State of the phone - N4 v N3 - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've had a warrant exchange offer of my Note 3 to go to a Note 4 and would like to know what's available. My Note 3 of course is bl unlocked, rooted, and running Darklord ROM which means MM6.0.1 with the N5/S7 software. It's there a similar rom for the N4? (Darklord doesn't have nfc so I'd love to have that back plus the fingerprint scanner and such) is there still development on the N4 at all? They actually offered me the N5 but I refuse to have a phone without a microSD slot and root. So far the only rom I've seen for the N4 is jasmine. It's that the dominate rom?
I've been out of the loop on devices for a while and only got back into it since the bl crack. Are there any issues or reasons why I shouldn't like the N4 more?

Coming a series of weak phones like thunderbolt and RAZR maxx. This is by far the weakest when it comes to dev. But its the best phone I ever had.
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If looks like there's a few options on the generic N4 forum which should work with the unlocked bl. Dr. Kenan looks good for example

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[Q] What to know before getting a Note 2

Hi,
I'm looking to pick-up a Bell Note 2 in the next few days(goodbye Atrix & Gingerbread!), and just wanted some tips from experienced owners.
(ie best cases, kind of official/unofficial support, known hardware defects to look out for, regrets/sastfactions).
Thanks
Note 3 in 3 weeks. Just chill. Thats my recommendation.
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Cryingmoose said:
Hi,
I'm looking to pick-up a Bell Note 2 in the next few days(goodbye Atrix & Gingerbread!), and just wanted some tips from experienced owners.
(ie best cases, kind of official/unofficial support, known hardware defects to look out for, regrets/sastfactions).
Thanks
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You can grab a GN2 or a Note 3! But keep in mind that if you the Rom flashing type then you'll probably want to GN2. Because development is excellent for this device.. I must say. Lots of great devs working on the beast!:thumbup:
But for the NOTE3 development might now start right away until the bootloader gets unlocked. Kinda like on the S4 release...
Just my 2¢®
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Note 3 in 3 weeks. Just chill. Thats my recommendation.
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That doesn't mean the bootloader is going to unlocked! So meaning development will be moving slow on that device! Because Sammy was talking about locking down they're bootloader's..
And personally it's not that big of an upgrade from the GN2 imho!!!!:what:
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jindelic said:
Note 3 in 3 weeks. Just chill. Thats my recommendation.
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It's a quirk of my plan.
Only partially subsided phone, so the Note 2(or S3) are only $75 whereas this years models(HTC One/S4) are going to be over $300.
Any further advice? Case recommendations?
Well, I got my N2 about 8 months ago and couldn't be happier with the device itself or the custom community.
What I do think could be better is the selection of cases and accessories. In planning on getting a seido surface case and holster soon, it's the best way to keep the rig protected and easy to reach at the same time.
But, the note 3 is on the way, and yes, it's most likely going to be half the retail price on contract. That's the big question, get the note 2 while it's cheap or wait and get the note 3 at launch or shortly after.
Either way I think the note 2 is a great device and you really can't beat the Dev community that comes with it. The note 3 has new security and it's still to be seen if it'll be easy to crack it. And beyond a few hardware tweaks, it's not that big of a deal when you can get the note 2 for around a third the price on contract.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Well, I got my N2 about 8 months ago and couldn't be happier with the device itself or the custom community.
What I do think could be better is the selection of cases and accessories. In planning on getting a seido surface case and holster soon, it's the best way to keep the rig protected and easy to reach at the same time.
But, the note 3 is on the way, and yes, it's most likely going to be half the retail price on contract. That's the big question, get the note 2 while it's cheap or wait and get the note 3 at launch or shortly after.
Either way I think the note 2 is a great device and you really can't beat the Dev community that comes with it. The note 3 has new security and it's still to be seen if it'll be easy to crack it. And beyond a few hardware tweaks, it's not that big of a deal when you can get the note 2 for around a third the price on contract.
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This^^^^^^^^^ sums it up very well!
If your a hacker, flasher, techie guy, then go for the GN2. Big development section!!:thumbup:
If you're into latest new technology then grab the GN3...
Just my 2¢®
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Got my GN2 from Bell back in January. Couldn't be happier with it. Here are some things that come to mind:
Some of the features like Multi-window and S-Pen functionality are only available on Samsung-based (Touchwiz) ROM's. Some people don't care for the pen and flash AOSP ROM's like CM10.1, which have been in development for a while now and work quite well. Personally I find myself using the S-Pen and multiwindow a lot, so I stick with Touchwiz ROMs (you can always switch to Nova or another Launcher if you don't like the cartoonish look of Touchwiz).
If you'd like to stick to a Samsung based ROM, check out Miscom's N7105 Ultimate ROM in the Android Development section. He basically takes the Samsung ROM from the international LTE version (which gets updated more frequently) and adds in useful bits like extending the Multiwindow functionality to any app (its restricted to a few Google and Samsung apps on the stock ROM). Gives you a stock feel while being more optimized and feature packed.
I don't know if its been patched, but the LTE GS3 and GN2 models had a simple way to sim-unlock through some dialer-code settings. Multiple claims that it worked just like that. If its still around, it might be worth a shot.
By default, a double-tap of the home button is configured to launch S-Voice. Not only does S-Voice suck, but it also introduces a delay when you tap the home button once to go back to the homescreen. You can disable the double-tap option from S-Voice settings to get rid of the delay.
I'm not aware of any specific hardware defects. Some stock ROMs had glitchy apps but I've been using the modified stock ROM pretty much from the start.
I personally don't use a case, so I can't help you there.
If you plan on using a car charger, make sure you get a quality, high-output one. The Note 2 has a big battery and charging can be very slow on the usual flea-market chargers. I use a Motorola one that I got from Amazon. Its not as fast as the 2A wall-charger that the phone comes with, but its still decent. It can actually charge up the phone even while its being used for navigation/phonecalls etc. Most car chargers can only maintain the current charge level when in use.
If you need more storage, a 64GB microSD card is a good option and works without hassles. Bought one last year for ~$50 on Boxing Day. I listen to a lot of Lossless music (25+ MB per file) so the extra storage helps.
If you feel the need for it, the Smart Dock also works as advertised. HDMI output + three USB ports. I can confirm it detects keyboards, mice, USB flash drives and external hard drives just fine. Can easily playback 1080p video from external drives over HDMI.
Thats all I can think of at the moment You can't go wrong with the GN2. I am holding off on the Note 3 upgrade and the only thing I may miss is the higher resolution screen. In terms of performance and everyday use, I'm happy with my GN2.

Gnex upgrade.

Hi there.
As my good old gnex yesterday, got a big fall, it felt down from 2nd floor outside the window, and on the asphalt.
I need a new phone as fast as possible.
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i can`t wait. I need phone for work.
The desired phones are - Galaxy s4, nexus 4, or maybe note 3.
Looked at Htc One, but i need a little bit bigger screen than 4,7inch.
Any suggestions?
between S4 and N4.
What about getting another cheap/used GN, then order the N5.
I would order a cheap phone to get you by, then order the N5 when it comes out.
Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
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Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
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I think, i`ll go for it. i`ve newer tried touchwiz, ;D
And, i hope, that the performance improvement will be noticable.
And, i can any time make it a Google edition . :good:
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i don`t care. And in my country it will be maybe only next year. As the N4 showed in stores only in may.
I would probably go for note3 only if i could afford it. I herd good things about battery life on note 2 so i assumed note3s would be par with note2.
another consideration would be s4 (only cuz my friend have 1 and its blazing fast outta box) or G2 ( i herd good things about this 1)
since we all come from nexus, if you don't miss dev supports, i know what we miss- battery life, so i would go for note3, g2 or s4 if NOT going for
nexus 5
Get a barebones phone for now and grab an N5 when it's out, that's goin to be in a few days and you will have one of the beastly device !
I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
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I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
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I should go with the nexus 4 and then buy a nexus 5 when it's cheap or wait for the nexus 6
The G2 is a bigger version of the N5.
It has a bigger screen, better camera, bigger battery, etc.
I'd love a G2, except I can't bring myself buying an LG phone after the G2x I had.
I'm really torn between the G2 and the Note3 or S4.
The G2 is the best phone out there ATM with S800 processor, 1080P screen, 2 or 3gb of Ram, 16mp camera with hardware anti-stabilizing. They have some really slick looking stock cases. The back buttons are kind of weird until you think about using it with a flap case, no longer do you have to search the side of the phone for the buttons. Being on the back would make it sweet for controlling volume when listening to speaker calls or pandora.
It is also getting released on all major carriers in the US and worldwide, all with the same specs. So I suspect that development will be pretty good on it. especially that the N5 will be it's little brother, roms should be able to be ported relatively easily.
The Verizon version also has Qi Charging AND is UNLOCKED for GSM radios. So you can pop in a AT&T/Tmobile/StraightTalk/SimpleMobile and go.
Buy the GS4 and call it a day. Especially if you have the money and can't wait. Otherwise, get a used Nexus 4 or some other phone and hold out.

[Q] Note 2 still worth getting? (htc one owner)

Hey guys....
So today all the focus is on the note 3 - understandably so, really nice improvement over the note 2.
That said, I'm thinking about picking up a note 2 becuase the value they're going for on the used market seems REALLY good. I've currently been using an htc one since it came out and its really a nice device. I had it rooted running the play store pure google experience but that jacked my radio (lte/hspa connection) so I'm back to stock on 4.3. 2 months ago I dropped it while coming out of my car and the screen is cracked in the corner (luckily for me, it does not infringe onto the actual viewable area). I feel like I can sell my one and maybe pay $50-$75 and get a note 2 in excellent shape.
Part of me hates the small crack on the one I have, and I guess I just want to switch things up. Plus I've wanted to try the note 2 forever (I have a note 8 so I really enjoy the spen even though I don't use it too much).
The note 2 still seems to be a snappy device in today's world -and it has great battery life, very good camera still, etc etc.
Think its worth going for the note 2? Alternatively I'd get the nexus 5
THanks! :good:
If you like a bigger screen and find yourself using the.spen then absolutely. Never used the htc one my assumption is that it's a better phone since it's a year newer than the n2. Still the N2 is a beast. I love the spen
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Probably should discuss here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192602
or use search to see what other have already said, thanks

[Q] Should I get it?

Currently have the S3 on Verizon. Upgrading to the Note 4 seems nice. Things I will miss include the unlocked bootloader that I highly doubt the Note 4 will ever get, and I doubt it will get safestrap either. My other concern is the current method of rooting the Note 4 (Yes, there is already a way. Unfortunately, it will trip knox and void warranty, where as on the S3 you could use Odin to flash stock image and fully reset it. Will there be evolved root exploits? Input needed, thank you.
LegoFarmer said:
Currently have the S3 on Verizon. Upgrading to the Note 4 seems nice. Things I will miss include the unlocked bootloader that I highly doubt the Note 4 will ever get, and I doubt it will get safestrap either. My other concern is the current method of rooting the Note 4 (Yes, there is already a way. Unfortunately, it will trip knox and void warranty, where as on the S3 you could use Odin to flash stock image and fully reset it. Will there be evolved root exploits? Input needed, thank you.
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My opinion, Note 4 is the best to date device. It's so fast that you probably can live without custom rom for awhile. By then, we should have root and able to enjoy more customization. To tell the truth, after a few years from now, I think custom rom will be obsolete or limited due to unbreakable locked bootloader.... unless some magical thing happened and they decided not to lock boot loader anymore.
I understand the desire for custom roms and/root but custom Roms will no doubt impact one of the main reasons to have a note, the s pen. I say get it if you are okay having sick phone, but ultimately they will have at least a safe root for it. They did for Note 3.
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Yeah. I am getting this phone because of the features. I was impressed with the S5 but couldn't go without the note 3 screen size. Now I get the best of both worlds. Between the water proof and an otterbox that makes the phone a little more ruggid for my line of work. I will miss my Xposed modules until there is root!
wait man.note4 has just arrived.it takes time to do other method.wait till some days.will be there someone who migth be working on it
Droid Turbo seems promising. It's all on you. I want the Note 4. I've owned the Note 3 twice, and got rid of it cuz of how sluggish it was. (Bit of a perfectionist) The demo Note 4 seems responsive enough for me and Touchwiz looks a bit better this time around.
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mchief298 said:
Droid Turbo seems promising. It's all on you. I want the Note 4. I've owned the Note 3 twice, and got rid of it cuz of how sluggish it was. (Bit of a perfectionist) The demo Note 4 seems responsive enough for me and Touchwiz looks a bit better this time around.
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I read that the turbo won't have expandable storage, which is so close to a deal-breaker for me

Do you like your Note 4?

So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
Honestly I have Note 4 from AT&T, it's amazing... way better than LG G3... G3 has a few serious issues people say the battery life is horrible, also they phone overheats, it will auto dim your screen when this happens, if you try to turn it up a message comes out an say your phone is to hot... also you can't use no roms on at&t note 4, SM-N910A model and SM-N910V (Verizon) model both r not able to b rooted yet, but I personally think after 5.0 gets released an couple months after we will have a root but right now no... people will alway find ways just takes time an no point when they kno a software update is due... personally I bought a Note 4 but if I was gunna buy any other phone would have been iPhone 6 or 6+ or Nexus 6
my wife has the G3 and I have the Note 4. I'm obviously biased but I prefer the N4 over the G3. Just personal preference since both devices are great. I do like the 'knock to unlock' feature on the G3 and the speakers seem to be louder but I dont regret getting the N4.
It all comes down to your preference.
hyelton said:
So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
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tl;dr = YES!!
My full $.02 is on my site: http://www.stupidputer.com/2015/02/the-nexus-4-finally-dies/
I am really drawn to the camera. It takes great pictures, focuses quickly and has very low shot latency, which is really important. My last phone, the LG G2 also took nice pictures, but was so damn slow in shooting. But I'll probably be the first person to jump to the Galaxy s6 and HTC One M9 when they come out. Android doesn't do a great job with utilizing the bigger screens of phones. With the iPhone 6 plus, you get nice landscape UI shift with a lot of apps.
In all honesty, if I had it to do over again, I would probably get the iphone 6. The Note is a little laggy and slugguish and the allure of the spen wore off pretty quickly.

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