motoblur caused a bit of a panic haha. The swype keyboard is brilliant but it took me a while to understand how it works haha

Blur is generally crap especially the launcher, however some of the apps - the email app for instance for me is very good, its the best email app I've used.

sarge78 said:
It's like they got halfway through, realised it was rubbish/pointless and stopped. Mixing stock menus/calander app etc with the ropey launcher/lock screen/'my first widget' design is very confusing.
Still, at least the multi touch keyboard is good and errr.. DLNA and wifi hotspotting I guess.
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hahaha DD this really made me laugh.. you hit the point i just "observed" the ios from my girldfriends phone (and some more friends) .. owned an sense ui phone myself (hero) and had just the same thoughts hahahaha really great explanation
Higgsy said:
Blur is generally crap especially the launcher, however some of the apps - the email app for instance for me is very good, its the best email app I've used.
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but i have to confirm.. and also explain i also do like some apps the music app, the gallery, the keyboard (like sarge78 told us above) works perfectly -- the text when a new word is added to the user dictionary stays a little bit toooooooooo long , but typing is perfect...) so some applications are really great.
but the whole theme^^ really strange..
(i also like the general design, black and the red background when something is pressed.. but one thing the sms button on a contact, is big enough but I think it's optimized for chinese people, or at least the smallest fingers in the world out there )

Gosh, Captain America! Is this poll loaded or what!?

I feel divided for Blur.
The launcher is not bad, but there's better elsewhere... lot better.
I don't use all the social stuff (don't have facebook or twitter account, etc) so I can't really say if it's good or worst than a stock android.
But I like some apps loaded with Blur: DLNA, Voicecall, music player, etc
What I really dislike: all the blur services automaticly loaded even I don't want to use all this stuff...
I want the choice to load what I need

Le_Poilu said:
I feel divided for Blur.
The launcher is not bad, but there's better elsewhere... lot better.
I don't use all the social stuff (don't have facebook or twitter account, etc) so I can't really say if it's good or worst than a stock android.
But I like some apps loaded with Blur: DLNA, Voicecall, music player, etc
What I really dislike: all the blur services automaticly loaded even I don't want to use all this stuff...
I want the choice to load what I need
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This! I like my new Defy. but I hate that i starts lots of stuff that I don't want/use. I don't care about the stuff that come preloaded but don't start because the phone got loads of space for my apps

I definitely have mixed feelings about Blur. Some of it I really love, but it bogs so much and in the end I would rather not have it if everything is going to run so slow and our updates are going to take so long. All in all the defy is a great device, but if Moto doesn't step it up this time with updates I am done after this.

Voted dislike. The very first app I downloaded was LauncherProPlus. Bye Bye blur!

Le_Poilu said:
What I really dislike: all the blur services automaticly loaded even I don't want to use all this stuff...
I want the choice to load what I need
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Quoted for great justice.
I just don't use Blur, which would be fine and wouldn't bother me either way, if only it didn't insist on loading all it's processes anyway.

Uhh just checked the number of processes motobloat is running...
52!
My stock desire is running 28... No wonder it lags so badly at times.

+1 for installing a different launcher (LauncherPro for me, thanks!) as the first thing after getting the phone
Dear MotoBloat: Please go to hell.
If I ever meet the guy who approved Motoblur I'll tear out his kneecaps with a rusty... no wait... I'll force him to use a stock Motorola phone for 24 hours! MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Higgsy said:
Blur is generally crap especially the launcher, however some of the apps - the email app for instance for me is very good, its the best email app I've used.
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i think the stock-app is better...
at least the push mail worked fine, which i can't say with the blur version :-/
btw. count me in...
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scripttec said:
i think the stock-app is better...
at least the push mail worked fine, which i can't say with the blur version :-/
btw. count me in...
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personal preference i suppose, the stock android email app doesn't let you move mails between imap folders the blur one does, thats something i need.

Higgsy said:
personal preference i suppose, the stock android email app doesn't let you move mails between imap folders the blur one does, thats something i need.
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Have you tried adding your email(s) to Gmail? I have done that for all my other email address', and it works great. I only have to check one inbox to get all my emails from four different screen names. I use @Gmail, @AOL, @Hotmail, and @MSN.com. If you have to reply, or forward from one of your other address's you can choose to send from Gmail, or the one that it was sent to. You can also tag them, so you know what email is what in your inbox. Very handy.

Sorensiim said:
I'll force him to use a stock Motorola phone for 24 hours! MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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;---DDD
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bobbyphoenix said:
Have you tried adding your email(s) to Gmail? I have done that for all my other email address', and it works great. I only have to check one inbox to get all my emails from four different screen names. I use @Gmail, @AOL, @Hotmail, and @MSN.com. If you have to reply, or forward from one of your other address's you can choose to send from Gmail, or the one that it was sent to. You can also tag them, so you know what email is what in your inbox. Very handy.
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yeah done that in the past. i only really use 1 email account with various aliases (blueyonder.co.uk). Via gmail i could view my mails but wouldn't be able to file them/transfer between my imap folders. i suppose i could just create imap folders in gmail but cant be arsed lol. Cheers for posting the tip.
oh and i dont need push email really, a check once every 30 mins is good for me

Great hardware but after several months with 2.2 on my magic, 2.1 with motoblurp on the defy is a big disappointment give me stock android 2.2 any day.

[APP] iGotChat v3 Instant Messaging App

Hi all as you may noticed the iGotChat Instant messaging app hasnt been updated in a long time...
Here is my take on it, Version 3
Tweaks added and a lot more icons to play with .... * In the settings set the Time interval to performance
Let me know please if you like or would like to change/replace icons to something else
Only tested on my own Galaxy S need to know if everything is ok .. feedback please! ...oh and it doesnt use a lot of battery which is a must :good:
I know whatsapp is a good chat app but drains battery very fast as its constantly searching for new msgs ..so this is just as good (before you say
LINK HERE

Missing Email Widget

Hi
Picked up my new Tab S 84 just under a week ago and am v pleased with it. Can't believe how things have changed / improved in Android tablets since the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (loved that too!)
Anyway, I use the tablet mostly for work so emails, documents, remote working etc. I noticed that the native email widget is missing despite me having several email accounts setup on the device. is this normal? seems odd given that every Android device I've owned thus far has had this widget and I'd really like to use it.
Also, the tab s has IR built in but where's the app? I also use a galaxy S5 which has both of the above and works fine.
I'm wondering what else is missing!?! had also thought about a reset to see if that helps.
Another thing. I've got the LTE version and the battery life tho ok doesnt give that same 'oooo this is lasting forever' feeling like my old WiFi only Tab 10.1 and ipad 3 despite having very similar standby times. I have not ran any scientific tests tbh here.. but have decided to turn off 'mobile data' as I don't use it a great deal atm. hopefully this will improve things
Any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Ste

email widget and battery life?
ssunstone said:
Hi
Picked up my new Tab S 84 just under a week ago and am v pleased with it. Can't believe how things have changed / improved in Android tablets since the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (loved that too!)
Anyway, I use the tablet mostly for work so emails, documents, remote working etc. I noticed that the native email widget is missing despite me having several email accounts setup on the device. is this normal? seems odd given that every Android device I've owned thus far has had this widget and I'd really like to use it.
Also, the tab s has IR built in but where's the app? I also use a galaxy S5 which has both of the above and works fine.
I'm wondering what else is missing!?! had also thought about a reset to see if that helps.
Another thing. I've got the LTE version and the battery life tho ok doesnt give that same 'oooo this is lasting forever' feeling like my old WiFi only Tab 10.1 and ipad 3 despite having very similar standby times. I have not ran any scientific tests tbh here.. but have decided to turn off 'mobile data' as I don't use it a great deal atm. hopefully this will improve things
Any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Ste
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I've also got the Galaxy tab S LTE...
User the WatchOn app for the remote.
I'm having the same problem with battery life and can't understand why there is no email widget! I've got a note 3 and just want the widget on my tab s!

MkcorB said:
I've also got the Galaxy tab S LTE...
User the WatchOn app for the remote.
I'm having the same problem with battery life and can't understand why there is no email widget! I've got a note 3 and just want the widget on my tab s!
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Thanks re WatchOn. Just discovered that this week.
I have also discovered the location of the missing widgets.
If you scroll to the left to access the Magazine UI. You can either add an extra page here and add special widgets including s planner and email widgets us other stuff or delete each magazine section by holding ur finger on them and replacing them with a widget or an app.
It's actually quite neat. Got mine looking good atm. Tho I like this I don't know why Samsung removed the option for us to create a traditional widgets for email and S planner etc..seems a bit of a daft move.
As for the battery life.. Ive simply switched off data whilst am not using it. Had a good 4 hour spell on it last night doing some work with only WiFi on. It dropped about 25% which I didn't think was too bad overall.
I'm still monitoring this though.

ssunstone said:
Thanks re WatchOn. Just discovered that this week.
I have also discovered the location of the missing widgets.
If you scroll to the left to access the Magazine UI. You can either add an extra page here and add special widgets including s planner and email widgets us other stuff or delete each magazine section by holding ur finger on them and replacing them with a widget or an app.
It's actually quite neat. Got mine looking good atm. Tho I like this I don't know why Samsung removed the option for us to create a traditional widgets for email and S planner etc..seems a bit of a daft move.
As for the battery life.. Ive simply switched off data whilst am not using it. Had a good 4 hour spell on it last night doing some work with only WiFi on. It dropped about 25% which I didn't think was too bad overall.
I'm still monitoring this though.
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I know about the Samsung pin widget... The problem is I can't load that into another launcher or email by its self.....I can't believe its so hard to find an email widget!

stock widgets in any launcher...SuperSamsung v2
ssunstone said:
Hi
Picked up my new Tab S 84 just under a week ago and am v pleased with it. Can't believe how things have changed / improved in Android tablets since the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (loved that too!)
Anyway, I use the tablet mostly for work so emails, documents, remote working etc. I noticed that the native email widget is missing despite me having several email accounts setup on the device. is this normal? seems odd given that every Android device I've owned thus far has had this widget and I'd really like to use it.
Also, the tab s has IR built in but where's the app? I also use a galaxy S5 which has both of the above and works fine.
I'm wondering what else is missing!?! had also thought about a reset to see if that helps.
Another thing. I've got the LTE version and the battery life tho ok doesnt give that same 'oooo this is lasting forever' feeling like my old WiFi only Tab 10.1 and ipad 3 despite having very similar standby times. I have not ran any scientific tests tbh here.. but have decided to turn off 'mobile data' as I don't use it a great deal atm. hopefully this will improve things
Any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Ste
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MkcorB said:
I've also got the Galaxy tab S LTE...
User the WatchOn app for the remote.
I'm having the same problem with battery life and can't understand why there is no email widget! I've got a note 3 and just want the widget on my tab s!
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here u go guys...the new V2 of my SuperSamsung rom which works with all tab s versions includes the ability to use stock widgets in any launcher as well as on the lockscreen (see post #2 in the link below for a screenshot)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-supersamsung-v1-t2847070
as far as battery life...long story short u want to use apps with as much black as possible which saves major juice versus white pixels. i'm using dolphin browser with a night add-on (renders pages black) for my internet needs since most of the drain comes from the white backgrounds while wondering around on the web ...there have been test done elsewhere online that shows this thing has the worse battery life when it comes to surfing (like 6/7) hours while it has hands down the BEST battery life when it comes to watching movies (around 14/15 hours unbelievably!)

ssunstone said:
Thanks re WatchOn. Just discovered that this week.
I have also discovered the location of the missing widgets.
If you scroll to the left to access the Magazine UI. You can either add an extra page here and add special widgets including s planner and email widgets us other stuff or delete each magazine section by holding ur finger on them and replacing them with a widget or an app.
It's actually quite neat. Got mine looking good atm. Tho I like this I don't know why Samsung removed the option for us to create a traditional widgets for email and S planner etc..seems a bit of a daft move.
As for the battery life.. Ive simply switched off data whilst am not using it. Had a good 4 hour spell on it last night doing some work with only WiFi on. It dropped about 25% which I didn't think was too bad overall.
I'm still monitoring this though.
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Hello,
Where is the "magazine UI" i don't understand.
From a Galaxy Tab S, i've the same issue. "Email" widget is not more available "normally".
Thanks in advance for your help.

A Question Before I Buy Amazon Fire Phone

i have a question, i am planning to buy this phone but i am very much relying on google stuff these days , i made a back up of almost everything on google , this phone does not have google store but i heard i can install google store in it and it works like a charm .. i don't know if i would be able to get my android games saved progress or will i have to start the games from amazon store all over again . does it have apk system ? what about my contacts on google , will they sync with the system contacts ?
thank you :laugh:
any tips would be appreciated

hi there,
most stuff from "original google" will probably work.
save games should also if you backup your data and restore the folder on the fire back (after APK installation/google store install). Saved states from google play also work.
Some differences appear in fire system ui but this is not a strange thing. Replace the fire starter with nova launcher e.g. and all is good
Contact/calendar from google acc will also work as usual.
nice day

fniestroj said:
hi there,
most stuff from "original google" will probably work.
save games should also if you backup your data and restore the folder on the fire back (after APK installation/google store install). Saved states from google play also work.
Some differences appear in fire system ui but this is not a strange thing. Replace the fire starter with nova launcher e.g. and all is good
Contact/calendar from google acc will also work as usual.
nice day
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Thank you :laugh::good:

my general recommendation is Don't buy this phone. my reasons are:
-You are stuck on Andriod KitKat while world prepares for Android N(7.0)
-No current/ further software support.
-Yes you will get google services and everything but they are not reliable. My phone doesn't gives me essential notifications on Whatsapp and messenger until i manually open them and check it.
-Camera doesn't matches the Quality you will find in newer phones.
-Battery life is not Great, 2400 mAh doesn't guarantee a full day.
-its bulky, you dont want a brick in your pocket but upside, this phone is solid af.
-Anyone who sees this phone is going to ask "are all those Front cameras?" and your whole life will be consumed in explaining its 3d features.
-if you think Installing CM11 will smooth the software part(atleast) then you are wrong, Everything works great but camera doesn't, photos taken with Flash are overexposed(there is a work around though) and most of the apps can not use camera, even i was not even able to scan QR code for Whatsapp web because it will just crash and snapchat never worked aswell.
-if you are thinking i will get SnapDragon 800 in few bucks , this is what i thought too but the headaches it bring is not worth SD800.
-if you already have a phone and you want a secondary phone, it still isn't worth it. Probably get Nexus 5 which offers much better solutions.
This is my experience and honest Advice.

Tayyab.Hasan said:
my general recommendation is Don't buy this phone. my reasons are:
-You are stuck on Andriod KitKat while world prepares for Android N(7.0)true
-No current/ further software support.99,99% true
-Yes you will get google services and everything but they are not reliable. My phone doesn't gives me essential notifications on Whatsapp and messenger until i manually open them and check it. it's not my case, I receive gmail, whatsapp, messenger, calendar, facebook, twitter, all sort of notifications. it doesn't need the app stays open in foreground, just don't fully close it swiping it away in recent apps menu.
-Camera doesn't matches the Quality you will find in newer phones. true, it's fine for social
-Battery life is not Great, 2400 mAh doesn't guarantee a full day. true, but depends...
-its bulky, you dont want a brick in your pocket but upside, this phone is solid af. true but sadly there aren't many truly smaller phone today, except iphone SE or z5 comapct, which are pricey
-Anyone who sees this phone is going to ask "are all those Front cameras?" and your whole life will be consumed in explaining its 3d features. who cares?
-if you think Installing CM11 will smooth the software part(atleast) then you are wrong, Everything works great but camera doesn't, photos taken with Flash are overexposed(there is a work around though) and most of the apps can not use camera, even i was not even able to scan QR code for Whatsapp web because it will just crash and snapchat never worked aswell. true, better stay on stock with google now launcher
-if you are thinking i will get SnapDragon 800 in few bucks , this is what i thought too but the headaches it bring is not worth SD800. they are annoying, but if you play many games, adreno 330 and HD display it's a great combo. To find something better in you need something like adreno 418 or 430 on a full hd display
-if you already have a phone and you want a secondary phone, it still isn't worth it. Probably get Nexus 5 which offers much better solutions. depends, i use it as primary phone and I'm fine, i'd be very happy to use it as secondary phone
This is my experience and honest Advice.
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theprov said:
it's not my case, I receive gmail, whatsapp, messenger, calendar, facebook, twitter, all sort of notifications. it doesn't need the app stays open in foreground, just don't fully close it swiping it away in recent apps menu.
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then it will eat battery life. but none the less it is not reliable.
-I think investing in SE or Z5 compact is better than keeping an old phone.
-I think Nexus 5x is great performer for its price. SD808 Adreno 418, was for $250.
-I also use it as my primary phone and i too will happily use it as secondary if i dont sell it.( although i dont like the concept of secondary phone, better to invest in 1 then having 2) , if someone have an option who is looking for secondary better get Nexus 5, which got the same specs and Android Marshmallow out of box.

Swift Keyboard freezez

I have used the Swift Keyborad for some time in otger phones.. And for me it is the best.. But on my 5T, it freezez from time to time .. Mostly in Facebook messenger,,
Any fix ?
I have uninstalled keyboard and messenger and installed again.. Not better ...

Works fine for me, I have not noticed any freezing.

joeherlev said:
I have used the Swift Keyborad for some time in otger phones.. And for me it is the best.. But on my 5T, it freezez from time to time .. Mostly in Facebook messenger,,
Any fix ?
I have uninstalled keyboard and messenger and installed again.. Not better ...
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Are you by any chance using x messenger privacy xposed module? I've been having messenger crashes for months and it got really bad, but when I uninstalled x messenger privacy it got a little better. Messenger still crashes but it's maybe once a day.

All is 100 % stock..
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