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Galaxy S gaming performance

I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.

I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games

im currently on JVT.firmware
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.

Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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disclaimernotice said:
I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...

Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues

Simplicitiy is very good!

alwo1303 said:
Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?

For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!

titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
_breez_ said:
indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...

upichie said:
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.

lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.

lpalvaro said:
I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.

upichie said:
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.

bigmem kernel may help? its what i use

upichie said:
... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours

_breez_ said:
because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.

upichie said:
Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct

[Q] Lag in Games with NXT 1.3 Rom on Xperia Play

Hello to everyone, i have installed a custom rom for my Xperia Play with Locked Bootloader, the Custom Rom is NXT 1.3 and its performance in games was excellent newly installed, but when i started to install my apps or restore my apps the performance felt. So i thought that was ocurred cause was filling up the internal memory, so I put most of the applications on the SD card and some go to the ROM, but the performance doesn't improve as well, i read and a i have try different things like install Ram Manager Pro to free more RAM in games, to Use Task killer for Tasks in Ejecution and i dont see an considerable change in its performance. So Can i do for play more smooth?
The another thing is the NXT 1.3 have Busybox and support for scripts Init.d but i try to use an option for swap but maybe my stock kernel dont support it and another option for max size aplication's data in Ram Manager Pro ask me for busybox as if i didnt installed it, and i don't know why.
Thank yo
PD: Sorry for my poor English cause my native language is Spanish. XD

you need to overclock your rom.
here is the link for download No-frills CPU Control (i use this one): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiaXQuc2luZW8uYW5kcm9pZC5ub0ZyaWxsc0NQVSJd
After download that overclock it to: Max - 1,709 Ghz | Min - 249 Mhz | Governor - smartassV2 | I/Oscheduler - sio

Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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olokos said:
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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i use doomlord kernel.

A Question
But if i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel i cant to overclock cause i cant change kernel. is there another option for improve the game experience with the NXT 1.3 Rom or another???

I know this might not help but could you tell me how good heavy 3d gaming was when you first installed the ROM. Did you play games like GTA:VC/GTA 3/Modern Combat 3/4 / Batman Dark Knight Rises etc without NO LAG or with minimal lag? Im on dixperia 2 and out of the 3 ROMs ive been on, its provided me with the good performance although it does slightly lag when doing heavy 3d gaming...

Nxt Light 1.3
I was experiencing the same issue. I am using the light version of the custom ROM, and it was blazing fast upon installation. Now that all of my games are installed, it is slightly slower than it was before, not very noticable though. If it helps, before playing a game, I use Es Task Manager to clear up about 200mb of memory so more is available for the games. My bootloader is locked as well. I wish there was a stable ICS on the Xperia Play. The ICS user interface, in my opinion, is much smoother than gingerbread.

Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S

Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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My phone using NXT 1.3 has 204-215Mb free almost the times.

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.

sdojoin said:
Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin
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Thank you man, but i have another question if i have Ram Manager Pro running for "Harder Gamming" it is going a trouble with the NXT rom? cause that to free RAM too but i have lag too. The Task killer i used only for free ram before i play, or maybe can you tell me how can i do for boost my gamming experience on NXT rom in my XP with locked bootloader. Thank you people for your support!

eksasol said:
Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Thank you, can you tell me what apps can i use for improve the gamming experience in XP or maybe boost the XP with NXT rom cause i have almost 20 apps and i have 100 mb free on Internal Memory, the Rom Memory with 35 Mb free, but the RAM fill up fast and i only use the defalult launcher of NXT Rom with Static Theme and a few widgets like Timescape, Photos/Videos, Searchbox and Music. But i feel the rom less smooth than newlsy installed, Thank you for answering!!!

Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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sdojoin said:
Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Another question my friend what app can i used for cache/dalvik cache (For no reboot all time XD) and i can't use swapping on Stock Kernel? cause i cant in my XP with NXT ROM with locked bootloader. Thank you!!!

U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin

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U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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I've tried to install a swapper but when i verify if it is running on memory use the swap space are in 0 like if i didnt install the swapper or if it isn't running, what can i do? The another question is this:
I found a tweaks collection and i want to try that but i dont know if that could generate conflict with the tweaks of the NXT ROM have with it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Somebody said games are better installed in internal memory than SD Card, that is right? by the way what configuration or tweaks or apps you used for games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 or Street Fighter IV? Thank you for answering!!!!

Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.

lash1co said:
Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."

chery2k said:
Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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So nothing can i do? :S. And if i put apps in Rom Memory (Rom's Space) will generate lag or no? Cause i thought in the posibility to move the apps in SD Car and Rom Space for more space on internal memory....

What are your performance configurations?

I have installed PA, stable. Current Clockspeed set to 806 and 1200 MHz. The CPU governor is Performance. IO scheduler is set to Deadline. zzRam is set to default, Allow purging of assets is checked, so is KSM. 16-bit transparency is set too.
After using the phone pretty hard for a month and half, I find the performance not satisfactory. I need to perform frequent restarts to beat the sluggishness. Tried a system reset that made it fast, but only for a few days, if not weeks. Could the sluggishness be because of a slow SD card? I used the one that was free with the phone. I got it off Flipkart, in India.
How do I speed it up? I dont have any UI/skins/Nova or that stuff. No background processes other than WA, FB, Maps and JottaCloud (to sync msgs, which are not frequent.)
Thanks.

Use greenify and use the swap script
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try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210880
Be careful abt setting the size coz Cm10 can only use 50mb(just read the thread and you'll get it)

sonrics1993 said:
Use greenify and use the swap script
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Greenify looks pretty good. Might take me a while to get my head around it though. If that doesnt help, Ill try to use swap. Is the swap created on the SD or the internal memory?
Thanks.

thetuxracer said:
Greenify looks pretty good. Might take me a while to get my head around it though. If that doesnt help, Ill try to use swap. Is the swap created on the SD or the internal memory?
Thanks.
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in the cache and data memory to be exact
No PROBLEMS GUARANTEED
although if ur not on sense go for 50mb for cache

Optimisation
Most issues sluggish issues on the HOV are caused by background programs. You could try Tantrums Gapps install to remove all the stuff you don't need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918616 note that it works on all CM10 based roms.
With regards to the memory card you are right, a faster card will significantly improve the speed of response the phone has. However it won't stop the need to reboot.
As a memory manager I used SmartassV2. Also you can safely up your clock speed to 1470MHz, however when I ran some games this led to a nice warm phone, which is handy in winter :victory: .
The final step with my phone was to go for a full reinstall using as few Titanium restores as possible.
Hope this helps

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I have installed PA, stable. Current Clockspeed set to 806 and 1200 MHz. The CPU governor is Performance. IO scheduler is set to Deadline. zzRam is set to default, Allow purging of assets is checked, so is KSM. 16-bit transparency is set too.
After using the phone pretty hard for a month and half, I find the performance not satisfactory. I need to perform frequent restarts to beat the sluggishness. Tried a system reset that made it fast, but only for a few days, if not weeks. Could the sluggishness be because of a slow SD card? I used the one that was free with the phone. I got it off Flipkart, in India.
How do I speed it up? I dont have any UI/skins/Nova or that stuff. No background processes other than WA, FB, Maps and JottaCloud (to sync msgs, which are not frequent.)
Thanks.
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I have my CPU set at 1.497Ghz with lionheart governor and deadline scheduler Nd it runs real fast and smooth ! Give it a try also like stated above. You can remove apps you don't use at all some run in the background taking up ram for no reason
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Thanks guys for your replies. Greenify is pretty amazing. Have noticed quite a difference in my phone. Will try the configurations mentioned by you also.
Thank you!

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition uses Too Much Ram

Hello there
I have just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. But it consumes too much ram.
This causes instability and excessive battery usage.
Do I have any chance about this?
Thanks

Android isn't compareable to windows in ram usage. Your tab will run smoother if 1gig is used instead of 600mb, because some data is still in the memory which means faster app starts...
If android needs more ram it cleans the memory itself

Then it's something you installed, because out of the box it's fine.

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But it consumes too much ram.
This causes instability and excessive battery usage.
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How did you make that connection?
There are multiple posts here about RAM usage on this tablet and many more about RAM usage in Android. You don't need to worry about your RAM, OS does a good job managing it.

Hi again
I Use "Clean Master" to montior my RAM usage and it always shows ram usage is around 92%
I didn't install too much stuff. A couple of games which I play rarely and a few drawing apps.
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blckstr said:
Hi again
I Use "Clean Master" to montior my RAM usage and it always shows ram usage is around 92% I didn't install too much stuff. A couple of games which I play rarely and a few drawing apps.
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IMHO a memory monitor could mess up with normal memory management, because if it is set to a too restrictive policy it could try to free memory that OS will reuse at once, and so on.
I would suggest trying to use your tablet without the memory monitor, then compare the behavior.

How does used ram cause battery drain? It does not. What causes battery drain is when your cpu is getting used. When your apps aren't precached your cpu will have to work a bit harder every time you start an app. Also your memory monitoring app will use more cpu cycles than it will save you. What you could look out for are apps that consume lots of cpu power. Sometimes apps are badly coded and consume lots of power. Those kinds of apps will most likely show up in the battery stats in the settings menu. No external apps are needed. They usually cause more harm then good.
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Yes maybe you are right. I managed to improved battery life. But I can't say the same for RAM usage.
Compared to my Sony Xperia Z1, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 responds real slow. Although it has more RAM. (2GB vs 3 GB)
I did a research about speeding up it. But couldn't come up with a sollution.

More ram doesn't really make a device faster. Nowadays it's a lot more about the software and drivers etc.. Samsung sometimes neglects that and focuses on adding software stuff that they can advertise. I wrote a guide on speeding the device up. It assumes you have root, but you can just see how many apps you can disable in the settings. Might be enough.
After applying all the steps and keeping my device clean it's the fastest tablet I ever had in my hands.

blckstr said:
Yes maybe you are right. I managed to improved battery life. But I can't say the same for RAM usage.
Compared to my Sony Xperia Z1, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 responds real slow. Although it has more RAM. (2GB vs 3 GB)
I did a research about speeding up it. But couldn't come up with a sollution.
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More ram usage is a sign of more services running.... which means there is loads of stuff running in your background..
If I dont run a single app my ram has 1.3 Gig ram left... go to application manager and check whats running... if you see stuff you dont need freeze it with titanium backup.. or unistall if you are sure its not needed.. your system does not simply use more ram randomly...
Greetings

blckstr said:
Hello there
I have just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. But it consumes too much ram.
This causes instability and excessive battery usage.
Do I have any chance about this?
Thanks
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RAM is there to be used. Free RAM is useless RAM. The more RAM it's using, the lower the battery usage because it doesn't have to go to flash memory for data.

Gasaraki- said:
RAM is there to be used. Free RAM is useless RAM. The more RAM it's using, the lower the battery usage because it doesn't have to go to flash memory for data.
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Like he says when it comes to Linux the more ram in use the better.
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I found the problem. It is TouchWiz.
After disabling it and installing a new launcher, Nova Prime, I have no ram and lag issues.
Yes I agree about ram thing but with a huge amount of ram usage multi-tasking is not efficent.

Been running Nova Prime with Lag for several months, still lags. Disable the card reduces the lag a bit. That though is not an option.
Via my Note 3

{Diemex} said:
More ram doesn't really make a device faster. Nowadays it's a lot more about the software and drivers etc.. Samsung sometimes neglects that and focuses on adding software stuff that they can advertise. I wrote a guide on speeding the device up. It assumes you have root, but you can just see how many apps you can disable in the settings. Might be enough.
After applying all the steps and keeping my device clean it's the fastest tablet I ever had in my hands.
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BclingergFJ said:
Been running Nova Prime with Lag for several months, still lags. Disable the card reduces the lag a bit. That though is not an option.
Via my Note 3
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Diemex's guide is really helpful. Try it. Great work Diemex
After freezing TouchWiz via Rom Toolbox. My device became a '14 Ferrari from a '68 Beatle

Le Pro 3 tweaking, battery and free up ram

My free ram is about at 1.7 with 0 apps running in the task bar. Iam already using greenify, lspeed and uninstalled bunch of bloatware after rooting my device. Was wondering if we can all share how to improve battery life, tweak the stock rom further to free up more ramp?

Mine can go as high as 2.1 GB, unroot | google now launcher | limited the auto-launched apps
Running FB, Messenger, Work Email, Gmail, YahooMail, AdGuard, Fingerprint Service etc in the background.

Why would you want more free ram? In linux based os, free ram=unused uram=useless ram

Incogn said:
Why would you want more free ram? In linux based os, free ram=unused uram=useless ram
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It will determine how optimum your device is.
More free RAM = More Apps that you can load throughout the usage period. And it will keep the OS from reloading your apps.

Joms_US said:
It will determine how optimum your device is.
More free RAM = More Apps that you can load throughout the usage period. And it will keep the OS from reloading your apps.
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A bit of both though, clearing apps out of ram will then cause them to cold launch which is slower. I guess that's not really what you're after though. If you're after base level free ram, that's ok, as long as you're disabling things that you won't be relaunching. For what it's worth though, free ram is about the same on CM so that's just where it sits on this phone. I've personally never had anything close and redraw/reopen on this phone on stock, CM, or miui (though miui has ram management adjustments to play with). Has this been an issue for you?

benjmiester said:
A bit of both though, clearing apps out of ram will then cause them to cold launch which is slower. I guess that's not really what you're after though. If you're after base level free ram, that's ok, as long as you're disabling things that you won't be relaunching. For what it's worth though, free ram is about the same on CM so that's just where it sits on this phone. I've personally never had anything close and redraw/reopen on this phone on stock, CM, or miui (though miui has ram management adjustments to play with). Has this been an issue for you?
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Rarely like when I loaded 10+ apps and games, couple of benchmarks then went back and forth to them.

Joms_US said:
Rarely like when I loaded 10+ apps and games, couple of benchmarks then went back and forth to them.
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Ah, that's certainly understandable, that's quite a load!

My have 3,5-4,5 of free RAM.

marik1 said:
My have 3,5-4,5 of free RAM.
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6GB variant? :cyclops:

Ofc, 4 gb cant have over it.

Im currently running the cm13 for the x727 4gb variant. I always have around 2.3 of free ram. Disabled all the bloatware that I saw fit and it runs smoothly. No cold launch.

Good to disable bloatwares, rarely used apps, apps causing wakelocks. Other than that, good to keep the apps in RAM. I see lots of people misusing Greenify misunderstanding this concept.

PeaKay.18 said:
Im currently running the cm13 for the x727 4gb variant. I always have around 2.3 of free ram. Disabled all the bloatware that I saw fit and it runs smoothly. No cold launch.
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How do you use headphones.... the included ones dont work correct?