Hello everyone im new to this forum and i got a problem i think u guys can help me with.. . First of all i have to tell that i know nothing about rooting. Recently i bought an used HTC one m8 from a friend and had kitkat on the device. so i tried to check for updates. but i saw the option is missing. so after few minutes i get to know that this device is rooted, when i see the information about the phone. there is an app called super su and when i open it it says "there is no super su binary installed and super su cannot install it.....( ithink you guys know the rest) so i tried two days googling the problem and did everythin i can. but no results. root checking apps say that this device is not rooted but it is.. (some kind of half rooted i think ) so can anyone please be so kind to help me.....?. (sorry for my bad english if it is )
Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?
redpoint73 said:
Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?
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i need to update my device to Marshmallow. and if possible i need to unroot the phone back to stock. thanx
redpoint73 said:
Its not clear what you want to do, update or root, or both (update then root)?
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please help me....
Instruction to return to stock to update are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
To determine what version number to restore, what does it say for OS number on the bootloader screen?
4.16.401.13
Tharinduroshan said:
4.16.401.13
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Then that is the stock TWRP backup and stock recovery you want to restore, from the thread I posted. After you restore to stock, it should OTA update to Marshmallow.
redpoint73 said:
Then that is the stock TWRP backup and stock recovery you want to restore, from the thread I posted. After you restore to stock, it should OTA update to Marshmallow.
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Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode
Tharinduroshan said:
Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode
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In s-on devices, it is not giving access to stock recovery directly. The first coming exclamation mark is normal. In that occasion if you want to access recovery; while pressing power button, press volume up. However you don't need to go to recovery.
1) If your bootloader is locked, unlock it. http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
2) flash twrp (TWRP 2.8.7.0)
3) restore backup (4.16.401.13)
4) flash stock recovery (4.16.401.13)
5) check updates
(the thread given by redpoint73 includes information A-Z to stock)
thank you both redpoint73 and umesh. Really appreciate the help. Im gonna try this and return to you if i have any problem
Tharinduroshan said:
Does this process involve turning on the phone in recovery mode. Because I can't do that. my mobile shows a red triangle and exclamation mark when I try to start in recovery mode
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That is the stock (official HTC) recovery; from there you can press power+vol up to show the stock recovery menu options. But as a previous reply mentioned, stock recovery isn't going to help you (restore stock TWRP backup, etc.). For that, you need to unlock the bootloader (if not already) and install TWRP custom recovery.
The bootloader screen, near the top, will indicate whether the bootloader is LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED. If LOCKED or RELOCKED, unlock it as mentioned in Post #9 above.
My guess is that the previous owner restored stock recovery in a botched attempt to return the phone to stock. By "botched" I mean they didn't properly restore the stock ROM to remove root. But following the guide I linked previously will do that properly.
redpoint73 said:
That is the stock (official HTC) recovery; from there you can press power+vol up to show the stock recovery menu options. But as a previous reply mentioned, stock recovery isn't going to help you (restore stock TWRP backup, etc.). For that, you need to unlock the bootloader (if not already) and install TWRP custom recovery.
The bootloader screen, near the top, will indicate whether the bootloader is LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED. If LOCKED or RELOCKED, unlock it as mentioned in Post #9 above.
My guess is that the previous owner restored stock recovery in a botched attempt to return the phone to stock. By "botched" I mean they didn't properly restore the stock ROM to remove root. But following the guide I linked previously will do that properly.
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In bootloader it shows UNLOCKED
Tharinduroshan said:
In bootloader it shows UNLOCKED
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That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.
redpoint73 said:
That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.
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yeah i think i got it now. ill try it. thank you very much for your help..
redpoint73 said:
That's good, in your case.
Just install TWRP, restore the previously indicated stock TWRP backup, install corresponding stock recovery, and update OTA.
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I did it successfully i think. But after that now i cant adjust my screen brightness and developer options are not usable either both of them become grey i cannot use them
In addition i cant see my network details in about. It is also become grey
Tharinduroshan said:
I did it successfully i think. But after that now i cant adjust my screen brightness and developer options are not usable either both of them become grey i cannot use them
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Did the wipe the partitions indicated in the guide? If so, I can't see what can be causing the issue. Proper stock ROM for your firmware, with proper wipes, I haven't seen these issues.
redpoint73 said:
Did the wipe the partitions indicated in the guide? If so, I can't see what can be causing the issue. Proper stock ROM for your firmware, with proper wipes, I haven't seen these issues.
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i think my phone is a demo version. there is an app called demo and it is causing all the trouble and i cant uninstall it. i tried doing a factory reset with recovery. but not helped. any sugesstions?
Tharinduroshan said:
i think my phone is a demo version. there is an app called demo and it is causing all the trouble and i cant uninstall it. i tried doing a factory reset with recovery. but not helped. any sugesstions?
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The version we told you to restore is not for a demo version. I don't think you restored as you were advised, at least not properly.
Also, factory reset only wipes user data, it doesn't affect anything with the ROM; and you should not be mistaken in thinking it would.
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The version we told you to restore is not for a demo version. I don't think you restored as you were advised, at least not properly.
Also, factory reset only wipes user data, it doesn't affect anything with the ROM; and you should not be mistaken in thinking it would.
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No i did all the things that post said and i downloaded the version 4.16.401.13 its the version for my phone :crying:
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Every time I click update on my developer mode M8, it restarts automatically in the TWRP recovery mode. I have no choice but to reboot in recovery mode and the phone loads again asking me to update. Has anyone experience this? I am still on the stock ROM withe XPosed installer if that matters. Any suggestions will be appreciated, thank you!
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Every time I click update on my developer mode M8, it restarts automatically in the TWRP recovery mode. I have no choice but to reboot in recovery mode and the phone loads again asking me to update. Has anyone experience this? I am still on the stock ROM withe XPosed installer if that matters. Any suggestions will be appreciated, thank you!
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Do you have a TWRP backup? You could restore it in TWRP if so.
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Do you have a TWRP backup? You could restore it in TWRP if so.
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I have a some of backups I created manually a couple of days ago but how would a restore of those backups update the system to 1.54.15409? Don't the phone still has to download the system update again?
You are asking for trouble trying to update on rooted, custom recovery and xposed framework installed..
Soff, Revert to stock, flash stock recovery, and then update
sent from my mobile device
SaHiLzZ said:
You are asking for trouble trying to update on rooted, custom recovery and xposed framework installed..
Soff, Revert to stock, flash stock recovery, and then update
sent from my mobile device
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Oh I see. In that case I'll just get one of the custom ROMs from here that will have the new system update. Thank you!
Phone has to be 100% stock, inc. the stock recovery and kernel, to flash an OTA file as it checks to make sure the phone is stock. ANY change to the original system and it'll fail
EddyOS said:
Phone has to be 100% stock, inc. the stock recovery and kernel, to flash an OTA file as it checks to make sure the phone is stock. ANY change to the original system and it'll fail
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How can I get to stock? I can't find it anywhere but people saying to do it. (other than Sprint, but i have unlocked)
BookOfRick said:
How can I get to stock? I can't find it anywhere but people saying to do it. (other than Sprint, but i have unlocked)
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You have to have firmware that matches your hboot, and stock recovery. Doesn't matter if you are unlocked.
hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
I also am curious about this topic
snap213 said:
hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
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1. Download the stock recovery for your device from the recovery thread
2. Flash it through fastboot (as you did TWRP)
3. Apply the OTA
4. Reflash TWRP
5. Re-root the phone
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
snap213 said:
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
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Not stock rom...stock recovery
Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 (under the nandroid backups section)
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
snap213 said:
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
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here is my recovery backup from 1.54.707.7. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2ht9dxns3ggcyk/recovery.img
Can you backup your radio.img for me? I forgot to backup when i convert my phone to GPE.
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Yes, you can! I did it exactly that way - and after OTA update reflashed TWRP and rerouted that way. Its a 4 minute job.
snap213 said:
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Learn to do it yourself, relying on toolkits is a false economy as if anything goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it...
EddyOS said:
Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
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Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
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Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
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The OTA requires a 100% stock running Android build, so if you have removed any system apps it will just fail and reboot to the ROM you're running at the moment (so you should be safe). Basically, if the /system partition on the phone is ANY way different from how it was when you first bought it the OTA will fail
For example, other than S-OFF my phone is exactly how I received it, therefore the new OTA update installed successfully. If I had removed one system app (e.g. Hangouts), it would fail as it's looking for it and if it can't find it it'll just reboot
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
snap213 said:
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
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If you're now on 1.54.401.10, you can manually extract it from the firmware package I uploaded HERE
I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
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I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
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I can see the apps that were removed during unlocking still working if installed as user apps as they're still on the /data partition. If they weren't there at all then it'd probably fail. Surprised that it worked with Xposed installed, but that's also a user app so it could very well work - logically it makes sense.
As a rule of thumb I'd only apply an OTA on a 100% stock system, that way you know it'll all be fine
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Thanks this worked :good:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
bkeaver said:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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You have stock recovery.
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You have stock recovery.
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so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
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I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.
ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....
bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
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Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
ashyx said:
Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"
Hello friends, I just got a new refurbished rogers(canada) HTC M8 GSM phone.Its totally stock at this moment and would like to do sim unlock,s-off and boot loader unlock. But before i would like to get full back up of my stock.Few questions:
1.How can i do full complete backup of my stock phone in case in future i need to revert back?
2. what are the steps to do s-off,sim unlock and bootloader unlock?
Right now phone says:
Android version 4.4.3
HTC sence version 6.0
software number 2.23.631.2
HTC SDK API level 6.25
kernel version
3.4.0--g523xxxxxx
baseband version
1.19.2133xxxxxxxx
build number
2.23.631.xxxxxxxrelease-keys
Thanks in advance...
Go to HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. The process is self-explanatory (just follow the website instructions). There is a writeup on the following guide, if you need help. But honestly, if you can follow instruction, the process is self-explanatory as I mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
Then, to backup the stock ROM and recovery, follow the instructions listed on the following thread under "How do i backup the stock HTC recovery?" : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
This process will boot custom recovery without actually flashing recovery it to the phone, allowing you to backup stock recovery as well as the stock ROM (if you flash custom recovery before doing this, stock recovery is over-written and therefore can't be backed up). Note that your version's stock ROM and recovery may already be uploaded to the above thread by another XDA user.
Then achieve root by your preferred method (flash custom recovery and flash SU/SuperSU, or use weaksauce, towelroot, etc.). Then use sunshine to achieve s-off (firewater s-off will likely not work, as it was patched some time ago): http://theroot.ninja/
Then after s-off, you can unlock SIM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708572
Thanks a lot redpont73 for your directions!!!Will follow your steps and let you know how things went..Thanks
Ok i unlocked my bootloader with htcdev.com and it says unlocked now.
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?please guide me.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.Just trying to learn and don't want to brick my phone with any wrong move.thanks
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
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Yes, that is another method.
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ninja_zx11 said:
Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes, that is another method.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes you are right...I will read more and i want to learn and will try to do it myself.If i will have some confusion, i will ask here.Looks like i need more reading.
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
ninja_zx11 said:
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
redpoint73 said:
The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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thanks BerndM14, i just copied supersu zip to internal storage as you said and installed it by booting into twrp from pc. and its done... thanks..
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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Sounds like a brick in the making.
Make sure that you read and understand what you are about to do before you do it.
A nandroid won't always help you.
If I may make a suggestion, don't go S-Off.
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
ninja_zx11 said:
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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thanks redpoint73 for giving me helping hand!! without your help i wouldn't have done it.....
Hi all, please correct me if I placed this at the wrong thread.
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it?
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so?
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7
Thanks for helping in advance!
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jkidz91 said:
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it? Totally normal, no need to worry.
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so? This is usually due to using an older version of TWRP (known bug). This number is useful for determining your current firmware version (hboot, radio, etc.) but you can also determine that by looking at the hboot number and radio numbers themselves
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7 Yes. Usually, you want the ROM version (1.x, 2.x etc.) to correspond to your current firmware. But its usually been found that a higher number firmware will usually work with older (smaller number) ROMs
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Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
jkidz91 said:
Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
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What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
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What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
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Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
jkidz91 said:
Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
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Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
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Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
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Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
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Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
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Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
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as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
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So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
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Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
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If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
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If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
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I need the Titanium backup to recover my apps and data ><
Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
About the stock recovery, I am fully aware of this
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...I just want to double confirm...I have spent few days just to get my phone for working right...really exhausting to the mind ><
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Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
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Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
jkidz91 said:
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
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Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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If the intent was to just backup a "stock ROM" than no need to backup user data.
If the intent is to make a recovery image, that you can just revert to and start using with no (or very little other actions) than backup data. But as you said, you can restore data (at least app data) with Titanium.
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Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
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If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
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If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
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Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
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Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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What does that mean? >< i tried to do it...it failed...should I just download a stock 4.19.707.2 rom and flash it?