So, I am pretty much stuck with Sprint, so if I want to upgrade my HTC 10 I am going to have to get a phone through them.
First of all, Sprint dosen't block you from using HTC's root method on their phones, do they?
And also, I read that using HTC's method now will only invalidate part of your warranty, but not all of it? I couldn't find any confirmation on this, most were from forum posts from years ago. I especially would like to know about physical defects or issues such as Uh Oh protection still applying if you are rooted.
And finally, once I root my phone, would I then have root access on the installed stock rom, or would I have to re-flash it with a custom rom that was made for root access?
No, Sprint doesn't block you from using HTC Dev. As far as warranty, I haven't read up on it recently but it's my understanding that unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate the warranty. To answer your last question, you can simply install SuperSU to gain root access without having to install a custom ROM.
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It has been a while since I used it, is SuperSU the only thing that would be able to grant root access, or is it some manager that can allow or deny other apps root access? I mainly want to be able to use backup apps with the root access that will be able to backup everything on my internal storage, right now even adb backup can't backup everything on my non-rooted M8, and I am looking to replace that phone anyway.
Anyone? I want to make sure that I would be able to use Titanium Backup to backup everything and be able to have full access in file managers. Is all I would need to do after using the HTC Dev unlock be to install the SuperSU app and not have to flash a custom rom?
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Anyone? I want to make sure that I would be able to use Titanium Backup to backup everything and be able to have full access in file managers. Is all I would need to do after using the HTC Dev unlock be to install the SuperSU app and not have to flash a custom rom?
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You would need to use HTC Dev unlock, install TWRP, and then install SuperSU. You do not need to install a custom ROM.
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Very helpful, thanks.
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Hello,
I am running stock one x rom. There is only thing that I don't get. If i root it does it mean that stock rom will become rooted or I need to flash custom rom after a root?
marijan_e said:
Hello,
I am running stock one x rom. There is only thing that I don't get. If i root it does it mean that stock rom will become rooted or I need to flash custom rom after a root?
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when you root your stock rom is rooted. Then you can use custom one if you want.
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Hello, as far as im aware you can root the stock rom using the super user but you need to have it unlocked first. I just got my new phone and followed the guide from HTC Dev down in the link below and i was up and running in an hour.
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Install a custom recovery
3. Make backup through recovery
4. Root using superuser but I installed ARHD which is rooted already so therefor I didnt need to.
If you follow the guides on here you really cant go wrong just make sure you get things in the right order and dont attempt without knowing each step as it took me 4 days to persuade myself I had everything right plus just ask on here and someone will keep you on the right track.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X
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I am running stock one x rom. There is only thing that I don't get. If i root it does it mean that stock rom will become rooted or I need to flash custom rom after a root?[/QUOTE]
You really want to think about putting an AOSP based ROM on your phone, they're much faster
What people don't realize is that "rooting" is just putting the su binary in the bin folder. That's it. Su is a standard Linux app that supersedes the permissions level on systems - SuperUser. When someone says that they have a rooted phone all they mean is that they have su in the /bin folder and usually an .apk (SuperSu) to manage the which apps have access to is (otherwise you'd have to su open app.apk in terminal).
That said, when some mentions that they "rooted" their phone typically they mean they unlocked their bootloader or used an exploit to get around the locked bootloader. And even then unlocking the bootloader lets you to write to system partitions (pre-Android boot of course, since the files are still read only by Android).
The easiest method is to unlock via HTCDev, flash CWM with fastboot, then flash either the supersu or superuser zips.
Basically you can have a rooted stock ROM, rooted custom ROM, or even a unrooted custom ROM. To unroot, just deleted the SuperSu.apk from /system/app and su from /bin (some systems make a symlink to /xbin so look there too).
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with rooting.
I have a rooted transformer prime and my bootloader is intact.
Rooting is rom specific. What rooting does is giving you administrative access to system files on your rom whether it's stock or custom and uses the su binary to control access to root files.
Unlocking the bootloader gives you the ability to do things before the system boots. These things are usually running recovery software, flashing roms, or doing backup.
Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are two separate things.
Having said that, i have to make it clear that most rooting methods on forums do unlock the bootloader and install recovery code on the phone in addition to rooting. So if u want to keep ur phone covered under warranty i suggest you look for a root method that doesn't unlock the bootloader or install any recovery.
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The only way to root this phone is by flashing Superuser, hence the need for ClockworkMod Recovery and an unlocked boot loader.
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CoSaWa said:
The only way to root this phone is by flashing Superuser, hence the need for ClockworkMod Recovery and an unlocked boot loader.
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I have never used the one x. What u said might be true. But it's hard to believe that the only way to root an android device is only by unlocking the bootloader. There must be another way.
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Manar Aleryani said:
I have never used the one x. What u said might be true. But it's hard to believe that the only way to root an android device is only by unlocking the bootloader. There must be another way.
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I believe people are working on it but that's the only way at the moment to my knowledge, crappy HTC forcing you to unlock your bootloader just to root, whatever next... Voiding your warranty at the same time? Oh wait....
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Hi,
So there seem to be quite a few tools and methods out there with which you can root your phone, but what if I really only want to root it and nothing else; my only goal is to use apps that require root access.
I've got Android 4.1.1, but I suppose it shouldn't matter that much. Will I be able to update to a newer version with root access though?
Forgot to add:
What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. After that you make a nandroid backup and then install the superuser root script to give root acces in the rom.
Flash back the stock recovery and you are able to receive and install official ota's.
Is this all possible with this tool?
Now I don't want to act dumb or seem inept, but could you or someone else give me a more detailed description, maybe with a link or two?
Yes you can use that tool :thumbup:
Did you see my edit to the first post?
>>What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Can you tell me why I need to flash a custom recovery? Can't I 'just' root my phone as is and then leave it like that- rooted of course?
You can use an app called carbon to make a backup. You need a custom recovery to install the super user script. A stock one is not capable if doing that. And you don't root a phone. Only its software !
With hassoons tool, how do I flash the stock ROM back on it? I can see no option in his thread...
The stock nandroid backup needs to be installed via the custom recovery. Not with hassons tool kit. You can in that case only flash back the stock boot.img from the stock backup.
Hi, I decided I wanted to go through with my plans to root the phone and already run into a problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43066305&posted=1#post43066305
Most recentpost...
EDIT: Selected Power down on the phone because I was getting impatient and paranoid and then disconnected the phone. Everything seems fine so far. I closed the console and the message "Get Token ID.." popped up and then the console reopened, apparently searching for the phone... -_-
Oh well, maybe next time. Right now I want to take a break/try something else.
Can someone tell me why Windows always trys to install new drivers even when they already are installed? Happened when I used the programm- updating drivers blabla...
I'll try again here...
Just a question:
Can I definitely receive official android/sense/hwatever ota updates but still keep the root access?
What i've gathered so far is that I need to use hassoons tool and how to guide,but only the first post.
After that I will have a rooted stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery, right?
Then I should do a nandroid backup WITH CWM (how is this done exactly? hold volume down +power button, then recovery?)
What will be backed up with the nandroid backup? How big will this be roughly and can I/should I put it on PC to free up some space?
Regardless from this backup, I only need the recovery.img, which in my case will be MY personal backed up STOCK recovery.img,is that correct?
How do I flash my stock recovery?
Edit:
Once I have the stock recovery again, will my phone still have root access? Is everything from then on -stock- except for root access?
I can see from the questions that you can flash SuperSU and get root without installing a custom recovery on the One Mini but is this possible to do on the LG G3?
I've searched and I can't come up with anything.
I want to root simply to remove apps so I don't want to install CWM/TWRP as having a custom recovery annoys the HELL out of me. I don't understand why a custom recovery is needed? Can't the one that comes with the phone do everything those can?
IMO, they are just there cause they look prettier. LOL
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile G3. I had it rooted but unrooted to install latest update (that was hell, turned out my drivers were not updated). I used PurpleDrake last time but it installed TWRP and as I said, I don't want TWRP.
Any ideas?
Good question! Bumping this for you as I'm interested too!
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DudeThatsErin said:
I can see from the questions that you can flash SuperSU and get root without installing a custom recovery on the One Mini but is this possible to do on the LG G3?
I've searched and I can't come up with anything.
I want to root simply to remove apps so I don't want to install CWM/TWRP as having a custom recovery annoys the HELL out of me. I don't understand why a custom recovery is needed? Can't the one that comes with the phone do everything those can?
IMO, they are just there cause they look prettier. LOL
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile G3. I had it rooted but unrooted to install latest update (that was hell, turned out my drivers were not updated). I used PurpleDrake last time but it installed TWRP and as I said, I don't want TWRP.
Any ideas?
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Good question! Bumping this for you as I'm interested too!
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I have the T-Mobile G3 as well. I rooted and got Supersu way before installing TWRP! It's possible. TWRP is a custom recovery that allows you to backup your entire phone (including software) in case you make a mistake. It also allows you to "flash" things to your phone. It has a lot of features and is needed to install a custom ROM or update that custom ROM.
You don't need it, but I would suggest it highly. The ability to backup everything is a must when you're doing something to your phone. It essentially prevents you from bricking your phone -- which I did. However, I made a full backup before deleting everything, so all I did was go into TWRP and undo the bricking by restoring a backup.
You can root your phone without a custom recovery. Then you can go into the play store and download SuperSu, then you can download Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware. A custom recovery isn't needed for any of this.
Hi, guys...I just unrooted, factory restored, and used flashtool to fully restore my sprint lgls990 following some connectivity issues. My phone is currently on android 4.4.2.
I am seeking some advice/help on basically end-to-end help. Initially, I used stump to root my phone and then installed xposed and a few other items.
What I want to do now is run the easiest root possible, create a backup, and then install a custom rom. Specifically, I'd like to use CM10 CM11: Royal Blue Cobalt from the Play Store.
I have a strong concern about rom stability, though. I want/need lte data, wifi, phone, playstore, maps, and the like, but don't want to sprint bloatware crap. Is that what a custom ROM does, keep the essentials and dump the carrier crap?
So:
I think using stump will be the easiest root process.
I have read lots about twrp, but haven't found very good instructions for a noob like me, can anyone point me to "the" thread for installing and using twrp?
Where do I find the rom so I can use the theme I have noted above?
Basically, I'm looking for a roadmap for the threads I'll need to accomplish this.
Thanks in advance for helping this noob...
Bump for a little help, please...
Is there a one-stop shop for rooting, backing up, and installing a custom ROM?
Ok - re-used stump root to re-root my phone. Dl'd root checker to confirm and it confirmed rooted. Though root checker says to dl supersu to verify root, I didn't initially. Subsequently, dl'd supersu, granted root checker access, and confirmed root.
Now I wonder if I back up now or if I should have backed up before root? Answer: Seems that I cannot make a nandroid backup without recovery and to have recovery my boot loader needs to be unlocked, er rooted, right?
Edit:
Seems unlocking the boot loader is different than rooting the phone.
I suppose I can just use TWRP to back up the device?
Edit 2:
Okay, using this site - http://lg-g3.wonderhowto.com/how-to/unlock-bootloader-install-custom-recovery-lg-g3-0157830/ - I dl'd flashify, dl'd my ls990 img to the phone via the guide and will install next.
Edit 3:
Successfully installed the lg ls990 .img via Flashify; re-booted into twrp; and successfully created a backup. Then I connected the g3 to my pc and moved the very large backup file to my pc.
Edit 4:
I didn't include EFS in the back up...problem? No problem, just did another backup and chose all options available.
Now on to installing a cm rom...
Edit 5:
Looking for a CM 11 rom for my ls990...found one but the bluetooth doesn't work - http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-11-ls990-t2941164? Dafuq?
Edit 6:
Done for the night...no custom ROM. I thought most of the CM 11s would be sorted out by now, but alas, not so.
I'd really like to get a fully customized theme on this phone and thought going to CM 11 would get me there...
I'm on a stock unlocked 10 in the USA. I'm trying to understand all the root options. I really only want root for a couple reasons which is primarily titanium backup and greenify.
I don't believe I need sunshine for this but believe I need to unlock the bootloader. Correct? My concern is what happens with otas? How will I get them? Will I have to unroot every time I want to apply one? Do I have to apply a new recovery for what I want to do?
I also read that there are potential radio issues when rooting. Will I encounter that?
I'm in the same boat and new to htc. You need to unlock the bootloader to root. You only need s-off if you want to flash firmware from other regions etc.
If you flash twrp/root, you can't get OTA updates. So you would have to flash custom rom which hopefully updates to include the latest OTA (will take some time)
Or... You restore back to stock system and recovery (I think?) then get OTA, then reflash twrp and re-root.
I can't find a clear guide anywhere, there are snippets of information hidden away in several post's. Once I understand, I will flash twrp/root and try Leedroid rom, knowing I can restore via nandroid, hopefully. Also think there are issues if you change system, hosts file, gps.conf etc, it's not clear....
So... waiting for clear guidance on, how to restore back to stock, meaning I can try twrp/root/custom rom.
Missing greenify, adblock, changing kernel params, TBackup to debloat and backup
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Are there any clear instructions on this?
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Also do we lose encryption? If we flash back to stock to take an ota, so we have to wipe every time?
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If you S-Off and S-On, you lose data because you lose/gain encryption keys. (Or.. well, somethin' like that.)
Thanks but I don't think I need s off. I just want to greenify and backup
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km8j said:
I'm on a stock unlocked 10 in the USA. I'm trying to understand all the root options. I really only want root for a couple reasons which is primarily titanium backup and greenify.
I don't believe I need sunshine for this but believe I need to unlock the bootloader. Correct?
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Correct.
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My concern is what happens with otas? How will I get them? Will I have to unroot every time I want to apply one? Do I have to apply a new recovery for what I want to do?
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In order to root, you will need to flash a custom recovery (TWRP) and the latest BETA SuperSU (either the modified version that leaves forced encryption enabled, or the standard version that requires you to specify that prior to flashing). Doing that alone will not break your ability to receive an OTA update. However, for an OTA to be completely installed, stock recovery is required (which replaces TWRP). After rooting, you can return to stock recovery if you desire, and then you should be able to install the OTA with no problem, provided you haven't modified system at all. However, you'll then have to re-install custom recovery and root again, as the new boot.img that's included in the OTA zip will remove root access. Then you can follow the same procedure to be prepared for future OTAs.
The question really becomes, will you be using either of those apps to modify system? I don't personally know how they work and why they need root access - I'm assuming it's to access information under /data. If they're not touching /system, you should be fine.
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I also read that there are potential radio issues when rooting. Will I encounter that?
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The radio issues aren't necessarily related to root - they're related to removing encryption. Using the modified SuperSU or applying the proper flag to the standard SuperSU prevent this from being an issue.