I've either made a hugely stupid error and turned on encryption and nobody will detail me why this is a bad idea.....
Or nobody who looks at my post in huge threads seems to want to answer this question:
I enabled encryption in my Galaxy Nexus settings. I am rooted on a custom ROM. I want to update/flash a new ROM.
Will things be different? Can I update like normal? or am I going to need to wipe/reset everything in order to flash an update?
XFreeRollerX said:
I've either made a hugely stupid error and turned on encryption and nobody will detail me why this is a bad idea.....
Or nobody who looks at my post in huge threads seems to want to answer this question:
I enabled encryption in my Galaxy Nexus settings. I am rooted on a custom ROM. I want to update/flash a new ROM.
Will things be different? Can I update like normal? or am I going to need to wipe/reset everything in order to flash an update?
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Neither Clockwork Mod or even the stock recovery can access the storage on the device after it's encrypted. The fact that the stock recovery can't is exceptionally poor form on Google's behalf.
You can't even perform a factory reset. The only way to unencrypt the device is to flash it via fastboot.
I posted some details in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392037
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Neither Clockwork Mod or even the stock recovery can access the storage on the device after it's encrypted. The fact that the stock recovery can't is exceptionally poor form on Google's behalf.
You can't even perform a factory reset. The only way to unencrypt the device is to flash it via fastboot.
I posted some details in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392037
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Thank you very much! Reading up on that was really a learning experience on this mess lol
Can I flash a ROM via Fastboot using a zip? Im not sure about that... any1 know?
XFreeRollerX said:
Thank you very much! Reading up on that was really a learning experience on this mess lol
Can I flash a ROM via Fastboot using a zip? Im not sure about that... any1 know?
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Had the exact same problem and found out this solution the hard way. You can't do a factory reset to remove the encryption because the bootloader is different when you root.
The only way is to fastboot as mentioned above. You need to use the files provided for going back to stock. You should find them on here. Good luck.
I found this out the hard way as well, but I think this is the great benefit of encryption. If someone were to get a hold of your phone there would be no way for them to access anything without having or breaking the passcode. For serial rom flashers this kinda sucks but if you really care about your data and are willing to stick with either stock or stock rooted then this means you actually have a phone that's truly secure.
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You'd have to be extremely paranoid about your data to want to encrypt your phone. I couldn't care less, nothing of importance is on my phone anyway
EddyOS said:
You'd have to be extremely paranoid about your data to want to encrypt your phone. I couldn't care less, nothing of importance is on my phone anyway
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I run my business on Google Apps and my data would be sensitive. Not everyone uses there phones just for personal stuff.
I don't use it for that either! I delete SMSs after they've been read, email is downloaded to my PC once Outlook is opened and bar Facebook/Twitter and a small selection of other apps there's nothing personal on my phone
Funnily enough I use it as a phone more than anything
EddyOS said:
I don't use it for that either! I delete SMSs after they've been read, email is downloaded to my PC once Outlook is opened and bar Facebook/Twitter and a small selection of other apps there's nothing personal on my phone
Funnily enough I use it as a phone more than anything
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Wow, I couldn't operate that way, I use my phone for everything, even my laptop and tablet are a bit useless now Each to their own I suppose
Im having some trouble going back to stock image to factory reset the phone
I flashed stock bootloader, stock radio images and booted into the OS and did factory reset, doesn't seem to work...help? I can't get this encryption off
XFreeRollerX said:
Im having some trouble going back to stock image to factory reset the phone
I flashed stock bootloader, stock radio images and booted into the OS and did factory reset, doesn't seem to work...help? I can't get this encryption off
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Factory reset won't work. You need to completely wipe the phone by loading the stock img from Google that came on the phone. It is the only way it will work. You can find out how to do that on here, sorry I don't have the link on hand though so just search a bit. Feel free to PM as I had the exact same issue.
EDIT - try this toolkit to go back to the stock rom. You loose everything but it should remove encryption.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
I don't know why Google don't give the option to decrypt from the Google Apps dashboard. So annoying! Good luck, hope you get sorted.
Thanks for posting that - in the end the g-nex toolkit ended up bringing the phone back to stock and rooted the device again and I've now successfully factory reset the device and am back to running a custom ROM with root and no encryption
Thanks for the help
XFreeRollerX said:
Thanks for posting that - in the end the g-nex toolkit ended up bringing the phone back to stock and rooted the device again and I've now successfully factory reset the device and am back to running a custom ROM with root and no encryption
Thanks for the help
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Yaaaaey glad you got sorted. Encryption from GApps at the moment is woeful. I am sure they are working on it.
jd1001 said:
Yaaaaey glad you got sorted. Encryption from GApps at the moment is woeful. I am sure they are working on it.
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Hopefully they are as if you want a real secure device, its pretty pitiful to bypass if in the wrong hands.
Does this only apply if you've rooted your device and flashed a different ROM? If you have an unrooted phone and turn on encryption, will you have the same issues (i.e. unable to do a factory reset)? Is this only a problem with the Nexus or would any Android phone have this problem?
I ask because the company I work for is talking about forcing users to encrypt their phones if they want ActiveSync enabled. But they also want to be able to run a wipe on the phone if necessary. It would seem to me that encrypting the phone may prevent that as an option.
HuskerWebhead said:
Does this only apply if you've rooted your device and flashed a different ROM? If you have an unrooted phone and turn on encryption, will you have the same issues (i.e. unable to do a factory reset)? Is this only a problem with the Nexus or would any Android phone have this problem?
I ask because the company I work for is talking about forcing users to encrypt their phones if they want ActiveSync enabled. But they also want to be able to run a wipe on the phone if necessary. It would seem to me that encrypting the phone may prevent that as an option.
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Touchdown.
It's a little pricy at $20 but well worth it in IMHO.
A remote wipe will only kill off touchdown and optionally SDcard storage.
Matridom said:
Touchdown.
It's a little pricy at $20 but well worth it in IMHO.
A remote wipe will only kill off touchdown and optionally SDcard storage.
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Yeah, they are already looking at using Touchdown for devices that don't support encryption natively, but those that do (support encryption natively) they just want to enable the devices' own encryption.
So I'm still not sure if with encryption turned on, will it prevent a phone from being remotely wiped?
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Hopefully they are as if you want a real secure device, its pretty pitiful to bypass if in the wrong hands.
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When you bypass it by flashing a new system over it you wipe all data that was ever on the phone. Ok your phone could be stolen, but no-one will ever know what CP you were hiding with that encryption. I'm very happy with the fact that there is a save backdoor... imagine forgetting your password for some reason or filling out the wrong password on setup... when that happend this thread would have been a "bricked my phone by forgetting the password. Who wants some nice spareparts for his phone" Q&A
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Yeah, they are already looking at using Touchdown for devices that don't support encryption natively, but those that do (support encryption natively) they just want to enable the devices' own encryption.
So I'm still not sure if with encryption turned on, will it prevent a phone from being remotely wiped?
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Just don't tell them you are using touchdown. I've tested the remote wipe in Android, it can kill the whole phone. The only way to keep your personal info safe is to use touchdown
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Matridom said:
Just don't tell them you are using touchdown. I've tested the remote wipe in Android, it can kill the whole phone. The only way to keep your personal info safe is to use touchdown
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I think you're misunderstanding my intentions. I'm not looking for a way to bypass the encryption requirement they may be introducing. I'm just trying to understand if it will cause a problem for the remote wipe functionality if the phone is lost or stolen. If it will, I'll have to let them know so they can decide what is more important: encryption or remote wipe capabilities.
If a remote wipe functions regardless of encryption being enabled, then it's a moot point.
I know I can do a factory reset on the phone itself, but can I do a factory reset just like you could on an iPhone (you know, download the software and restore it on your phone)?
Also, are there any risks of rooting it? I'm kind of new here so just bear with me.
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I know I can do a factory reset on the phone itself, but can I do a factory reset just like you could on an iPhone (you know, download the software and restore it on your phone)?
Also, are there any risks of rooting it? I'm kind of new here so just bear with me.
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To factory reset, go into setting, storage, and factory reset. After that, your phone should be the same as the first time you installed what ever rom you're using. As for root goes, the biggest dilemma I know of is whether or not to void the warranty. So if the device is already gone past the warranty coverage time, then go ahead, get towelroot.apk and root that sucker. It's easy and fast..
I seem to have the bluetooth issue that's been described in another thread.
It just keeps going on and off and I really need it for phone calls in my car.
I've tried everything obvious and I can't get it to work anymore.
The app that was mentioned in an article doesn't work for me so I was considering a factory reset as someone has had success with that. I do know it's a temporary fix.
My question is: I'm rooted now so will I lose root if I do a factory reset?
Thanks in advance.
I've been trying to get a definitive answer to this all over these forums and I've only received 2 conflicting answers.
Just want to know whether I'll lose root after a factory reset.
One responder said my phone would bootloop and one said I'd be good to go and retain root.
Anyone please?
Just redo the process...everything shud be clean then.. Anyways the system will be
I am new to the phone scene but I am wanting to reformat it and start fresh. What are the common things I need to do before doing the reformat/reset ? I have a plain Jane Verizon HTC M9 phone. It has not been rooted or anything of that nature as of yet.. I am wanting to do a complete phone wipe or disk wipe on a pc and then reinstall everything for my phone has become very sluggish in the past few months. I have ran several good phone cleaners and none have seemed to help so I figure why not do a factory reset.
What do I need to make sure I backup before proceeding with the reset?
What are the appropriate or best procedure of doing a factory reset before and after ?
What if any Apps are there I can use to assist in pre factory reset that will help with backing up all important files?
Are there any tutorials that I can read to help in performing a factory reset?
I figure I need to learn the basics of the phone as well as get a new phone so when I root my HTC M9, I wont be without a phone in case something goes wrong..
Thanks in advance for any and all info.
I have a fair amount of experience with computers not a newbie skill level but not an advanced skill level by any means either.
Nothing for resetting phones??
So I stupidly tried to upgrade to the Pixel 4 Launcher before the official Dec update came and even after trying to uninstall/reinstall the .apk and downgrade etc, I still can't get the launcher to be remotely usable without the error popups if I have gestures on. So I am resorting to factory resetting and just starting from scratch.
I feel extremely dumb asking this as I've been rooting/customizing my phones since the G1, but about 6 months ago I had to send in a phone for RMA and when I factory reset it, wiped the OS and the bootloader was locked, so I am making sure I don't do that this time as I'm now out of warranty.
What is the process of factory resetting when I am rooted with Magisk and have the bootloader unlocked? I don't have a custom rom, just stock Android and I do not have TWRP installed. I feel like it's as simple as just going into Settings and hitting Factory Reset in Reset Options, but I can't remember if I did that or something else when I bricked the RMA phone and want to make sure.
Again, sorry for the completely stupid question, just trying to cover the bases. Thanks in advance!
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So I stupidly tried to upgrade to the Pixel 4 Launcher before the official Dec update came and even after trying to uninstall/reinstall the .apk and downgrade etc, I still can't get the launcher to be remotely usable without the error popups if I have gestures on. So I am resorting to factory resetting and just starting from scratch.
I feel extremely dumb asking this as I've been rooting/customizing my phones since the G1, but about 6 months ago I had to send in a phone for RMA and when I factory reset it, wiped the OS and the bootloader was locked, so I am making sure I don't do that this time as I'm now out of warranty.
What is the process of factory resetting when I am rooted with Magisk and have the bootloader unlocked? I don't have a custom rom, just stock Android and I do not have TWRP installed. I feel like it's as simple as just going into Settings and hitting Factory Reset in Reset Options, but I can't remember if I did that or something else when I bricked the RMA phone and want to make sure.
Again, sorry for the completely stupid question, just trying to cover the bases. Thanks in advance!
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It's like you said, go to settings and factory reset. Or, go to stock recovery and do it from there :good: