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I dont know how people will react to my thread. So I want to refer to what we stand for!
As always I want make sure everyone knows that im not a new user Ive been here for over 8 years now and seen this site just when it started I started a thread before to see If I could find some of the pioneers on the site and they give their stories to share with us.
But Ive seen them all going from my treo 750 (windows mobile) and three othe wm phones to my few android devices ive been here Ive currently reside over at the now slow dhd/inspire forums as my temporary home.
But development there has become slow not for the fact that the device has reach its limits. As the Hd2 proove this wrong. But by the fact of people that have entered development with a "indibidualist" mind set.
What is this?
Weve reach what we have over the year becoming a universal development forum ( even with iphone development) By having one state of mind and one only. Enriching each other with knowledge. This way we all make our way in to making the best of our highly paid devices. Weve all been ripped off by companies who want to take our money by simple and some times uselees upgrades or "improovements". We stood up for that and weve made phones live longer ans give us the best experience. Why should we risk this for fame. And being the "first" to do this or that!
Why would we become exclusive to what we have and dont eant to share and become improoved.
Ive been in over 5 forums were ive moved from a tester to mod makind and a Moderator at some. Ive never encounter this issue as we were all in that state of sharing and improoving. We fought only the big companies whom at times were cought by our demands like Lg on the incite... were we fought our way into inprooving the use od the gsensor.
But why would I want to take down someone who is working to improove what I did. This example happened to me with sense3.5 which till this day we dont have a proper md10 tool. Ive search the web and developed a dusk skin for a fancy widgets apk. I asked Gadget and he gladly said yes to my request. That was used and ported all over the forums like the amase and Rezound for sense 3.6. And Ive never went and took anyone out for posting what was originaly my work.
Why should anyone do it?
It only takes real development to a set back......
Food for thought!!!!:thumbup:
just wanted to speak my mind, not wanting to offend nobody...
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And Ive never went and took anyone out for posting what was originaly my work.
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I think if you've put hours of work in to a particular project, then see it posted elsewhere with someone else taking the credit then you've got every right to be annoyed.
yes, and I did but when I saw what they did with my original version and idea was exceptional. Anf I ended up praising their work. At the end of the day is the attitud we have that matters. I know im not even close to been the smartest and talented so seen my idea go even further is a + for me
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Your valid bug reports are rejected because you haven't provided logcat which is exactly useless.
Your valid regression bug reports are rejected because you ... posted them too late and the last working build is too ... far off in the past.
Developers are keen not to assist you but to make you feel disgusted because after you provide as much information as possible, your input is completely rejected.
It's the first and last time in my life I've bought an Android device thinking LineageOS would be a nice alternative to the official ROM. No more.
I do understand this project is run by volunteers in their spare time, but I've participated in at least ten other non profit Open Source projects and I've never been treated this way.
Bug reports: 436, 509, 510 and 511.
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Your valid bug reports are rejected because you haven't provided logcat which is exactly useless.
Your valid regression bug reports are rejected because you ... posted them too late and the last working build is too ... far off in the past.
Developers are keen not to assist you but to make you feel disgusted because after you provide as much information as possible, your input is completely rejected.
It's the first and last time in my life I've bought an Android device thinking LineageOS would be a nice alternative to the official ROM. No more.
I do understand this project is run by volunteers in their spare time, but I've participated in at least ten other non profit Open Source projects and I've never been treated this way.
Bug reports: 436, 509, 510 and 511.
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same, dude, same, have just moved back to stock ROM, it's much better. A great weight off my mind.
All my proper bug reports with logcat have been deleted and I have been banned from the LOS IRC channel.
Never ever buy a phone thinking that LOS will be a viable alternative to your official ROM. It won't.
Not with such an extremely hostile development team.
I simply have no words.
The last batch of bug reports: 770, 771, 776, 790 and 795 - all valid, all rejected, all deleted.
Another proof, psychoi3oy.
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Another proof, psychoi3oy.
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Some of your rapports would have been accepted if placed under BUGBASH with the minimum logs attached. REGRESSION is only if you know the exact last known working build.
BUGBASH is only open during weekends though. Why you only are allowed to report on the weekends is a other question.... ?
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You haven't taken time to actually review my rejected bug reports and now you're blaming me what what I didn't, nice. The screenshot above just underlines how LOS devs work.
Sorry, bug reports 770, 771, 776, 790 and 795 were all filed under appropriate categories with logcat attached. Now that my user account has been deleted for the second time I have no desire to have anything common with this crazy *****es project ever again.
Clearly I looked in the wrong places somehow... I mistakenly took the screenshot as your rapports. Just did a quick glance at them. I commented on those rapports. Sorry for that. Rejecting REGRESSION rapports that should have been in BUGBASH is a common problem. Takes away time from the real issues.
X2 is your rapports? The numbers can exist both in BUGBASH and REGRESSION. BUGBASH-795 seems still open. The others lacked a log in the beginning.
I've seen bugs where users even found a walk-around and asked them to close the bug rapport. They refused as they didn't accept anything than a real solution... So closing and rejecting is not all they do.
However JIRA is not perfect. Sometimes a discussion in the devices own Lineage thread in the forum is better fitted and can get you closer to the device maintainer quicker. I normally write a rapport at JIRA but not without mentioning it in the Lineage thread of my device. Other users may replicate the bug and perhaps are able to add more important info about the problem at JIRA or in the thread.
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I know the feeling. I go to the reddit asking if they can make a build for LG K7. My post gets removed, but it's fair because requests aren't allowed on the main reddit.
Then I ask if they have a request subreddit where I can ask them to make the build. A team member literally said in response, "No. Go away. If you want something, build it. End of discussion."
How dare you. You're the developers, not me. You are the ones who made LineageOS, therefore building the ROMs is your responsibility and yours alone. I'll stick with my Stock ROM, thank you.
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I know the feeling. I go to the reddit asking if they can make a build for LG K7. My post gets removed, but it's fair because requests aren't allowed on the main reddit.
Then I ask if they have a request subreddit where I can ask them to make the build. A team member literally said in response, "No. Go away. If you want something, build it. End of discussion."
How dare you. You're the developers, not me. You are the ones who made LineageOS, therefore building the ROMs is your responsibility and yours alone. I'll stick with my Stock ROM, thank you.
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You can't just ask someone and say "Hey. Build me a ROM" and then have tantrums if they didn't do it. Building ROMs for other device is not their responsibility. They are not paid.
I wouldn't call that a tantrum so much as I would call it anger at how I was responded to that day. Either way, they're developers. If they don't build the ROMs, the only other people who could are the experts who have experience in building and compiling ROMs.
I was simply angry at how rude that member was to me. They could have simply responded with, "We do not take requests. Our ROM is open source for anyone to modify and create new ROMs with." Anything other than that rude response.
Anyway, I understand I was wrong, but my main issue is that other than the one person who's still working on FenomenalMOD, there's literally no custom ROM for the LG K7 after years of release, and I was hoping there was at least a LineageOs ROM for it, which of course, there wasn't. And even if they aren't paid for it, they still did their work in creating the official ROM, so what's stopping them from making a ROM for each model of phone outside of life issues and such?
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I wouldn't call that a tantrum so much as I would call it anger at how I was responded to that day. Either way, they're developers. If they don't build the ROMs, the only other people who could are the experts who have experience in building and compiling ROMs.
I was simply angry at how rude that member was to me. They could have simply responded with, "We do not take requests. Our ROM is open source for anyone to modify and create new ROMs with." Anything other than that rude response.
Anyway, I understand I was wrong, but my main issue is that other than the one person who's still working on FenomenalMOD, there's literally no custom ROM for the LG K7 after years of release, and I was hoping there was at least a LineageOs ROM for it, which of course, there wasn't. And even if they aren't paid for it, they still did their work in creating the official ROM, so what's stopping them from making a ROM for each model of phone outside of life issues and such?
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Guess what? They are developers of Lineage by choice and you can be too, so if you want Lineage for your phone, go build it yourself. If there was already a developer out there who wanted it for that phone, they would have already done it, but there isn't so why can't you step up to the plate and do it?
Anyone that gets mad about a rude or sarcastic response about doing something for them like that is a joke.
Excuse me?
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Guess what? They are developers of Lineage by choice and you can be too, so if you want Lineage for your phone, go build it yourself. If there was already a developer out there who wanted it for that phone, they would have already done it, but there isn't so why can't you step up to the plate and do it?
Anyone that gets mad about a rude or sarcastic response about doing something for them like that is a joke.
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So I'm a joke? For one thing, I don't have any expertise in building ROMs, so no, I can't do it. I was honestly curious. But to sit right up there and call me a joke for being angry at getting a rude response...What? Who wouldn't get upset if they were treated rudely? I expect courtesy from both them and you, since you obviously didn't see that I admitted I was wrong. I came to this forum because I felt I was wronged. I was wrong, and I more or less ended my case with the other responder. You, on the other hand, just had to go and say that I'm a joke for getting heated like that...
You know what? I'll just wait. Sooner or later, FenomenalMOD will be completed, and the person who posted about it said he's looking into making a LineageOS build, so as long as I wait it out, I, along with many other LG K7 users who have wanted Lineage for so long will get what we wanted. End of this discussion. Please enjoy your weekends.
Sorry for wasting space here, everyone. I was just wondering if the 3a XL has TWRP yet. I just ordered one and the first thing I do on a new device is install TWRP and root.
Thanks
You can root, but no TWRP yet. The 3 and 3 XL took just about a month. Shouldn't be too long now.
Troy owned a 3XL making it a sure thing for sooner rather than later. Someone with the knowledge could have made it within a fairly short time period since the work is already partially done over in flagship land:; An example would be the OP7, it already has TWRP, a half dozen ROMs, a couple kernals. I'm not saying it isn't coming to this device, it probably is given time. You do have to have someone working on it though or it never happens. Flar2 for instance has a 3aXL and thanks to him we have his kernal. This is how it works, the benefits of these various ROMs, TWRP, kernals, come from a fairly small pool of developers and if one or more of them does not pick up the gauntlet you've got handy tips on these pages but not much else.
Lets us hope that a few of them have seen the value in these devices...
Pixel 3a and XL will have TWRP.
Even the $100 Android phones have TWRP.
It is a matter of when, my guess would be within the next two weeks from now.
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I keep trying to make time to sit down and do an unofficial TWRP, but Everytime I do, something comes up. It's kinda killing me ...
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Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.
Out of curiosity, because I come from a Samsung: what are the main differences between Pixel's stock firmware and LOS?
As far as I know LOS have a kind of dark mode already enabled (coming to stock with Q) and some privacy option added?
Is there anything more than this?
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Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.
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Out of curiosity, what makes you say it seems like we'll get LOS for the 3a(XL)? It would be a 100% buy for me if that were the case, just wasn't sure if a notable dev has picked one up and mentioned planning to do so or something and I've missed it, thanks!
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Out of curiosity, what makes you say it seems like we'll get LOS for the 3a(XL)? It would be a 100% buy for me if that were the case, just wasn't sure if a notable dev has picked one up and mentioned planning to do so or something and I've missed it, thanks!
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Just take a look at their GitHub
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_google_bonito
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_google_bonito
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Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.
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Just take a look at their GitHub
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_google_bonito
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_google_bonito
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Thanks! Didn't even think to check that, was thinking they seemed to be good devices for LOS but hadn't heard anything yet so now I'm hopeful.
I'm really happy when the custom roms come out
What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.
I certainly hope your wrong but, I am afraid as you are that this device,,,,albeit a great one,,,,isnt getting the attention by devs. I know it is still too soon to tell and all that. But, if you go off past popular devices, and how fast development sprang up since it was released, this one seems lagging. Lets hope the future is bright for this device and dev support.
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What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.
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What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.
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I bought the not xl version- I get the same vibe you're picking up. I think it's selling, but probably not to many enthusiasts as other phones. Maybe people are buying it because they actually went to use it as a phone? I think after the nexus line crashed, I think people have looked elsewhere for development phones. I don't have a one plus phone, but they seem to release kernels and factory images, which helps development. I'm sure google will do the same.
In other news, I've built aosp and los for sargo. Full disclosure- I haven't flashed anything yet, I haven't even opened the box; so I can't say how well the ROMs run. I'm sure bonito will build just fine too. aosp just needed the drivers/binaries from the website. For los, I used the extract files script and the stock images. The point is that we seen to have ROM support already, but maybe just low interest from the modding community.
Could it be the forums aren't hopping specifically *because* there's so little dev at this point?
I'd expect it to be light when TWRP isn't even around yet. I would expect it to pick up quite a bit once TWRP drops, though.
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Could it be the forums aren't hopping specifically *because* there's so little dev at this point?
I'd expect it to be light when TWRP isn't even around yet. I would expect it to pick up quite a bit once TWRP drops, though.
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I do wish the forums were consolidated for the two devices. Then it would seem busier . I think there would be a bit of synergy since the two devices share so much. Sorry for the OT. I'll dust off my twrp repos and see if I can cook something up.
I was surprised they didn't combine them and just have two different development sub-sections, I've been on other devices where they did that and it seemed to work well. As to the lack of TWRP or other development I don't really think that's it although it's certainly a contributor. IMO you would have many more people asking general questions as you can see everywhere else, there are a lot of people who come to XDA but don't root. It really appears the either the phone isn't in too many hands or those hands belong to those pesky non phone people.
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I'm really happy when the custom roms come out
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Dirty Unicorns has an RC out for bonito (3a XL) dated 23 May - you can grab it now. (According to IDM, it is 1.197 GB large.)
Nothing new on the TWRP front for bonito - official or otherwise.
Many of the phones out there seem to have come from a T-Mobile trade-in offer that made the devices nearly free after credits. Problem is that for most of these devices, they'll be carrier locked and in turn bootloader locked for a while. Users have resigned themselves to unrooted optimizations until these locks are gone. Hopefully development will mirror all four of the 3rd gen devices as they pretty similar.
Sargo's top of my list right now for a phone upgrade (my S4 got me thru so many years), but without TWRP and LOS I just can't bring myself to buy it.
Never done any work on android before (besides flashing of course), but I'll throw my hat in the ring and try to get a TWRP build together this weekend.
Mind if I DM ya @gee one when I inevitably get stuck somewhere?
It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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The android phone market is a trap that many people fall into. Yesterday, we were buying smarthphones to make them last, and Xda was there to give these phones a second life. But today, people are buying phones because they MUST buy. It's become a fashion accessory, and this consumption pattern has affected the look of the forum. The world of new technologies no longer takes the time to live, unfortunately ...
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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I would like to point out something you may have missed, i could be mistaken. However, this is (my reply) is truly valid.
I have modded smart phones and devices, i usually follow tutorials, Even if i may seem invisible. With that said, yes the infrastructure of technology is to move forward and "keep up'. I believe you missed what xda-developers means.
You don't need to keep up with the trends, afterall it's a decision only you can make.
Maybe you would benefit from buying old devices, and creating your own design. Customised. Just like an artist paints a pucture, inspired by the souroudning.
Please understand that I'm just a menber as you, but using an alternative thought process of what's going on here. I am unbiased, so i basically sit on the fence with everything. But c'mon. I ported andoid 11 on an S2. Unstable, but thats why this place exists. You have provided valuable feedback. I agree on one side, but would never bite the hanf that feeds me. so to speak..
I believe in development and not destruction.
In your case, honestly. if you're happy with it, stick with it.
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It seems nowadays that these forums have become a total waste to anyone if you dont have the latest devices or what help with rooting them. Other than that there is no interest in sharing or helpinp others anymore. I have posts that were posted in various forums,some months ago already and have had absolutely no feedback on them.
What is the point of even posting anything anymore,if nobody out there is bothered to help with advice,sharing files,apk's,mods etc anymore. I am really disappointed that the community in general seems to have just given up on anything other than the latest and greatest.
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Thank you for your feedback. We are actively working on ways to promote more helping and sharing of content on XDA. If you have any ideas, would love to hear about them!
The issue I have seen over the years is that many people come on XDA looking for it to be a "help site". Many want something for free. But, in order to get, you should give. XDA is about sharing of mobile device knowledge.
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Thank you for your feedback. We are actively working on ways to promote more helping and sharing of content on XDA. If you have any ideas, would love to hear about them!
The issue I have seen over the years is that many people come on XDA looking for it to be a "help site". Many want something for free. But, in order to get, you should give. XDA is about sharing of mobile device knowledge.
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Help whores... some too lazy or inept to do Google searches and take the time to sort it out.
After which they vanish*.
Problem with that is to use these devices effectively you must immerse yourself in them to some degree.
This site provides an effective platform to aid that learning curve whatever your end goal is.
Learning from others mistakes is always better than making them yourself...
Both Google and the manufacturers push OS's and hardware platforms in a self serving way which is many times in direct conflict with the end user's best interests. This site helps to provide workarounds for the many issues this creates.
Something for everyone is not a bad thing...
*That's better than the spammers hawking the voodoo wuv
Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Part the problem is the thread shows up once in the sea of other threads and quickly gets sunk to the bottom.
It's a busy site. Not sure what can be done expect bumping the thread every few days or whatever.
Separating the rooting, moding, new app threads from general questions might help... or just create more confusion. Probably do more harm than good.
(Edit) Personally I enjoy the cross exposure to other devices and platforms as it increases my knowledge/awareness base.
It's fascinating even if I don't always understand all of it.
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Yes,i agree with your statement. But of late,the help you speak of or learninm from others does not happen anymore. In my specific caseg have posted to various manufacturer forums asking for said help and advice and have got not one reply on any of those forums and topics in question.
Hence my saying that it seems to have become a place where if you dont have the newest available handsets etc,you wont get answers to your questions etc anymore because all the top developers are trying to keep up with the latest Android software releases and the latest camera etc technologies to take the collective community forward,but sadly it is to the detriment of the majority who cannot for whatever reason move forward with them and are stuck using older devices and then as a result dont get any feedback anymore on their questions etc.
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Lot's of stuff for older devices has been covered. i.e. developers move on to latest devices, they develop, research, post etc. before moving on and at some point that device becomes an "older" device of which info/data already exists..
either way, cant expect everything to be covered as it's impossible. I was at that point once upon a time.. once i realized cant always rely on an experienced dev to be there to answer all my questions is when its great to research and learn on your own.. eventually stuff will become easy and you might have ppl asking u for help.. thats a positive thing about xda and the internet, theres endless knowledge out there if you are patient and willing to learn.
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The android phone market is a trap that many people fall into. Yesterday, we were buying smarthphones to make them last, and Xda was there to give these phones a second life. But today, people are buying phones because they MUST buy. It's become a fashion accessory, and this consumption pattern has affected the look of the forum. The world of new technologies no longer takes the time to live, unfortunately ...
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That, but also the fact that the technology has slowed down quite a bit. It was only a few years ago where most phones would begin to feel slightly sluggish on stock OS after a year of updates...Now? A relative of mine bought a mid range Motorola phone from 2019 and it's fast as can be, game wise it's decent too. The incentive to eek out more "oomph" isn't as high as it used to be - imo.
Thinking about grabbing a 6 Pro and know that it's probably skewed towards mostly running stock here but wondering if any news from anyone about some custom roms coming down the pipe. Cheers!
Patience patience ...
XDA Development always shows up in their kitchens....
There are three pages of posts in this section that mention ROMs.
There are four threads with "custom" in the thread title.
Thanks for the replies guys. I definitely want to be patient but the problem is that for my carrier I have a discount to buy phone outright but the price will not be any different the longer I wait so sooner would be better. Unfortunately it also means I will be locked to it so just wanted to double-check I haven't missed any news. I had a Pixel 2 XL and it didn't have as many roms as some devices but did eventually get a decent amount.