Hello everyone.
Yesterday I bought a new Nexus 5X, been using Nexus 5 for the past year.
While setting it up, and later using it I started to notice small hangs in performance, simply it kinda wasn't as snappy as I expected coming from two year older phone, it's older brother.
I did Antutu and Geekbench tests, and both gave 5X a lower score, and here is geekbench comparison (to my N5 with ElementalX kernel at 2.5GHz): http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/7158323?baseline=7158280
Simply, Nexus 5 blows it away in many aspects, including the average (total) score.
Are there any workarounds to this? Overall, I am satisfied, but not as much I hoped I would be.
What are your experiences?
Is it worth rooting and trying other kernels? I would like to keep it stock as much as I can.
Did you try updating the OS the MHC19J or newer? The encrypted user partition is significantly slower prior to MHC19J.
Did you try setting it up without migrating google account data (ie set it up as a new phone)?
Also try to keep 15% free space unused. On my past phones, EMMCs started performing very poorly when they got close to being full.
sfhub said:
Did you try updating the OS the MHC19J or newer? The encrypted user partition is significantly slower prior to MHC19J.
Did you try setting it up without migrating google account data (ie set it up as a new phone)?
Also try to keep 15% free space unused. On my past phones, EMMCs started performing very poorly when they got close to being full.
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Thanks for your reply!
It's on MTC19V build, I updated it as soon as I started it first time.
Firstly I did set it up as a new phone and it was as slow, later I reset and migrated data from N5 because I wanted to save some time from setting everything up again.
More than 50% is free now, still haven't copied any music or movies since I have no USB-C to USB-A cable.
Addicted_to_HTC said:
Thanks for your reply!
It's on MTC19V build, I updated it as soon as I started it first time.
Firstly I did set it up as a new phone and it was as slow, later I reset and migrated data from N5 because I wanted to save some time from setting everything up again.
More than 50% is free now, still haven't copied any music or movies since I have no USB-C to USB-A cable.
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Either encrypt your N5, or decrypt your N5X.
Then you'll have true conditions to compare the two, since the forced encryption on 5X makes it laggy.
thenessus said:
Either encrypt your N5, or decrypt your N5X.
Then you'll have true conditions to compare the two, since the forced encryption on 5X makes it laggy.
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I could do it, but I still think this problem is caused by something else. I doubt all the people on YouTube for example, who compared them gone that far because that is not how it should be used...
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Addicted_to_HTC said:
I could do it, but I still think this problem is caused by something else. I doubt all the people on YouTube for example, who compared them gone that far because that is not how it should be used...
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also, be assured that the encryption barely makes a difference on the 5X at all. if you notice lagginess, it's more likely due to an app hogging resources.
I don't know for sure, those are all apps I had on my N5, minus few of them.
Will see how it goes in next few days...
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Addicted_to_HTC said:
Thanks for your reply!
It's on MTC19V build, I updated it as soon as I started it first time.
Firstly I did set it up as a new phone and it was as slow, later I reset and migrated data from N5 because I wanted to save some time from setting everything up again.
More than 50% is free now, still haven't copied any music or movies since I have no USB-C to USB-A cable.
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Well the MTC19V build would have addressed any encryption vs decryption issues, so personally I wouldn't bother going through the effort to decrypt.
You aren't running out of space so it isn't an issue with EMMC wear-leveling not having enough space.
You installed as empty phone and it was still slow so it wasn't migration of data.
So I don't really have an explanation for why your phone feels slow. It doesn't feel slow to me, but perhaps this is a perception issue.
I would feel it was slow if it took a long time to load stuff or there was janking and stuttering performance. For my usage it is very smooth.
thenessus said:
Either encrypt your N5, or decrypt your N5X.
Then you'll have true conditions to compare the two, since the forced encryption on 5X makes it laggy.
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Do as the above poster suggested, decrypt. I agree that encryption on the 5x causes lag. I can compare apples to apples as much as possible, both my 5x and N5 are decrypted, both on Chroma and both using Franco kernels; both are very smooth in this set up.
So, this weird thing happen... I don't remember doing anything which could directly improve performance but this whole day the phone was simply flying, very fast!
Installed geekbench once again and did the test, and this happen: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/7174524
Almost twice the single core score, and much higher multi core! How? I have no idea.
Still not rooted, which means absolutely stock and encrypted. Just weird if you ask me... I hope it stays like this!
Addicted_to_HTC said:
So, this weird thing happen... I don't remember doing anything which could directly improve performance but this whole day the phone was simply flying, very fast!
Installed geekbench once again and did the test, and this happen: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/7174524
Almost twice the single core score, and much higher multi core! How? I have no idea.
Still not rooted, which means absolutely stock and encrypted. Just weird if you ask me... I hope it stays like this!
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Sometimes I've found during initial set up there can be maintenance operations going on in the background that aren't always obvious. Once it all settles down, the phone goes back to normal performance.
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Sometimes I've found during initial set up there can be maintenance operations going on in the background that aren't always obvious. Once it all settles down, the phone goes back to normal performance.
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I know that, and I doubt those operations last almost two days...
Anyway, looks like now it works as it should [emoji16]
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I know that, and I doubt those operations last almost two days...
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You'd be surprised. Google has all sorts of these delayed processing algorithms so everyone isn't doing the same thing at the same time.
I had 2 5x units side-by-side on Project Fi. One had a particular phone app version that was totally different release track from the other. I would log into Play and try to download the same version but the one phone was just stuck on its release track. Then 1 day later, that older release decides it is time to update Google Play Services and the Phone App, but the first phone doesn't see the Google Play Services update for 3 more days.
Then my phone starts feeling kind of slow and after some investigation, I notice it is downloading an OTA update, but I didn't see it at first because I got tired of seeing OTA notifications so I blocked notifications for Google Services Framework. I didn't consider this a general slowdown for the 5x because it really was doing something in the background, I just didn't realize it.
These might not be what your experiencing, but next time it slows down, run a process monitor, logcat or dmesg to see if that gives clues what might be going on.
After some more use I realized my problems were actually 100% caused by heat.
I guess CPU throttled down that much, it caused stutters and lower scores.
Realized that while playing a game, and after around 5 minutes of constant load, game suddenly slowed down and fps dropped at least in half.
After that I run geekbench, once again, while phone was still hot and as expected scores were painfully low.
Let the phone cool down for half an hour, without restart or swiping out recent apps, and ran benchmark again. This time, cold phone, and results were back to normal.
Repeated the test two more times, and results were exactly the same, higher the temperature, lower the performance, as expected.
The question is, could new kernel help in this case? I've used elementalX on the Nexus 5 and it had throttling settings. Also, I had no similar issues on N5, even though it was slightly overclocked.
Advices?
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Addicted_to_HTC said:
After some more use I realized my problems were actually 100% caused by heat.
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How hot is your phone getting and what speed are the CPUs throttled to?
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How hot is your phone getting and what speed are the CPUs throttled to?
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Temperatures went up to 60C degrees when I checked in CPU-Z after closing the game.
Not so sure about frequency since it dropped all the way down on first 4 cores because of low activity.
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Addicted_to_HTC said:
Temperatures went up to 60C degrees when I checked in CPU-Z after closing the game.
Not so sure about frequency since it dropped all the way down on first 4 cores because of low activity.
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Hmm, that is pretty hot. The most mine gets is around 43c. I don't remember, are you stock or overclocking?
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Hmm, that is pretty hot. The most mine gets is around 43c. I don't remember, are you stock or overclocking?
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Absolutely stock, not even rooted yet, locked bootloader.
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sfhub said:
Hmm, that is pretty hot. The most mine gets is around 43c. I don't remember, are you stock or overclocking?
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Looks like he's checking his CPU core temperatures, but at 43C I'm guessing you're talking about battery temperature.
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I haven't ever had FANTASTIC battery life like I'm seeing from some folks around here... when I first started on Starburst (I didn't keep stock for more than about four hours), I was at around 70% at the same time. I'm currently on Calkulin's 2.0.0; about to revert to Starburst and see if it's ROM-related, now that I've given Calkulin's about a week with a calibration to no effect.
I'm currently undervolted by -75 on all steps, and this seems to have made it WORSE if anything, which I didn't think was possible for undervolting to do. I've been monitoring things fairly closely with Watchdog, and nothing jumps out at me. The phone signal in the pic doesn't look good, but I've been in all the same places as I was when I was getting much better life.
What interests me is that I'm seeing absolutely no usage-based change in battery life. Until that sudden dip you see up there, it was going down at the exact same rate whether I was using it or it was sitting on my desk doing absolutely nothing.
That dip started after I played Fieldrunners HD for about ten minutes during a break at work. After I stopped playing, battery life went into a continuous plummet.
I use Tasker (extensively) to keep things in check; generally speaking, nothing is active unless it needs to be, except for Wi-Fi which is always active as it's my primary method of detecting my locations.
Am I missing something simple-stupid here? If not, anyone got any ideas, assuming going back to Starburst doesn't magically fix it?
Not sure if this will help, but improved my battery.
(1) go to your email setting for each account and change sync update, I believe by default it's set up to check every 15 minutes. With 10 email accounts, it took a toll on my my battery. I changed all my accounts to 4 hours.
(2) best way to kill a task is by holding down home button, going to task manager and kill from there. Market task killers were making things worse for me.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the thoughts! Sadly, neither of those really apply in my case. I stick with with the default Gmail app, which is all push, and I don't use task killers at all.
I'm running the stock rom with a custom kernel. I did notice that as soon as I went from stock to a different kernel I started to lose battery life. Maybe its something Samsung did? I am still a novice with Roms and what not, but nothing like this happened on my original Epic or my Hero. Maybe the yellow triangle isn't the only thing Samsung put in there.
Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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Maybe the aggressive undervolt is causing your phone to ramp up to a higher state to perform the tasks? That drop is steep with how little screen on time you have
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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For as little as I know, that certainly sounds logical. I still wasn't getting as good as I would've expected even the UV, though.
I just flashed the EK02 modem with today's wonderful developments; I'm going to wait and see if that gets me better reception and thus better life. If not... now I'm not sure whether to try the new ROM first, or scale back the UVs. I want to try one thing at a time, since it's not urgent that I have good battery life ASAP. This gets me through my day, currently, more or less; I'd like to try and find my root cause so that I'm not just trying things wildly in the future.
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Well, the good thing is that as of today, its possible to return back to bone stock and start again so you can mess with a few setups and see what works best for you. I have found that this is the first phone that uses the frequencies well. I haven't undervolted at all yet and I have had great battery life. I did the standard delete Sprint bloat, Social Hub and associated apps, Maps, etc. Also, get BetterBatteryStats. It may give you some insight into what's happening.
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How you return to bone stock? By applying the update?
Odin this
Przekret posted what appears to be a full EG30 RAR archive
Przekret - EG30 full - [post] [direct dl]
- RAR Pass: sampro.pl
- extract HOME.tar from rar file and flash in ODIN using PDA button
- does NOT include data.img so your userdata is preserved
- qbking77 installation video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381494
Then update to EK02
Got very slightly better today after flashing the EK02 kernel. 23% at the same time instead of 18%... anything could account for that 5%, though, so I don't really think EK02 had any effect on this. Zedomax kernel with stock voltages is next.
CPU boots pro
(From the market & assuming your rooted)
Settings
~Screen off profile max800 min200
~GPU to Conservative max1000 min800
~Nitrous Widget GPU to on demand max1400 min1000
What this should do is downclock your device when on standby by alot. Second for phone calls and daily stuff a clock of 1k will be silky smooth and be a small downclock. Third when you set up the nitrous widget and activate it you will overclock to 1.4k which is stoopid fast my quad score is at 1.4k I get 4500 scores at 1.6k oc but forget batt when I'm using the nitrous. I like too personally keep my phone at a clock of 800 for daily phone calls and web surfing... if I play a graphic intense game ill oc it with nitrous and not worry about burning up my phone because if I set the phone down it downclocks as soon as it stands by and will pick right back up when I'm ready.
Hope it helps here's pics.
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Batt life on my day off doing nothing but trolling forums at 800 clock.... I was on my phone like six hours straight while waiting for jury duty selection to be done.
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Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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Dchibro said:
Wolf we need to see your app and process details page. I bet your Android OS and cell standby are much higher than they should be.
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If you're talking about the page I think you are, it'll have to wait until at least morning. I just did a full charge.
To wit... I spent 43 minutes on a phone call, and lost almost the same as what I normally lose in that same time period. 6% for a 43 minute call; I'm averaging 5%/hr loss doing NOTHING.
@Dchibro, assuming that's true, what would it mean for me? Does it give me a solution?
So, doing a bit of my own detective work... I've had Watchdog installed for about three days, with aggressive monitoring. I was almost immediately getting a bunch of alerts for two processes:
I initially whitelisted them through Watchdog, dismissing them as system processes that unavoidably needed to run. However, the comment from Dchibro got me thinking and sent me back to those, and I started Googling around. Here's what I've turned up so far:
http://goo.gl/Hsvej (HUGE thread on the issue in SGS2 forums. Haven't had a chance to go through all this yet.)
http://goo.gl/kUcqx (SGS2 forums.)
http://goo.gl/mlWW4 (Nook Color forums.)
http://goo.gl/mNiId (My Google search results.)
Gonna try some of the suggestions on here and see what I turn up. For now, I'm returning to stock voltages, implementing a bunch of those changes and keeping everything else as it is now to see where I end up. Phone will be charged to 100% before bed tonight, and I'll post sometime tomorrow with my findings.
Wish me luck!
So, in stead of waking up to 50% this morning, I woke up to 86%! Which is the same I went to bed at. Six hours of sleep, not a single percent lost. If nothing else, I learned from all this that I can reboot the phone when this bug hits me and and get away from it.
As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
Im one week into my new sgs2 running full stock. What should normal battery use be? I feel my battery drains too fast. Here is my usage summary since full charge couple hours ago.
I charged too 100%, shutdown, then charged to 100%, powered up and used the phone very sparingly since. Battery is at 91%
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As I suspected. Your Watchdog shot clearly shows that you are/were (sounds like a reboot solved your issue at least temporarily) suffering from the Android OS bug. This bug presents itself most prominently in the suspend and events/0 processes. Unfortunately, a conclusive solution has not been found, but there are some things you can do to hunt the problem down.
This is the best post/thread I've found regarding the AOS bug on Galaxy SII phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
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That bug gave me nightmares on my OG Epic.
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Definitely seeing a bit of an improvement, here.
Watchdog alerted me to the suspend and event/0 stuff again about an hour ago, but I quickly rebooted and nothing seems to have come of it. I'm going to try to make a Tasker profile to do this automatically, kinda like Viper's LoS script.
All in all, I'm considering this a mostly satisfactory alternative to draining 80% of my battery with almost no use in eight hours.
I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon. I've done what I can to stem battery drain. At some point, I just gave up diagnosing the problem and started carrying 5-6 spare batteries with me. Some people claim one day's use; others report the same problems. I think it all depends on how we use our phones--eg do you take a lot of pictures--and what apps we have installed. I use the phone hard but not that hard. Sometimes the phone will burn the battery just being in the pocket.
I don't want this to be another Galaxy Nexus battery life sucks thread. What I want to know is whether the battery drain problem will be solved before we consider moving onto phones running 4.2.
Some of the drain is due to the terrible LTE radio. Phones with integrated chips have much less hardware drain.
But about the software drain? When I run GSam Battery Monitor, the number culprits seem to be Media Scanner (Server?), acore processes--contacts, user dictionary.
I've dialed down or turned off syncs as far as I reasonably can; are rogue apps causing problems or is the OS too easy to trip up?
If you search http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list for "media battery," you see a lot of bug reports about the problem.
The Google Android team doesn't seem to care about these problems.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11731#c5
"I'm only posting this here for my own amusement. My track record with Android bug reports is that Google ignores them for 2 years and then closes them without taking any corrective action. Good luck everyone."
Here's a typical bug report from mid-2011, that is still labeled new and unassigned:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18115
4.1.2 has the os drain:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38720
Going into 4.2, how do we track these issues and see if they are getting fixed? I'm not a dev... The only way we can see the 4.2 source and commits is to clone the repo using git? Is there a friendly web interact through which we can see the changes?
Do we wait until 4.2 is released and see what defects are reported on the issue tracker?
Please don't let this be a typical battery life sucks thread, where people will
1) complain that they also have bad battery life
2) complaint that they have great battery life and don't see these problems
3) suggest debugging these problems with CPU SPY, BetterBatteryStats, etc
4) suggest fixing these problems with .nomedia
I want to know how we as users can track what Google is doing or has done to fix these problems in 4.2, so we, as Android devotees, can have faith in migrating to those devices.
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I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon. I've done what I can to stem battery drain. At some point, I just gave up diagnosing the problem and started carrying 5-6 spare batteries with me. Some people claim one day's use; others report the same problems. I think it all depends on how we use our phones--eg do you take a lot of pictures--and what apps we have installed. I use the phone hard but not that hard. Sometimes the phone will burn the battery just being in the pocket.
I don't want this to be another Galaxy Nexus battery life sucks thread. What I want to know is whether the battery drain problem will be solved before we consider moving onto phones running 4.2.
Some of the drain is due to the terrible LTE radio. Phones with integrated chips have much less hardware drain.
But about the software drain? When I run GSam Battery Monitor, the number culprits seem to be Media Scanner (Server?), acore processes--contacts, user dictionary.
I've dialed down or turned off syncs as far as I reasonably can; are rogue apps causing problems or is the OS too easy to trip up?
If you search http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list for "media battery," you see a lot of bug reports about the problem.
The Google Android team doesn't seem to care about these problems.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11731#c5
"I'm only posting this here for my own amusement. My track record with Android bug reports is that Google ignores them for 2 years and then closes them without taking any corrective action. Good luck everyone."
Here's a typical bug report from mid-2011, that is still labeled new and unassigned:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18115
4.1.2 has the os drain:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38720
Going into 4.2, how do we track these issues and see if they are getting fixed? I'm not a dev... The only way we can see the 4.2 source and commits is to clone the repo using git? Is there a friendly web interact through which we can see the changes?
Do we wait until 4.2 is released and see what defects are reported on the issue tracker?
Please don't let this be a typical battery life sucks thread, where people will
1) complain that they also have bad battery life
2) complaint that they have great battery life and don't see these problems
3) suggest debugging these problems with CPU SPY, BetterBatteryStats, etc
4) suggest fixing these problems with .nomedia
I want to know how we as users can track what Google is doing or has done to fix these problems in 4.2, so we, as Android devotees, can have faith in migrating to those devices.
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Any Tom, ****, or Harry can post issues. Most of the time they don't have the technical knowledge to even know what a bug is. Don't confuse Google not caring vs. Google not willing to accept a ticket caused by something out of their control.
As for your case, you have a Verizon Nexus. They ALL suck on battery compared to other devices.
You say you don't want this to devolve into a typical battery thread but it will.
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***blah blah battery vampires***
I've had the Galaxy Nexus LTE for nearly 11 months on Verizon.
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no lte in the nexus 4, sounds like they chased off the battery sucker to me.
I'd you're using your phone as a laptop, it's time to buy a laptop. Otherwise, the turn if syncing for things you use once a day. Actively using data (especially over LTE) with a large screen burns battery on any device. If you are burning battery in your pocket, you either need to sync less or identify the rogue app that is doing the work. And Google does use the bug reports to make improvements. A recent bug in Chrome removed names from the shortcuts in the bookmarks bar and it was fixed within a week. Android rakes longer due to the wide spectrum of devices and overall update process. Bugs in an OS are a different beast than bugs in a browser.
From the sounds of things, you will have battery issues on any device.
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cry bro :crying:
simms22 said:
no lte in the nexus 4, sounds like they chased off the battery sucker to me.
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Qft
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Any Tom, ****, or Harry can post issues. Most of the time they don't have the technical knowledge to even know what a bug is. Don't confuse Google not caring vs. Google not willing to accept a ticket caused by something out of their control.
As for your case, you have a Verizon Nexus. They ALL suck on battery compared to other devices.
You say you don't want this to devolve into a typical battery thread but it will.
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Go by the evidence. The Media Server / Scanner drain problem still exists in 4.1.2
Complaining about battery life on an LTE device is like dropping a 600HP engine in your car and complaining about your gas mileage going down.
So lets say an LTE phone has an enormous battery in it, this might give you "respectable" battery life... but take that same huge battery and put it in a GSM phone and watch the battery life go from "respectable" to "incredible".
If battery life is what you need... you might consider going GSM. With heavy use I usually end up at about 30-40% at the end of the day...
Of course, as stated above, the media scanner bug is still there... but from my experience, LTE is the biggest "battery vampire" by a landslide.
I can't wait to see how many "battery life sucks on N4" threads are created.
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I can't wait to see how many "battery life sucks on N4" threads are created.
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Oh it's coming... It's coming... Best believe it! Lol.
Honestly, it's just the way it is so ppl need to get over it. If they buy the Nexus and complain about the non-removable battery, then they should have gotten a different phone instead. Like an S3.
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Oh it's coming... It's coming... Best believe it! Lol.
Honestly, it's just the way it is so ppl need to get over it. If they buy the Nexus and complain about the non-removable battery, then they should have gotten a different phone instead. Like an S3.
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i thought that i would be complaining about the non removable battery in my nexus 7, but it doesnt bother me anymore
There's no lte buddy ur mistaken
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There's no lte buddy ur mistaken
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"5 or 6 spare batteries" ROFL.
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That's 4 days of actual on time (I turn it off at night, ~15 hours a day). That's closing in on what my old Nokia and Sony feature phones clocked in at.
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That's 4 days of actual on time (I turn it off at night, ~15 hours a day). That's closing in on what my old Nokia and Sony feature phones clocked in at.
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First, turning it off at night, makes your "4 days" statement entirely false, automatically. Second, 1 hour 20 minutes screen on time is terrible, even for a known battery sucker like the gnex. Third, the only thing might slightly warrant a pardon for that screen on time, would be the fact that you did get over 2 days on it, if not for Fourth (and finally) the fact that your phone clearly shows that your didn't use it at all.
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First, turning it off at night, makes your "4 days" statement entirely false, automatically. Second, 1 hour 20 minutes screen on time is terrible, even for a known battery sucker like the gnex. Third, the only thing might slightly warrant a pardon for that screen on time, would be the fact that you did get over 2 days on it, if not for Fourth (and finally) the fact that your phone clearly shows that your didn't use it at all.
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4 days of my use, where is there false information? Still on the same charge, 1 hour 41 mins now. 61 hours with real world use is not bad, especially since despite you seemingly knowing how I use my phone, I was using it for texting, a few calls, I used google maps, updated some stuff and other random crap. A lot can be done in an hour and a half.
And finally, the entire point of this thread is the android process sucking up battery, which is why I posted a picture showing the contrary. How about you find something credible to ***** about.
Maybe if you stop using that ugly, bloated, stupid ROM your Android process usage will be reduced.
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Maybe if you stop using that ugly, bloated, stupid ROM your Android process usage will be reduced.
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Hahaa yessss!!!
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No heat here.. Maybe a little warmth during heavy use.. But not near as hot as my gs5 gets.. This thing is super fast.. Blows every other phone out of the water (using gel launcher here and running art) battery seems really good so far.. Only on my second charge cycle.. And yes it's worth every penny.
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You're going to get different opinions from everyone based on phone they're coming from. I personally came from the One X...here are my 2 pennies.
- Heat: Waaaaaaaay less heat than my One X. You could seriously cook spam off the back of my phone. While playing some of these new games, my phone would shut off due to the heat. This phone will get "warm" but I've noticed that it has calmed down quite a bit after the second day. I also have a case on there so it may retain some heat as well. As soon as some custom roms/kernels get made I'm sure this will go away.
TL;DR: I wouldn't worry about heat.
-Performance: I noticed the lag that everyone mentioned but I just kept with it and let the phone settle. There is hardly any lag. Compared to a phone that was 2 years old, this thing flies.
-Battery: I haven't really cared what the battery is doing just yet. I'm always playing games, streaming music, talking on it...you know, doing everything I bought it for; the battery hasn't bothered me yet, so that's gotta be a good sign. I'm letting this settle and then I'll really analyze this. But until kernels are built for the phone, I could care less.
Summary: Yes, this phone was worth waiting out my dreaded AT&T contract, waiting for it to become available from T-Mobile. I have played with all the newest phones (s5, M8, OPO) and this is the winner.
Buy it now.
No issues here. Great upgrade from the Nexus 5 for someone looking for a better camera and larger screen.
Got mine on the 11th and I'm very pleased to say that this is the first device in about the last 6 or 7 that I'm liking very much right out of the box! Don't get me wrong I already have my root apps and installs already planned out, but very good device. No heat (using Velis Auto Brightness App), no noticeable lag, battery has been pretty good (depending on use) and so far worth the money! Haven't seen any of the problems/issues others are/have been reporting either. Coming from SuperAmoled screen on my S4, this screen is quite dim but with some tweaks in the Velis app's brightness curve all is well.
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Heat? Not much hotter than any of my other devices I've used, it does get pretty warm while it's on the charger and I'm doing more intensive things, but as a whole heat is a non issue for me. Even playing Asphalt 8 my G2 would heat up way more and would throttle after about 2 stages.
Performance? A little disappointed actually. Out of the box the phone lags and microstutters quite a bit. Most noticeable with animations and switching between apps. Reminds me of the Galaxy S4 which I hated because of those nagging issues. I tried a few things, turning off animations in dev options, switching to ART runtime, trying other launchers, Nova and Apex.
All those things help speed things up, but all have their drawbacks. It's disappointing because you shouldn't have to sacrifice stability or lose functionality to get a smooth running device out of the box. I can see how some owners coming from older devices might view the G3 as a speed demon but I'm coming from an HTC One M8 which is the paragon of Android smoothness, on par with an iOS device if not better. Here's hoping a software update will smooth things up, I remember my G2 was much quicker after each subsequent software update.
Battery life is okay, doesn't seem to match my old G2 which I always thought was amazing. Seems to be on par with my HTC One M8. Nothing spectacular but I gotta give it credit for the removable battery.
Worth every penny? The design is gorgeous, the screen is breathtaking with the right content. 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and top of the line SOC at the moment for $599? Yes it's worth every penny. If LG optimized the software a bit more and toned down the oversharpening crap on the screen, it would be VERY hard for me to find something else to take it's place in my pocket.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
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It gets warm like any other phone.
Fantastic performance, it runs like it should. I haven't experienced any lag. The aux doesnt work with my car but it connects via BT so it's ok but still something to note.
Battery life has been great on my first charge.
For me personally, its worth it and ill recommend it to anyone. Lg are what's hot right now.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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I guess. Maybe if you're someone that buys flagship phones every six months, you'll notice it more. Like coming from a rooted Nexus 5 or M8.
I upgraded from a Galaxy S III. I had that phone for about 2 years so the jump is huge for me compare to that. Even then, I feel the G3 is just as responsive as my Nexus 7. Which i find great considering how many nice features this phone has. Its not barebone like a Nexus.
The lag is definitely there , I disable most settings and apps plus enable art . Much better but not as smooth as the nexus 5 . But is expected with the heavy skin from LG the S5 is the same way
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Dan37tz said:
I'm really surprised when I see people say they haven't experienced any lag. I mean are some people just not sensitive to microstutters as others? I'm tempted to make a video showing my lag and microstuttering.
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You should I would like to see it because as hard as I try I see no lag.
There's definitely lag I was just testing it out at the store just playing around with it opening apps and such.and literally after 2 mins of playing with it. 3 or 4 stutters blew me off
I came from the One M8, Nexus 5 and currently using it along with One Plus One. One thing I noticed after using it for couple of days is it feels very wide compared to other phones. Kind of not a good experience if you are a heavy user and use the phone a lot. Gets little hot compared to other recent phones. Display is good, text is little over sharpened and auto brightness tends to be on the darker side. Performance wise does a decent job but not as good as One plus One or the M8. Camera is definitely better than other android phone I have used recently.
Overall you will be happy if you come from a older device, if you are changing from recent flagship you won't be blown away.
I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
Out of the box, no lag or screen issues that folks have been complaining about. Coming from a Nexus 5 I'm not a big fan of skins so I threw Nova on. 13 hrs in and I'm sitting at 51% on my battery. I'm really digging this phone.
only had it a few hours
1 NO LAG ! none ! nadda
2 no over saturation of text
3 sleeps like a baby
4 when the screens on it drinks juice like a cheap 2 dollar whore !
over all im happy i picked up the g3
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I have enabled art and disabled thermal throttling and it flies. Maybe not the safest method but meh
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+thermal+throttling+g3
Google is your friend!
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How you disable thermal throttling?
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Dialer code.
3845#*851#
Scroll down to High Temp Property OFF and Toggle it to "on"
I definitely noticed micro stutter on the display models at the store and the white one I got, High Temp Property Mod helps but its still there. I've used the 1+1 the last week and its quite a bit smoother when it comes to scrolling, transitions, opening apps.
Hey,
I have a problem with my Nexus 5X. Overall the daily usage is pretty much the same as last week, but when I will start a bigger App or a Game the phone becomes slow. I closed all apps and restarted the phone. Then I started the Geekbench 3 and the score is so low! I don't know why. I attached a screenshot. Can anyone help me?
What firmware are you using?
Dont look at benchmark's score, it doesn't reflect real performance of phone, e.g my sgs3 gets 40k in antutu but nexus Just 45-50k
Lower performance in bigger apps is caused cus when CPU reaches 55*C it turns off cores to reduce heat, you can change it with custom kernel.
I have the newest security Patch. And the Geekbench is just to demonstate how slow the device is. The Performance issue Starts when I open a game or a big app. The phone is cool and it heats up minutes after playing the game.
But is it slow in daily use? Or Just in big apps?
Look on ur average RAM use, maybe some apps make ur phone slower like fb messenger (it can take even 500mb up)
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Hey,
I have a problem with my Nexus 5X. Overall the daily usage is pretty much the same as last week, but when I will start a bigger App or a Game the phone becomes slow. I closed all apps and restarted the phone. Then I started the Geekbench 3 and the score is so low! I don't know why. I attached a screenshot. Can anyone help me?
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as already said, phone benchmarks mean next to nothing these days. closing apps also rarely helps speeding up a device. removing apps from the recent-screen doesn't close/stop an app btw, they redid that quite a while ago afaik.
and as a last note: restarting the phone is a very resource intensive and long process and can easily take until long after you are already able to use the phone again (mediascanner, background/system services and apps starting...)
I don't have the Facebook Messenger. Ram usage is around 1.3 GB. And it's everytime. Not only when it's restarted. I don't have Cleaner Apps or security Apps. The Speed changed ca. 2 days ago. Last Tuesday everything was fine. Benchmarks were fine, Apps were fast and everything was smooth. But then I don't know.
So that's very weird. What did you install whole last two days?
Only the game Smash Hit. I have wiped data and Cache. It didn't helped so I Uninstalled the App. Still the same.
Hm, So I'd recommend reinstalling ur rom, what would you say about it?
I can do that, but its really annoying when I must Reset my phone until a week.
So it has just a week?
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So it has just a week?
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It's my first week with this phone. It's completely new!
Wow So I'm surprised bro. Don't you have any another issues typical for Nexus like yellow screen, slow AC charging to make a complain?
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Wow So I'm surprised bro. Don't you have any another issues typical for Nexus like yellow screen, slow AC charging to make a complain?
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Yes. The yellow Screen. But its fixed with the Developer Option "cooler colors". Buildet was this phone here in October 2015.
So, you can try to make a complain or Just reinstall rom /change kernel. No other way
I don't want to loose my warranty .
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I have wiped my complete Cache again and the score is a little bit better. Also the game. It's faster but not as fast as before.
If I'm not wrong you can take back ur warranty by flashing stock and locking back bootloader
I don't want to change anything. Are there no other possibilitys?
Solution
I had the same "problem".
Try to lock your phone and leave it to rest for few minutes. Then unlock the phone and run geekbenchmark 3.
You should get normal results now (~1230 for single & ~3500 for multi-core).
I hope this helps.
I'm facing exact same problem, bought my nexus 5x almost 1 month ago I did the geekbench but the scores were very low specially single-core, so I head up to couple of forums they suggest to reinstall the geekbench app or install the 64-bit version of it. I didn't get the 64-bit version of the app nor there is any stock setting on the phone to run apps completely on 64 bit. ( Note: Im no pure stock, never rooted, locked bootloader )
I have had my OP3 for 2 years. I have noticed the battery life is much shorter, overall burn-in on the screen (screen is getting dim even on max brightness), and the overall performance is much slower than it was even a year ago. Am I the only one experiencing this? Is OnePlus doing similar to Apple where the CPU is throttling as the battery degrades?
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Using latest beta build, but the same issues persist regardless of using stock, beta, or custom roms. I am also rooted, but notice the slow speeds even with a fresh ROM reinstall with everything stock.
No OnePlus can't do what Apple did, we would notice in a second. You should try new kernels or go with stock if you aren't using stock already. Try different ROMs if you want to confirm your hardware condition. Other than that the decreasing speed is normal, the device is getting older and it is getting tired.
I've tried multiple different roms and kernels. The issue is close to the same across all ROMs. Just now opened a twitter notification and it took several seconds to open rather than instantly like you'd expect.
Was just wondering if it is worth a try with one of the $25 batteries on Amazon. Will likely just start looking to upgrade.
Highly doubt you have burn-in. Almost doesn't happen these days anymore unless you abuse your phone. Regarding that your phone is slow. Did you try a full reset yet? Have you done any tweaks or something? My phone is hitting the 2 year mark with only a new battery and camera (common focus problem). And it is still like it was at day 1.
It definitely has image burn in. If I put a full screen white image on the phone, it is all off-white except the middle part of the notification bar, I can even see burn in for the static icons like wifi, battery, LTE, etc...
I have done a full reset just a month ago, but didn't help. Even when completely stock including recovery then tried with a few different kernels. still very slow compared to new.
You did say you have a new battery, considering my battery life is crap right now, I may just give that a try. OEM parts are pretty cheap on witrigs.
I would definitely recommend using bluspark kernel on oxygen os. If you enable the fastlane feature and set both of the cores to 35 it will be blazing fast and no lag what so ever. Try that and let us know how your phone reacts.
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Highly doubt you have burn-in. Almost doesn't happen these days anymore unless you abuse your phone. Regarding that your phone is slow. Did you try a full reset yet? Have you done any tweaks or something? My phone is hitting the 2 year mark with only a new battery and camera (common focus problem). And it is still like it was at day 1.
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I would definitely recommend using bluspark kernel on oxygen os. If you enable the fastlane feature and set both of the cores to 35 it will be blazing fast and no lag what so ever. Try that and let us know how your phone reacts.
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I reset and reflashed OOS and installed bluspark. Also limited the apps I installed too. It seems to be a bit faster. Will report back if I get any slowing.
Still no issues. I was thinking and realized my issue. I had two separate profiles on my phone, a home profile and work profile. I assumed that the inactive profile automatically shutdown whenever switching like on a PC when you sign out of one account and into another. I am guessing this isn't the case with android. The inactive profile continued to run in the background causing my slowdown and battery drain issues.
Moving forward, multirom is probably the way to go for me if I decide to go back to having separate work and home work spaces.
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It definitely has image burn in. If I put a full screen white image on the phone, it is all off-white except the middle part of the notification bar, I can even see burn in for the static icons like wifi, battery, LTE, etc... .
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I have the same . In addition, I have a burn in screen at the bottom (strip about 1 cm ) . I've noticed keyboard image burn in as well . Never amoled again .
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Still no issues. I was thinking and realized my issue. I had two separate profiles on my phone, a home profile and work profile. I assumed that the inactive profile automatically shutdown whenever switching like on a PC when you sign out of one account and into another. I am guessing this isn't the case with android. The inactive profile continued to run in the background causing my slowdown and battery drain issues.
Moving forward, multirom is probably the way to go for me if I decide to go back to having separate work and home work spaces.
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Did you get fastlane enabled on both cpu clustors and set to 35?
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Did you get fastlane enabled on both cpu clustors and set to 35?
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I didn't see a fastlane using Kernel Auditor. It has been so long since I have adjusted kernel level settings, I don't really remember a lot of it.
Edit: I just did some more searching and found the settings. I enabled and set to 35 on big and little governers. Thanks for the advice.
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I didn't see a fastlane using Kernel Auditor. It has been so long since I have adjusted kernel level settings, I don't really remember a lot of it.
Edit: I just did some more searching and found the settings. I enabled and set to 35 on big and little governers. Thanks for the advice.
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No problem let me know how your phones running with that enabled ?
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I reset and reflashed OOS and installed bluspark. Also limited the apps I installed too. It seems to be a bit faster. Will report back if I get any slowing.
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Do you life in a area with alot of sun? Still don't have burn in, sad to see that you do tho.
Also keep in mind that once android gets above 50% storage performance starts to degrade.
I have same issues. My op3 overheating and lagging alot while playing pubg. Any solution?
Noob02 said:
I have same issues. My op3 overheating and lagging alot while playing pubg. Any solution?
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There really is nothing you will be able to do about that. Those kind of games are really just pushing mobile hardware in directions that it just wasnt designed to go. Until we get a real cooling system (20 years or so before they shrink the liquid cooling small enough maybe) Gaming like that will always cause the device to heat up alot and lag. Its the nature of the beast.
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There really is nothing you will be able to do about that. Those kind of games are really just pushing mobile hardware in directions that it just wasnt designed to go. Until we get a real cooling system (20 years or so before they shrink the liquid cooling small enough maybe) Gaming like that will always cause the device to heat up alot and lag. Its the nature of the beast.
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So buying new phone is the best solution? I can't effort new phone now. So is there any kernel configuration or tweaks?
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So buying new phone is the best solution? I can't effort new phone now. So is there any kernel configuration or tweaks?
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No, Not even a new phone will really help. Besides the hardware in the 3 and 3t will still be able to handle anything Google tosses at it for a few more years yet. You hear it all over the place on every device. No device has a proper cooling setup for gaming of that nature. Even the S9 with Fortnite is getting hot after playing for a while.
This is a side effect of trying to game on something that was not made to game like that. Ill be honest. If you want to game like that save it for the PC until the hardware can support it. Other wise you will just have to deal with the heat and the lag.
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No, Not even a new phone will really help. Besides the hardware in the 3 and 3t will still be able to handle anything Google tosses at it for a few more years yet. You hear it all over the place on every device. No device has a proper cooling setup for gaming of that nature. Even the S9 with Fortnite is getting hot after playing for a while.
This is a side effect of trying to game on something that was not made to game like that. Ill be honest. If you want to game like that save it for the PC until the hardware can support it. Other wise you will just have to deal with the heat and the lag.
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I see. Thanks bro