Has anyone else found the following web site with instructions on setting up a 4G/3G/Edge switch on the Web
(Do a search to find the link)
I tired it and was able to get the switch, but I have not been able to try it on 4G(LTE) yet as I do not have LTE reception where I live and only have 3G (the phone says 4G, but I know it is 3G+) but will try it at work tomorrow where I can actually get LTE.
But one thing I noticed is that I cannot get EDGE service where I live. I heard that AT&T wanted to get rid of 2G (EDGE). Have they done that already?
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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On AT&T, there are 4 types of data. 2G/EDGE, 3G, "4G"/3G+/HSPA+ and LTE.
We all know about 2g and 3g, but many people like you don't know about the difference between "4g" and LTE.
This whole thing was started by T-Mobile, because this was the early days of LTE, and Sprint was advertising it's WiMax network as 4G, T-Mobile decided to use a technology called HSPA+ and brand it as 4G. Initially, AT&T scolded T-Mobile for this move, but as soon as it was decided HSPA+ could be considered 4G, AT&T rapidly built up a network of this, almost as large as their 3G network.
HSPA+ is basically a faster version of 3G, hence why it's often called 3G+. However, AT&T tries to advertise it as 4G so they can boast they have the largest 4G network, even though Verizon leads the charge with the most LTE sites. HSPA+ is a bit faster than 3G, but doesn't hold a candle to LTE. However, it does have it advantages, such as being compatible on the iPhone 4S, and unlike Verizon, on AT&T, if you loose LTE coverage, you can fall back on HSPA+, where as on Verizon you fall back on their CDMA network (Which is still slower than AT&T's GSM network).
So over all it's good and leads to faster overall experience, unless of course you're in LTE coverage 24/7, then it doesn't matter that much. My (and others) only problem with this is AT&T branding it as 4G, which tricks consumers.
These days, both AT&T and T-Mobile branded devices display "4G" for *any* UMTS connectivity, instead of 3G/H.
It's lame.
My 900 has this switch in the settings without the need for any hacks
you hit #data# and then hit the ... button at the bottom and set up the toggle between speeds. Then restart the device, go under settings>cellular> select data speed.
With this device's data speed selection, 2G= edge, 3g= HSPA+/UTMS, 4G= LTE. Eventhough ATT modified the registry so that UTMS shows 4G at the top of the device, when you select 3G in the speed selection, you are only making the phone connect to HSPA+/UTMS
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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Hey, they stole my article that I originally posted on Mobility Digest. (www.mobilitydigest.com). They even took my screen shot. I purposely took that shot when my phone was showing "G". Oh well. Btw, it does work.
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Hi All. Long time since I’ve posted but looking at getting a note 2 tomorrow.
Now I live in Australia and on the Optus network but using a cheap provider that at the moment only uses their 3G network.
At the moment I have a sim card setupfor the 3G network.,
At the moment Vaya don’t have access to the Optus 4G network (1800MHz frequency) but it is gonna happen.
Can I buy a LTE version and use my current sim and run on the 3G (H+ even) using my existing sim card and the 4G note 2?
Then when Vaya release their 4G plans I can grab a 4G sim (or is 4G just account and phone dependant??) and away I go?
I believe it shouldn’t be a problem as the phone still operates on the 3G network as if I bought a N7100 if 4G is not enabled. But it will use more power just having that chip sitting in there.
yes, it will work.
it will only work in 4g if a 4g network is supported from your carrier. otherwise it will revert to the fastest network from your carrier that is supported by the device, which in most cases is hsdpa.
Souai said:
yes, it will work.
it will only work in 4g if a 4g network is supported from your carrier. otherwise it will revert to the fastest network from your carrier that is supported by the device, which in most cases is hsdpa.
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Thanks for your reply.
Now I've been searching everywhere for good analysis on the 3G and 4G battery comparison but there isn't much out there but personal thoughts. Well there is more on the S3 so maybe that is a good guideline.
So the 4G version with LTE turned on can only achieve half the screen on time of the 3G version. Wow that terrible. With LTE off it last about 7-8 hours screen time rather than closer to 10 hours to the 3 version.
Has anyone got some good links that compare the battery life between the two models? I can live with turning 4G off most of the time if it doesn't drain too much but I don't need the speed if it has a big toll on the battery life even with LTE turned off.
http://www.samsungupdate.com/tag/battery-life-3g-vs-4g-galaxy-note-2
Its touched on here but still not sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979246
Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Hmm, those match my settings and I am getting LTE. Dumb question, but have you restarted? I noticed my phone can get kinda quirky when switching between APN's, or if the data gets turned off by another app for some dumb reason or another.
I have a feeling there is a little more tweaking to do to the modem from Oppo...
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Hmm, those match my settings and I am getting LTE. Dumb question, but have you restarted? I noticed my phone can get kinda quirky when switching between APN's, or if the data gets turned off by another app for some dumb reason or another.
I have a feeling there is a little more tweaking to do to the modem from Oppo...
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I get LTE (4G) with these setting just fine on TMO in Texas.... remember it will show 4G not LTE.
ramana.spencer said:
Was briefly excited on the arrival of my US version from oppostyle, but after hours of T-mobile tech support, a factory reset, APN attempts, still no LTE or proper 3g even on my Find 7, even though I live in a strong 3g/4g area...only (HSPA) H and H+. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Have you confirmed that you actually have LTE in your area?
Remember that for years, T-Mobile and AT&T called HSPA+ "4G"
Entropy512 said:
Have you confirmed that you actually have LTE in your area?
Remember that for years, T-Mobile and AT&T called HSPA+ "4G"
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I was uunclear about H+, have just been looking up info....Was on Verizon, a GSM newbee here
However, I am seeing very slow speeds on HSPA+ and HSP...not even seeing much of a difference in speeds between the two on my device.
between them. Averaging 0.6 Mbps to 1.3 Mbps down, and 0.8 mbps to 1.3 Mbps up, even though T-mobile tech support claims I have excellent 4g coverage in my area. Is this most likely hardware?
Also, on my roadtrip yesterday to Medford, I was capping off at around 10 Mbps on LTE at the most, which seems a ,ittle slow for LTE.
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I was uunclear about H+, have just been looking up info....Was on Verizon, a GSM newbee here
However, I am seeing very slow speeds on HSPA+ and HSP...not even seeing much of a difference in speeds between the two on my device.
between them. Averaging 0.6 Mbps to 1.3 Mbps down, and 0.8 mbps to 1.3 Mbps up, even though T-mobile tech support claims I have excellent 4g coverage in my area. Is this most likely hardware?
Also, on my roadtrip yesterday to Medford, I was capping off at around 10 Mbps on LTE at the most, which seems a ,ittle slow for LTE.
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Sometimes your coverage can be solid but the backhaul (connection between towers and the Internet) can be awful. AT&T's local reps even told me that the local LTE isn't going to be particularly good for a while until they upgrade the backhaul to the towers.
Your HSPA+ speeds seem low, but that's in comparison with my AT&T experiences. I might try doing a speedtest comparison of LTE between my Nexus 5 and my Find 7a if I can.
I was reading the pocketnow review and they had trouble getting the phone to work on AT&T and T-mobile in the US. Does this phone even support T-Mobile LTE bands? In most areas T-Mobile has their LTE on the AWS band.
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It actually does support them...I was told there was 4g here but there isn't as of yet
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Mine does get all of these (4G, H, H+, etc.) but the problem is most of the time it can't even get data connection.
GPRS Setting for LTE works for Me
I was having problems connecting to data,calls no problem (OPPO FIND 7 USA).
Anyway,the automatic APN settings weren't right for me,I had to manually set the APN Protocol setting to IPV4 (wasn't set,reading Not Set) & it finally connected to 4G LTE.
Here's the strange part:
The APN Name (On OPPO FIND 7,USA Model) is T-Mobile GPRS NOT T-Mobile LTE.
If I changed the name,it wouldn't connect to data at all.
From best I can tell via web search, GPRS is synonymous with 2G,however,I have 4G LTE when this APN Name is used.
I've seen others having a hard time connecting to the network & seems this bug arose in the latest update.
Anyway,my settings are identical to those in the pics in the OP EXCEPT the very 1st line,the APN Name.
Where I'm at right now is notorious for a weak signal due to building/equipment interference,however,I'm picking up an excellent signal (-90 to -80dBm / 53asu) on LTE:13
Have you tried to turn on LTE 4G by going in the dialer type *#*#4636#*#* phone information and set preferred network as LTE only ?
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Have you tried to turn on LTE 4G by going in the dialer type *#*#4636#*#* phone information and set preferred network as LTE only ?
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Yes.
As it is now,w/the APN Name as T-Mobile GPRS & in the hidden menu,changing the preferred network to LTE has no effect,it stays connected to LTE & everything below that which is available in my area.
I just left it as UNKNOWN.
I tried changing the APN Name to T-Mobile LTE & it immediately disconnects,regardless of any other changes in the hidden menus.
As the phone senses/sets-up Auto APN,the only apparent thing that is omitted is the APN Protocol setting,which by default on my phone & SIM Card registered Not Set.
Changing that value to IPV4 (from Not Set) is what made the difference.
Perhaps this quirk has something to do with 2G in my area having been replaced/upgraded to 4G & 4G LTE & the phone doesn't sense the difference/recognize the difference but in name only,but,accepts the 4G/LTE Connection.
Not knowing all things network/etc..,this seems like a possible explanation.
All I know is that I have an excellent connection & fast speeds w/browsing/etc.....
I don't care what the phone calls it,or sees it as,success is success.
I've seen stranger things than this........
I have since replaced my SIM CARD & had no problems connecting to T-MOBILE's 4G LTE,no modification of the APN was needed.
However,this is while flashed to CYANOGENMOD 11 nightlies,have no idea if the previous issues would pop-up if running the stock COLOR 1.2.4i O/S.
I have had issues with T-mobile LTE. Played around with all the settings. Deleted the APN and created a new one, etc. It works now, but I didn't do anything special, it started working randomly a day or 2 later
Strangely enough I'm having the same problem getting 3g with Virgin (EE/TMobile) in the UK
It can take a while for LTE to provision after setting up the APN. Set it and let it try for about an hour.
APN
The APN setting should have no effect on this.
You have 2 different fields when you type *#*#4636#*#*, gsm service and gprs service. If gsm service does not show "in service", you can use any APN in the world and it still won't work.
So I flashed this rom yesterday on my t889 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724553
Its been working great and I really love it but there's one thing that I'm having problem with. On the data option you can only pick LTE, 3g,and 2g. I actually need an option like LTE/4g because I live in Corpus Christi Texas where LTE is ON and OFF on T-mobile (You get LTE sometimes but sometimes you only get 4g) and what this rom does is, it only search for an LTE network. And since the LTE network in here is on and off meaning it switches to 4G only and that makes my phone unable to connect to the internet.
Is there any fix to this? Or is there any 4.4.4 rom that has this option? I hope I explained my problem well and I'm sorry I can't post on the liquidsmooth thread because It won't let me cause I need more post count. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
kevzz01 said:
So I flashed this rom yesterday on my t889 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724553
Its been working great and I really love it but there's one thing that I'm having problem with. On the data option you can only pick LTE, 3g,and 2g. I actually need an option like LTE/4g because I live in Corpus Christi Texas where LTE is ON and OFF on T-mobile (You get LTE sometimes but sometimes you only get 4g) and what this rom does is, it only search for an LTE network. And since the LTE network in here is on and off meaning it switches to 4G only and that makes my phone unable to connect to the internet.
Is there any fix to this? Or is there any 4.4.4 rom that has this option? I hope I explained my problem well and I'm sorry I can't post on the liquidsmooth thread because It won't let me cause I need more post count. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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On AOSP based ROMs the network modes are reported by what technology they are using. LTE is reported usually as LTE or 4G. TMO "4g" is UMTS, HSPA, HSPA+, etc and are more like 3 to 3.5g. Tmo "4g" is mostly a marketing gimmick that blends 3g tech and relative 4g speed (with the downside of terrible latency at times).
Choose the 4,3,2g option, the phone will try to get you the most effective connection available.
Don't be discouraged if you end up sitting in UMTS/3g for the most part, the device can shift into "4g"/HSPA+ nearly instantaneously.
I have a d855 model and I read it can't use LTE. Mine displays H instead of LTE but streams hd video as fast as my LTE phone or at least I notice no difference. When I did speed test when tether to laptop I got 4mbps which is still high speed but I think LTE is way faster.
My question is if no 4g/LTE which is limited at 2.5gb per month then am I unlimited high speed ? Just slower high speed.
Nope, 2.5gb with LTE, HSDPA, 3G, EDGE or GPRS and after that your speed will be limited to 64kbit/s (or slower) till end of month.
The phone does in fact have LTE. And whatever stipulations are concerning your data plan are specific to the plan you have on your wireless carrier.
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The phone does in fact have LTE. And whatever stipulations are concerning your data plan are specific to the plan you have on your wireless carrier.
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I'm not so much concerned with LTE being available in other parts of the world based on the frequencies of the d855. I need LTE here in the USA and so far I've found the question asked a ton of times and all of the answers are that it does not have LTE. It does not have 1700 or 1900 capabilities which is what T-mobile needs. I even read posts where ATT people can't seem to get it to work with their LTE. I tested it last night and got 3g speeds for tethering 4.19mbps, then put sim in my chinese Huawei and got 28.35mbps so for sure it's on 3g and not LTE. It works great on 3g and is fairly fast but the fact that a USA seller who is selling in the USA would specifically state 4g LTE phone and not mention anywhere in the ebay ad that LTE won't work in the country he is trying to sell it is irritating. If he was a seller in another country then it would be another story. Even his rating was great and no complaints about the d855 but most people might not care that they aren't getting LTE.
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I'm not so much concerned with LTE being available in other parts of the world based on the frequencies of the d855. I need LTE here in the USA and so far I've found the question asked a ton of times and all of the answers are that it does not have LTE. It does not have 1700 or 1900 capabilities which is what T-mobile needs. I even read posts where ATT people can't seem to get it to work with their LTE. I tested it last night and got 3g speeds for tethering 4.19mbps, then put sim in my chinese Huawei and got 28.35mbps so for sure it's on 3g and not LTE. It works great on 3g and is fairly fast but the fact that a USA seller who is selling in the USA would specifically state 4g LTE phone and not mention anywhere in the ebay ad that LTE won't work in the country he is trying to sell it is irritating. If he was a seller in another country then it would be another story. Even his rating was great and no complaints about the d855 but most people might not care that they aren't getting LTE.
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Gotcha. You never mentioned in your original post where you live so I had no idea.
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Gotcha. You never mentioned in your original post where you live so I had no idea.
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sorry, I noticed your info said London so figured you might not have. They said they'll refund so should be fine. I just want to make sure they don't hit me with a restockng fee. I currently use the Huawei Ascend Mate 2. 6.1" screen and 4000mah battery is hard to walk away from. It's the camera on it that isn't so awesome.