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Hey guys,
I'm kinda new to the HTC/Android world, found this community a damn good place to find support.. But now I've hit a road block.
Basically, I've been eager to root from day 1 of getting my first htc handset, I came across from jailbreak and loved the fact of customizability with Android.
So I had the Google play edition(I think, all geared towards Google) running Kit Kat 4.4.4. Love it, big Google user so this all tied together lovely.
Here is the Situation.
I found a video on youtube, cannot provide URL as I'm in work at the moment, but it was root guide from scratch. Fresh windows OS, seemingly a phone fresh out the box.. you get the idea.
I used the Hasoon2000 tool to root the device. Installed ADB etc on my pc, signed up as a a dev, got the Key for device, sent in and received my .bin file. I got up to actually rooting my device, well pleased and happy. Using TWRP via Hasoon2000.
But here is where **** hits the fan.
The device needed to update, It took me back to 4.4.2 but Im unsure on how to get back to most up to date OS and keep the root.
But when I reboot to install this, it goes into TWRP. no other way around this.
Queried this on another forum, decided to continue to be patient... but no replies, in the mean time I restored my apps and have a fiddle, see what the root function can do for myself.
I installed "Freedom 1.0.6" and a program called "Market Share"- Hate iAP, some games are ridiculously priced for the smallest of things, I just wanted to sandbox plague inc. ;(
Now the device is stuck in a boot loop, phone starts up, see the home screen for a bout 40 seconds/ one minute.. Some times I unlock the device and it goes back to flash screen then.. others I boot an app and its slides away once more.
This happened close to 15x before I left for work this morning and I imagine its just going to repeat this and run the battery - I tried to stop this loop by going into TWRP and possibly choosing to boot system this way may of stopped it.. but when I was on the boot screen with those options.. It said Tampered at top of screen and S-On- which has scared me quite a bit..
What the hell has happened!?
I'm desperate to know and don't want to have this damn thing bricked! Please help.. try explain like I'm 5, as said I'm new to a lot of this! >.<
first off, if the screen comes on, its not bricked.
esenfur said:
But here is where **** hits the fan.
The device needed to update, It took me back to 4.4.2 but Im unsure on how to get back to most up to date OS and keep the root.
But when I reboot to install this, it goes into TWRP. no other way around this.
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Do you mean you accepted an official OTA? I think that is what you are saying. You should not be accepting OTAs on a phone that has been bootloader unlocked, custom recovery, etc. unless you know exactly what you are doing and what the result will be (which is clearly not the case).
Stock recovery is needed to install an OTA. That is why it keeps going to TWRP, then it doesn't find stock recovery and reboots, hence the loop you are stuck in. Try to find the OTA file and delete it.
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first off, if the screen comes on, its not bricked.
Do you mean you accepted an official OTA? I think that is what you are saying. You should not be accepting OTAs on a phone that has been bootloader unlocked, custom recovery, etc. unless you know exactly what you are doing and what the result will be (which is clearly not the case).
Stock recovery is needed to install an OTA. That is why it keeps going to TWRP, then it doesn't find stock recovery and reboots, hence the loop you are stuck in. Try to find the OTA file and delete it.
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Thank you for fast response.
Official OTA - being that the phone its self said "Update the OS" - I just accepted this, hit download and began install as a reboot- didnt spot implications. As said, noob, followed a tut. If it highlighted DO NOT UPDATE or.. IF U WANT UPDATE NOW FOLLOW THIS- Great, but nothing of the sort?
Is the OTA file basically the .exe for the OS- so find it and delete it.. although I dont have enough time to navigate and establish where the file actually is located!
Or do you have any links to tutorials I could possibly follow?
Side note- when this loop started I deleted
esenfur said:
Or do you have any links to tutorials I could possibly follow?
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This is really your main issue. By following a YouTube video and using a Toolkit, you've failed to actually learn anything or gain any real understanding or knowledge. Do yourself a favor and ditch the tutorials and videos (and toolkit for that matter) and do it the old fashioned way . . . by reading. Videos and step-by-step guides do you no good when things go south (as you've now discovered). And with the prior proper knowledge (usually not gained by following tutorials) this whole mess probably would have never happened in the first place.
A cardinal rule of Android phone modding: DO NOT accept/download/install OTAs (official OS updates) on a modded device unless you know what you are doing, and what the result will be. If in any doubt, simply DO NOT do it.
esenfur said:
Is the OTA file basically the .exe for the OS- so find it and delete it.. although I dont have enough time to navigate and establish where the file actually is located!
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.exe file is Windows specific. You are looking for a zip file, and it typically starts with "OTA". Don't remember where its saved to, so you will have to search for it. If you can't keep the phone running long enough to do so, mount the memory on your computer and search that way.
Deleting the OTA file worked for me on a past device, although one M8 user in the same position said deleting the file didn't get him out of the loop. Flashing your ROM again, or wiping the internal memory (backup any important personal data first) might be options for you.
redpoint73 said:
you've failed to actually learn anything or gain any real understanding or knowledge.
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Ive seen quite a fair few ratings for Hasoon2000 and decided to go with it..
redpoint73 said:
Videos and step-by-step guides do you no good when things go south (as you've now discovered).
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agreed.. theres FAR much more I need to learn.. its scary haha.
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DO NOT accept/download/install OTAs (official OS updates)
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taken on board. I know with my jailbreaks in past it has been a pain, assumed Android would be alot more stable to over write- due to functionality of OS and unlocked features.
I was being generic when I said .exe- basically the installer..
I returned from work to see phone stopped looping.. i could stop the install and deleted the file ASAP.. but now what.. Phone is still bugging me to update, lost the root(got a checker).. so whats the correct procedure!?
I am confused to what you are trying to accomplish at this point, is it to install a OTA, or a recovery? What exactly is going down here?
Me personally to take an OTA is to relock bootloader, install stock recovery, and make sure CID matches. I am S-Off so bootloader means very little, but you can unlock and relock at will when you are S-Off. You will not lose S-Off accepting an OTA.
Try to re-flash the ROM, with stok ROM, using TWRP and clean install. It should work.
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I am confused to what you are trying to accomplish at this point, is it to install a OTA, or a recovery? What exactly is going down here?
Me personally to take an OTA is to relock bootloader, install stock recovery, and make sure CID matches. I am S-Off so bootloader means very little, but you can unlock and relock at will when you are S-Off. You will not lose S-Off accepting an OTA.
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I am trying to update the phone, root and then some..
What file am I looking for and how do I flash a ROM on a M8
esenfur said:
I am trying to update the phone, root and then some..
What file am I looking for and how do I flash a ROM on a M8
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First of all once the bootloader is unlocked you don't have to relock it to get OTA.
As I undersand you have done the following:
1) Unlock using HTCDev-Method
2) flashed a custom revocery (TWRP in your case)
3) flashed a supersu too!?
To install the OTA means loosing root acces. Thus you have to re-root it after the OTA is done. The other problem ist that STOCK OTAs don't work with a custom recovery. Meaning you would have to flash a stock recovery first, install the OTA second (as long as you didn't change anything an just root), and re-root third.
Let's have a look which stock recovery you would need:
1) reboot to bootloader
2) connect the phone to you PC and open cmd in you adb/fastboot folder
3) enter "fastboot getvar all"
4) paste this information here (but DELETE the IMEI and SERIAL NUMBER before posting!!)
As soon as we know which stock recovery you need we will go on.
esenfur said:
Ive seen quite a fair few ratings for Hasoon2000 and decided to go with it..
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I'm not saying there is anything "wrong" with the toolkit, per se. For the most part, it does what its intended to do.
But it also shortcuts the learning process, and facilitates folks rooting the phone without gaining the proper knowledge. This is a dangerous thing.
This is just my opinion. But I strongly believe it. If you can't accomplish these things without a toolkit, you shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
Others use the toolkits, and love them. They are more than entitled to have their own opinion. But when things go south, the toolkits aren't going to help; and those folks don't have the proper knowledge and they come running here. So you tell me what is the "best" way to root the phone?
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I was being generic when I said .exe- basically the installer..
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I already figured this was probably the case. But I found it better to provide the exact information on what file to delete; rather than leaving it open to the possibility of you and/or others being misinformed.
esenfur said:
Phone is still bugging me to update, lost the root(got a checker).. so whats the correct procedure!?
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Sounds like you still have TWRP installed, so just flash SU or SuperSU to gain root.
After that, you can use Titanium Backup or similar app to find the update process and freeze it, to stop the update notifications.
Don't remember the exact process (this is where searching and reading comes in for you) but its something like "drm..." or "updater".
I have this situation before,what i do is find the right stock recovery and flash..after ota done flash back custom recovery..?
esenfur said:
I am trying to update the phone, root and then some..
What file am I looking for and how do I flash a ROM on a M8
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At this point after seeing this, I would suggest you take some time and start reading. All of your answers are here in the forums. Knowledge is power and within the pages of this site you will find everything you need.
To take the OTA find a stock recovery, to flash ROM's find the one you like and flash via your favorite recovery.
Hello everyone!
I just don't get it. Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between flashing a bumped rom and flashing the same rom un-bumped? I just don't get the whole point of it! Sorry, but coming from a Nexus device (why have I ever changed!!!) I'm new to these things.
So, other questions would be: what's the point of bumping? What if I don't do it and just go about the usual way: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing a custom recovery and then proceed to flash the appropriate and preferred rom, kernel, etc?
Hope somebody will bear with me and try to explain these things to a newcomer
Thanks
astrovale said:
Hello everyone!
I just don't get it. Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between flashing a bumped rom and flashing the same rom un-bumped? I just don't get the whole point of it! Sorry, but coming from a Nexus device (why have I ever changed!!!) I'm new to these things.
So, other questions would be: what's the point of bumping? What if I don't do it and just go about the usual way: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing a custom recovery and then proceed to flash the appropriate and preferred rom, kernel, etc?
Hope somebody will bear with me and try to explain these things to a newcomer
Thanks
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Because
1) Bumping is used to trick the bootloader into thinking that the boot.img is authentic and from Official LG Sources
2) Without bumping you could have to constantly run fastboot boot boot.img (an example of this was CM11 when it first started development)
3) Bootloader cant be unlocked at this time so we rely on a bootloader exploit in order to run custom recovery
4) Its all about the authenticity. If the LG bootloader does its security checks and anything fails then the system doesnt boot
Thanks for the very easy tuo understand explanation. I should have thought that the problem was unlocking the bootloader! Guess I'll have to with the Flow and bump my new phone. I wish I asked my Carrier for an HTC M8
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simple answer: bump is the only way to unlock g3 bootloader.
all roms are bumped whether displaying [BUMPED] or not.
rhystagram said:
simple answer: bump is the only way to unlock g3 bootloader.
all roms are bumped whether displaying [BUMPED] or not.
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Ok, so by simple logic, once I have installed, either via bump, flashify or ADB a recovery, I can pretty much flash any rom that is appropriate for my model no, isn't it?
So there is one more question I have: what is the purpose of unlocking the bootloader and then what could be the problems if I don't? If everything I flash for this device (TWRP, roms, kernels, etc) is, by default, bumped, what's the purpose of installing bump at all?
astrovale said:
Ok, so by simple logic, once I have installed, either via bump, flashify or ADB a recovery, I can pretty much flash any rom that is appropriate for my model no, isn't it?
So there is one more question I have: what is the purpose of unlocking the bootloader and then what could be the problems if I don't? If everything I flash for this device (TWRP, roms, kernels, etc) is, by default, bumped, what's the purpose of installing bump at all?
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You're making it so much harder for yourself dude.. There really is only one way to install custom ROMs and that is by Bumping your phone. That's it.
You go here and read the entire topic. Don't miss a single thing.
Then go here and flash the zip for the latest TWRP.
After that you can install any ROM in the OG and Android Development section.
That's all there is to it. You can read in those topics for more information about what they do.
if you dont bump, then you wont have twrp lol.
you cant flash any roms anyway, you'll potentially brick/soft brick your phone.
roms etc are bumped because they have a patch script implanted to run on the phones correctly.
rhystagram said:
if you dont bump, then you wont have twrp lol.
you cant flash any roms anyway, you'll potentially brick/soft brick your phone.
roms etc are bumped because they have a patch script implanted to run on the phones correctly.
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OK. Got it! It took a while, but I give up!
Thanks for the help. Coming from the most easy to play with phones (only Nexus so far, but I hate the N6), it isn't easy to have to deal with more stuff than usually needed and hence more complications than usually had.
I thought that, after rooting I could flash TWRP via flashify or rom toolbox and then I would have TWRP without BUMP, but it must be that I'm missing something, if you say I MUST bump my phone to install TWRP.
Thanks and see you around
How to bump lg g3
DevilFan14 said:
How to bump lg g3
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What exactly do you mean "How to bump"??? Bump and loki are bootloader exploits that allowed us to boot TWRP and all the benefits TWRP offers... On the user side of things you don't "Bump" anything- the Roms, Kernels, and recoveries are "pre-bumped" by the developers and 99.9% of the time they will say whether or not it is "bumped" or "lokied" although loki is really outdated and I doubt you'll encounter it. So in a nutshell we(the user) doesn't "Bump" anything and just make sure to really read before flashing
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Hi,
terribly sorry to bother you guys!
I recently bought an M9 (Belgium, no carrier) and rooted it with the help of this youtube video /watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk
works fine, it's rooted.
The thing is: i did updates before doing the root, as i unlocked bootloader everything was lost/deleted, at the time (4a.m), with my brain half asleep i didn't think about doing the updates again before performing the actual root. Now i keep getting the "system update available" message and can't get rid of it.
It'll keep popping up every few hours, obviously i can't install them because i arrive back at twrp recovery.
Android version 5.0.2
Kernel version 3.10.49-g5c16a62
I turned software updates off in the "about" section in settings, to no avail. I keep getting the message that updates are available. Downloading them and then proceeding to remove the downloaded files don't solve it.
I'm a total noob at this, but (hopefully) not a complete idiot. If there are any steps i can take to get rid of this constantly popping up, please advise me:fingers-crossed:
There's more than one possibility to proceed. Could you provide the output of the "htc_fastboot getvar all" command, when M9 is in download mode (without IMEI and Serial no.). I'd like to point you into the right direction.
Send by the swarm intelligence of my coffee machine ?.
Thanks for taking the time!
It's in download mode, i've got my command prompt open but it says "htc_fastboot is not recognized as an internal or external command, program or batchfile"
In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
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shivadow said:
In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
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*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.
Fatimiyye said:
*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.
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Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.
iElvis said:
Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.
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Thank you very much man. I'm gonna learn up first, and then take your advice and head to the general forum.
For all other noobs who are desperate to catch up, this is helping me out quite a bit:
http://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-and-some-root-terminology.353591/ => Terminology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk => Unlock bootloader and root the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979 => This helps to install ADB/fastboot/drivers
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/ => some info about s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59745198&postcount=3 => HTC One M9 FAQ
Edit: OH, AND THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
FFS, WATCH THAT ONE!
Just in case anyone has the same issue (i like to end on a positive note =D ) :
The easiest working solution i found for the issue is to go to the Apps management (Settings, apps), go to "All", select "Updater" and then clear data.
No pop ups so far.
Credit for this goes to moderator Earlymon from androidforums
Guys I am kind of screwed here, could you help me out?
Ok so I wanted to root my HTC one m8 and flash a custom rom on it (the sky dragon one, but that is irrelevant). So I looked up a video on youtube called; "how to root you htc one m8 **made easy** " and everything went well (it did take me about 3 hours... I am not a proud man right now...), until I had to install a custom rom. I wiped my phone, cache etc. (including phone storage) and here's where I start to notice my failure. I don't exactly know what steps I did and where exactly everything went wrong, but basically this is what I've got to work with: -a htc one m8 that gets stuck on the htc boot-up screen -roms complaining about missing md5 files and verification error or something -and last but not least; a very concerned owner who, after about 7hours of non-stop trying, is pretty desperate for help...
right now is there anyone who could help me with this, it would mean a lot to me (and my phone)
Edit: I remember where exactly my phone got stuck in the boot-up htc screen; it was right after I rooted my phone, but supersu said it was missing binary files or something. I installed, according to the guy from the video this woul fix it, supersu version 2.4 updater or something, and from that point the phone would't get past the boot-up screen. Again: any help is, at this point, very very veerryy appreciated
abramo2001 said:
I looked up a video on youtube called; "how to root you htc one m8 **made easy** " and everything went well (it did take me about 3 hours... I am not a proud man right now...)
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Beware of such Youtube tutorial videos. I normally advise against using them. They often contain outdated information that can easily screw you up. And even more important, they are often used to shortcut the learning process, spoon-feeding you the steps in a way that pretty much means you won't learn anything; and leave you high and dry without the proper knowledge, when things inevitably do south.
Word to the wise: read, learn and understand before trying anything else. I know XDA can be a bit intimidating (like trying to drink out of a firehose, as one new member phrased it). But all the information is here, for those willing to take the time to read and learn.
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Ok so I wanted to root my HTC one m8 and flash a custom rom on it (the sky dragon one, but that is irrelevant).
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Its completely relevant and important what ROM and version number you tried to install. Skydragon GPE or Sense? And what version number?
abramo2001 said:
Edit: I remember where exactly my phone got stuck in the boot-up htc screen; it was right after I rooted my phone, but supersu said it was missing binary files or something. I installed, according to the guy from the video this woul fix it, supersu version 2.4 updater or something, and from that point the phone would't get past the boot-up screen
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Not clear from your description when you tried to root. But its probably at least part of the problem. You don't need to root if you are installing a custom ROM. You don't need to root in order to flash it (just an unlocked bootloader, and custom recovery), and you don't need to root after flashing, as all the custom ROMs are already pre-rooted.
For further help, we'll need more info on the phone. If you know how to use fastboot, do a fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete your IMEI and serial number before posting). If you don't know how to use fastboot . . . well, time to start reading.
Also, need to know what TWRP version, and SuperSU version you tried.
redpoint73 said:
Beware of such Youtube tutorial videos. I normally advise against using them. They often contain outdated information that can easily screw you up. And even more important, they are often used to shortcut the learning process, spoon-feeding you the steps in a way that pretty much means you won't learn anything; and leave you high and dry without the proper knowledge, when things inevitably do south.
Word to the wise: read, learn and understand before trying anything else. I know XDA can be a bit intimidating (like trying to drink out of a firehose, as one new member phrased it). But all the information is here, for those willing to take the time to read and learn.
Its completely relevant and important what ROM and version number you tried to install. Skydragon GPE or Sense? And what version number?
Not clear from your description when you tried to root. But its probably at least part of the problem. You don't need to root if you are installing a custom ROM. You don't need to root in order to flash it (just an unlocked bootloader, and custom recovery), and you don't need to root after flashing, as all the custom ROMs are already pre-rooted.
For further help, we'll need more info on the phone. If you know how to use fastboot, do a fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete your IMEI and serial number before posting). If you don't know how to use fastboot . . . well, time to start reading.
Also, need to know what TWRP version, and SuperSU version you tried.
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Thank you very much for your help and in the future I will definetly do some more research before doing this ind of stuff, but I EXTREMELY glad to tell you: I FIXED IT . I googled and googled and all in all it probably took me around 15 hours, but I installed the marshmallow stock gpe rom for my phone via fastboot and after about 70 tries, learning and googling along the way, it worked. I don't know what went wrong the first time I tried (with the rooting), but everything is fully functional right now and my battery life, along with my free storage (bloat used to take up around 4 gigs), has improved significantly. I really really appreciate your response and I wil certainly be more careful in the future. Also, am I now allowed to call myself a "hacker"? I am right? . Have a great day; android is masterrace!
abramo2001 said:
I googled and googled and all in all it probably took me around 15 hours, but I installed the marshmallow stock gpe rom for my phone via fastboot and after about 70 tries, learning and googling along the way, it worked. I don't know what went wrong the first time I tried (with the rooting), but everything is fully functional right now
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Probably could have cut down on the amount of time finding the problem, and the reason root failed; if you had provided the info requested in my last post. My last post was meant to be taken "post the required info, and we'll help you more". But glad you sorted it out, anyway; and you're welcome and glad to have helped in whatever way you found useful.
I'd also suggest sticking to XDA search function for these types of mods (or at least, reputable mod websites). Googling random websites will often lead to outdated info; and the info is often stolen from XDA, anyway.
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
Edit: I'm using a lexar 128gb 633x U1 micro sd and all is well. Worked with adoptable storage also but felt a little sluggish so I went back to using it as external storage.
AndroiderM said:
I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
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Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3
Locklear308 said:
Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version
AndroiderM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version
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Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man
Locklear308 said:
Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man
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No problem, mine has two scratches on metal too lol but guy gave me $200 and unlocked htc 10 w uh oh protection and original receipt for my s7e at&t branded locked bootloader ?. Was a no brainer for me
Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.
purple patch said:
I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.
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Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!
Locklear308 said:
Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!
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I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.
DroidIt! said:
I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.
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Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help
Locklear308 said:
Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help
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Hey, I'm not sure about firmware not being able to be rooted but the best way to go about it (what I did anyway) is to unlock the phone via htcdev.com, flash a custom recovery (Latest TWRP which has also worked around the encryption stuff?) and then back up everything other than the data partition. That way, no matter what you do, you always have something to revert back to. The reason for not backing up data is due to the encryption. From my understanding, restoring an encrypted data partition would break things. Once you have the phone unlocked and recovery sorted, you are free to flash viper etc. and root the phone using SuperSU. I'm sure you are aware unlocked devices are quite easy to root so whatever you flash will most likely be on latest firmware, already rooted.
As for installing OTAs etc., you need unmodified system and recovery which is where the backups kick in. Simply back up your data on an SD card (pictures etc. not the actual partition) and restore the system-image and recovery. This should reset the phone although I'm not sure if it'll wipe anything and allow you to do OTA updates. Alternatively, get the latest firmware for your device from htcdev (again, not sure if they have firmware on there) and use that instead.
If any of the information above is incorrect or missing steps, someone feel free to correct me.