Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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Take a photo and post it please.
Mine does too, mighty thanks to amoled
This is going to happen regardless of what you do.
Acceptance is key
Can someone post a picture? I would like to see what all the fuss is about.
By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar they mean the soft keys (Home - Menu - Recent - Back) buttons on the bottom.
Oh, in that case I haven't seen that problem but I have heard of people with it. You can get rid of those soft-keys with custom mods too that makes your phone full-screen.
I noticed this on my Gnex as well. Rotating the screen clockwise to a landscape orientation, the left side of my screen where the soft buttons were has a notably bluer tint. For the record, I keep my screen on auto, which I was hoping would reduce the burn-in effect. Setting the screen brightness to 100% seems to hide the burn-in. Dunno if that will always be true.
Even worse, when I did a screen compare of my previous Nexus vs the display model at the Verizon store back in early Jan, the demo model's screen was noticeably dimmer and off color even at full brightness. Seemed like running in torch mode 24/7 with a bright red background caused the screen to degrade noticeably after only a week or so.
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The only time I notice any sort of image retention (relating to the notification bar) is when I first open the XDA app and it quickly goes full screen. Other than that I never see it. However, I commonly see image retention going from home screen to Market but it fades very quickly.
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Mine as well as my friend's has burn-in at the top and bottom where the status bar is and the soft buttons. Also my old nexus S as well as my friend's has burn in at the top status bar. It's inevitable I guess...
I started seeing this too but i quickly switched to transparent top and bottom bars so that those pixels got even wear, and it actually reversed my burn in mostly. My screen is near perfect now.
this happen to me, too. it sucks. can this be exchanged in person somewhere instead of shipping it? i don't want to wait.
Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Exactly right. But the term burn in is so familiar to people it will likely never change.
I forgot to say that to eliminate this burn in i also use full screen browser at all times to hide the status bar. And i consistently rotate the screen to different views while i read my webpages to give the other pixels a rest. The effect is excellent.
To test this the best, install dead pixel detect from market and toggle thru every color. Rotate the screen too to see both areas. The color red is the only one that shows the burn in for me. Which is strange cause blue is the weak color that wears out the quickest. But my blue looks fine.
This will probably happen to all of us to some degree sooner or later.
The image retention that lasts 1-3 seconds we might see within a month or two usage is actually one of the characteristics of AMOLED "Ghosting effect"
which is not the same as AMOLED "reverse led fatigue" (or although technically incorrect but more widely understood term "Burn-ins") which maybe seen as permanent image retention shown as yellowish outlines of icons / keyboard outlines, etc.
Sadly, there's really nothing you can do about this problem after the fact, except to change the screen itself if it is really bothersome. Or you may try to change/delete/make transparent of the permanently placed icons/other objects/pictures to try to reverse these effects.
The only preventive measures would be changing screen rotation from vertical to horizontal, and make sure you don't have the screen on at a stay still image (preferably set auto screen off to 30seconds or so.)
It is humorous how particular many people are about "pocket" screens. Oled technology in reality is like the merger of lcd and plasma screens. And oled does get image retention and burn in similar to plasma. It is harder to avoid on a cell phone with so many possibilities of static images. Really though, it is good to mention/complaint about it so it gets attention and oled manufacturers try to improve upon the technology and try to minimize or get rid of the issues altogether. Many people still think plasmas get burn in very easily and that is far from the truth. The last 3 years or so Panasonic and Samsung have made great strides in minimizing the possibility and you see very few complaints about it. And it is even more humorous that many people think lcd technology is better for viewing because it is newer than plasma when the exact opposite is true. LCD technology is older than plasma, and aside from power usage and weight, lcd doesn't have many benefits over plasma. And because of the post processing to try and overcome the deficiencies of lcd viewing lcd screens are closing the gap in power consumption with plasma. But yeah, all you can do about the image retention of oled now is put pressure on samsung and lg and any newcomers to the technology to improve it. Hopefully, oled will overcome its shortcomings to lcd and plasma and be the better tech out of all three in the near future. I wish they made laptops with plasma screens. That would be an awesome option for laptop users that use theirs as desktop replacements like myself.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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All my pixels are fine but I notice the notification bar retention on brown with the XDA app and I notice the bottom (whatever it's called bar) on grey from the app you suggested. Either way, I still love the phone!!!
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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I don't. Out of curiosity I tried that app out after reading about it on this thread.
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Hi all.
Last night I accidentally discovered the burnt pixels on my one year old Focus screen The sights of high contrasts Metro-style icons (such as IE, phone and marketplace) are visible on the white background as a darker "shadows" (actual color is like a light-light yellow, close to white). These "shadows" are visible on the white background in the dark only.
It's not a big deal but I'm kinda disappointed
So, my conclusions are:
- high contrasts Metro-style tiles on the home screen are evil, at least for AMOLED screens. However live tiles (probably) can solve the issue (he-he, just thought - may be it's a real reason why MS implemented and pushing live tiles? Kidding );
- periodical changing of tile location on the home screen also can help;
- using AMOLED handsets for development is not so good. The best practice is to keep AMOLED screens off all the time (what is not acceptable for development).
My Focus is one year old, but I don't have any burn in problems some reported. Granted, I don't leave my phone screen on for extended periods, but my live tile arrangement really never changed.
Now that I have the HTC Titan, I have no regrets with the SLCD screen. The colors seem more natural to me. While AMOLED screens certainly have a "pop" factor, it's not a must-have for me.
This is a well known issue that you have to live with: AMOLED will get screen burn-in if it is use for an extend period of time.
I know most of the Android Galaxy phones also have screen burn-in especially on the status bar.
My own Samsung Focus developed screen burn-in (esp. Metro buttons) after only three months of use.
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This is a well known issue that you have to live with: AMOLED will get screen burn-in if it is use for an extend period of time.
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How about Super AMOLED screens, is problem still persists?
I notice things on my Omnia 7. Normally if i've had a menu open for a minute or more and i switch to a black background i can see a kind of greyish imprint of the last displayed icons.
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SAMOLED has it as well. I'm sure it was a big issue in the focus forums last year
The biggest disadvantage of an amoled screen is when you move to another type of screen, and notice just how gray blacks can be. Using my old focus and having the blacks blend with the bezel was so visually pleasing, and the colors had so much pop. I hear that the colors aren't as accurate, but what does that mean really? 90% of what I look at on a phone is arbitrary colors anyway; how would I ever know that the blue tiles are really supposed to be one shade vs. another, and why would I care?
(btw yes, I had the same screen burn-in problem on my focus)
Yeah i had a major burn in problem with my Omnia 7, I think it was something to do with the bright blue theme i used, i have pictures here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973337
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Wow... I had no idea of this...
I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
Is this a really wide spread problem?
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I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
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Try to look at your screen in darkness (set white background on the fullscreen first), then say "luckily"
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The problem is particularly bad on Super AMOLED screens.
Super AMOLED is still AMOLED.
My Vibrant, if I turn my screen on to the home screen and let it sit there for 10 seconds and then open another app, I can see the shadows on the home screen superimposed onto the app that's running. It's very noticeable, and gets irksome after a while. You won't see that on LCD screens.
The status bar is burnt in, which is noticeable when the phone is used in landscape mode because you can always see that faint strip where the status bar is (in portrait) on the side of the screen.
I set my screen timeout to 30 seconds to "preserve" the screen.
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Wow... I had no idea of this...
I have a Galaxy S I9000 (as well as an LG Quantum) and luckily it hasn't burnt in...
Is this a really wide spread problem?
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All of Samsung's displays have this issue. Perhaps you just haven't noticed it, or are just fortunate
Not really widespread, and not really a "problem" per se. Just a component of the screen tech. It burns in and shadows easily.
However they have better power management than LCD screens and better brightness, viewing angles, and outdoor visibility - as well as better color saturation and reproduction. For example, I increase my Vibrant's stock battery life by like 4+ hours doing absolutely nothing but putting a true black background on the launcher...
It's a trade-off. It's worth it for someone like you who doesn't notice it, though. It's worth it even for some people who do. It really depends on how long you keep your phone, Lol. If you upgrade yearly it's not that big a deal. I can't see myself going 2 years with the Vibrant as my primary device and dealing with it, though. It's too startling to look at at times, especially after you spend a significant amount of time in one app with static UI elements and move to something else...
If you look at the AMOLED technology, it's understandable really. All the colours displayed on the screen are composed of green, red and blue sub-pixels.
In an AMOLED screen, there is no backlighting. The sub-pixels themselves generate the visible light, hence why the blacks are so black, because the black pixels are not powered on. (Think of an AMOLED screen as having thousands of tiny tiny LED's)
However the problem with AMOLED is the manufacturers could not produce a specific chemical compound for each colour that would wear evenly. For example, the blue sub pixel has a shorter lifespan than the green. When the AMOLED sub-pixels gets used, the intensity of light produced decreases, hence there is uneven wear. The pentile arrangement was to actually arrange the pixels in a way, which as the display wears, the colours look normal. When there are static pixels displayed, a certain portion of sub pixels gets used more than others, hence why you can notice it.
In an LCD, each sub-pixel is a polarizing filter, which filters out either red/blue/green and displays it or blocks it, so an LCD doesn't suffer from screen burn in as much as AMOLED and PLASMA displays.
From day one I have only ever used my phone on the lowest setting and I have alternated every few days from red/green tiles. I have never used blue due to the low lifespan of blues!!
I don't think it's a huge problem if you are smart. I made the mistake of leaving my screen on as often as possible when I first got my focus. Once I started noticing the burn in, I moved my tiles around, put my screen on 2 minute timeout, and didn't notice any more of the burn in. Just the original images.
As Big K mentions, blue pixels are the quickest to degrade, that is why you never use a blue theme with an AMOLED display. Also, displaying white actually activates some blue pixels and draws more power, so the black system theme should always be used over white.
Every AMOLED owner should know these 2 things and it is a shame that Samsung and the carriers don't do a better job of informing their customers of these simple facts.
I cringe every time I see an AMOLED phone with a white background and blue theme.
This is why I still stick to Super LCD.
I saw an S2 get a burn in within 2 months of use. Lawl.
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The solution is ridiculously obvious: turn off your screen when you're done using the phone. Duh. That's obvious from a simple battery life perspective.
Of course, I see people *constantly* who just set their phones down with the screen on and walk away. Idiots.
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The solution is ridiculously obvious: turn off your screen when you're done using the phone. Duh. That's obvious from a simple battery life perspective.
Of course, I see people *constantly* who just set their phones down with the screen on and walk away. Idiots.
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The solution is not ridiculously obvious because other screen types do not suffer from thsi issue, therefor the user who moves from an LCD screen to an AMOLED has absolutely no clue that this screen type has these deficiencies. They simply assume their screen will always look the way it does as long as they take care of their phone.
That is not a bad assumption. It just doesn't jive with this display tech.
I love the deep blacks and color saturation on Samsung's AMOLED screens, but I don't think I can ever convince myself to get another one.
The issue isn't just keeping the screen on. I've always used a 30 second screen time-out on all my phones, so they aren't just sitting there a ton with an image on them. Even when you have something on the screen for like 10 seconds and move to another app you can see the image shadows on the screen. Yes, it gets pretty noticeable after a while to the point where it's constantly drawing your attention.
It's actually worse than the PenTile they use in the 1st gen SAMOLED screens, TBH.
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The solution is not ridiculously obvious because other screen types do not suffer from thsi issue, therefor the user who moves from an LCD screen to an AMOLED has absolutely no clue that this screen type has these deficiencies. They simply assume their screen will always look the way it does as long as they take care of their phone.
That is not a bad assumption. It just doesn't jive with this display tech.
I love the deep blacks and color saturation on Samsung's AMOLED screens, but I don't think I can ever convince myself to get another one.
The issue isn't just keeping the screen on. I've always used a 30 second screen time-out on all my phones, so they aren't just sitting there a ton with an image on them. Even when you have something on the screen for like 10 seconds and move to another app you can see the image shadows on the screen. Yes, it gets pretty noticeable after a while to the point where it's constantly drawing your attention.
It's actually worse than the PenTile they use in the 1st gen SAMOLED screens, TBH.
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1st gen? It's being used in the Galaxy Nexus, too
It's a really useful point to raise, and something to think about for people using their phones for development. Automatic screen time-outs can be an annoyance when you're testing features (against a real device), and wanting to stay connected (in visual studio) to the phone for debugging info and deployment. I know I have my current phone on most of the day to test tile and page updates etc. so there's bound to be large areas of the screen remaining static for long periods of time.
It's made me think twice about getting a Lumia (which I assume would be prone too) for this reason
I'm surprised manufactures don't include info on it bundled with the phones (e.g. on not having a white background) - that's pretty irresponsible.
I was just thinking how the soft buttons being static for so long could cause them to be burnt onto the screen. I had this problem with my N1, the white notification bar, and both share amoled screens. From my understanding, if you leave a amoled pixel on for long periods of time it loses its brightness, this is what happened to the white notification bar on the N1 and also why google switched to a black notification bar. Interesting that google picked a AMOLED screen with soft buttons that stay static for long periods of time. I'm truly not worried about it but havent heard anyone pointed this fact out yet.
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I was just thinking how the soft buttons being static for so long could cause them to be burnt onto the screen. I had this problem with my N1, the white notification bar, and both share amoled screens. From my understanding, if you leave a amoled pixel on for long periods of time it loses its brightness, this is what happened to the white notification bar on the N1 and also why google switched to a black notification bar. Interesting that google picked a AMOLED screen with soft buttons that stay static for long periods of time. I'm truly not worried about it but havent heard anyone pointed this fact out yet.
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Yeah but they change throughout the process dont they? Its the same a lot but not constant.
Good point. Should be able to check at all the retail store models since they usually keep them on for so long
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Yeah but they change throughout the process dont they? Its the same a lot but not constant.
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They do change but they are much more constant than most everything else
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mikel.canovas said:
They do change but they are much more constant than most everything else
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Yeah, it stays constant for 90% of my daily use.
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Yeah, it stays constant for 90% of my daily use.
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That is true..
Even when pressed, the buttons are still lit they just turn a bit brighter
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Wow excellent point, I never even thought of this and I don't think Google/Samsung did either.
The status bar area(date, time, signal) on my Vibrant was burned in within two months of using the phone. Amoleds burn in quickly.
Soft buttons burning in would be horrible but I suspect if the screen is like other Amoleds then it is certain to occur. Yikes!
Actually LEDs don't burn in, they fade out, i.e. get darker after prolonged use.
AFAIK there is some built-in logic in these displays to counteract this normal occurrence (routing more power to those LEDs in the matrix that have been on for a longer time).
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Wow excellent point, I never even thought of this and I don't think Google/Samsung did either.
The status bar area(date, time, signal) on my Vibrant was burned in within two months of using the phone. Amoleds burn in quickly.
Soft buttons burning in would be horrible but I suspect if the screen is like other Amoleds then it is certain to occur. Yikes!
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You can bet they did.
If you leave your screen on all night charging with the buttons lit, they'll probably eventually burn. Through normal use, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Actually LEDs don't burn in, they fade out, i.e. get darker after prolonged use.
AFAIK there is some built-in logic in this displays to counteract this normal occurrence.
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I have a line of LCD-LEDs at my office which display airline flights that would disagree with you.
Technically it isn't burnin, it's called "image retention" effect is the same though.
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Actually LEDs don't burn in, they fade out, i.e. get darker after prolonged use.
AFAIK there is some built-in logic in this displays to counteract this normal occurrence.
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This too, good point.
Plus, I'm sure there will be mods that will show up where you can turn off the keys after a certain period of time.
OLED does burn!
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Actually LEDs don't burn in, they fade out, i.e. get darker after prolonged use.
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No, we went through this debate over a year and half ago in the Galaxy S and Vibrant forums. Some said it is temporary ghosting, but it isn't temporary, it's actual burn in. LED's do burn in...this was the conclusion after much debate and research. They actually are prone to more burn in than normal.
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Unlike displays with a common light source, the brightness of each OLED pixel fades depending on the content displayed. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.[71]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
After my notification/status bar was burnt into my sAmoled I started running a new launcher that hides the status bar. 1 year and 6 months later my burn in is still there, hasn't faded at all, despite having a hidden bar.
Correction. What you said was correct, I meant the end effect is a burn-in effect. Either way the image is retained.
I would think that, by now, Samsung has probably worked this out on there OLED's. Only time will tell.
The term "burning in " comes from cathode ray tubes where the electron beam would actually BURN into the phosphor of the screen.
LEDs fade with use, but yes, there will be a ghost image that won't go away, unless there is some controller logic in the display counteracting that behavior.
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No, we went through this debate over a year and half ago in the Galaxy S and Vibrant forums. Some said it is temporary ghosting, but it isn't temporary, it's actual burn in. LED's do burn in...this was the conclusion after much debate and research. They actually are prone to more burn in than normal.
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Unlike displays with a common light source, the brightness of each OLED pixel fades depending on the content displayed. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.[71]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
After my notification/status bar was burnt into my sAmoled I started running a new launcher that hides the status bar. 1 year and 6 months later my burn in is still there, hasn't faded at all, despite having a hidden bar.
Correction. What you said was correct, I meant the end effect is a burn-in effect. Either way the image is retained.
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Basically, the term "burn-in" would be a misnomer in this context.
I observed the effect with my Fascinate, so I know the screens are susceptible.
My nexus one would ghost on the notification bar. Barely noticeable until you went to a full screen web page.
It would eventually work its way out. I never thought about burn in though.
Like previously stated, I'm positive there will be soft-key options soon. Themes, colors, animations, locations, and behavior. We'll be able to change it up.
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Please read everything before posting an insulting comment towards me for sharing an observation I've had.
I love this phone, and what I love most is the beautiful display. One thing concerns me though.
Reading Google Currents which removes the status bar to go full screen, I noticed what I thought was a blue haze border at the top of the screen. At closer inspection it wasn't a border...it's where the status bar should be, and it was putting off a noticeable light blue haze across the screen which persisted when going landscape. I cranked up the brightness to full, and it had little effect on it.
I kind of shake my head at people who load up a pixel checker app in a dark room and analyze every last pixel on the screen in every color. But, if it is already noticeable in normal use after a few weeks... it concerns me what the top and bottom of the phone may look like in a year.
I know the black bar should be turning the pixels off, which should result in no burn in... I can't explain why it is leaving a mark...but it is obvious that it is doing something.
Yes I'm seeing some slight burn in as well on my notification bar, specifically the click numbers on the right. I just make sure I have the web browser on full screen so it hides the status bar and gives those pixels a break.
My nexus one had burn in within the first month. So with this phone I make sure to avoid this immediately.
And yes the on screen buttons was my first concern about burn in. That white icon on black contrast is just asking for burn in. My criticism of these on screen keys is that Google didn't take advantage of them at all. They never move at all and never change, and they only disappear in one place during video. What a waste. Might as well have regular keys if that's all you're gonna do as it just wastes screen space.
Wow. I see it too.
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I thought I noticed some burn-in the other day but wasn't sure, since no one was complaining I assumed that I'm imagining things. The "all applications" button from the bottom-center of the home screen is visible like a ghost on the grey background of the settings application.
Do you guys see it as well?
Just a suggestion (and i'm not claiming this is a real solution)...
Download ADW and turn the status bar off. Swipe-down for notifications. That's what I do, at least.
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Just a suggestion (and i'm not claiming this is a real solution)...
Download ADW and turn the status bar off. Swipe-down for notifications. That's what I do, at least.
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I appreciate your input.. but as you stated I don't see it as a solution. The status bar is a rather important part of the OS. Not to mention if that tiny black bar is causing it to distort...I can't imagine wast the on screen buttons will look like when apps start using that real estate (like games)
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I appreciate your input.. but as you stated I don't see it as a solution. The status bar is a rather important part of the OS. Not to mention if that tiny black bar is causing it to distort...I can't imagine wast the on screen buttons will look like when apps start using that real estate (like games)
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I understand. Just trying to promote a temporary solution to a possibly permanent problem
I have horrible burn in on my N1 - both the status bar and keyboard keys have burned in..
It doesn't really bother me though as it is only visible in certain situations..
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OP I don't think what you are seeing is burn in. I think that is just how the screen is. I have the same slight blue hue at the top of the screen when I'm using the browser, and it has been there since day one. Every GNex that I have seen also have this. I think that is just how the screen is, I don't think it has anything to do with burn in or the status bar.
That sucks. I am not seeing any burn in on my GNex, but maybe I don't use mine as much as you guys.
Outside of the ADW solution is there anything else we can do about this...seems like a big design flaw if this is really the case.
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no issues here at all. in addition, to all the burn in complaints on the nexus one, i had that for 20 months, and never got burn in. and always had the statusbar shown.
I think the problem lies with the technology itself. The Super AMOLED displays, like the base OLED technology, use organic material that degrade over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
So, there is something of a trade off between the vibrant Super AMOLED displays with deep blacks and the lifespan of them.
There also the problem that although the Super AMOLED display consumes less power when displaying dark images it can consume more power when displaying light images like you see on many web pages.
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I think the problem lies with the technology itself. The Super AMOLED displays, like the base OLED technology, use organic material that degrade over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
So, there is something of a trade off between the vibrant Super AMOLED displays with deep blacks and the lifespan of them.
There also the problem that although the Super AMOLED display consumes less power when displaying dark images it can consume more power when displaying light images like you see on many web pages.
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If that is what we were seeing here, wouldn't the status bar actually be more white than the rest of the display, due to it getting much less use because of the black bar?
I have screen burn in that fades away after time on my G2 as well. I noticed a slight bit on the GN, but it fades away too.
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no issues here at all. in addition, to all the burn in complaints on the nexus one, i had that for 20 months, and never got burn in. and always had the statusbar shown.
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Like I said, I have some pretty significant burn in on my N1. On a pure grey screen, I can see the keyboard and the keyboard keys as well as the status bar...
However, I really don't care 99% of the time it is unnoticeable.
I just took my GN out of the box and the bottom bar is burned in. On a pure grey screen, I can actually see the home icon burned in... Does samsung run these screens before shipping?
However, it is very insignificant so I do not mind. This screen is simply amazing! I have no extreme banding or other issues mentioned here. I also got a yakju device
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OP I don't think what you are seeing is burn in. I think that is just how the screen is. I have the same slight blue hue at the top of the screen when I'm using the browser, and it has been there since day one. Every GNex that I have seen also have this. I think that is just how the screen is, I don't think it has anything to do with burn in or the status bar.
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Its burn in, I can actually see the clock numbers on a white background. This isn't a new issue, all Samsung amoled screens have dealt with this over the years. My nexus one also has the entire keyboard permanently burnt in after a year of use.
ADW launcher was a good solution back in the day as hiding the status bar gave those pixels a break and broke up the constant static image.
I'm just making sure to rotate the screen and hide the bar often.
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Like I said, I have some pretty significant burn in on my N1. On a pure grey screen, I can see the keyboard and the keyboard keys as well as the status bar...
However, I really don't care 99% of the time it is unnoticeable.
I just took my GN out of the box and the bottom bar is burned in. On a pure grey screen, I can actually see the home icon burned in... Does samsung run these screens before shipping?
However, it is very insignificant so I do not mind. This screen is simply amazing! I have no extreme banding or other issues mentioned here. I also got a yakju device
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yes most manufacturers run each phone with the screen on for a certain number of hours for testing and loading the factory image etc. But I thought it was usually special diagnostics tests and not just displaying the regular home screen. Maybe its both?
No burn in here. Also still have the Vibrant and no burn in on that either.
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yes most manufacturers run each phone with the screen on for a certain number of hours for testing and loading the factory image etc. But I thought it was usually special diagnostics tests and not just displaying the regular home screen. Maybe its both?
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Who knows. I just know that I noticed the burn in within ~3min of turning it on...
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I see it on mine too :/ All these small issues are begining to build up....
Hello, I intend to buy the Galaxy Nexus but the problem of the screen burn-in scares me. When I buy a phone, it's for two years, does the problem still exists in the new series?
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I know the ones at the store have this problem, but thats because they are full brightness all the time. I make it a point to use my phone in landscape clockwise, i.e. with pogo pins down, so the on screen buttons are on the opposite side as they usually are, and i haven't noticed any burn in. In low brightness conditions, you'll occasionally see some ghosting, but its not a big deal. They gave you extra blue pixels (rbgb), since those are the ones that are the weakest, to make sure your screen lasts 2 years.
had gnex since release date and had no problems with it what so ever, however, when bough had issues with screen itself e.g uneven colouring and banding (quite visible grey bars), replaced it and the model i got is fine so far...
I use most of the time my phone with middle brightness or minimum+screen filter during the night, as i don't use it at maximum, i will not get burn-in ?
Never had this issue with any phone.
Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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People say it is not burn in but uneven wear of the pixels. I know if read about people running a white background I think it was overnight on high and it will start to remove the marks. The idea is to run other colors to wear in the spot evenly as the top bar usually is only running black.
If you do some searching around in these threads you will read what others have done and what has worked.
Puck24 said:
Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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I have this too, but calling it burn-in is wrong I think. Those pixels are black (i.e. turned off) most of the time, so they couldn't possibly be "burned into" the screen. Rather, the issue seems to be that they are getting used too little, so they are not worn in as much as the rest of the screen. Since all screens of this type change slightly over time as they get used, there is a small but noticeable difference in how these different areas of the screen display certain colors.
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People say it is not burn in but uneven wear of the pixels. I know if read about people running a white background I think it was overnight on high and it will start to remove the marks. The idea is to run other colors to wear in the spot evenly as the top bar usually is only running black.
If you do some searching around in these threads you will read what others have done and what has worked.
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I haven't tried this, but it certainly seems like it could work.
Thx. Will try that
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The app "Display Tester" has a burn-in removal function that some people have found useful.
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How is the burn in factor any different than the great of the screens out there the gs3 epic vibrant you get the point aren't they all s amoled or amoled plus screens how would this phone differer with the burn in factor on the other devices
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GN got a nav bar present all the time, and it will get burned in, most people don't realize though they have it.
Same goes for notification bar.
They need to be semi transparent to fix the issue which we don't have.
Even the browser doesn't remove the nav bar.
Only YouTube and full screen movies will show you that issue.
Hi everyone, on my Galaxy Nexus I have MAJOR screen burn-in from the navigation bar. (black bar at bottom, back/home/apps) Whenever I turn the phone sideways (i.e. in a full-screen video or game), the navigation bar moves to the side as usual, and gets narrower...when it does this, I see a purple (why purple?) line that "fills up" where the navigation bar would be on portrait. Of course when it is portrait, this cannot be seen, as the navigation bar covers it. In ClockworkMod Recovery, at the bottom of the screen, I can see a strong burn-in of the navigation bar. It is incredibly annoying, and I heard that by displaying white on the entire screen for a long time (full brightness) this can be weakened or fixed. I have seen apps for this, but have no clue how long I should run them for. Is it REALLY possible to fix something MAJOR, or is it a "maybe..sometimes" or just a hoax?
you can try to take a snapshot of your screen and invert the colors of the image in a program (like photoshop online, idk). then you put that inverted image on your phone and view it full sreen.
I don't really know if this helps, but I read it somewhere when I had some sreen problems with my GNex (I sent it to warranty)
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you can try to take a snapshot of your screen and invert the colors of the image in a program (like photoshop online, idk). then you put that inverted image on your phone and view it full sreen.
I don't really know if this helps, but I read it somewhere when I had some sreen problems with my GNex (I sent it to warranty)
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I'm not really sure how that would do anything. The rest of the screen is fine, there's only a problem at the navigation bar. Leaving an image like that might just burn in other colors. If it really was SAMOLED, then it should not have a burn in there at all...because it turns off "black" pixels. It's confusing and annoying.
Or try a Kitkat ROM with Google Experience Launcher which doesn't have the black nav bar and status bar...
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I'm not really sure how that would do anything. The rest of the screen is fine, there's only a problem at the navigation bar. Leaving an image like that might just burn in other colors. If it really was SAMOLED, then it should not have a burn in there at all...because it turns off "black" pixels. It's confusing and annoying.
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maybe rest of the screen actually burned, so only not burned part is navbar and seems weird.
there is a tool: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in it has an option, that makes all your screen black and your nav bar white, using it for a while makes your navbar also burned, so it would eventually catch other parts and be the same level in theory..
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Or try a Kitkat ROM with Google Experience Launcher which doesn't have the black nav bar and status bar...
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I tried Cyanogenmod 11 and the navigation bar looked weird...it looked like I applied some sort of linear burn to the screen. It was ugly.
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maybe rest of the screen actually burned, so only not burned part is navbar and seems weird.
there is a tool: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in it has an option, that makes all your screen black and your nav bar white, using it for a while makes your navbar also burned, so it would eventually catch other parts and be the same level in theory..
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It's not that. The rest of the screen is beautiful. It doesn't really seem like AMOLED, though, because the black glows in the dark...also, as I said, if I go on a white image, I see a burn-in of the navigation bar, so it's not that. And, I've already got a burn-in app. I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
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I tried Cyanogenmod 11 and the navigation bar looked weird...it looked like I applied some sort of linear burn to the screen. It was ugly.
It's not that. The rest of the screen is beautiful. It doesn't really seem like AMOLED, though, because the black glows in the dark...also, as I said, if I go on a white image, I see a burn-in of the navigation bar, so it's not that. And, I've already got a burn-in app. I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
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Did you buy the GNexus brand new? Reason why I ask is because you mentioned that the blacks doesn't seem like Amoled and how it glows in the dark.
I'm wondering if you or the previous owner had the screen replaced because of a crack and the screen was replaced with a LCD from eBay.
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Did you buy the GNexus brand new? Reason why I ask is because you mentioned that the blacks doesn't seem like Amoled and how it glows in the dark.
I'm wondering if you or the previous owner had the screen replaced because of a crack and the screen was replaced with a LCD from eBay.
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No, I got it off of eBay as a 'replacement' phone. This is my first smartphone (but not Android device) but I am still in a 2 year contract with Verizon and can't get an upgrade yet. It's not really a problem, just an inconvenience.
This was one of the reasons I always try too run in extended desktop mode(no on screen buttons/status bar) and use PIE controls instead.
Also helps running the stock browser in full screen mode.
Even after less than a few months of first owning my GN I've gotten a tiny little burn in on the bottom bar, but luckily it's not easily noticeable.
I have also got a burn-in. It's not too major, but it's there. Please do update us if you find any solution which actually fixes this thing.
I'm going to do some tests with different things.
I heard leaving a white image on full brightness for a long time will help, so I'm going to try that. Another thing I might try is color alternations for long periods of time to just get different colors all over the screen. Probably won't do much, but it's worth a try. I thought I'd also see what it's like using the phone locked upside down. (rotate upside down, lock rotation) This is the app I'm using if anyone else wants to experiment with it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
Wish me luck, I'll post what happens!
Update 1: I have noticed that on higher brightness levels, the burn is less noticeable. I left a white screen on full brightness for what was probably just over 2 hours, and it hasn't really seemed to help much. I'm going to try color flashing and see what happens.
Try this app. It is specifically developed to solve the navbar burn-in issue of the Galaxy Nexus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bengigi.screen.diagnostic
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AbhishekS said:
Try this app. It is specifically developed to solve the navbar burn-in issue of the Galaxy Nexus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bengigi.screen.diagnostic
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just try that apps on my nexus, thanks the burn got worse than before :crying:
That's not possible.
Check it again after an hour or so. Maybe the screen colors haven't 'settled in' yet.
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AbhishekS said:
That's not possible.
Check it again after an hour or so. Maybe the screen colors haven't 'settled in' yet.
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before using that apps, my burn only a little transparent blueish, after using that apps overnight , my burn becoming a visible blueish :crying: also i think someone posted the same result as my gnex too.i think the only soluton is : just accept that burn in is the weakness of amoled screen., and considering to buy a the amazing n5 cuz its didnt use amoled thank God for that.
Are you sure the burn-in is persistent? Usually it goes away after a while.
Almost forgot I started this thread! I don't really know if the burn in apps helped any, but I've noticed that the lower the brightness is, the more imminent the screen burn is. Around 1% if you touch one of the navigation buttons it turns.......purple. Once you get above around 20%, it's more grey and natural....(not purple)
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amoled + low brightness = nearly unusable.
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amoled + low brightness = nearly unusable.
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Depends on your environment. In a dark room it's fine all the way down. If you're outside in the sun, even 50% seems a little dark.
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Depends on your environment. In a dark room it's fine all the way down. If you're outside in the sun, even 50% seems a little dark.
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exactly