I use an always on display like the s7s on my oneplus 3 (using the glance plus app). I keep it on even throughout the night. I've read about AMOLED burn in on the web. Is it something to worry about?
This is what the always on screen is like
I mean...Amoled burn in was a real thing on my GNexus and Nexus 6 so I'd expect it to come into play at some point.
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I mean...Amoled burn in was a real thing on my GNexus and Nexus 6 so I'd expect it to come into play at some point.
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Hmm
Approximately how much time did it take for it to be significantly visible??
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Approximately how much time did it take for it to be significantly visible??
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Dude, it's nonsense, don't worry about it. Even if you were to somehow keep the phone for a decade, I don't think that it would matter much. I used to be all paranoid about it with my S3, and to this day it's something that I haven't noticed assuming it's even there.
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In the past 4 years I've owned 5 different phones, of which 4 were AMOLED and I didn't have burn in on any of them.
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Burn in problems with amoled displays usually come in play after 2 to 3 years of usage. My old S3 has some solid burn in problems but they were only visible after a couple of years. After the S3 non of my phones had amoled displays unfortunately. Nexus 5 > Oneplus 2
I would not recommend that always on scheme you have.
I have owned several AMOLED phones since 2010 and not one of them has showed signs of burn-in, but I never had always on features running and would always use the lowest screen brightness possible for the situation at the time.
I had a Moto X 2014 and the navigationbar has burned in after only one year. I recommend you to stay away from apps like this and to use the capasative buttons
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I had a Moto X 2014 and the navigationbar has burned in after only one year. I recommend you to stay away from apps like this and to use the capasative buttons
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I had several amoled devices since the release of an amoled phone. I only had 1 burn in (nexus 6) which took about 6mos. on my s6, 6p and note 5 I don't have it yet. lol
don't worry about it. what irritates me on some amoled screen is the uneven hues.
Hmm i think its better not to use an always on display. Thanks everyone for your suggestions...
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I use an always on display like the s7s on my oneplus 3 (using the glance plus app). I keep it on even throughout the night. I've read about AMOLED burn in on the web. Is it something to worry about?
This is what the always on screen is like
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It was a thing of past galaxy s and s2 used to have that now amoled technology has enhanced it no longer burns i had s4 with same image on it for over 3 hours it has no burn-ins :good:
just use your op3 as a normal lcd display worry about anything.
Nevertheless with ambient display and possibility to wake up by waving above detector I don't see the point of permanent display on, except if docked, but there too there are special features in Rom.
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Burn-in is definitely a 'thing'. I don't ever use screen on, but I had burn-in on my Note 3 after 3 years, where the notification bar is probably in various other places that were constantly on. It wasn't overly noticeable because the notification bar is pretty much always there.
Personally I wouldn't worry about it. If you find it burns in enough to bother you, buy and fit a new screen. :good:
Had a nexus 6 for a year and a half prior to this phone. No burn in at all...not even the nav bar.
I've had burn in with every amoled phone I've used, usually the top bar with the clock there is a definitive line where the screen is brighter.
LEDs fade over time, at different rates, depending on several factors including temperature and time they are lit. There may be ways to minimize this, but its true for all LEDs regardless what form factor they are in.
I've seen Android make advancements to make this better, from auto hiding the clock/status bar to changing the color of the status bar depending on the colors of the apps being used, using dark themes (which also helps with battery life). Honestly, I don't worry about screen burn in - what are the chances you are going to be using the same phone in 5 years? Hell, even 2 years? Chances are there will be scuff, dent, and wear marks on your phone before burn in becomes an issue, and by the time it does you will be looking at an upgrade anyways.
I never faced it in any AMOLED device I saw. My S3 from june 2012 has no burn at all, and also devices of friends with amoled are working great after years.
I have a slight burn-in on my old SGS2 on the upper screen bar. None on SGS4 mini, Nokia Lumia 735 or SGS5. But it definitely exists
"Burn in" is inherent to the technology, unless some of the naysayers think they know more than the manufacturers themselves, however how fast you get it is dependent on your usage, brightness and temperatures. Oleds degrade at varying rates depending on color, blue has the least lifespan. So areas with the whites or blues that are constantly lit will wear out the blue Oleds significantly faster than red or green giving you a color shift. It's more like a fade out than a "burn in". It's not like image retention on LCDs which is reversible. It's common on display models at BestBuy etc within like a month because they leave the screens on 24/7 at full brightness. A regular user probably won't see it until 2-3 years of usage. I've had 2 AMOLED phones in my family, a Galaxy S and an S4 and only noticed it on the S4 on its second year but was barely visible.
TLDR: Burn in is very real, however don't worry too much, unless you use you phone at max brightness 12+ hrs a day with the same image on the screen like a display model... Which you wouldn't.
Take burn in serious
Based on my first hand experience, burn in is a serious problem. I own a moto z and never used always-on function. Yet after only four months of routine usage, My device's display has turned considerably yellowish in showing white and neutral tones and also has a ghost of navigation bar which is more visible when showing blue tones.
The blue LEDs deteriorate much faster than the other LEDs, making the screen yellowish and show traces of what was on screen for long periods of time. Like the status and navigation bars.
there are some mods or ROMs that provide burn in protection by moving pixels slightly every few minutes i think.
dont know how well that works actually, just sharing.
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Hi all.
Last night I accidentally discovered the burnt pixels on my one year old Focus screen The sights of high contrasts Metro-style icons (such as IE, phone and marketplace) are visible on the white background as a darker "shadows" (actual color is like a light-light yellow, close to white). These "shadows" are visible on the white background in the dark only.
It's not a big deal but I'm kinda disappointed
So, my conclusions are:
- high contrasts Metro-style tiles on the home screen are evil, at least for AMOLED screens. However live tiles (probably) can solve the issue (he-he, just thought - may be it's a real reason why MS implemented and pushing live tiles? Kidding );
- periodical changing of tile location on the home screen also can help;
- using AMOLED handsets for development is not so good. The best practice is to keep AMOLED screens off all the time (what is not acceptable for development).
My Focus is one year old, but I don't have any burn in problems some reported. Granted, I don't leave my phone screen on for extended periods, but my live tile arrangement really never changed.
Now that I have the HTC Titan, I have no regrets with the SLCD screen. The colors seem more natural to me. While AMOLED screens certainly have a "pop" factor, it's not a must-have for me.
This is a well known issue that you have to live with: AMOLED will get screen burn-in if it is use for an extend period of time.
I know most of the Android Galaxy phones also have screen burn-in especially on the status bar.
My own Samsung Focus developed screen burn-in (esp. Metro buttons) after only three months of use.
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This is a well known issue that you have to live with: AMOLED will get screen burn-in if it is use for an extend period of time.
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How about Super AMOLED screens, is problem still persists?
I notice things on my Omnia 7. Normally if i've had a menu open for a minute or more and i switch to a black background i can see a kind of greyish imprint of the last displayed icons.
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SAMOLED has it as well. I'm sure it was a big issue in the focus forums last year
The biggest disadvantage of an amoled screen is when you move to another type of screen, and notice just how gray blacks can be. Using my old focus and having the blacks blend with the bezel was so visually pleasing, and the colors had so much pop. I hear that the colors aren't as accurate, but what does that mean really? 90% of what I look at on a phone is arbitrary colors anyway; how would I ever know that the blue tiles are really supposed to be one shade vs. another, and why would I care?
(btw yes, I had the same screen burn-in problem on my focus)
Yeah i had a major burn in problem with my Omnia 7, I think it was something to do with the bright blue theme i used, i have pictures here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973337
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Wow... I had no idea of this...
I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
Is this a really wide spread problem?
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I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
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Try to look at your screen in darkness (set white background on the fullscreen first), then say "luckily"
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The problem is particularly bad on Super AMOLED screens.
Super AMOLED is still AMOLED.
My Vibrant, if I turn my screen on to the home screen and let it sit there for 10 seconds and then open another app, I can see the shadows on the home screen superimposed onto the app that's running. It's very noticeable, and gets irksome after a while. You won't see that on LCD screens.
The status bar is burnt in, which is noticeable when the phone is used in landscape mode because you can always see that faint strip where the status bar is (in portrait) on the side of the screen.
I set my screen timeout to 30 seconds to "preserve" the screen.
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Wow... I had no idea of this...
I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
Is this a really wide spread problem?
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All of Samsung's displays have this issue. Perhaps you just haven't noticed it, or are just fortunate
Not really widespread, and not really a "problem" per se. Just a component of the screen tech. It burns in and shadows easily.
However they have better power management than LCD screens and better brightness, viewing angles, and outdoor visibility - as well as better color saturation and reproduction. For example, I increase my Vibrant's stock battery life by like 4+ hours doing absolutely nothing but putting a true black background on the launcher...
It's a trade-off. It's worth it for someone like you who doesn't notice it, though. It's worth it even for some people who do. It really depends on how long you keep your phone, Lol. If you upgrade yearly it's not that big a deal. I can't see myself going 2 years with the Vibrant as my primary device and dealing with it, though. It's too startling to look at at times, especially after you spend a significant amount of time in one app with static UI elements and move to something else...
If you look at the AMOLED technology, it's understandable really. All the colours displayed on the screen are composed of green, red and blue sub-pixels.
In an AMOLED screen, there is no backlighting. The sub-pixels themselves generate the visible light, hence why the blacks are so black, because the black pixels are not powered on. (Think of an AMOLED screen as having thousands of tiny tiny LED's)
However the problem with AMOLED is the manufacturers could not produce a specific chemical compound for each colour that would wear evenly. For example, the blue sub pixel has a shorter lifespan than the green. When the AMOLED sub-pixels gets used, the intensity of light produced decreases, hence there is uneven wear. The pentile arrangement was to actually arrange the pixels in a way, which as the display wears, the colours look normal. When there are static pixels displayed, a certain portion of sub pixels gets used more than others, hence why you can notice it.
In an LCD, each sub-pixel is a polarizing filter, which filters out either red/blue/green and displays it or blocks it, so an LCD doesn't suffer from screen burn in as much as AMOLED and PLASMA displays.
From day one I have only ever used my phone on the lowest setting and I have alternated every few days from red/green tiles. I have never used blue due to the low lifespan of blues!!
I don't think it's a huge problem if you are smart. I made the mistake of leaving my screen on as often as possible when I first got my focus. Once I started noticing the burn in, I moved my tiles around, put my screen on 2 minute timeout, and didn't notice any more of the burn in. Just the original images.
As Big K mentions, blue pixels are the quickest to degrade, that is why you never use a blue theme with an AMOLED display. Also, displaying white actually activates some blue pixels and draws more power, so the black system theme should always be used over white.
Every AMOLED owner should know these 2 things and it is a shame that Samsung and the carriers don't do a better job of informing their customers of these simple facts.
I cringe every time I see an AMOLED phone with a white background and blue theme.
This is why I still stick to Super LCD.
I saw an S2 get a burn in within 2 months of use. Lawl.
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The solution is ridiculously obvious: turn off your screen when you're done using the phone. Duh. That's obvious from a simple battery life perspective.
Of course, I see people *constantly* who just set their phones down with the screen on and walk away. Idiots.
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The solution is ridiculously obvious: turn off your screen when you're done using the phone. Duh. That's obvious from a simple battery life perspective.
Of course, I see people *constantly* who just set their phones down with the screen on and walk away. Idiots.
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The solution is not ridiculously obvious because other screen types do not suffer from thsi issue, therefor the user who moves from an LCD screen to an AMOLED has absolutely no clue that this screen type has these deficiencies. They simply assume their screen will always look the way it does as long as they take care of their phone.
That is not a bad assumption. It just doesn't jive with this display tech.
I love the deep blacks and color saturation on Samsung's AMOLED screens, but I don't think I can ever convince myself to get another one.
The issue isn't just keeping the screen on. I've always used a 30 second screen time-out on all my phones, so they aren't just sitting there a ton with an image on them. Even when you have something on the screen for like 10 seconds and move to another app you can see the image shadows on the screen. Yes, it gets pretty noticeable after a while to the point where it's constantly drawing your attention.
It's actually worse than the PenTile they use in the 1st gen SAMOLED screens, TBH.
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The solution is not ridiculously obvious because other screen types do not suffer from thsi issue, therefor the user who moves from an LCD screen to an AMOLED has absolutely no clue that this screen type has these deficiencies. They simply assume their screen will always look the way it does as long as they take care of their phone.
That is not a bad assumption. It just doesn't jive with this display tech.
I love the deep blacks and color saturation on Samsung's AMOLED screens, but I don't think I can ever convince myself to get another one.
The issue isn't just keeping the screen on. I've always used a 30 second screen time-out on all my phones, so they aren't just sitting there a ton with an image on them. Even when you have something on the screen for like 10 seconds and move to another app you can see the image shadows on the screen. Yes, it gets pretty noticeable after a while to the point where it's constantly drawing your attention.
It's actually worse than the PenTile they use in the 1st gen SAMOLED screens, TBH.
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1st gen? It's being used in the Galaxy Nexus, too
It's a really useful point to raise, and something to think about for people using their phones for development. Automatic screen time-outs can be an annoyance when you're testing features (against a real device), and wanting to stay connected (in visual studio) to the phone for debugging info and deployment. I know I have my current phone on most of the day to test tile and page updates etc. so there's bound to be large areas of the screen remaining static for long periods of time.
It's made me think twice about getting a Lumia (which I assume would be prone too) for this reason
I'm surprised manufactures don't include info on it bundled with the phones (e.g. on not having a white background) - that's pretty irresponsible.
Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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Take a photo and post it please.
Mine does too, mighty thanks to amoled
This is going to happen regardless of what you do.
Acceptance is key
Can someone post a picture? I would like to see what all the fuss is about.
By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar they mean the soft keys (Home - Menu - Recent - Back) buttons on the bottom.
Oh, in that case I haven't seen that problem but I have heard of people with it. You can get rid of those soft-keys with custom mods too that makes your phone full-screen.
I noticed this on my Gnex as well. Rotating the screen clockwise to a landscape orientation, the left side of my screen where the soft buttons were has a notably bluer tint. For the record, I keep my screen on auto, which I was hoping would reduce the burn-in effect. Setting the screen brightness to 100% seems to hide the burn-in. Dunno if that will always be true.
Even worse, when I did a screen compare of my previous Nexus vs the display model at the Verizon store back in early Jan, the demo model's screen was noticeably dimmer and off color even at full brightness. Seemed like running in torch mode 24/7 with a bright red background caused the screen to degrade noticeably after only a week or so.
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The only time I notice any sort of image retention (relating to the notification bar) is when I first open the XDA app and it quickly goes full screen. Other than that I never see it. However, I commonly see image retention going from home screen to Market but it fades very quickly.
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Mine as well as my friend's has burn-in at the top and bottom where the status bar is and the soft buttons. Also my old nexus S as well as my friend's has burn in at the top status bar. It's inevitable I guess...
I started seeing this too but i quickly switched to transparent top and bottom bars so that those pixels got even wear, and it actually reversed my burn in mostly. My screen is near perfect now.
this happen to me, too. it sucks. can this be exchanged in person somewhere instead of shipping it? i don't want to wait.
Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Exactly right. But the term burn in is so familiar to people it will likely never change.
I forgot to say that to eliminate this burn in i also use full screen browser at all times to hide the status bar. And i consistently rotate the screen to different views while i read my webpages to give the other pixels a rest. The effect is excellent.
To test this the best, install dead pixel detect from market and toggle thru every color. Rotate the screen too to see both areas. The color red is the only one that shows the burn in for me. Which is strange cause blue is the weak color that wears out the quickest. But my blue looks fine.
This will probably happen to all of us to some degree sooner or later.
The image retention that lasts 1-3 seconds we might see within a month or two usage is actually one of the characteristics of AMOLED "Ghosting effect"
which is not the same as AMOLED "reverse led fatigue" (or although technically incorrect but more widely understood term "Burn-ins") which maybe seen as permanent image retention shown as yellowish outlines of icons / keyboard outlines, etc.
Sadly, there's really nothing you can do about this problem after the fact, except to change the screen itself if it is really bothersome. Or you may try to change/delete/make transparent of the permanently placed icons/other objects/pictures to try to reverse these effects.
The only preventive measures would be changing screen rotation from vertical to horizontal, and make sure you don't have the screen on at a stay still image (preferably set auto screen off to 30seconds or so.)
It is humorous how particular many people are about "pocket" screens. Oled technology in reality is like the merger of lcd and plasma screens. And oled does get image retention and burn in similar to plasma. It is harder to avoid on a cell phone with so many possibilities of static images. Really though, it is good to mention/complaint about it so it gets attention and oled manufacturers try to improve upon the technology and try to minimize or get rid of the issues altogether. Many people still think plasmas get burn in very easily and that is far from the truth. The last 3 years or so Panasonic and Samsung have made great strides in minimizing the possibility and you see very few complaints about it. And it is even more humorous that many people think lcd technology is better for viewing because it is newer than plasma when the exact opposite is true. LCD technology is older than plasma, and aside from power usage and weight, lcd doesn't have many benefits over plasma. And because of the post processing to try and overcome the deficiencies of lcd viewing lcd screens are closing the gap in power consumption with plasma. But yeah, all you can do about the image retention of oled now is put pressure on samsung and lg and any newcomers to the technology to improve it. Hopefully, oled will overcome its shortcomings to lcd and plasma and be the better tech out of all three in the near future. I wish they made laptops with plasma screens. That would be an awesome option for laptop users that use theirs as desktop replacements like myself.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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All my pixels are fine but I notice the notification bar retention on brown with the XDA app and I notice the bottom (whatever it's called bar) on grey from the app you suggested. Either way, I still love the phone!!!
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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I don't. Out of curiosity I tried that app out after reading about it on this thread.
I had before Note and it was burninng in! Things like keyboard or status bar, now I'm afraid to use my Note 2 because I don't want to have burn-in things on my screen :/ So will galaxy note 2 burn-in? They said the new screen in Note 2 is non-pentile ,so.. it will be burn-in proof ? (rethorical question)
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Yes with the time it will have burn-in as all amoled screens.
I had my note 1 for a year and I was worried about the screen being damaged with screen burn. I kept the brightness down to a low to medium level and found no noticable wear on the screen after a year. The brighter and more vibrant your screen settings are set on the faster your screen will suffer.
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All AMOLED screens suffer from burn in, it's a matter of when but with caution you can prevent it. My SGS2 with RGB non Pentile suffered from burn in after 11 months, likewise my sisters SGS2.
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It will burn in, but I've had my Note 1 for nearly 11 months now and I don't have any burn in, and I keep it on automatic brightness. But I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
My GS2 got bad burn-in from Navigation - I left the screen on all the time when driving.
I am now using a MIUI rom which lets me press the home button 4 times to invert screen colours. I use this on Navigation to try to balance it back out (the lighter middle section of the nav screen is where the burn occurred).
I use lowest btightness and little screen on time and in 6 to 9 mths i noticed it
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Ok so this is only my opinion.
This phone is awesome but very expensive. Some buy this phone with a 2 year contract so i think its really bad that screens on phones like this have screens that can burn in within a year.
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I had my note 1 for a year and I was worried about the screen being damaged with screen burn. I kept the brightness down to a low to medium level and found no noticable wear on the screen after a year. The brighter and more vibrant your screen settings are set on the faster your screen will suffer.
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I had exactly the same experience with my galaxy s and galaxy s2. I always kept the screens at low brightness, and never noticed any burn in. A friend of me who also had an S2 always had his brightness set very high, and at his phone I noticed there was some screen burn in when I looked at it.
So, now I have my note 2, and I am going to keep the brightness at a low level most of the time, so I don't expect any problems.
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Preventing AMOLED burn in
I've had the Samsung Moment (AMOLED), Epic 4G (Super AMOLED), and the Epic 4G Touch (Super AMOLED+).
I noticed burn-in on both the Moment and the Epic 4G due to long screen on times and high brightness. I used to leave the screen on during my 45 minute commute so the Pandora Controls and the status bar icons were easy to see on any white backgrounds. With my latest phone I use short screen on times and adjust the brightness as needed (using the status bar slider). I've also switched to dark backgrounds in an attempt to maximize battery life as well as prevent burn in. This phone is currently just over a year old and has no detectable burn in, as checked with a dead pixel app swapping the screen colors between red, green, blue, and white. I've also integrated smart stay to keep the screen on when I need it but shut it off when it's not being looked at.
So, YES! Amoleds will burn in. In order to prevent screen burn-in I suggest this:
Limit unnecessary screen on time ~burn in is directly related to how long the screen is on.
Use the correct brightness for your situation ~burn in is directly related to how bright the screen is.
Use dark vs lighted based themes ~black uses no pixels, can save battery, and prevent eye strain!
Auto-hide the notification bar, or change the time format frequently ~It's the first thing to burn-in since it's visible and in the same location regardless of what app you're running!
Consider using a screen filter app at night for an even dimmer screen ~It'll protect your eyes and your pixels.
To detect screen burn in you can use just about any dead pixel app. Burn in will be most visible when the screen is all WHITE or all BLUE although you may be able to see some burn in in RED or GREEN although those colors are less likely to help detection.
Replacement is the only real solution in order to correct screen burn in. If you replace your phone every year (like I do) it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. However, If you're stuck with your phone for 18-24 months than you should take burn-in prevention seriously!
is the screen replaceable and for how much?
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is the screen replaceable and for how much?
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Best would be a warranty repair. Otherwise you have to source the screen + digitizer so price will depend on that, then you'll have to do the teardown/ replace/ reassembly yourself:
This is sad, warranty should cover this, it´s so miserable that you must be this careful about usage of this pricey phone...
How do I Auto-hide the notification bar?
Also, how do I disable UMTS messages from a mobile phone carrier that sends occasional messages to notify the balance I have left on my prepaid card?
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I've had the Samsung Moment (AMOLED), Epic 4G (Super AMOLED), and the Epic 4G Touch (Super AMOLED+).
I noticed burn-in on both the Moment and the Epic 4G due to long screen on times and high brightness. I used to leave the screen on during my 45 minute commute so the Pandora Controls and the status bar icons were easy to see on any white backgrounds. With my latest phone I use short screen on times and adjust the brightness as needed (using the status bar slider). I've also switched to dark backgrounds in an attempt to maximize battery life as well as prevent burn in. This phone is currently just over a year old and has no detectable burn in, as checked with a dead pixel app swapping the screen colors between red, green, blue, and white. I've also integrated smart stay to keep the screen on when I need it but shut it off when it's not being looked at.
So, YES! Amoleds will burn in. In order to prevent screen burn-in I suggest this:
Limit unnecessary screen on time ~burn in is directly related to how long the screen is on.
Use the correct brightness for your situation ~burn in is directly related to how bright the screen is.
Use dark vs lighted based themes ~black uses no pixels, can save battery, and prevent eye strain!
Auto-hide the notification bar, or change the time format frequently ~It's the first thing to burn-in since it's visible and in the same location regardless of what app you're running!
Consider using a screen filter app at night for an even dimmer screen ~It'll protect your eyes and your pixels.
To detect screen burn in you can use just about any dead pixel app. Burn in will be most visible when the screen is all WHITE or all BLUE although you may be able to see some burn in in RED or GREEN although those colors are less likely to help detection.
Replacement is the only real solution in order to correct screen burn in. If you replace your phone every year (like I do) it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. However, If you're stuck with your phone for 18-24 months than you should take burn-in prevention seriously!
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So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
Just checked mine, and mine is fine, had my note 2 since launch day in the uk.
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I'd say it's impossible for a 2 month old device to have burnt in screen, especially with Note's 2 new pixel arrangement. Your screen might be defective to have burnt in so quickly. Also i don't think calibration could solve it - if those pixels are indeed burnt in, they're half-dead and you can't calibrate just a part of display.
Akiainavas said:
I'd say it's impossible for a 2 month old device to have burnt in screen, especially with Note's 2 new pixel arrangement. Your screen might be defective to have burnt in so quickly. Also i don't think calibration could solve it - if those pixels are indeed burnt in, they're half-dead and you can't calibrate just a part of display.
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To be fair it's been through some heavy use. For my Note 2 every day is like the day it came out of the box - The ride never ends
And don't mistake this as defective, because it is not. It is simply how oled works. Just from googling you can see that many S2 and S3 users are having this issue.
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BBlax said:
So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
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Crikey, have you been leaving it on for hours at a time always on the full brightness?
I rarely use mine outdoors so keep the brightness on the middle setting, or right down at the bottom in bed unless watching a video. No visible problems on mine.
BBlax said:
So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
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so far haven't noticed any issues on my note, but then i again i don't have a black status bar, my screen brightness is usually low, browser is always full screen, no sign of burn in so far.
maybe your using ur phone at max brightness as a bedtime clock everyday....
Well so far i havent had seen anything on mine either and i use it alot. Ive always knew about this with the oled screens. So i looked it up about the life. Wiki says 14000hours of life for the blue and thats minimum, with new tech probly alot more now. So take 14000hours for 24 hours a day. thats 1.6 years of having the screen on continious. So im thinking u have other issues and its not the wear of the blue. Especially on a couple month old phone. Also it says u start seeing a yellow hue when the blues are going. Might want to look into something else instead of the oled screen. Just my observation. Maybe u just got a bad screen altogether. Sorry about ur luck.
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And don't mistake this as defective, because it is not. It is simply how oled works.
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I know, all oled screen have this issues, but it's been 2 months, and even if you used it 24/7... that's just ~1500 hours. Red/green leds have 50-250k of lifetime, and for blue leds it's 15-50k ( depending on manufacturing process, versions etc. ). However we look at this - it's still less than 1/10 of it's absolutely minimum lifetime... that's not really acceptable - i'd try contacting Samsung and asking them about replacement - the worst thing that can happen is a big harsh "no" from them
I've been using my Note II for the last four months now, the screen is usually on not lesser than 8-10 hours a day and so far I've not noticed any screen deterioration of any kind or color change also should add that I use outdoors a lot.
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Hi,
I just got a refurbished OP3. Before, I had a Nexus 5X and a Nexus 5, both have LCD screens. But a long time ago I had a HTC One S, which have an AMOLED screen, and after 2 years of use the screen had huge burn-in marks and an ugly yellow tint.
Of what I know, burn-in begins by the blue LED giving the ugly yellow tint, and it's an irremediable phenomenon. But can I lower it on the OP3 by activating the "night light", reducing the usage of the blue LED ?
Thanks
This phone doesn't have burn in issues
Atok_fr said:
Hi,
I just got a refurbished OP3. Before, I had a Nexus 5X and a Nexus 5, both have LCD screens. But a long time ago I had a HTC One S, which have an AMOLED screen, and after 2 years of use the screen had huge burn-in marks and an ugly yellow tint.
Of what I know, burn-in begins by the blue LED giving the ugly yellow tint, and it's an irremediable phenomenon. But can I lower it on the OP3 by activating the "night light", reducing the usage of the blue LED ?
Thanks
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Burn in is an actual amoled problem. Yet this was a much worse on the early Samsung panels. But currently on the newer panels that we have been using since a long time this issue has severely decreased. Amoled Burn in will only occur when you putting your phone stationairy for multiple days and at max brightness. Don't worry about burn in, if you don't use your phone as a showcase device like they do in the shops then there is nothing to worry about.
I have some burn ins but my whatsapp chat screen is 24/7 on. So the text input box, call, video call, menu button and the contact's name is burned in to my display (of course statusbar icons too) but that is my fault. For one year this device been on the same screen for 6 - 7 hours straight. So don't worry about the burn ins with regular use it's nearly impossible.
My OP3 is almost two years old and has no burn-in at all.
Thanks to you all
I have the navigation bar burn-in. Any idea how to fix it?
neil.richard said:
I have the navigation bar burn-in. Any idea how to fix it?
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Burn in is perm damage so no.