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How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
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Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
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Linuxslate said:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
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So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
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My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
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Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
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This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
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pros and cons of nexus 7 2013?

everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?

How about some nice light bleeds in corners, or some dust under screen?
Oh wait, you haven't got them, right?
Here comes an update that kills your touch, hahahaaahahahaaa (said Google in Voldemort's most petrifying voice)
What the #$%@@? your touch is still intact...? well I've got an update that will kill your wifi. How about that huh....?

Doesn't have micro SD slot.
Doesn't have a snapdragon 800.
Doesn't have 4GB of ram.
Doesn't have a 4K screen.
Doesn't come with a chicken... Every top stuff comes with plus a chicken.

Pros:
BEAUTIFUL screen. It is gorgeous and very bright. You can't really say that about many tablets. It almost reaches to the level of my old Transformer Prime at 600 nits (it's about 583 nits at brightest)
Fast. This quad core S600-esque processor is so much faster than anything I've had for mobile. It's one of the reasons I upgraded
Cheap. It's $230 or $270. I got the $270 32GB which is roomy enough for my needs.
Long battery. I haven't had it for long, but I can already tell it is going to last almost as long as my TFP.
Small and can be held in a single hand.
REALLY good wifi reception.
GPS that works very well even inside
It's stock Google and will be updated as soon as KitKat or future Android upgrades come out. Plan for 2+ years of upgrades and support.
Loud stereo speakers
Support for practically any 3G/LTE data connection you'd like in the US.
Unlocked bootloader. You can modify anything inside this tablet.
Grippy matte-plastic back.
Sexy look, IMO
Thin and light.
Bluetooth Smart and 4.0 support. This will increase in popularity with wearable Bluetooth devices.
Cons:
Small screen. I think I would be happier with an 8" screen, but it's something I can live with.
No microSD slot. This is something that I can live with, and if you want, you can get a microUSB to microSD adapter.
Non-removable battery. You won't worry about this unless you are truly a road warrior. It should last you till you want to upgrade or longer.
No micro HDMI port. This, again, can be something I live with. You can use MHL I believe if you need it.
No TouchWiz or other OEM skins. Nothing I lose sleep over, just something for those who find the skinned editions of Android better than regular stock.
No camera flash. Doesn't bother me, I don't plan on taking pictures much with this tablet.
A few launch issues, maybe. It seems to be not too big (there are many users who probably don't have problems than the people who complain about it here) and is being resolved fairly quickly.
No vibrator. My hands miss the vibrations of my TFP, but it's ok.
No longer has a secure element with NFC. This means no more Google Wallet or other NFC-banking apps. You can still beam contacts and such. Not a big deal.
No 802.11ac wifi support. This isn't a big thing yet and is still just starting to get into mainstream routers. With the life time of your tablet, you probably won't see many AC routers until 2 years from now, and you probably won't be missing much. People still use .11g standards to this day.
The speakers apparently emit a hiss at low volume due to some digital volume reduction instead of using an actual amplifier.

swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Drop tests show no survivals. Get a case or else, which might increase weight and size.
There is only T-Mobile offering Lte in USA. Verizon clueless on imei. Checking at&t Lte again tomorrow, but no tethering regardless.

Cons. Random reboots
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usb otg support with stock rom?

With NMI, yes.
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oldtimer42 said:
Cons. Random reboots
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[751-775-false]
And in some cases, even a custom ROM just holds the issue at bay for a while...

For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.

owerner said:
For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.
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you could get the ipad mini...

swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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yea... *price*

I don't think there are any real cons to this tablet. Just personal preferences. Even the speaker hiss isn't noticeable unless you have ear pressed against the speaker. Overall its a very solid tablet.
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swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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And use their locked down OS?!?!?!
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I've had no problems such as the aforementioned dust or light bleeds. Rooted out of the box, put carbon on it, never had a random reboot either.

The only con so far is that I can't use my 8-bitty Bluetooth gamepad. The new Bluetooth stack doesn't support it.
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swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Here are some cons I am experiencing:
1.) BT unusable while connected to a 2.4 GHz WiFi:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/ORce7P9V4qU
I'll sell mine if they can't fix it.
2.) Ugly downscaling from 1920x1200 to 1728x1080 if using slimport/HDMI:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/cgKZEwu4CZg
"Workaround": Resolution Changer (root access req.!) from play store
3) Bad multi-touch behavior:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381123
Apart from the display resolution (that's what I've bought it for) and the CPU/GPU performance (I don't care - I'm not a gamer), my old Galaxy Tab 7.7 is much better.
regards
TrashX

Actually if your lucky like me I dropped mine today actually the screen kinda popped loose a little it cut off my heart stopped lol (literally) but I snapped the screen in turned right on I almost cried lol only thing it did was deleted some apps I had weird but no issues now and still looks new
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Is this phone worth it?

Hey, my iPhone decided to break on me, and I've decided to go back to Android. I've been looking at phone sizes less than 5.5" and this phone is one of them. Do you think this phone is worth it or are there any other smaller sized phones? Thanks (And ples give a phone thats atleast rootable)

Rekan_ said:
Hey, my iPhone decided to break on me, and I've decided to go back to Android. I've been looking at phone sizes less than 5.5" and this phone is one of them. Do you think this phone is worth it or are there any other smaller sized phones? Thanks (And ples give a phone thats atleast rootable)
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If you can get the 32gb one for the low $230ish prices that have been going around the last couple weeks, yes.
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I got this phone 4+ months ago after being a long time Galaxy S veteran from the first one to the sixth, and honestly the only thing I regret is the snappy response times on those phones and of course in galaxy s7 micro SD card came back too, so yea!
This phone gives you a pure Google Android experience. Whether you decide to root and/or install custom ROMs is also an option you can decide based on your needs. The Google's repository always has the latest ROM available for you to download and flash away on monthly bases if like to keep up with the updates and do a clean install of a full ROM. And about the over the air updates, if you don't like to wait for the next one to pop up some time, you can also download OTA updates from Google's repository too.
The physical build quality feels more on the cost saving side for Google and LG, and it doesn't feel as the premium phones do, but the plus side is since the back is not glass, it doesn't retain as much finger prints and stays cleaner in general. And it is light in weight.
Finger print reader works marvelously. Every single time.
Performance is good for daily use, average to low for a gamer.
Battery lasts about a day for my daily activities, if I'm on a plane or use it 5-6 hours straight (heavy use with Internet and screen brightness cranked up) I would charged twice a day.
The charging port/data port is USB type C. I had a wtf moment when I opened box and saw both sides of the charging cable having the same type of interface, but oh well. I finally bought a couple of cables for car charges, and computer.
Wifi connection is not snappy. On 2.4 GHz it lags and the ping times vary. 5 GHz connection is more reliable. I've tried using 3 different routers (airport extreme, Linksys ea8500, and a stock Xfinity router) and I've had the same experience. Not a big fan of this part as I've flashed the latest ROM onto this thing just to have a fresh clean install and got the same wifi results.
The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
I'm happy with it in general, so do I wish I waited for the S7, yes, but you can't beat the good price on Nexus 5x either.
It is really a personal choice, but here are a few things I'd to say. It is a trade-off like everything else you buy, but I in general like it.
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Commodore 64 said:
I got this phone 4+ months ago after being a long time Galaxy S veteran from the first one to the sixth, and honestly the only thing I regret is the snappy response times on those phones and of course in galaxy s7 micro SD card came back too, so yea!
This phone gives you a pure Google Android experience. Whether you decide to root and/or install custom ROMs is also an option you can decide based on your needs. The Google's repository always has the latest ROM available for you to download and flash away on monthly bases if like to keep up with the updates and do a clean install of a full ROM. And about the over the air updates, if you don't like to wait for the next one to pop up some time, you can also download OTA updates from Google's repository too.
The physical build quality feels more on the cost saving side for Google and LG, and it doesn't feel as the premium phones do, but the plus side is since the back is not glass, it doesn't retain as much finger prints and stays cleaner in general. And it is light in weight.
Finger print reader works marvelously. Every single time.
Performance is good for daily use, average to low for a gamer.
Battery lasts about a day for my daily activities, if I'm on a plane or use it 5-6 hours straight (heavy use with Internet and screen brightness cranked up) I would charged twice a day.
The charging port/data port is USB type C. I had a wtf moment when I opened box and saw both sides of the charging cable having the same type of interface, but oh well. I finally bought a couple of cables for car charges, and computer.
Wifi connection is not snappy. On 2.4 GHz it lags and the ping times vary. 5 GHz connection is more reliable. I've tried using 3 different routers (airport extreme, Linksys ea8500, and a stock Xfinity router) and I've had the same experience. Not a big fan of this part as I've flashed the latest ROM onto this thing just to have a fresh clean install and got the same wifi results.
The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
I'm happy with it in general, so do I wish I waited for the S7, yes, but you can't beat the good price on Nexus 5x either.
It is really a personal choice, but here are a few things I'd to say. It is a trade-off like everything else you buy, but I in general like it.
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Wow, thanks, I'm also an ex-Samsung user. Had a lot of their flagships before I brought a 6S, but the S7 for me is asking for too much money, so I'm probably going to go for this phone. Also, how is the camera quality?

Very good photo quality. It is surprisingly good during low light photos. There is also a dedicated thread for photos taken with Nexus 5x, which I found useful when reading about this phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/excellent-camera-t3230797
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Commodore 64 said:
The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
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Actually the 5x display is higher than retina quality (more pixels per inch) and also has more accurate colours than iPhone 6s as shown by Anandtech.
I think we can safely say the screen is better than what's used on the iPhone 6s and surpasses the "retina" base mark for pixel density.

Question Rog 6 Experience

Hows everyone's experience with the rog 6? can it run global rom and will google assistant work with it?

Bricked Stupid update procedure

Doesn't all android phones nowadays work with Google Assistant?
My ROG2 and ROG6 has Google Assistant but I always disable them.
I thought Google requires/mandates all OEM so include some specific Android features and Google-made apps.

iMoc said:
Bricked Stupid update procedHow is the update procedure stupid?
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ausaras said:
Doesn't all android phones nowadays work with Google Assistant?
My ROG2 and ROG6 has Google Assistant but I always disable them.
I thought Google requires/mandates all OEM so include some specific Android features and Google-made apps.
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They do and I also always disable it too along with a tonof other things from Google. Google Assistant is basically spyware along with most of the other junk from Google. Result is improved privacy and increased device performance/battery life.

Andrologic said:
They do and I also always disable it too along with a tonof other things from Google. Google Assistant is basically spyware along with most of the other junk from Google. Result is improved privacy and increased device performance/battery life.
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That's true but also happens with all company's
The company I trust the less: Apple.

Has been a beautiful experience for me. Most smooth smartphone experience i have ever had. Battery king, performance king, and the only weakness ROG phones have ever had has been fixed with the new sensor - speaking of the camera of course.
with the camera now finally usable, it is the complete package for me. After successfully converting my CN device to WW, i think im staying with this one for a while and selling my S22 Ultra.
you would need to be very careless and not read through instructions / forum threads to brick your device, flashing WW raw files is as simple as a button click.

How do speakers loudness & quality compare with:
- any previous ROG phones
- S22 ultra (just kidding)

mahdibassam said:
Has been a beautiful experience for me. Most smooth smartphone experience i have ever had. Battery king, performance king, and the only weakness ROG phones have ever had has been fixed with the new sensor - speaking of the camera of course.
with the camera now finally usable, it is the complete package for me. After successfully converting my CN device to WW, i think im staying with this one for a while and selling my S22 Ultra.
you would need to be very careless and not read through instructions / forum threads to brick your device, flashing WW raw files is as simple as a button click.
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Interesting. What kind of battery life screen on time you getting? Thanks

lawtq said:
Interesting. What kind of battery life screen on time you getting? Thanks
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The battery life you should be able to achieve with a hardcore debloated and battery optimized ROG 6 should be ridiculous high. My ROG 5 & 3 easily do multiple days on a full charge with data on and normal screen time and can do a week+ on standby with data on as a reference. I haven't bothered measuring the max screen time I get out of them. ROG 6 running on the latest 8+ Gen 1 chipset allegedly has significantly improved power consumption stats - which should result in great battery time even if not heavily optimized and monster results if optimized with battery performance in mind.

Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame

nadejo said:
Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame
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Its a no contest for me , ROG 6 wins purely because of massive battery and the samsung panel, not to mention the camera.
Also, i can confirm the device DOES have preinstalled screen protector. I bought two devices (CN 256GB and Global 512GB) and they both had it.

mahdibassam said:
Its a no contest for me , ROG 6 wins purely because of massive battery and the samsung panel, not to mention the camera.
Also, i can confirm the device DOES have preinstalled screen protector. I bought two devices (CN 256GB and Global 512GB) and they both had it.
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You're the one to ask then. Is there that much of a difference in software once you put the CN version into English? Call recording available on the CN version?
How're you liking them? How's battery? Lol thanks

Hi all, did anyone try connecting a type-c to hdmi cable/hub and managed to get it to work? I tried it with a Baseus hdmi+usb hub and Samsung Dex station, both not working. Phone is CN version and connected through the usb 3.1 port with aero-cooler attached to the other port.

IversGarn said:
Hi all, did anyone try connecting a type-c to hdmi cable/hub and managed to get it to work? I tried it with a Baseus hdmi+usb hub and Samsung Dex station, both not working. Phone is CN version and connected through the usb 3.1 port with aero-cooler attached to the other port.
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Hi, I can confirm it's working on the sided USB-C with Dell USB-C docking station - Dell D3100.
It does work with:
- HDMI signal -> HDMI switch -> Samsung 32"
- mouse Logitech G604
- keyboard G915 does not always work.
- soundcard Creative X G6
It was without Aerocooler with I'm selling since I don't play games. I just wanted to have a fast, smooth smartphone with 512GB of memory to replace my Oneplus 7 Pro 12/256 (it's such a great phone BTW).

Maybe I'm impatient and can't wait for the global version to start shipping but can someone who owns the devil case for rog phone 6 or 6 pro measure the scope vertically and horizontally with the case installed please? I want to order a custom phone bag and don't want to wait for the device to arrive.
I'd be very grateful Thanks!

nadejo said:
Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame
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omg im right now in the same situation , im confused between 7s pro and Rog 6 tencent , i am littreally browsing forums and youtube to find an honest comparison for the twi devices.... what do you suggest me to get ???

abdennour.tlb said:
omg im right now in the same situation , im confused between 7s pro and Rog 6 tencent , i am littreally browsing forums and youtube to find an honest comparison for the twi devices.... what do you suggest me to get ???
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ROG 6 imo based on stability, battery size and screen from Samsung which is really good.
The thing 7s Pro has is faster charging (it you need that fast) and longer software support which is nice. This software is less good though and less stable (have used the 7)

Question Should I purchase a Pixel 6 considering eol?

TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
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Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.

Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.

I will probably update to the pixel 8 pro after my 6 pro. I think even the 6 pro is worth getting for $250. I have lineage os 20 on my 6 pro and those updates should last quite a while. I'd invest in it.

peele87 said:
TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
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Also, considering custom Roms and GSI, you can run anything you want. Like my backup phone, Oneplus Nord N10 5G only got android 11, and ROM support is dead for it. It is running Crdoid 2/20/2023 android 13 GSI ROM with 0 issues

Custom ROMs and GSI (Generic System Image) provide an opportunity for users to install and run a different version of the Android operating system on their devices. They are particularly useful for devices that no longer receive official software updates or have limited support from the manufacturer.
In the case mentioned, the Oneplus Nord N10 5G only had official support up to Android 11 and no longer received updates. However, the user was able to install a custom ROM called Crdoid 2/20/2023 based on Android 13 GSI, which allowed them to run the latest version of Android on their device without issues.
Custom ROMs and GSI may require some technical knowledge and effort to install, but they offer the flexibility to customize and modify the device's software to suit individual preferences. They also provide an opportunity to extend the lifespan of older devices by enabling them to run newer software.
However, it is essential to note that installing custom ROMs or GSI may void the device's warranty and can also pose some security risks if not done correctly. It is always advisable to research and follow the installation instructions carefully, and only install ROMs from trusted sources.

skoda9635 said:
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
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I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.

MapzOr said:
I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.

skoda9635 said:
Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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I have seen several reviews and almost no one mentioned the issues I faced, especially the battery drain on LTE and ultra wide camera.