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android or iphone based rom for the vogue?

why doesn't anybody consider making a android based rom for the touch vogue? heck id even be up for a iphone cloned based rom, we need something different! the problem with most iphone themes are that they just mask windows, what we need is a true overall, complete system theme!
anybody up for the challenge?

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android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that

theoneownz said:
android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
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If it's so easy, why don't you do it
It's very difficult to do... nobody has figured out how yet.

i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root

Android is linux...
jnrbshp said:
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
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Let Me start of By saying you have a great idea.. you probably know that android was developed by Google, Microsoft's current largest competitor. Las Week Google Announced That Th Chromium Project is working out so greatly that they plan on makeing a full on desktop replacement operating system based on the linux kernel. Currently The Only Other Operating System Google Has Made Is andriod, No let me explain why this is hard to set up on our phones. The Manufactuer Prudoced a ROM with a windows CE bootloader using thwe files NK.exe. for the boot process, for more info on this process google windows CE boot process. however the entire process is difrent in linux. In linux instead of having NK (CE loader) as part of the windows OS we have a seprate program called a bootloader, the two mos common ones are the LILO or LInux LOader and the GRUB or GRand Unified Boot loader niter of wich anyone knows how to get the HTC phone to recoginse without an external windows CE aplication. Running The Application Is The Abutal Process Of The Bootloader, The COnfigration file is simalar to the windows XP boot.ini. esentialy your copy of android is just another application.
To ths date no one has be able to figure out how to create a rom that can edit the factory bootloadre to male it use GRUB or LILO, however if you wanted to chose one or the other i'd develop it to run a mobile version of GRUB bcause then you can dual boot windows mobile as if you were on a PC .
hope this answered your questions as to why an android ROM isn't out there yet.
Honestly, if there was a version of android and chrome i would switch all my devices over to Google Linux right now, i'm tired of the microsoft way of computing, paying another $150 every two to five years.

in theory you can have both andriod and iphone
android is open source, you should be able to use it as a base foundation and skin it with an iphone interface

[Q] is it possible to make desire dual boot ?

it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?

No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.

Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..

hk5354 said:
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port

Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!

this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions

Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore

Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)

It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms

htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?

Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway

Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier

This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
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im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.

AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325

[Q] Windows Phone 7 Port? :(

Isn't it possible with the Desire HD's specs to make a Windows 7 port? It's more than capable. But I've heard of issues with drivers but it was still ported to HD2? And before anyone asks why would I make my phone "worse" or whatever, I'd like to give it a go, it looks really nice
Also before anyone asks why don't I buy/why didn't I buy a Windows Phone, I'm 14, my parents wouldn't be too keen on buying me another phone.
EDIT: In the poll it should actually say: "Windows Phone 7 SHOULD be ported to the Desire HD, and you want it to happen."

Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.

lewispb said:
Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.
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How long did it take to port to the HD2?

I'd also love to see it happen. Maybe WP7 is worse than Android, but we can't be sure without us trying it out first. Also take in consideration that WP7 has been just released, maybe it's been out in the US for a longer time. But here in the Netherlands it doesn't even have a Dutch version nor a Market released.
Anyway, it's hard indeed, but not impossible. Especially not considering that the DHD is cracked open to the bone. I'm not expert but that would mean that it is possible in theory that the pro's can make it if they want.
I'm up for trying it, I love the style of WP7. Maybe not everything is as good as Android, but the same can be said for iOS vs Android. Everything has it's charms, WP7 has a great interface in my opinion. Android has a great mod-ability, making it possible for devs to make Android great, but the stock Android ain't nothing special. iOS has a great app-store, which makes it powerful, but other than that iOS has nothing special to offer us in comparisson to Android.

guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...

AndroHero said:
guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?

kamranh3 said:
Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?
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you could in theory yes, but what you propose is illegal (windows is closed source) and if all your after is the look and feel of WP7 try designing a theme and then i'm sure you could corrupt some systems files to reduce the stability of android

Hypothetically
I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?

kamranh3 said:
I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?
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I suspect, hypothetically or not, that there would be a lot of work involved in someone producing a windows Bootloader to flash instead of our normal android one, I don't see any devs putting in the work for free to allow installation of a pirated OS, you want WP7 buy a WP7 phone

AndroHero said:
guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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wait so then how does the HD2 do it? cause it is/was running windows 6.5 and now it has got WP7 (pirated) or android or both dual booting.

[Q] Can I flash windows phone OS on DHD?

I don't understand. Is it possible to flash mango to my DHD? Why? I've watched some relative threads but still don't understand.

Stephen. said:
I don't understand. Is it possible to flash mango to my DHD? Why? I've watched some relative threads but still don't understand.
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What you might have seen, is just a theme of Windows Phone OS and not actually the Operating system itself. Desire HD is an android phone and it is not possible to run Windows phone on DHD due to two simple and major reasons.
1. Devs don't give a dubblido about porting windows phone OS onto DHD
2. We all know that Android is much better than Windows phone OS, in terms of accessibility and utility.

...1. Devs don't give a dubblido about porting windows phone OS onto DHD...
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Thanks, but what is dubblido?

Windows Os Is A Closed source and porting it to android is very very hard and impossible if i may say. and if you need windows 7 go and buy one, meanwhile the thread will be closed.

[Question]Is it possible to install windows 10 on mi6?

Since windows can already run on snapdragon 835,i want to try it out on my mi6.
Is it possible and if so how to do it?

xpirad said:
Since windows can already run on snapdragon 835,i want to try it out on my mi6.
Is it possible and if so how to do it?
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We need to have bios for our devices to boot it directly and since we don't have one, our best choice is to wait for a project on xda (I don't remember the name well but I'm pretty sure you can find easily if you search for it) that ports bios for android devices.
But to be honest even if you can run windows on mi 6 there are 2 bad news for you:
1) The vast majority of windows applications are written for x86 architecture and we have arm architecture, so to run them you should emulate either os or run the app in an emulated sandbox - so no good performance.
2) As I said in 1st one, emulation is a must (if you aren't planning to compile all those apps for arm architecture). Also windows 10's capability of running x86 apps on arm is based on that very emulation method, it runs them on a WoW (Windows on Windows) so there's clearly a hit on performance.
I suggest you to not to expect to have a decent windows system running on your arm device but if you need/want to run more basic windows apps, you can try Limbo PC Emulator. That way you can run some older or stripped down versions of windows with no heavy performance loss. For most of the basic things I find MicroXP project enough but don't expect to be able to run Photoshop on that I hope this answers your question.

I see, thank you ccelik97 for your clear answer.