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Has anyone else found the following web site with instructions on setting up a 4G/3G/Edge switch on the Web
(Do a search to find the link)
I tired it and was able to get the switch, but I have not been able to try it on 4G(LTE) yet as I do not have LTE reception where I live and only have 3G (the phone says 4G, but I know it is 3G+) but will try it at work tomorrow where I can actually get LTE.
But one thing I noticed is that I cannot get EDGE service where I live. I heard that AT&T wanted to get rid of 2G (EDGE). Have they done that already?
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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On AT&T, there are 4 types of data. 2G/EDGE, 3G, "4G"/3G+/HSPA+ and LTE.
We all know about 2g and 3g, but many people like you don't know about the difference between "4g" and LTE.
This whole thing was started by T-Mobile, because this was the early days of LTE, and Sprint was advertising it's WiMax network as 4G, T-Mobile decided to use a technology called HSPA+ and brand it as 4G. Initially, AT&T scolded T-Mobile for this move, but as soon as it was decided HSPA+ could be considered 4G, AT&T rapidly built up a network of this, almost as large as their 3G network.
HSPA+ is basically a faster version of 3G, hence why it's often called 3G+. However, AT&T tries to advertise it as 4G so they can boast they have the largest 4G network, even though Verizon leads the charge with the most LTE sites. HSPA+ is a bit faster than 3G, but doesn't hold a candle to LTE. However, it does have it advantages, such as being compatible on the iPhone 4S, and unlike Verizon, on AT&T, if you loose LTE coverage, you can fall back on HSPA+, where as on Verizon you fall back on their CDMA network (Which is still slower than AT&T's GSM network).
So over all it's good and leads to faster overall experience, unless of course you're in LTE coverage 24/7, then it doesn't matter that much. My (and others) only problem with this is AT&T branding it as 4G, which tricks consumers.
These days, both AT&T and T-Mobile branded devices display "4G" for *any* UMTS connectivity, instead of 3G/H.
It's lame.
My 900 has this switch in the settings without the need for any hacks
you hit #data# and then hit the ... button at the bottom and set up the toggle between speeds. Then restart the device, go under settings>cellular> select data speed.
With this device's data speed selection, 2G= edge, 3g= HSPA+/UTMS, 4G= LTE. Eventhough ATT modified the registry so that UTMS shows 4G at the top of the device, when you select 3G in the speed selection, you are only making the phone connect to HSPA+/UTMS
hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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Hey, they stole my article that I originally posted on Mobility Digest. (www.mobilitydigest.com). They even took my screen shot. I purposely took that shot when my phone was showing "G". Oh well. Btw, it does work.
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Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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I'm using N7105 on a non-LTE provider and still works as a charm without battery issues. 50% on day 1 with playing around lasted me half day.
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fishingfon said:
Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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yes you are able to disable the LTE network, and choose the GSM/WCDMA instead.
But without disabling it, the network will auto choose the available network. If you current telco doesn't provide any LTE connection, the phone will auto change to 3G.
Like here the telco I'm using, even provides the 4G connection, but, in facts, it is not yet island-wide. So, when I reach my home, it turns directly to 3G. Battery wise, as I notice, is the same. Not much different when you are in 4G or in 3G. But yes, speed is different when you are in 4G.
The only lack of this 4G (N7105), .....
we still don't have specific forum for N7105 (dunno why we don't have... LOL) nor custom ROM. So, I just have to bear with the stock ROM rooted. :fingers-crossed:
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.
Future proof?
Well depends on how long you are intending to keep it. These days people change phone very frequently and LTE is no loss for most general usage of data use.
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There is already a 3G and LTE version out in Australian market with a price difference of $200+ with the latter being more expensive.
If you are moving back to England very soon (1 or 2 months), do check out the price and review of the LTE plans and services with the various mobile providers before deciding which version to purchase. Have read online that LTE charges in Europe is a killer and data speed of LTE will be greatly affected by the amount of users at the same time, within the same WAN.
As for future-proofing your phone, it will depends on how long you are using it since nowadays, majority of the ppl does not use the same phone for more than 2 years, which is directly affected by the various 'annual contract plans' which the providers has to offer.
Flashing the International version Rom to my N7105 was not very successful as I lost WIFI/Data/Mobile receiption and I have since unrooted my device..
Waiting for the official Home for N7105 as well.. :fingers-crossed:
Hi all,
I am planning to get a note 2 from mobicity here in Australia.
I have the choice of either the 4g LTE version or the 3g version.
My network at the moment doesn't support 4g, so i would only be getting it to future proof it. And i am moving back to England soon, so i might get 4g when I go there.
But if I get the 4g version, I know that 4g LTE uses a lot more battery then the 3g version. But if I disabled 4g in settings (like you can disable 3g on the galaxy s2) would I then get the same battery life as the 3g version? Or would I still get worse battery life?.
I really need to know, as if I would still get worse battery life, I will get the 3g version.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Corey
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The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
interfreak said:
The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
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Hi,
I don't have 4g coverage at the moment, but i am moving to England soon, and I heard they are starting to roll out 4g there at the moment.
I am only 16, and I am currently un-employed, so i don't have any income, apart from the money my dad gives me, so i can't upgrade my phone each year.
That's why I want to future proof it.
If I do buy the 4g version, and I disabled 4g in settings (I heard the was a option for that in the setting of the n2) then would I get the same battery life as if I had the 3g version? As that should disable the 4g radio. And from what I can find out, the only difference between the 4g and the 3g version is the 4G radio in the lte version.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
interfreak said:
Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Ok thanks,
Do you know if it would give the same battery life as the 3g model if I disabled 4g?
As battery life is really important for me, as my current phone is the galaxy s2, and the battery life is terrible on it, I have to recharge 2 to 3 times a day, so no matter which note 2 I get it will be better then that.
But i want to get the best battery life I can.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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I don't know if anyone can guarantee it will be the same between the two, but no matter how you slice it, you'll still get MUCH better battery life on the N2 than on your S2...even if you keep 4g on...so if you turn it off, it will just be that much better. It's a win win either way.
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Actually, 4G is more battery comsume than 3G, but the difference is not so large, auound 10-15%, when you turn off the 4G, the battery performance is same as 3G version.
But the download speed have very big difference between 3g and 4g. I advise you choice LTE version
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Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
what is the reason?
lawtq said:
Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
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But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
seyedshahaboddin said:
But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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Im using the N7105 on "3" in the uk to make use of the DC-HSPA+
Thats specifically why I went for the N7105 because I have unlimited data on that network and the N7100 doesn't support DC.
I use the phone a lot and I easily get a full days use on a single charge and as long as I can do that I don't care as I charge the phone every night.
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@rbiter said:
Faster hspa uses more power too.
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This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
seyedshahaboddin said:
This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
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Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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@rbiter said:
Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
4g speed is worth the battery life i would say..i am a 4g user..
seyedshahaboddin said:
First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
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From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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@rbiter said:
From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
seyedshahaboddin said:
I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
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Make sure the lte bands are compatible and that you have coverage. If you don't have coverage I would just get the n7100. BTW, even though I think Nokia and Motorola by far still make the best phones as far as reception is concerned, Samsung should get an honorable mention for being very battery friendly when signal is poor. Nokia too. Motorola is iffy when it comes to poor signal. And not to mention, the galaxy note 2 gets very good reception for a Samsung phone and by far has the best WiFi reception of any phone I have ever had. Even better than my atrix.
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But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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seyedshahaboddin said:
But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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if you buy an 7105 and don't use lte at all, it will probably get a little less battery like i mentioned before. otoh though, it has dc-hspa so it would depend if you get the same as n7100 on your coverage and speeds. anyways, at most you will probably see a 20% loss of what you would see with a 7100. at most. anyways, quit asking for my approval. if you can get an unlocked n7105 and don't mind a small POTENTIAL loss, you should be good to go.
Hey guys.
I posted this on another forum, but I wanted to see if you guys had anymore input.
I have a HTC One M8 on Tmobile, flashed with Viper rom and fully updated. Ever since day one I've had pretty terrible LTE in my home. The phone would constantly switch over to HSPA+ and I would have to force it to connect to LTE. When connected to LTE it shows anywhere from 3-5 bars of signal and various apps show between -100 and -110 dbm.
Speed tests are horrific. I am showing 3Mbps down and average of 2.5 Mbps up. Other parts of my home get slightly better, but it never tops 10 down and 6 up.
Today my Nexus 7 from Tmobile arrived today. With a new data plan from Tmobile. This tablet is able to get 17 down and almost 12 upload literally sitting right next to my phone. The same apps are showing similar DBM and they are both connected to the same tower.
Any idea why this might be? Differences in the radio? Problem with my account?
My phone is on a grandfathered 20$ unlimited 4G, and the Tablet is on the free 1GB LTE plan.
Also, the phone was able to get 40-50 down and 20 up when I traveled to another town the other night.
Any input is appreciated.
ThackSS said:
Hey guys.
I posted this on another forum, but I wanted to see if you guys had anymore input.
I have a HTC One M8 on Tmobile, flashed with Viper rom and fully updated. Ever since day one I've had pretty terrible LTE in my home. The phone would constantly switch over to HSPA+ and I would have to force it to connect to LTE. When connected to LTE it shows anywhere from 3-5 bars of signal and various apps show between -100 and -110 dbm.
Speed tests are horrific. I am showing 3Mbps down and average of 2.5 Mbps up. Other parts of my home get slightly better, but it never tops 10 down and 6 up.
Today my Nexus 7 from Tmobile arrived today. With a new data plan from Tmobile. This tablet is able to get 17 down and almost 12 upload literally sitting right next to my phone. The same apps are showing similar DBM and they are both connected to the same tower.
Any idea why this might be? Differences in the radio? Problem with my account?
My phone is on a grandfathered 20$ unlimited 4G, and the Tablet is on the free 1GB LTE plan.
Also, the phone was able to get 40-50 down and 20 up when I traveled to another town the other night.
Any input is appreciated.
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I would guess a bigger/better antenna in the Nexus 7 as one of the possible culprits. Also, the Nexus has been around longer, so the radio firmware is a little more mature. The M8 may get better with radio/firmware revisions, but there's no way to know for sure. I would call T-Mobile and ask for a signal booster and see if that helps. They're free save for a 7 dollar shipping charge, and sometimes you can get that waived as well.
ThackSS said:
Hey guys.
I posted this on another forum, but I wanted to see if you guys had anymore input.
I have a HTC One M8 on Tmobile, flashed with Viper rom and fully updated. Ever since day one I've had pretty terrible LTE in my home. The phone would constantly switch over to HSPA+ and I would have to force it to connect to LTE. When connected to LTE it shows anywhere from 3-5 bars of signal and various apps show between -100 and -110 dbm.
Speed tests are horrific. I am showing 3Mbps down and average of 2.5 Mbps up. Other parts of my home get slightly better, but it never tops 10 down and 6 up.
Today my Nexus 7 from Tmobile arrived today. With a new data plan from Tmobile. This tablet is able to get 17 down and almost 12 upload literally sitting right next to my phone. The same apps are showing similar DBM and they are both connected to the same tower.
Any idea why this might be? Differences in the radio? Problem with my account?
My phone is on a grandfathered 20$ unlimited 4G, and the Tablet is on the free 1GB LTE plan.
Also, the phone was able to get 40-50 down and 20 up when I traveled to another town the other night.
Any input is appreciated.
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T-mobile Rep told me that M8 is lacking one of the LTE bands. I decided to try it anyways. I experienced same issues as you are. I will be returning this phone only because of connectivity issues, other than that I really like this phone.
My current phone is Nexus 5, and I never had any connectivity issues that I am having with M8.
ThackSS said:
Hey guys.
I posted this on another forum, but I wanted to see if you guys had anymore input.
I have a HTC One M8 on Tmobile, flashed with Viper rom and fully updated. Ever since day one I've had pretty terrible LTE in my home. The phone would constantly switch over to HSPA+ and I would have to force it to connect to LTE. When connected to LTE it shows anywhere from 3-5 bars of signal and various apps show between -100 and -110 dbm.
Speed tests are horrific. I am showing 3Mbps down and average of 2.5 Mbps up. Other parts of my home get slightly better, but it never tops 10 down and 6 up.
Today my Nexus 7 from Tmobile arrived today. With a new data plan from Tmobile. This tablet is able to get 17 down and almost 12 upload literally sitting right next to my phone. The same apps are showing similar DBM and they are both connected to the same tower.
Any idea why this might be? Differences in the radio? Problem with my account?
My phone is on a grandfathered 20$ unlimited 4G, and the Tablet is on the free 1GB LTE plan.
Also, the phone was able to get 40-50 down and 20 up when I traveled to another town the other night.
Any input is appreciated.
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its not the phone, its the tmobile rom & radio....
i used to have htc one m7 AT&T and i installed tmobile stock ruu on it. i experienced better signal (i have at&t service) talk & text, the bars went from 3 to full bars with tmobile rom. but the 4g lte sucks, it keep switching from 4g lte to 4g all the time.
now i bought HTC one m8 T-mobile from friend, and im having the same thing 4g lte sucks it keeps jumping to 4g. but the signal is full bars.
i tried my at&t sim card into another HTC one m8 at&t for few days, and the 4g lte is very good and stable. matter of fact i haven't see the 4g icon ever on it. but i have 2 to 3 bars signal inside the home and if lucky get 4 outside.
i believe because at&t radio support more bands
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T
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oh and don't try to flash just the radio, i have tried that and there is no different. it has to be the full stock RUU
salwansk said:
its not the phone, its the tmobile rom & radio....
i used to have htc one m7 AT&T and i installed tmobile stock ruu on it. i experienced better signal (i have at&t service) talk & text, the bars went from 3 to full bars with tmobile rom. but the 4g lte sucks, it keep switching from 4g lte to 4g all the time.
now i bought HTC one m8 T-mobile from friend, and im having the same thing 4g lte sucks it keeps jumping to 4g. but the signal is full bars.
i tried my at&t sim card into another HTC one m8 at&t for few days, and the 4g lte is very good and stable. matter of fact i haven't see the 4g icon ever on it. but i have 2 to 3 bars signal inside the home and if lucky get 4 outside.
i believe because at&t radio support more bands
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T
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oh and don't try to flash just the radio, i have tried that and there is no different. it has to be the full stock RUU
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Thank you for your reply. Rep specifically said that it was a hardware issue.
My wife has M7 and she gets constant LTE on it.
Even when M8 has good LTE signal, speed test is so much slower comparing to M7 or Nexus 5.
To be honest, I use WIFI 98%. So you might be right, because I haven't install the AT&T RUU on my phone yet "not available". So I cant be 100% sure about it, but from my experience T-Mobile phones are cheaper quality anyway. Just like you buying a new car with basic options, not top loaded
I am stock not rooted and have had the T-MO HTC M8 for exactly one week today. I live in Miami, Fl and I might have seen the 4G icon 2 or 3 times in the last week. I'm always on 4G LTE.
HTC ONE M8
It's been 5 business days and I am still waiting to hear about the status of my tech support ticket sent to "engineering"
Not happy with this so far. The only way I can keep LTE is to force it via the radio menu and even then... the performance is literally 1/3rd of the Nexus 7 sitting right next to it.
Very disappointing. Not sure if its the phone.. the tower.. or what.
rome425 said:
Thank you for your reply. Rep specifically said that it was a hardware issue.
My wife has M7 and she gets constant LTE on it.
Even when M8 has good LTE signal, speed test is so much slower comparing to M7 or Nexus 5.
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The rep lied to you. The m8 supports the exact same LTE bands as the m7, no more no less. It isn't a frequency or band support issue. Both devices support 700MHz and AWS Bands for LTE. If you can CONNECT with one you can CONNECT with the other.
The problem really seems to be t-mobile hasn't updated all their systems to work well with HTC's new radio firmware (I'm not referring to their refarming here). The solution would be HTC could revert the firmware or t-mobile could update their system. T Mobile does not seem keen to do that, likely do to using all their resources being used on Samsung at the moment.
They (T-Mobile) can't admit they share the blame for the problem so they pass the buck to HTC, but its not solely HTC's fault. The truth is it is only older network systems that are affected. So, areas like LA that have older systems and more traffic have problems, areas like Las Vegas where the system has been completely overhauled have no issues with LTE CONNECTIVITY at all.
I can attest to this personally as I was traveling to Los Angeles just last week. I could be sitting in the same spot and one minute have LTE connection with solid speeds and the next minute sit with no connection while still displaying a full LTE signal. This is because t-mobile's system wants to kick you down to a stronger signal, that being HSPA, but HTC's radio firmware wants to keep you on LTE. They are not playing nicely.
The reason why I'm stressing the words connect and connectivity is because that is what we are really talking about. Speeds are completely different issue. If you do not have support for a certain LTE band then you will not have any connectivity. Not just a slow speed and not just a bouncy connection, but no connection at all.
sources:
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/#/
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m8/
Not sure what it is, but I'm also having LTE issues...quite a few times I have to turn it on airplane mode then back off for it to reconnect. Speed test results are weak too.
Now the AT&T branded HTC One M7 I had before this FLEW...might have to return the M8 and go back to the M7 :crying:
I don't have any issues with mine and I drive all over L.A .
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salwansk said:
its not the phone, its the tmobile rom & radio....
i used to have htc one m7 AT&T and i installed tmobile stock ruu on it. i experienced better signal (i have at&t service) talk & text, the bars went from 3 to full bars with tmobile rom. but the 4g lte sucks, it keep switching from 4g lte to 4g all the time.
now i bought HTC one m8 T-mobile from friend, and im having the same thing 4g lte sucks it keeps jumping to 4g. but the signal is full bars.
i tried my at&t sim card into another HTC one m8 at&t for few days, and the 4g lte is very good and stable. matter of fact i haven't see the 4g icon ever on it. but i have 2 to 3 bars signal inside the home and if lucky get 4 outside.
i believe because at&t radio support more bands
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T
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oh and don't try to flash just the radio, i have tried that and there is no different. it has to be the full stock RUU
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That is Tmo's LTE bands. 1900 has been rolling out this year and 700 later this year. So you can't blame it on the missing the new band 2.
I'm sorry I missed something these are the Frequency
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T
The bands are
ATT uses or has spectrum for LTE bands:
2,4,5,17
While TMO only has spectrum for LTE bands:
2,4
Dunno what's going on in Philadelphia this past week but before I get no signal in my bathroom and my speed are around 18 down 12 up. But today I get good lte signals in my bathroom and my speed bump 35 down and 20 up.:thumbup:
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Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
amstel78 said:
Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
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I can't state this as a fact for the tmo P607T but remember that the tmo 3g version of the
Samsung galaxy tab plus 7.0 had a similar situation. Users were looking to add phone functions
to this device.
Turned out on the xda threads that the tmo tab plus 7.0 had no hardware
to support phone functions as the international version did.
amstel78 said:
Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
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The GSM mode only makes it so you can force the Device into 2g or Edge mode. If you do not want to use LTE just pick WCDMA which is 3g/HSPA+ and GSM(2g/edge). If you are looking to turn off the T-Mobile data part Pull the Sim card out or just put the Tablet into Airplane mode which you can till turn on Wifi. I bought my Note just for Wifi, and using EIP. So i am not using it with T-Mobile Data. getting a data plan on the tablet is a big waste when you can just hotpsot your phone.
Prod1702 said:
The GSM mode only makes it so you can force the Device into 2g or Edge mode. If you do not want to use LTE just pick WCDMA which is 3g/HSPA+ and GSM(2g/edge). If you are looking to turn off the T-Mobile data part Pull the Sim card out or just put the Tablet into Airplane mode which you can till turn on Wifi. I bought my Note just for Wifi, and using EIP. So i am not using it with T-Mobile Data. getting a data plan on the tablet is a big waste when you can just hotpsot your phone.
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Well, it turns out that my tablet is defective. T-Mobile is sending me a replacement. I spoke to several tier 2 techs including one Samsung specialist and they all concurred that the band governing 2g on my Note must be inoperative. Weird right?
Well I got my replacement Note in the mail yesterday and it also will not connect to the 2G/Edge network near my house. I highly doubt I could have gotten 2 bad tablets in a row so there's something else amiss here. Perhaps the specs on T-Mo's website is incorrect and this new device simply doesn't have the capability to go to 2G/Edge or the modem firmware being used is a crippled version.
Very disappointed to say the least; yes Edge is horrendously slow but can be beneficial in a pinch sometimes. Any thoughts?
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... or the modem firmware being used is a crippled version. ... Very disappointed to say the least; yes Edge is horrendously slow but can be beneficial in a pinch sometimes.
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Yeah, I think you're right; despite unlocking mine and using it on AT&T (which does have better coverage), there's places on my commute where there's 4 bars, yet no data transfer. I've yet to see an "E" or "3G" symbol, either.
I'm thinking about trying to flash the P605M radio, but that'll have to wait 'till the weekend.
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Yeah, I think you're right; despite unlocking mine and using it on AT&T (which does have better coverage), there's places on my commute where there's 4 bars, yet no data transfer. I've yet to see an "E" or "3G" symbol, either.
I'm thinking about trying to flash the P605M radio, but that'll have to wait 'till the weekend.
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Please keep me posted on your results if you do end up flashing the modem. I'd be very interested to see what you discover.
I wonder if this move by T-Mo to cut 2g/Edge compatibility has something to do with their rumored intention of converting all of their 2g spectrum to 4g? Even if that were true though, that precludes using this as an unlocked device in other areas or countries that may only have 2g/3g coverage. What about data roaming?
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Please keep me posted on your results if you do end up flashing the modem. I'd be very interested to see what you discover.
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Well, turns out that I might put that off a little bit later than the weekend- I've since had mine unlocked and as it gets the VZW LTE bands, I'm going to see how well it does on that (VZW drops back to CDMA in non-LTE areas, so I'd be completely without service). VZW LTE is pretty ubiquitous from what I'd seen with my OG Xoom, but if it turns out I lose service on the train in large spots I'll revisit GSM options again.
Besides, I might just flash the radios just to see what happens