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Im comming from a Nexus 4. At this moment i am using stock rom with s-on on my international htc one m8. Only thing i did is rooting it and flashed a custom recovery from philz. Now my question is, how can i update to the newest firmware. It is a bit complicated compared to the nexus 4, so i dont want to do anything wrong. Ive red about relocking the bootloader and some orher stuff, but dont get it. I would appreciate any help and info i can get.. i put a screenshot of my current setup..
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When you say "firmware" do you just mean the Android software version? If so, just flash in recovery a stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM based on the newer software. No need to mess with relocking the bootloader to install an official OTA update or RUU. In my opinion, here is little to no good reason to install official updates on a modded/rooted phone.
Reason I ask the first question above, many of the folks here refer to "firmware" as the other modules deployed with the OS, including hboot, radio, and other media modules. Flashing this is still possible on a modded device, just a little different.
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When you say "firmware" do you just mean the Android software version? If so, just flash in recovery a stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM based on the newer software. No need to mess with relocking the bootloader to install an official OTA update or RUU. In my opinion, here is little to no good reason to install official updates on a modded/rooted phone.
Reason I ask the first question above, many of the folks here refer to "firmware" as the other modules deployed with the OS, including hboot, radio, and other media modules. Flashing this is still possible on a modded device, just a little different.
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Thanks for the answer. by updating the firmware i mean the complete software, just like we get it OTA. The nexus was peace of cake, just install thr new rom and radios and you were done. But this htc thing needs some practicing i think.
soylukral said:
Thanks for the answer. by updating the firmware i mean the complete software, just like we get it OTA. The nexus was peace of cake, just install thr new rom and radios and you were done. But this htc thing needs some practicing i think.
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That part is not much different with the M8. If you want a new ROM, just flash a stock rooted ROM or custom in recovery. If you want a new radio, just get it from the following thread and flash it. Only difference, if you need S-off. so look for either firewater or sunshine s-off method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
Yes, you can install the "complete" firmware package (search around and you will find them, usually flashed with fastboot/adb). But these are usually not necessary. If a ROM requires a newer firmware package, it will be discussed in that ROM thread.
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That part is not much different with the M8. If you want a new ROM, just flash a stock rooted ROM or custom in recovery. If you want a new radio, just get it from the following thread and flash it. Only difference, if you need S-off. so look for either firewater or sunshine s-off method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
Yes, you can install the "complete" firmware package (search around and you will find them, usually flashed with fastboot/adb). But these are usually not necessary. If a ROM requires a newer firmware package, it will be discussed in that ROM thread.
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So what i understand is, as long as you stay stock rooted, you can update with a stock rooted rom without having s-off. Am i right? What i dont understand is that they are talking about you cant update from 4.4.2 1.54 to 4.4.3 2.22 without relocking your bootloader..
soylukral said:
So what i understand is, as long as you stay stock rooted, you can update with a stock rooted rom without having s-off. Am i right? What i dont understand is that they are talking about you cant update from 4.4.2 1.54 to 4.4.3 2.22 without relocking your bootloader..
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You seem to be talking about 2 different things.
If you are talking about updating (flashing) a stock rooted ROM, that would be a user created ROM posted here in Development. If that is the case, you can flash whatever ROM you want from Development while S-on.
But if you are talking about installing official OTA updates, you need to relock your bootloader with s-on; and you also need to revert to stock recovery. You can flash these with the bootloader unlocked with S-off (stock recovery is still required). The other catch is, that if you change or remove any system files while rooted, an OTA will not install.
My opinion is not to install OTAs on a rooted phone. Its extra steps and extra hassle (relocking bootloader, re-installing stock recovery). Plus, you never know what exploits have been patched with the new OTAs. For instance, the more recent hboots plugged the firewater s-off. Its a much better idea to just flash stock rooted or custom ROMs posted in Development, as they often get updated very quickly to the new software versions anyway. And that is what XDA is all about, anyway.
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You seem to be talking about 2 different things.
If you are talking about updating (flashing) a stock rooted ROM, that would be a user created ROM posted here in Development. If that is the case, you can flash whatever ROM you want from Development while S-on.
But if you are talking about installing official OTA updates, you need to relock your bootloader with s-on; and you also need to revert to stock recovery. You can flash these with the bootloader unlocked with S-off (stock recovery is still required). The other catch is, that if you change or remove any system files while rooted, an OTA will not install.
My opinion is not to install OTAs on a rooted phone. Its extra steps and extra hassle (relocking bootloader, re-installing stock recovery). Plus, you never know what exploits have been patched with the new OTAs. For instance, the more recent hboots plugged the firewater s-off. Its a much better idea to just flash stock rooted or custom ROMs posted in Development, as they often get updated very quickly to the new software versions anyway. And that is what XDA is all about, anyway.
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sorry about asking this many questions but, the main thing is that i want to update to the latest released software 4.4.3 2.22. can you discribe me the steps i have to follow. because im sorry but it is still not 100% clear. believe me i flashed many many roms kernels tweaks and lots of other stuff, but comming from a nexus device this is a nightmare.
soylukral said:
sorry about asking this many questions but, the main thing is that i want to update to the latest released software 4.4.3 2.22. can you discribe me the steps i have to follow. because im sorry but it is still not 100% clear. believe me i flashed many many roms kernels tweaks and lots of other stuff, but comming from a nexus device this is a nightmare.
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i was looking at ARHD 10.1 with the latest 4.4.3 2.22 software, can i just flash this over my stock rooted 4.4.2 1.54?
soylukral said:
sorry about asking this many questions
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No worries, that is what this forum is for!
One thing I was not fully aware of, while ARHD will flash just fine over your stock ROM; folks seem to be having trouble with Android 4.4.3 (software 2.22) based ROMs and old "firmware" (reference Post #2, paragraph 2 above). This includes issues with no sound (which I suspect the "media" module within the firmware package is the culprit).
So if you want to flash a 2.22 based ROM, it looks like you need to S-off and flash the firmware package before flashing ARHD. Details on flashing the firmware package can be found by reading the ARHD thread, or also (more easily) by referring to Section 3 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727/post53807690
Updating the "firmware" package is often not needed to just flash a custom ROM. This happens to be one of the exceptions.
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No worries, that is what this forum is for!
One thing I was not fully aware of, while ARHD will flash just fine over your stock ROM; folks seem to be having trouble with Android 4.4.3 (software 2.22) based ROMs and old "firmware" (reference Post #2, paragraph 2 above). This includes issues with no sound (which I suspect the "media" module within the firmware package is the culprit).
So if you want to flash a 2.22 based ROM, it looks like you need to S-off and flash the firmware package before flashing ARHD. Details on flashing the firmware package can be found by reading the ARHD thread, or also (more easily) by referring to Section 3 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727/post53807690
Updating the "firmware" package is often not needed to just flash a custom ROM. This happens to be one of the exceptions.
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thanks anyway, you did help me get wiser. what i understand is that S-OFF is a must have to be that free as on the nexus 4. i will look further. thanks again..
soylukral said:
thanks anyway, you did help me get wiser. what i understand is that S-OFF is a must have to be that free as on the nexus 4. i will look further. thanks again..
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S-off is usually not needed to flash a ROM itself. But yes, its a must if you want to flash radio, hboot, firmware packages, and some other things.
My M8 has the CID of HTC_044 and I would like to flash latest ROM. However it requires latest firmware, ie 2.22.401.4, I am wondering if it is safe to flash the firmware to my device being with different CID as the firmware's android-info does not contain my device CID.
I have S-OFF on my device, I am wondering if I change mt CID to supercid would allow my device to run the firmware without issue.
Thanks in advance.
Yep,if your phone is supercid,u can flash that firmware...
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My M8 has the CID of HTC_044 and I would like to flash latest ROM. However it requires latest firmware, ie 2.22.401.4, I am wondering if it is safe to flash the firmware to my device being with different CID as the firmware's android-info does not contain my device CID.
I have S-OFF on my device, I am wondering if I change mt CID to supercid would allow my device to run the firmware without issue.
Thanks in advance.
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If your firmware for CID HTC__044 is 2.22.707.3, it is not necessary for you to flash another firmware to run a 2.22.401.4 ROM.
As long as the firmware is 2.22.xxx.x ... you're good to go.
Anyway it's up to you if you want to flash 2.22.401.4 firmware but your Radio will be the EU region if the firmware that you flash come with radio image. If you currently in Asia, it's best to keep 2.22.707.3 firmware
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Yep,if your phone is supercid,u can flash that firmware...
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Thank you!
ckpv5 said:
If your firmware for CID HTC__044 is 2.22.707.3, it is not necessary for you to flash another firmware to run a 2.22.401.4 ROM.
As long as the firmware is 2.22.xxx.x ... you're good to go.
Anyway it's up to you if you want to flash 2.22.401.4 firmware but your Radio will be the EU region if the firmware that you flash come with radio image. If you currently in Asia, it's best to keep 2.22.707.3 firmware
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Thank you! However I have heard there was one 2.22.7xx posted but was meant for M7, and at the moment I could not find 2.22.707.3 firmware from any firmware repository. I'm from Asia, could you please kindly post the link so that I wont brick my phone? Thank you!!
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Thank you! However I have heard there was one 2.22.7xx posted but was meant for M7, and at the moment I could not find 2.22.707.3 firmware from any firmware repository. I'm from Asia, could you please kindly post the link so that I wont brick my phone? Thank you!!
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When we read firmware we look at x.xx.707.x not 2.22.7xx.x
You don't need 2.22.707.3 firmware if you already done the OTA update.
Please advise your current firmware that you have ... check what is written on the bootloader ... is it 1.54.707.7 or 2.22.707.3 ?
If it is 1.54.707.7 then you need to do OTA update.
If it is 2.22.707.3 then you're good to flash any ROM.
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When we read firmware we look at x.xx.707.x not 2.22.7xx.x
You don't need 2.22.707.3 firmware if you already done the OTA update.
Please advise your current firmware that you have ... check what is written on the bootloader ... is it 1.54.707.7 or 2.22.77.3 ?
If it is 1.54.707.7 then you need to do OTA update.
If it is 2.22.707.3 then you're good to flash any ROM.
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Couldn't check my firmware version as the OS field is empty in the bootloader.
Hboot: 3.16.0.0000
Radio: 1.16.2133156.UA10G
But I highly doubt my firmware is 2.22.707.3, I would think it is more likely to be 1.54.707.7 as I have rooted by phone before newer firmware roll out.
So can I use your firmware in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376&page=141
and flash it by using this guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Couldn't check my firmware version as the OS field is empty in the bootloader.
Hboot: 3.16.0.0000
Radio: 1.16.2133156.UA10G
But I highly doubt my firmware is 2.22.707.3, I would think it is more likely to be 1.54.707.7 as I have rooted by phone before newer firmware roll out.
So can I use your firmware in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376&page=141
and flash it by using this guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Right ... your current hboot is 3.16 so it's 1.54.707.7
I suggest that you restore 1.54.707.7 stock Backup, flash back stock recovery and do the OTA (no need to relock bootloader or S-On .. OTA update work on unlocked bootloader and S-Off)
I don't post firmware on XDA. Those that I posted are recovery and stock backup.
If you insist to update firmware without OTA update .. that's you call. Someone maybe will guide you how to do it as I don't feel comfortable telling how to update firmware.
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Right ... your current hboot is 3.16 so it's 1.54.707.7
I suggest that you restore 1.54.707.7 stock Backup, flash back stock recovery and do the OTA (no need to relock bootloader or S-On .. OTA update work on unlocked bootloader and S-Off)
I don't post firmware on XDA. Those that I posted are recovery and stock backup.
If you insist to update firmware without OTA update .. that's you call. Someone maybe will guide you how to do it as I don't feel comfortable telling how to update firmware.
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Awesome! I just followed your advice by doing the safe way, flashed stock recovery and backup. I'm running on 2.22.707.x now! Thanks a lot :good:
hellcommando said:
Awesome! I just followed your advice by doing the safe way, flashed stock recovery and backup. I'm running on 2.22.707.x now! Thanks a lot :good:
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Great
Now you can flash any Sense 6 custom ROM that you like.
Only remember that you don't need to flash another firmware, your current one is good enough.. just flash ROM.
I am having the same issue - I have the HTC__044 and need new firmware to get the newest ROM.
I am S-On and CANT get S-off (s-off needed to flash firmware)...firewater does not work with my phone after multiple tries.
I tried getting Sunshine to work for s-off, but I need to be on a stock Sense ROM (I am on Viper 1.8) and don't have a stock backup. I can't find ANY stock ROM's online! Once I have supercid i was going to flash firmware, but without S off...I'm going nowhere (it seems)
anyone have an idea where I should start?
charkswitlazers said:
I am having the same issue - I have the HTC__044 and need new firmware to get the newest ROM.
I am S-On and CANT get S-off (s-off needed to flash firmware)...firewater does not work with my phone after multiple tries.
I tried getting Sunshine to work for s-off, but I need to be on a stock Sense ROM (I am on Viper 1.8) and don't have a stock backup. I can't find ANY stock ROM's online! Once I have supercid i was going to flash firmware, but without S off...I'm going nowhere (it seems)
anyone have an idea where I should start?
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Stock ROMs and recoveries for HTC__044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
charkswitlazers said:
anyone have an idea where I should start?
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Everything that you need is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
1. Restore nandroid backup 1.54.707.7
2. flash stock recovery 1.54.707.7
3. reboot and check for OTA
4. install OTA
5. done .. your ROM will be 4.4.3 - 2.22.707.3
6. flash any 4.4.3 custom ROM that you like if any
All above no need to relock bootloader or S-Off, it works on S-On
If you want to S-Off with sunshine, step 1 & 2 then sunshine
or after step 5 then sunshine (both way should work)
ckpv5 said:
Everything that you need is here
1. Restore nandroid backup 1.54.707.7
2. flash stock recovery 1.54.707.7
3. reboot and check for OTA
4. install OTA
5. done .. your ROM will be 4.4.3 - 2.22.707.3
6. flash any 4.4.3 custom ROM that you like if any
All above no need to relock bootloader or S-Off, it works on S-On
If you want to S-Off with sunshine, step 1 & 2 then sunshine
or after step 5 then sunshine (both way should work)
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I'm still a little on the noob side with rooting/flashing..I am at work and don't have time to read much - i will go home and give it a go... I'm sure I will have lots of questions
A quick look at the site, i saw lots of recoveries but not very many stock ROMs. I mainly just need a plain/rooted stock Sense rom to run Sunshine. After which i can flash new firmware, then the new custom ROM i've been wanting. Also, does a nandroid HAVE to be HTC__044, or can it be any WWE cid? (like anything that's "HTC__xxx")?
Excuse my ignorance...trying to learn as much as possible
I just got my m8 from Tmobile today, and I am on firmware 157.531.7
I've checked several times for updated firmware, but always comes back nothing.
Am I stuck on this, or will it take awhile for the network to "see me" and send it?
not rooted, fully stock for now
thanks so much!
charkswitlazers said:
I'm still a little on the noob side with rooting/flashing..I am at work and don't have time to read much - i will go home and give it a go... I'm sure I will have lots of questions
A quick look at the site, i saw lots of recoveries but not very many stock ROMs. I mainly just need a plain/rooted stock Sense rom to run Sunshine. After which i can flash new firmware, then the new custom ROM i've been wanting. Also, does a nandroid HAVE to be HTC__044, or can it be any WWE cid? (like anything that's "HTC__xxx")?
Excuse my ignorance...trying to learn as much as possible
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If your main purpose to restore to stock to get SunShine working, then any nandroid backup will do either HTC__044 or WWE. You don't really need a rooted stock as SunShine works on non-rooted ROM too.
As you said you're a noob, that is why I suggest to restore to 1.54.707.7 then OTA to 2.22.707.3 so you don't need to manually flash firmware to get other custom ROMs running flawlessly. It is not necessary to have 2.22.401.4 firmware but it is necessary to have a 2.22.xxx.x firmware for those custom ROMs, unless you're not in Asia.
As you can see in my sig, I'm on 2.22.707.3 firmware, I can run any ROM without problem.
Being a noob, you may make a stupid mistake when flashing firmware.
There is also by mike or so a stock Rom as a zip.
Flash it like a custom Rom Flash the stock kernel and better the recovery and do sunshine...easier then with getting nandroid backup etc
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One-M8-Master said:
There is also by mike or so a stock Rom as a zip.
Flash it like a custom Rom Flash the stock kernel and better the recovery and do sunshine...easier then with getting nandroid backup etc
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Hi One-M8-Master,
I've read quite a few of your posts & given that your moniker seems appropriate, I'm wondering if you might be able to help me?
I've posted this on another thread but haven't got very far as yet, so am hoping that you might be able to get me out of the stupid hole I've dug myself into :fingers-crossed:
It is quite a long description but if you don't fall asleep reading it, I'd really appreciate any help you might be able to give me.....Here goes:
"Hi Guys,
Now I know you're all already thinking that I didn't update my firmware before I flashed ARHD & now I'm getting all the problems that come along with not doing that......& you'd be correct....kind of. HOWEVER, as it turns out, I already seem to have it. Let me explain.
As you can see, I'm relatively new to all this but successfully unlocked, rooted & installed a custom ROM on my ASUS TF700T tablet, so I wanted to do it with my One M8. I always do loads of reading before I start anything (I even read the instructions for new games before I attempt to play them because I'm a bit weird like that!) but what happened on this occasion was that I did the reading, unlocked the phone, flashed TWRP, & rooted it but then ran into the problem that some people appear to have had when trying to s-off via the adb commands & Firewater, that is, my pc could see the phone but when I gave the reboot command, it told me it wasn't connected.
I then got into hours of reading to try & solve this issue, discovered that (without Sunlight) on some devices it just doesn't work once you've accepted the 'should we allow this pc to connect every time' message (which I NEVER normally say 'yes' to), unless you install the Android Studio & Java Develpers Kits, update your version of adb, & force the phone to ask again (which I did but it turned out that I already had the latest version of adb, so that route proved fruitless!). I actually missed a night's sleep trying to resolve the problem, so work wasn't good the next day! but I think it is here is where my problems started because I was so tired & frustrated that I just picked a ROM & flashed it. I had even read the warning about not flashing it if you didn't have the correct firmware but I think that being so tired, it didn't really sink in, or I'd forgotten about it by the time I just flashed the ROM.
By this point, I'd been sat in front of my pc for about 30 hours & needed to go to work but the phone was actually booting through to ARHD, so I was relatively happy in the knowledge that at least I hadn't bricked it! On starting to use the phone that evening, I noticed the long boot times & then that my Sense 6 Toolbox didn't seem to be making any changes, even if I rebooted the device, so I went back to the beginning of this thread & started reading again. Thus, I re-read the firmware warning & panicked (my 2nd mistake!), thinking that I was getting the problems because I hadn't updated the firmware (it still didn't occur to me to just check because I think I just assumed that I wouldn't have it). So.....I tried to restore my TWRP backup of the stock ROM that I made after I had unlocked/rooted, with the intention of reverting to the stock ROM, getting the OTA update & then re-flashing ARHD but despite TWRP telling me that the backup had been successful, the phone went into a bootloop back into TWRP. I solved this by re-flashing the ARHD ROM that I knew at least would get my phone out of the bootloop & back into KitKat, which it did. I then checked what version of the firmware I had & to my surprise, my Build Number in About\Software Information\More says "2.22.401.4 CL365360 release-keys", so it looks like I had the correct firmware version all along?
The above being the case, I'm now puzzled as to why I'm getting the problems that I'm getting with ARHD? Does anyone have any clues/answers that might get me out of this hole I've dug for myself & get my awesome One M8 working like it should?
I know I've caused this problem by doing things when I was too tired to think straight but I'm fresh as a daisy now (still fairly noobish but fresh ) & now I need your help to sort myself out. I would be so grateful for any help anyone can give me to get me back on track.
I hope all of that makes sense & thanks in advance."
@dan5001
The firmware you speak of is the displayed version main number of the flashed rom. It has no relation to your actual installed firmware. Check your bootloader and post here what it says. I bet it is still hboot 3.16 and if that's the case your firmware is not updated.
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@dan5001
The firmware you speak of is the displayed version main number of the flashed rom. It has no relation to your actual installed firmware. Check your bootloader and post here what it says. I bet it is still hboot 3.16 and if that's the case your firmware is not updated.
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Hi.
This is my own fault but I'm getting really frustrated with it because I've probably spent a total of 40 hours on it so far
I tell you that because I know that I needed S-OFF & SUPER CID to be able to update my firmware, so I just thought "screw it" & I paid for Sunshine. I now have S-OFF & following Vomer's guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
I now have S-OFF & SUPER CID. I thought that would be the end of my issues but it would appear not!
Looking at my bootloader, you are correct, HBOOT is 3.16.0.0000!
However, I've tried to upgrade this firmware by downloading what I think is the correct update .zip from the list at the bottom of the aforementioned Vomer's guide (v2.22.401.5 (Rename to firmware.zip after downloading)), renaming it as suggested, & then flashing it in TWRP but it just keeps telling me that the update has failed!
Do I have to do it using the adb commands on Vomers guide? I didn't think so but it's just not working??
I appreciate any help you can give me with this. Given that I've spent so long on this & have paid for Sunshine, you can see that I'm trying to help myself but I've still got rain!!
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Just a thought, I do still have ARHD v10.2 installed at the moment because even though it's not working properly without the correct firmware, it's the only ROM I've got at the moment, so it means I can use the M8 to a degree; would that cause the problem with upgrading the firmware?
Firmware flash can be done via fastboot commands, that's how i did it
Installed rom has no influence on the to flash firmware, try it via fastboot
I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
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I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
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"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
edit.. there is now a way to remove modified status without flashing rom
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"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
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Thanks for all of the info. I wish simply rooting your phone wasn't such a pain. I guess I'll just flash TWRP, make a backup of my phone, and then root it and then if I need to do an OTA I can just restore the backup and flash the stock recovery. I found this download site for the recovery. I'm assuming I'd pick developer and then recovery. Do I use the signed one? What happens if I flash the wrong recovery? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=28830
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
theloneranger08 said:
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
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Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
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Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
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So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
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Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
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Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
theloneranger08 said:
Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
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Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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Awesome, thanks I really appreciate it. I'll definitely let you know if I have any questions.
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So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Check it out this http://www.bestandroidrootedapps.com/how-to-root-htc-one-m9-and-also-have-custom-recovery-installed-on-it/
I see the One m9 Marshmallow update is out today.
If we are currently rooted with TWRP and S-OFF, what do we need to do to get the OTA?
I assume flash the stock recovery back first, take the OTA, then reflash twrp and root again?
Did I miss anything?
You have to be 100% stock (other than s-off) to take an OTA, which means running a RUU.
But being s-off, why not just wait until the firmware gets posted and update manually?
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You have to be 100% stock (other than s-off) to take an OTA, which means running a RUU.
But being s-off, why not just wait until the firmware gets posted and update manually?
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Ah yes of course... good call. Thanks
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You have to be 100% stock (other than s-off) to take an OTA, which means running a RUU.
But being s-off, why not just wait until the firmware gets posted and update manually?
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How would you update manually?
Manually - in case of S-OFF - means flashing firmware that has e.g. been extracted from the OTA using fastboot.
In such a case it is even possible to exchange the stock recovery by the latest TWRP, to be able to flash custom ROMs right away after doing the manual upgrade.
As those named firmware zip-files in most cases you're going to find around this forum, are no longer files which are signed by HTC they can only be flashed if your device got S-OFF'd.
That's as far as a brief explanation of the term "manually" is possible.
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Hey everyone, I'm new to HTC devices so hoping to clarify a couple things. I read through the PSAs and the stickies but I'm still a little confused.
Unlocked, s-off, and assuming I don't care about personal data wipe, if I modify system and want to go back to stock system (no relock or s-on) can I just restore a stock system img backup in twrp? Is there a quicker way to go about this? Should I wipe system prior to doing this or does it not matter? I'm simply trying to remove audio mods that broke boomsound
Also, when it comes to updating, do you have to relock to accept an ota after restoring stock sys/recovery with s-off? Can you just flash the firmware zip inside of the OTA if you want a stock update while s-off or are there complications to this?
Lastly, can you use an RUU from a newer firmware than what you're currently running or does it have to be matching?
Thanks
RUU is a good method
for unlocked edition:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/unlocked-official-ruu-t3378540
for Verizon:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/verizon-official-ruu-1-19-605-9-t3377586
will get you back to stock, You will have to reflash twrp however.
But it will keep s-off.
If you are s-off you can flash anything. regardless of what you are currently on.
From the other threads about updating. As long as your recovery is stock you should be able to take OTA's.
Noob766 said:
RUU seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/unlocked-official-ruu-t3378540
will get you back to stock, You will have to reflash twrp however.
But it will keep s-off.
If you are s-off you can flash anything. regardless of what you are currently on.
From the other threads about updating. As long as your recovery is stock you should be able to take OTA's.
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Watch out pointing to ruu files if you do not know the specific details of the device. WWE devices shoudp not flash sprint or verizon ruu files. Those things might brick the radio ! Being s-off doesn't instantly mean you can flash ANYTHING !
flashing a ruu is fine but keep it in line with your original firmware/build !
s-on : you can only flash a ruu that has the same firmware or a higher one as the devices firmware, you can not downgrade the firmware/bootloader
s-off : you can change cid and mid, convert the phone, flash different region firmware and downgrade the bootloader.
And no you do not have to relock anything. Just the stock rom/image and recovery is enough to enable ota updates
So, for a HTC noob, after flashing twrp/root, maybe changing system, how do you backup and restore back to stock? I can't find a clear guide on this, thanks
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So I can extract the full FW from ota and flash it to upgrade without keeping personal data right? Will this update everything or just system partition? (do I have to find radio updates elsewhere?)
And do I have to wipe anything prior to restoring backup in TWRP for a clean install? Mega noob questions
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So, for a HTC noob, after flashing twrp/root, maybe changing system, how do you backup and restore back to stock? I can't find a clear guide on this, thanks
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Did you ever figure it out? I'm in the same boat as you. With past phones, I've always used Odin and LGUP. I have no idea how to revert on my HTC 10.
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Did you ever figure it out? I'm in the same boat as you. With past phones, I've always used Odin and LGUP. I have no idea how to revert on my HTC 10.
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I answered this in the thread that you started.