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Which of these two possibilities is better for installing updates on a rooted phone?

Hello. I'm coming from a old windows mobile phone and just got my first Android device "Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-i9195" and obviously i'm loving it.
Still being a newbie to Android i already did a bit of advanced stuff (at least for a novice android user) like installing CWM Recovery and rooting the phone in order to be able to install apps on and external SD card.
But a new question arose: What about new Android updates, can i still install them without loosing root or even worse, damaging the phone?
After searching a bit on google i came up with two possible and contraditory possibilities which are:
-Yes, and afterwards i would only need to restart the phone in CWM mode and reapply the zip root file i used previously;
-No, it will likely mess the phone and i should wait 1 or 2 weeks for a updated rooted rom and "install" that instead.
So, i'm a bit confused here, what would be more advisable?

I suggest to make a nandroid backup, then try a custom rom from the dev forum.
There are 4.4.4 kikat roms for our beloved S4 mini, and i dont think samsung will go further.
Envoyé de mon GT-I9190

rick6 said:
-Yes, and afterwards i would only need to restart the phone in CWM mode and reapply the zip root file i used previously;
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...... if, as has been said, you ever get an update. An update certainly will not damage the phone.
You certainly won't have to wait for anything. I agree with zlaz, flash a new ROM such as Carbon - you get regular updates and great support here on XDA (whichever ROM you try).

Custom ROMs like CarbonRom (see the development section) is the way to go for this phone I would say. But if you wanna stay on stock and if we would get an update, Samsung probably wont let you install it via the usual OTA or Kies method, because your device is flagged as "Modified" after flashing a custom recovery (you can see this in the about this device section in the settings). You would still be able to flash the update manually with Odin, but you will then probably have to reroot it.

LanderN said:
Custom ROMs like CarbonRom (see the development section) is the way to go for this phone I would say. But if you wanna stay on stock and if we would get an update, Samsung probably wont let you install it via the usual OTA or Kies method, because your device is flagged as "Modified" after flashing a custom recovery (you can see this in the about this device section in the settings). You would still be able to flash the update manually with Odin, but you will then probably have to reroot it.
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That's 100% true, I don't remember now exactly when your phone say, that it is modified and you can't update - moment you search for update in it or moment you try to download update that it has find.
Samsung oryginal software is not that greate anyways

Thank you all for the replies.
I think i got what i wanted with your awnsers, i just need to dig a bit more about the avaiable roms what what i can get from them. At the moment i'll keep my s4 mini as it is for a while longer i guess.
As for warranty i get something while booting up saying "Set warranty Bit: Kernel", but that seems to be what you normaly get when root a stock rom.

Installing the unlocked HTC phones ROM on a branded device AT&T ?

Hello smart people,
Please I need to know if i can install an international /( unlocked) phones roms on my HTC one m8 demo unit ,i downloaded an official rom from HTC roms website and hoped it can help me out get out of the installed rom that i have on my device which is only a basic rom used for the demo units. first is there any risk to damage the device since its an AT&T device add to that its only a demo unit, without the need to root and flash the CID /MID plus the recovery app and all the steps that must be applied to get a custom rom on those types of demo units devices?
thanks a lot for any one that can help me out on this problem .

Download one of the Nandroid backups and restore it via TWRP, shouldnt matter so long as its for your version, mines an International Europe version and i restored a Verizon rom on it, it worked fine with Gsm, just had issues with sound and the HK sound in particular.
Or you could always try the custom roms.

How to best go about backing up stock/installing a custom ROM

Hi,
After doing some reading on here I am a little unsure on the best way to back up my HTC One M9 (GSM) stock recovery/system. My software number is 3.50.710.1 (Android 6.0) and it came from Optus (Australia). I cannot seem to find an RUU file for this firmware anywhere online; only earlier versions are available. My understanding of this is that I need an RUU file for my specific firmware as a fail-safe in case I mess something up and need to return to stock?
My questions are:
1) Can I get my phone back to the current complete stock firmware and be able to receive future OTA updates without turning s-off and without copying anything from my phone before I flash TWRP and a custom ROM?
2) If not is there anyway that I can back up my phone it its current stock state that will allow me to go back to this state if I want to go back to my stock Optus firmware or to install OTA updates? (Including the stock radio/recovery)
3) Reading this post as well as others leads me to believe that I may stop my mobile radio working by flashing a custom ROM (especially as the linked post has the exact same firmware as me). How can I avoid this, or fix it if it happens to everyone?
I am ideally looking for a custom ROM which improves over the stock firmware. My priority is maximum battery life, with customisation and HTC 10 system UI/apps a secondary focus. Any recommendations would be great, as well as tweaks and kernels which help give the maximum battery life.
Cheers!

You can't backup your firmware (and that includes your radio). However if you read my google sheet you'll find instructions for backing up your current boot.img, your system and the stock recovery. If you do it correctly those files will suffice for recovering the ability of installing OTAs. No personal data will be backed up so maybe you want to share your backup with us afterwards.
There is a custom kernel for CM/AOSP roms which is said to repair the signal problems. As far as I read some sense rom users reported that flashing the stock boot.img recovered their signal. However this doesn't seem to work for every user. So you'll need to try by yourself.

Flippy498 said:
You can't backup your firmware (and that includes your radio). However if you read my google sheet you'll find instructions for backing up your current boot.img, your system and the stock recovery. If you do it correctly those files will suffice for recovering the ability of installing OTAs. No personal data will be backed up so maybe you want to share your backup with us afterwards.
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Thank you so much! I have managed to find the guide you mentioned to backup the stock boot image, system image and recovery. By the looks of it the tab to the right is the guide to return my phone to its original state, which is good. I'm more than happy to share the backup once I do it.
Flippy498 said:
There is a custom kernel for CM/AOSP roms which is said to repair the signal problems. As far as I read some sense rom users reported that flashing the stock boot.img recovered their signal. However this doesn't seem to work for every user. So you'll need to try by yourself.
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Okay, well I am planning on keeping s-on at this stage, so I'm left with Sense based ROMs I believe? I have read that LeeDroid is the best for battery life, does this sound right? If so I am unsure if I can flash it as it says "Please make sure you have the latest HTC Hima 3.35.XXX.XX Marshmallow firmware installed prior to installing this ROM" because my software number is 3.50.710.1?
Thanks again!

Da Doom Lord said:
Okay, well I am planning on keeping s-on at this stage, so I'm left with Sense based ROMs I believe? I have read that LeeDroid is the best for battery life, does this sound right? If so I am unsure if I can flash it as it says "Please make sure you have the latest HTC Hima 3.35.XXX.XX Marshmallow firmware installed prior to installing this ROM" because my software number is 3.50.710.1?
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I've read that several times in the near past and I actually don't understand it. You never needed S-OFF for flashing none-sense based roms as long as I started using Android/HTC phones and that was back in 2012. Why do so many people think they need S-OFF for AOSP?
I personally prefer the Viper rom. But taste differs and in the end the best advice I can give is try it out by yourself. Everyone has different needs and is using his/her phone in a different way. The best rom for person a might be an awful choice for person b since he/she has completely different needs.
I can't tell you whether you can use Leedroid. Test it and report back. That's how xda works. You might be able to use it after you flashed your stock boot.img but I don't know whether you really are or not. The warning is written so that people don't start flashing that rom with a lower firmware version. On older HTC phones flashing an "older" rom has never been an issue on newer firmware versions whereas flashing a newer rom on an older firmware never goes well (even on the M9). However many things have changed since the M9. There is no hboot anymore, the Download Mode got introduced, google changed the way OTAs are checking whether your system is modified, and so on. (Just to mention a few changes.) Those issues with the lost signal didn't even exist on pre-3.x firmware versions of the M9. Therefore users like you who use a not so common firmware (in comparison to the user numbers of the most common firmware bases: international, taiwanese and the developer firmware) have no other choice but trying out by themselves or getting S-OFF and changing to a more common firmware.

Flippy498 said:
I can't tell you whether you can use Leedroid. Test it and report back. That's how xda works. You might be able to use it after you flashed your stock boot.img but I don't know whether you really are or not. The warning is written so that people don't start flashing that rom with a lower firmware version. On older HTC phones flashing an "older" rom has never been an issue on newer firmware versions whereas flashing a newer rom on an older firmware never goes well (even on the M9).
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I have followed your guide and now have the latest stable LeeDroid ROM installed and TWRP. Just as I predicted the radio was not originally working. When I restored my stock boot.img from the original backup I performed it began to work. Thanks so much for your help! I'll upload the backup to cloud storage when I get access to a decent internet connection and then I'll share it to help others out.

Issues with HTC 10 from AU / KDDI in Japan

Good morning,
I've recently moved to Japan and purchased an HTC 10 from AU / KDDI. The version information is as follows: CID KDDI_801, MID 2PS670000 / htc_pmeuhljapan. This is my first time dealing with a non-US phone. I've unlocked, s-offed, etc and installed CyanogenMod on my US HTC phones. I've managed to S-OFF / Unlock the AU phone. However, I was unable to root without TWRP or backup the stock recovery. So I flashed TWRP onto it, rooted and that whole deal without issue. I've also backed up my System Image / Boot.
This broke my OTA updates (surprise surprise) but I found an update here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/htc-10-au-japan-ota-zip-file-t3490829/page2 and attempted to flash. I cannot flash the entire zip file, however, my phone will take the firmware file within. This seems to update the firmware from 1.28 to 1.95. However, this breaks the phone's WiFi (WiFi won't see any networks), but seems to re-install stock recovery.
Still, the OTA updates failed. So I reflashed TWRP recovery and restored my backup. WiFi works just fine again. After I restore the backup it says OS-1.95.970.4 in download mode, however, in the OS itself it shows the old build number 1.28.xxxx. Does anyone have an applicable copy of the stock recovery I can throw on there and attempt to get an OTA update? If not, would international ROM's work with this phone or do I need to find Japan specific? I know they have some of their own bands so I'm not sure of compatibility issues. If you need any additional information please let me know. Sorry if any of the questions / circumstances seem ridiculous, again, I've never had to deal with a non-US phone so there's a bit less information available.

i also use htc 10 of Au japan, can you upload an stock or backup of stock of it. my phone cant boot now

is this phone water proof?

minori_aoi said:
is this phone water proof?
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No

Hi..which twrp did you flash?

Sir how you unlocked this phone. ?
I dont know i try sunshine and the htcdev there is no way to unlocked bootloader it's furstasing.... :crying:
And another way is buy xtc2clip the price is like so so expensive :crying:

Looking for some help getting off Vzw ROM to custom

Hello all,
Long story short I currently have an Unlocked 10, rooted, s off, and bootloader unlocked. I have flashed over the Verizon rom and radios last year and left it this way for a while. I'm getting to the point where I'm about ready for a factory reset but figured I might as well update if I'm going to do that. Better yet I'd like to get on LeeDroid but preferably on Android N.
So I need to update to an Android N ROM first, then over to LeeDroid. I can do it, but frankly I do this stuff so little that every time I get a little nervous. My 10 is my daily driver but I currently have a raggedy s6 here I can pop a sim in for a minute if needed.
So I'm wondering would it make sense to just do a backup, flash the latest Unlocked N version then flash LeeDroid? Wouldn't my Verizon radios stay where they're at, or will flashing those roms over write them? And, none of this flashing should overwrite my recovery, should it?
Also, I apologize if this is not appropriate but my other option at this point is to ask, are there any fairly well regarded XDA friends here with some spare time that would be open to taking 20 bucks or so to get me fixed up remotely over teamviewer or something?
Thanks for all your help. I don't post here often but when I do I always find the direction I need as someone who is not a frequent modder anymore lol.

Launchpadmcqu4ck said:
Hello all,
Long story short I currently have an Unlocked 10, rooted, s off, and bootloader unlocked. I have flashed over the Verizon rom and radios last year and left it this way for a while. I'm getting to the point where I'm about ready for a factory reset but figured I might as well update if I'm going to do that. Better yet I'd like to get on LeeDroid but preferably on Android N.
So I need to update to an Android N ROM first, then over to LeeDroid. I can do it, but frankly I do this stuff so little that every time I get a little nervous. My 10 is my daily driver but I currently have a raggedy s6 here I can pop a sim in for a minute if needed.
So I'm wondering would it make sense to just do a backup, flash the latest Unlocked N version then flash LeeDroid? Wouldn't my Verizon radios stay where they're at, or will flashing those roms over write them? And, none of this flashing should overwrite my recovery, should it?
Also, I apologize if this is not appropriate but my other option at this point is to ask, are there any fairly well regarded XDA friends here with some spare time that would be open to taking 20 bucks or so to get me fixed up remotely over teamviewer or something?
Thanks for all your help. I don't post here often but when I do I always find the direction I need as someone who is not a frequent modder anymore lol.
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To minimize potential problems I would start fresh going from M to N.
Flash the full N RUU.exe. Flash the latest TWRP, then flash LeeDroid. New firmware, TWRP, and custom rom.

comstockload said:
To minimize potential problems I would start fresh going from M to N.
Flash the full N RUU.exe. Flash the latest TWRP, then flash LeeDroid. New firmware, TWRP, and custom rom.
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Would you suggest Verizon N rom since I'm already on Verizon M or would Unlocked N be better?

Launchpadmcqu4ck said:
Would you suggest Verizon N rom since I'm already on Verizon M or would Unlocked N be better?
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Get a copy of your current M rom for the firmware you currently have and download that. Remember, we're talking full roms not updates. Now get the latest N rom for your device (full ruu.exe). Now you have options. I would flash the N rom, then the latest TWRP, then LeeDroid. Any problems, and you can go right back to M. I always use TWRP 3.0.2-6 with M. So if I go back to M I flash that version of TWRP (from within TWRP itself) first. Take your time. You can do this. You can get the latest N rom from HTC's website. To get your M rom you'll have to search for it using your firmware numbers. Someone should have a copy.
BTW, you can watch ROOT JUNKY's videos on youtube as a refresher on the basics of flashing TWRP and so on. Don't use his files though. They're old.

comstockload said:
Get a copy of your current M rom for the firmware you currently have and download that. Remember, we're talking full roms not updates. Now get the latest N rom for your device (full ruu.exe). Now you have options. I would flash the N rom, then the latest TWRP, then LeeDroid. Any problems, and you can go right back to M. I always use TWRP 3.0.2-6 with M. So if I go back to M I flash that version of TWRP (from within TWRP itself) first. Take your time. You can do this. You can get the latest N rom from HTC's website. To get your M rom you'll have to search for it using your firmware numbers. Someone should have a copy.
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Yeah I think you're right. I made it this far lol. But the N rom from HTC would just be the unlocked N wouldn't it, not Verizon? I know the Verizon ruu is over in the Verizon HTC 10 forum here so I could get that. Also I think I need to go brush up on firmware vs rom I tend to think they're the same thing but they're not, right?

Launchpadmcqu4ck said:
Yeah I think you're right. I made it this far lol. But the N rom from HTC would just be the unlocked N wouldn't it, not Verizon? I know the Verizon ruu is over in the Verizon HTC 10 forum here so I could get that. Also I think I need to go brush up on firmware vs rom I tend to think they're the same thing but they're not, right?
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I see. By "unlocked" you mean the US unlocked GSM HTC 10. I wouldn't mess with trying to alter your radios right now. Yes, stick with Verizon on everything. LeeDroid should run fine with that. Installing a new HTC rom changes your firmware. It will be updated as you go to N. If you decide to back to M, it will be downgraded. Installing a custom rom won't change your firmware. A full rom is composed of several components. The firmware is one component.

comstockload said:
I see. By "unlocked" you mean the US unlocked GSM HTC 10. I wouldn't mess with trying to alter your radios right now. Yes, stick with Verizon on everything. LeeDroid should run fine with that. Installing a new HTC rom changes your firmware. It will be updated as you go to N. If you decide to back to M, it will be downgraded. Installing a custom rom won't change your firmware. A full rom is composed of several components. The firmware is one component.
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Ohhh okay I follow. Yeah sorry I did mean the GSM Unlocked model, I bought direct from HTC. But I couldn't get it to work on unlocked firmware with Verizon so I ended up flashing the Verizon ROM and radio last year.
So I'll grab the Verizon RUU and flash that, then LeeDroid. And update my TWRP. Its long over due anyways lol
Can't thank you enough for your help. I'm going to give it a shot this weekend I think. I really want to run LeeDroid!